Monty Python's Mafia Circus Game Over

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Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.

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What is this vote I see before my eyes. It does not exsist I tell you.

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I do this because I don't know how many people got my first post joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKeQpeDkoGc

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Ah that song, the epitome of romance...

The first time I heard it I fell out of my seat laughing.

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I do this because I don't know how many people got my first post joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKeQpeDkoGc

farside, you made me pee my pants. Thanks a lot!

Are you pregnant? Can't tell you how many times I almost pee'd myself during my pregnancy.
Back to the fight.
I still have an arm I can fight.

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I have no arms or legs, but I will head-butt you. And I will win!

(I am not pregnant... maybe someday!)

Didn't he say he would bite the person? Damn I need to bring my headphones to work.

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I have no arms or legs, but I will head-butt you. And I will win!

Well there's no need to be suspicious of Bruce this game, then... 'cos she's 'armless...

That is one of the worst puns I've ever heard.

You know it will just get worse from here being the game that it is.

Muauahahaha my plan is working

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vote: The Internet

Monty python knows nothing of this internet you speak of.

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I wish I had time to help Guri on that one. I don't have time or know anything abour Greek numbers.

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This game is just too silly

Vote: The Game

unvote:
vote: Jordan

How dare you not be silly. You sir are a traitor to what Monty Python is all about.

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Unvote: The Game
Vote: farside22

Obviously the most silly...

I'm going to take something that Lowell said to someone.

"I will OMGUS your brains out"

On another note. You OMGUS with little provocation. Tsk, tsk.

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I get two votes! Man I feel special.

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Now is definitely not the time for roleclaims I'd say.

Although, with monty python... I have no way to ever tell if we're out of the joking stages.

Forward men, to the cave of AUuuuuhhgghhhhh

Well has everyone come in and voted or do we have a few hiding in the bushes?

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Ummm... the only time I have heard of Monty Python was Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and the only thing I know about that is that it has to do with the Holy Grail.

Doth is a witch I say. The Holy Grail you say. What does thy Holy Grail do?

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Oh and by the way, a useful index of scripts for all the sketches can be found here in case anyone needs it, with the scenes listed alphabetically and also by series and episode.

Great site. I saw that the spanish Guitarist & Dancer were the ones to say that.

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@LG okay I didn't really need to hear the whole reason you were saying Albatrosses I figured it was a post restriction. Why do you question Iron Man's bread crumb. There could be a good reason for him to want people to guess. No one has guessed right so far so he hasn't be blantant.
From what I see most people (including myself) are being silly. It is Python after all. Why didn't you mention Rogue's role dropping in all your comments?

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Albatross!

RS has one post. IM seems odd to want guesses.

Albatross!

More then one post has been made about his cigarette. Seems he is looking for someone.

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I too think Poker is looking for someone specific with his question but even though I have nothing to offer in such a manner I will do it if it helps in any way.

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LG: Why did your break your post restriction? I didnt' see a need for that.

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No big deal LG was just curious. On to the IM claim. It's bad to claim in any game folks. Don't think because silly is part of Monty Python this is still mafia. Do I think claiming as he did is scummy? No. Do I think it was a bad idea. Albsolutely. I'm more curious about Jordan's inactivity right now.
I agree with Mith about Stapp. You should vote for someone because of a PR. You vote for people who are scummy.

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Ok, but do you think it's scummy?

I, possibly mistaken (who knows), thought that we were looking for the silliest players because of the flavortext - only being able to call people Bruce and only being able to vote for "Bruce" who isn't in the game, is pretty darn silly as well as useless to the town.

So sure, you can call that bad play if you want, but I dont think it's scummy. And neither does Lord Gurgi .....so there

Considering I was an IC in a game you played I will scratch up your comment to misinformed for now. Someone with a PR shouldn't look scummy because of a PR.
Also we don't know if his vote is useless the vote count has been a bit odd in some places.

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Sorry Mirth. Funny thing is I had it right the first time without looking then second guessed myself.

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Hmm I saw Jordan online yet he didn't post in this game. I call lurker sh

en

anigans!

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Az, I'm not really liking your post of "I don't think I should really be voting for him but my vote still stands.

Also,

unvote: Strappado
vote:chenhsi

You, sir, are not even trying to participate. I have no tolerance for the "I'm confused" excuse, especially when used frequently with nothing else surrounding it.

What about Jordan's lurker disappearing and no talk actions? I'm not big on lynching lurkers, but when I see someone is around and not talking that sends my scumdar off.

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I think my problem is I know Jordan thru other games and I don't take him as a lurker type.
In Newbie 621 I figured it was because you knew TSQ that you might feel differently about it with others.

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I'm with you both on wanting to know Bruce's full claim. I have a few thoughts about what it might be but much better to hear it from the announcer's mouth first.

Re. Bruce's lurking, I think we shouldn't ignore Bruce's 12-word point that Bruce also hasn't said much to date, making her comment post 252 more than a little (or perhaps I should say 'un per'?) cheeky.

As for Bruce's confusion, he's struggled to find things to say in other games I'm in with him too. It's definitely more blatant in this game though, and I think his not being familiar with Monty Python is also not likely to help us later down the line.

I actually understood all this.
Why is DBE (bruce) scummy in all this?

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I take this to be the Bruce in question:

Original Roll String: 2d6 (STATIC)

2 6-Sided Dice: (1, 5) = 6

HIGHER THAN 10 I WILL VOTE FOR IMAGINALITY!!!

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I agree. The posting of sketches in every post I could see, but a sudden backwards talking restriction. There should be no reason for it to happen out of nowhere

unvote:
vote: luigi gangsta

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weren't you just griping at me for wanting to lynch someone for being confusing rather than being scummy?
Seriously, I'm asking, cuz I dont remember and I'm again too lazy to look back. I know it was one of you wemmins.

I dont think there is anything particularly scummy about making a backwards post. If it was a faked restriction, sure - but we're in a goofy Monty Python themed game. So he typed backwards, doesn't seem like a huge deal and atleast it was some content.

There is a difference. You were voting because the person was confusing you. She is voting because Lugi is purposely causing confusion.

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Muerrto replaces Bogre effective immediately

bogre was in this game? Geez I wonder who else is lurkering.
Well I still like my vote on Lugi right now. I agree that if you are confused why cause more confusion. Just doesn't make sense.

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Ohh it feels SOOO GOOD when they fall into it. SOOO GOOD

PLEASE ALL HEREIN READ THIS REVELATION:

Darla is full of it.

I, you silly eldeberry sniffers, am the http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S1yjT8XsDI8 ONE TRUE French Taunter.

It sucks coming out like this for it, but I'm not going to beat around the bush with it. I have a night action as well. I didn't want to get into it day 1, of course, but when someone else claims my role I sure as hell am going to jump on it.

So, this makes me believe that the scum weren't given fake claims as well. That's delicious.

This day 1 will go down in memory.

HUZZAH.

Confirm: DarlaBlueEyes - Thou are NOTS the taunter.

It's a Perry Mason moment!

unvote:
vote: DarlaBlueEyes

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I'm still thinkin Chen for tomorrow, but since I've had to say my role, should I say more and let the town direct me or keep it up for suspicion?

Do what you think is best, but I say hint at what you are going to do if you are good at hinting in case the scum NK you.

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Mirth is a caution person I notice. She wants answers and conversation is not bad.
Mirth: Do you think Spryx is lying or DBE is lying then?

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I don't know if all mod's use safe claims. I haven't ever been given a safe claim. As Poker stated. I can see the same type power like two RB's, but not the same role.
Out of curiousity. LG: Did anything happen to you when you broke your PR?

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I don't watch enough Python so I will ask was the French Taunter in any other movie then the Holy Grail?

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Okay I just looked up Monty Python and anything about French Taunter and all I got was he was in the Holy Grail and there was the spoof Spamalot (which I really want to see) which made fun of the Holy Grail.
I can't imagine there are two of the same character with so many characters out there to choose from.

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I don't have sound at work. The only difference I noted was one was longer then the other and spryx started differently.

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How about we try this instead.
LG: Did the mod say what if anything would happen if you broke your PR?
What about Immaginarty (aka Bruce) was anything stated about what would happen if you broke your PR?

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I'm torn. Reading back on DBE she kept up the PR from the beginning. Spryx caught on and suspected what she might claim. The fact that 2 other people have a PR and know what will happen if they break that PR gives me strong doubts against DBE.
I agree with Mirth about IM. Also many others haven't weighed in which also concerns me.

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I have a thought. Just a thought mind you. Why don't we test DBE, PR. Let's unvote her (for the moment), she in turn must still talk without taughting to one person (just one post DBE) and tell us what happens if anything the Mod does for breaking the PR.
**Mind you this doesn't clear DBE, but the fact that she has be doing the PR since the game started makes me want to give her a bit of a chance.
If DBE agrees to these terms and everyone agrees it might help answer some questions.

unvote:

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Albatross!

L-2 now. Killa, why chenhsi. Farside, why risk a modkill?

Albatross!

She never said modkill, she stated bad things. I just wanted to see if she was going to back track. If everyones read that as modkill then I will nix the idea.

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Hmmm that's really not an answer...if Darla has a modkillable post restriction and she got herself modkilled on purpose without ending the day, that would make things easier...hmmm....

That was what I was hoping. However some mod's end the day when they mod kill someone and some don't. I kind had hoped to find out myself if the mod would end the day that way.

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Albatross!

Not good for the town to steer night actions IMO.

Albatross!

Very true. Despite all that Spryx makes are really good point. I want to hear from Iron Man right now before I vote just because Mirth is right his vote for Darla without reading anything and hasn't come back to explain himself is a real mystery right now.

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vote: chenhsi

anti town as in not scum hunting.
Honestly I am (1) waiting for Iron Man to say something and (2) part of me is curious to see what DBE can say that either gives information that helps the town or digs a hole so deep the her lynch makes me feel less concerned.

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@chenhsi and Killa7,

what do you two guys think of the recent claim vs claim situation that has been going on? Who do you believe is town and/or scum and why? Do you think it is possible both are scum? Do you think its possible both are town?

I don't feel either of them is the lynch today, but they should comment on the current situation. A wagon on one of them would be better saved for tomorrow since it can distract things from what I feel is more important.

I'm looking for some answers right now, but I understand what you are getting at.

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I think the last vote count had DBE at L-2. Mirth is waiting for Iron Man to come and clarify his role. I'm also waiting on Iron Man for his I see DBE is the vote and just votes without knowing why. That is every anti town. I fear Iron Man may need to be replaced (if he isn't picking up is prod or posting at this point) to get the game moving a bit.

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Mod: Have you prodeded Iron Man?

I've noticed some posting and received some inquiries about Iron Man's activity. He was prod'ed last night and picked up said prod. He has over 48 hours to post before replacement.

That is all.

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I really don't want to see this game die because one player doesn't want to or doesn't have time to respond.

unvote:
vote: DBE

Tomorrow if IM doesn't respond today will be the person I look the hardest at.

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With imagine's thats hammer?

Looking at the vote count that puts DBE at 8 votes and imagine should make it 9 votes (if his votes counts). So no that isn't a hammer.

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Albatross!

We've given him time. He needs to get moving already.

Albatross!

QFT. Like I said I don't want this game to die on waiting for one person. I think we can get some pressure when if you look at the past 4 post all said I'm good and waiting on IM. Kind of a crap thing to do for this game.

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vote: Iron Man

With the sudden guess my role to the I see DBE is the lynch and sudden disappearance. I don't get what happened with him.

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vote: Spyrex

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 55#1150555
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 46#1150746

Going over these posts again, I realized they claimed the same night action, ecept Darla added in the roleblock part which her death description doen't reflect. Spyrex, I want answers from you about that. Do you think both you and Darla would have the same role and be on opposite sides?

Also, I demand answers from Iron Man for yesterdays questions.

It seems like DBE was saying hers was a RB where Spyrex is saying his is a redirector.
Who did you target Spyrex and why?

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No.

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No.


also, there's a monty python skit where someone is trying to ask for a cigarette and matches and a conversation ensues with shoddy translation books and eventually one or the other is dragged off by the police...I'm a little rusty on it though, I'd have to do some youtube searching...but that's who I think pokerface is.

Can you link this skit?

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If you want to be propositioned about beastiality, talk to pokerface.

Oh dear lord. This is by far one of if not the funiest games I've ever been in. So noming shaft.ed for a scummy when this is all done. Shaft.ed is having way too much fun because I, in no way, was trying to ask something about that. When this game is over I will want to know what it is I really said word for word instead of the exact question I've been asking all game about cigs and matches.

I'm dying of curiousity to know what you asked. Can you tell us later before the end of day? I know you said it wasn't helpful, but I feel I'm missing the joke here.

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Poker what action did strappaddo do last night?

Okay I will go out on a limb and ask did you see Poker target strapp or something because Poker is saying he did something with Elvis.

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I could explain why I was lurking yesterday ... although I can't explain why I am playing today...

This sounds like you lurked on purpose.

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Ok, Just trying to keep track

@JordanA, Ironman,

Did you get visited by the bridgekeeper?

@K7, Pokerface

Just a definitive yes/no.

Can we not wait on Jordan and Ironman to hear what it is that you have to share please?

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I can't imagine a role like that belonging to scum. I'm thinking you might want to keep quiet on who you targeted at this point.

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No, I think you're trying to out someone by playing the "lets name random characters from Monty Python sketches and see if anyone bites" game and when no one does setting yourself up for a fake claim.

I really don't think strapp is doing this.
Strapp you kind of set yourself up by asking the question you did and not expecting people to question you when you bring something like that up. I don't see Mirth as role fishing in this regards.

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That would involve revealing my role. Would you like me to reveal my role?

Either way, I really want to hear from everyone what their opinion is on Spyrex's visit

@ EVERYONE

1.) Do you think Spyrex's claim of a visit is true?
2.) Why do you think it is true or not true?
3.) If you think he is lying - what benefit do you think he would get for lying and do you think he is scum.

1) I don't know the jury is out.
2) I don't like out guessing the mod and monty python is so odd as it is. Plus yesterday spryx comming out and doing what he did was how we caught DBE. Yes it is all WIFOM and we could go over whether there is actually 2 french taunters.
3) I don't think he is scum, but it isn't as simple or black and white with question 1. I think like with what happened to poker something could have been misinterperted.

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I don't think I missing anything thus far. I 'm going to read back and see if I'm missing anything. I will be gone tomorrow so don't expect anything till Monday

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Just did a read of the past 2 pages. I believe Strapp's claim. I think it has a lot of info. Now whether that is a scum or town claim I don't know, but I really haven't thought strapp is scum.
I don't believe Iron Man's claim. I don't understand how an annoucer becomes a bus driver role. That doesn't make sense to me, but if anyone has thoughts on how that is possible I would like to here it.

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Sorry, busy in RL.

I'm not sure what your waiting on me for? Is it the roleclaim?

I'll just come out and say it then. My role is the Announcer. My ability is that I can target a person each night. If that person performs a night action that targets a specific peron, then the taget is switched to another randomly selected target.

The only reason I hinted my role in the beginning was because at the time, I didnt actually consider this a serious mafia game. To tell the truth, I was kinda screwing
around. I thought this game was meant for a joke really. I wasnt trying to break anything or ruin the game in any way. I was just having a bit of fun.

I know that the rest of you will state that such actoins derailed the flow of the game and distacted from teh scum hunting. Looking back, I completely agree with this. I realize that now. At the time, I was just trying to make a bit of light fun. Honest.

this reminded me of this:

The Bus Driver is a pro-town role who may choose to switch two players each night. Thus, any night choice performed on a switched player will affect the other player targeted by the Bus Driver. The Bus Driver's night choices are only valid for that same night.


Spryx explained it better. I didn't think about the phrase.

unvote:

read through now needed.

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I can't force feed everything to you. There be tons of crazy ways to bread crumb things, you would just have to use your imagination and hope we'd be able to figure it out after your death. That's what hiders and weak docs do.

I'm curious to know why you mention roles like the above rather then cop or doc or normal roles that typically bread crumb.

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I can't force feed everything to you. There be tons of crazy ways to bread crumb things, you would just have to use your imagination and hope we'd be able to figure it out after your death. That's what hiders and weak docs do.

I'm curious to know why you mention roles like the above rather then cop or doc or normal roles that typically bread crumb.

Simple answer. Docs and cops can breadcrumb after and typically do it after since there skills alone won't kill them.

If a hider hides with scum or a weak doc protects scum they are dead usually and therefore can't really breadcrumb after. If spyre drew a kill to him, he would be dead.

A player can choose how to breadcrumb assuming they want to. Telling some one the exact code to use out loud would be bad. I suppose he can choose not to breadcrumb at all if he wants to aswell so with that I'll drop that issue.

That makes no sense, but I'm leaving it alone because I don't think it means anything. I just thought it was a strange comment to make.

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I also think that i we have to lynch someone today, IM isthe best candidate, because of his suspicius role.

Why do you feel his role is suspicious now?

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Didn't K7 say he target PF and it went through?

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How does voting for someone cause reaction or posting? And how does that make me a bad lurker?

Theory is that if the person is town and cared they would respond and help out. Also can be said for scum, either way it's getting someone to respond when all else fails and it looks like they are not helping the town.

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Well instead of playing the waiting game, maybe we should discuss others who we feel are scum worthy.
Right now I have only one person and really this is gut based on what she has said. I don't know how to explain scum vibe to people, but that is exactly what it is. I will give you quotes later, but another person I find scummy is Elvis_knits

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For example Elvis knows about PF's role, but in the beggining of the game says this about imaginality.

AH, now I get it. Everyone is Bruce. Imaginality = Bruce.

I don't understand the posting restriction... do you just have to mention Bruce in every post?

unvote Bruce; vote imaginality

(My prom date's name was Bruce. For reals.)

This just stands out because of what happened last night.

I think luigi should die. In a game where you are confused, why would you ADD to the confusion by typing backwards?

There are a few post here and there were EK calls a few people out, but I don't really see her pushing anyone really. Here is one post that just rubbed me wrong.

About DBE, I think she is the lynch for today, because I can't see their being two french taunters. Even if there were two french taunters I can't believe they would have different PR's and roles. I would think they would have the same role if they have the same character. I can't see a way for them both to be telling the truth.

I'm not sure of the VC, so I won't vote yet. Are we close to lynch? Are people willing to end the day?

By the way looking at her post I realized she never voted for DBE either.

Like I said it is those little things that just make me feel something isn't quiet right.

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For example Elvis knows about PF's role, but in the beggining of the game says this about imaginality.

AH, now I get it. Everyone is Bruce. Imaginality = Bruce.

I don't understand the posting restriction... do you just have to mention Bruce in every post?

unvote Bruce; vote imaginality

(My prom date's name was Bruce. For reals.)

Why is this scummy considering I guessed PF's role? How are they connected?

I know you are a smart girl. The fact that you figured out one person's role, but didn't know another person's role leaves a big fat question mark for me

This just stands out because of what happened last night.

I think luigi should die. In a game where you are confused, why would you ADD to the confusion by typing backwards?

Again... why is that scummy? Do you disagree with my reasoning or what?

Like I said. It just stands out because luigi died, but really just a hmm moment and WIFOM isn't something I like to go by

There are a few post here and there were EK calls a few people out, but I don't really see her pushing anyone really. Here is one post that just rubbed me wrong.

About DBE, I think she is the lynch for today, because I can't see their being two french taunters. Even if there were two french taunters I can't believe they would have different PR's and roles. I would think they would have the same role if they have the same character. I can't see a way for them both to be telling the truth.

I'm not sure of the VC, so I won't vote yet. Are we close to lynch? Are people willing to end the day?

By the way looking at her post I realized she never voted for DBE either.

I never voted for DBE because it would have been the hammer and people were asking not to end the day yet. It's obvious from my above post that I was against DBE and would have voted her. It's just that K7 swooped in and voted her while we were still waiting on IM.

The post is really wishy washy. I think DBE is the lynch for the day. Not really taking a stand either way on what to do. Like I said most of what I feel about this is gut.

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I don't believe I've seen weak doc or hider roles in any game I've been. I had BM claim he was a hider and was very blunt about his actions (game still in progress). Usually when people talk about breadcrumb they talk doc and cops for that type of thing.
As for Elvis some of her actions remind me of YRWYE mini that shaft.ed was the mod. I called her a smart girl then too and just a feeling in the back of my neck.

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Personally I'm done waiting for him, but since everyone is all for the waiting game I will wait till 4:00pm my time is PST and then vote. This is rediculous and this game deserves better then some lurkers.

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Ummm... why are you arguing about hammers???

Limited Access from August 4 to August 16 because of a summer camp.

I'm sure you presense will be unnoticed anyways.

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Just saying there is just over an hour for IM to respond. Hammer feels so heavy.

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SpyreX: Who did you target last night?

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I'm torn by many things. However i don't think it will matter. Iron man has not helped this game. Don't get me wrong. Even i have had days of being off and on in some game. Will holding up and talking more help this game. I don't see how. Today was more informative for scum then anyone i think. Holding back and waiting for one player is very fustrating. Eventually we need to move this game along and some slackers have hurt this game. i Love this game too much to let slackers hurt this game. Iron man has run and come and is not making any sense. Various roles have i'm sure confused most people. I don't think that iron man needs any more chances to keep us guessing. So with everything that has been discussed and my own suspicious.

vote: iron man

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Oh no... Mirth died...

Lucky its only 1 death...

Usually when someone comments on the lack of death they are typically scum reacting as a I'm a fake happy townie. Not liking this post at all.

FOS: Chenhsi.

I want to read through this game before I vote for anyone.

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Wait... can we talk about what happened yesterday with IM? Didn't some people say that IM was lying about his night action or something and must therefore be scum??

K7 said his action went through. Spryx didn't target him so there was only a doubt based on the fact that there could be a scum RB and I say scum because a townie would have admitted to RB Iron Man.

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It's scary that I agree with LG on some of his choices. Mine was just a gut check moment especially with the internet and Azimuth with their post. I will go back and highlight a few things that caught my interest with these 2.

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To Lord Gurgi, I'm sorry that I appear scummy to you, It's just the DBE lynch moved to fast for me to get the replies I desired, and I jumped at Iron Man because his testimony had some massive holes that he could not patch( why he targeted anyone, why it didn't work) and didn't want to lag out like on DBE, and

you'll note that I was one of the last to vote, but not the hammer, which is not a position scum usually take.

The reason I didn't get in on the chenshi debate is because I'm opposed to lynches because of lurking and thought we had a much stronger lynchee in Iron mian, though he is looking scummier now.

The part in bold is BS. I'm sorry scum will vote in any position and saying well I wasn't the hammer is what scum usually do then please tell me all the games in which scum was the hammer and I will point out all the games that scum was not the hammer. That is WIFOM and BS to boot.
I still need to do my read and get my reason's on here. I will work on this tomorrow.

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I'm not sure how much to say in what I know. I going to lay somethings out and others I'm just going to play coy. Sorry I just dont' know how else to go about it. I'm pretty certain (almost 90% certain) that there is a SK. Some of what I know I can narrow down who I think based on information given in this game that person may be. Here they are in no order:
Jordan (Now Imaginality)
tspn
Muerto
Azimuth
The Internet
Chenhsi

I would not be surprise if someone in this group was scum, but that would require more search of what sticks out with these people.
I find it interesting there was only one death which leads me to a question I going to ask the mod later. Depending on his answer I may add EK on this list. More on this later.

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@PF - Right now, I think K7 is town as well - not in any small part because I think YOU are town and that scenario doesn't make sense if you're scum.

I agree, after my debacle, that unless they think its going to help to not share information.

Farside, can you explain more about your list without giving away what you're aiming for?

Not without explaining my role and what I know via my PM. It's a bit weird but what isn't weird about this game.

[farside22]

I found out I can't clear EK due to her being blocked.
There are some weird machanics to this game.

[farside22]

I will say the only thing I think that will help some people (maybe) understand what I will be doing.
What ever doesn't kill me makes me stronger.
With that said I am going to look at each person I named and go through why and what I found as scummy.

[farside22]

My night action was screwed with. FYI. Would anyone like to admit it?

Also,

vote Chenhsi

I assumed by this comment above you were blocked or taunted as I believe Spryx admitted as much.

[farside22]

Out of laziness I'm going to say first 1, second post and ext instead of post numbers. If you are confused let me know. Also doing on person analysis a post because I get busy and lose notes:

Azimuth - 2nd post: Talks about attacking those who claim eagerly, but doesn't place a vote against anyone. 4th post claims he believes he knows IM's role. Talks about the silliness of the game. Post 5 states he believes claim and was going to guess IM as announcer. Starts to question IM after Mirth questions him. Post 6 he talks about his lack of voting (how are you agressive as post 2 states then) 7th post: votes Luigi for backwards talk (seems contradictory to previous statment.) Post 8: I'm quoting this one

I don't want to put her at L-2 in case there is disagreement from others

. This sounds like someone looking for approval. Post 9 another quoted moment:

I may not like some of Iron Man and Luigi's actions and (chenhsi and killa seven's lack thereof), but it is getting difficult to keep my vote off DBE

He keeps talking about others actions, but never says really what they are doing as scum. Post 12 another quote:

5. Right now killa seven and chenhsi appear to be worse than useless with their play style, particularly the latter. I know it's not very pro-town to say so, but I might easily be persuaded to help lynch them just to remove the distraction from this game. Also: Dear Mod, may we also prod JordanA24? It has been ten days since he posted anything here.

I don't understand one thing actually more then one. Why is cherish and K7 mentioned, but not others who are also not so talkative or helpful. Post 15: Threatening to vote IM but willing to wait (how nice of you) doesn't still really have a reason that people are scummy except for there lack of comment. Still at this point I get the impression that he is using what others say instead of his own point of view. Post 16 quote:

I definitely have not seen that to be the case, especially on days where a townie is lynched

. I laughed at this as only one townie was lynched thus far, but he stayed away from the scum wagon as well. I felt he missed LG point on purpose.

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--I singled out killa seven and chenhsi as "worse than useless" because they weren't just lurking; they were in fact more active than others but seemed to be deliberately refraining from posting anything of substance. I should say that farside22 points this out without giving any explanation why it makes her suspicious of me.

I pointed this out because there are others in the game that were not posting much either, but you left them out in your statement.

As for the not voting at the end of the day LG was talking about I think both day 1 and day 2 as neither day you had a vote on anyone.

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Next on my list of scum is chenhsi:

chenhsi - Post 1 claims to be confused. Post 2 didn't see imaginality had a post restriction (funny). Post 3 question here: Why would you join a game if you had no clue on the subject of the theme? post up to 18 is a whole lot of nothing to say. There really isn't much to say about Chernhsi. He doesn't post anything helpful. Doesn't seem to know what is going on in the game and really if he doesn't get how to play or what is going probably should asked to be replaced. I know I'm going to get grief for this, but I don't think chernhsi is scum. I just don't think he plays mafia. It's anti town to not participate, but he is low on my list as far as scum go and I see this as an easy lynch for scum to jump on.

[farside22]

Next: JordanA24 now (imaginality)

JordanA24 now (imaginality) - Post 3 FOS IM for trying to tell people is role, but votes and comment on those who guess. I don't like this post mostly because IM asked people to guess his role so why vote for one person who did it. Post 5: This caught my attention: (Congrats on making us waste 7 pages on a pointless quest to discover your role that only really gave an advantage to the scum by letting them know a town role (assuming you're not scum yourself, which wouldn't be too far-fetched considering you led us all on a wild goose chase for no good reason). Post 5 continued Jordan seemed to be the first one to point out that luigi was probably joking. Also brings up the point that spryx and DBE could both be scum. Still waiting on imagine long post
Reading everything that JordanA said there were a few things that came off badely, but in the end he scum hunted and point to some inconsitance in other that has me leaning on him as a little less scummy atm.

I'm taking a break from this for now. I will be back later with more.

[farside22]

I'm still here too...but dont have any leads...just waiting for someone to ping my radar. Still think chenhsi should be ashamed of himself whether he's scum or town. Haven't heard much from many other people. Game has quieted down...

I feel like I'm running a marathon that no one is racing with me.
Sigh.
Any thoughts on my points so far?

[farside22]

My read on Muerrto:

Muerrto - No post by Borge. Does a read through believes Sprye comments on hilarity. Prodded after 3 days has no opinion. Post 5 saying since DBE came up as taunter seems that Spyrex suspicious. (I can understand this) Post 6 Again i agree about the PR outing themselves with all this talk. By post 8 I'm curious why he keeps getting upset with all the soft claims (yes I know it stupid to soft claim or claim unless necessary, but some claims have some what helped me in narrowing down certain leads). By post 12 it is clear to me that Muerrto doesn't seem to vote alot. He also seems focused on those not posting more then those that seem scummy. Post 14 Thinks the BK (bridge keeper) as too powerful of a role question is if the BK is town isn't that a good thing then? Last post I just curious who you think is scum at this point and why if you agree with me and my post.

My read on Muerrto is inconclusive. It like he hasn't said enough to really get a read on and what he has said has been good (in the beginning) to nothing at all. I think the talk of lurkers is a bit hypocritical coming from him.

[farside22]

I have 3 more people.

TheSweatpantsNinja
SpyreX
The Internet

I will try and finish tomorrow, but I have one game I promised to do analysis on there so it depends on how busy my day is.
I would apprieciate any feed back to what I have stated thus far.

[farside22]

Now, there appears to be very little in the way of finding the silly people around here. Now, you should all really get back to work ten, nine, eight and all that

I think people are waiting till I'm done with my comments.

[farside22]

chenhsi: "You guys pick on me when I don't say anything, now you pick on me when I do say something, what do you want from me??!?!!!"

Imagine wins!!

[farside22]

After looking at Spyrex post I pretty much came to the conclusion he is telling the truth about his role. I think its odd that there could be 2 french taunters in the game, but is so far has been every interesting and informative. I think I would look at Sprex more if the others I feel are scummy come clean.

[farside22]

The Internet

Post 8: I disagree with this: If Iron man is trying tell us, then it is obvoiusly advantageous to know his role early on, so rolefishing would be the right thing to do. Even if he is false claiming, then it exposes him to a counterclaim earlier, exposing his scuminess earlier.) This should not be a day one mentality. Also this (Overall, rolefishing on Iron Man is the best play currently, and your attempts to stall it make me suspicious. I'm keeping my vote on you.) What are you nuts? Why is it the best play? How is it wrong from someone to question your motives? Post 9 (In response to what others have been saying, I guess you are right that I can't be sure about him being truthful, but if he claims, it still gives us more info, allowing us to scumhunt better.) What!?! How do you figure? Post 12 and now we have the complete turn around (Because I do not feel comfortable asking, and believe I have already rolefished enough on Iron Man. As for whether we should continue, I say for now we should only continue if someone asks us to, like Iron Man did, but that could change.) Post 16 ( I find DBE's defence to be hastily constructed and inadequate, but we must ask why he claimed. It's possible that he is scum, but it is also he was trying to his real role. I'm not going to vote, for fear of the wagon going to fast, but Darla, if you are going to confess to something, do it now) Do you still feel this way. Did you think a vote on DBE was not appropriate? The comment comes across as wishy washy. Post 17 agrues with DBE says we think and we this. Post 19 why think vig and not SK with Lugi's NK? Post 24 sounds like noise. No opinion for himself. Just wait, wait wait. Post 28 saying that randomize the target of the town power role screws up plans, randomizing mafia targets and leading to hit someone unprotected. Couldn't it also lead to mafia accidently shooting someone of their own group if IM chose right or move the doc to the right person. There were protown reason for the role.

Overall read of The internet I am leaning scum. His actions are most posting with nothing to add to the conversation. The only reason he gets to slide through is because K7, Chernshi and IM were much worse then him in regards to adding nothing.

[farside22]

TheSweatpantsNinja


Post 3 votes IM for being silly and worthy of a BW. Post 4 talks about votes spyrex for speculating about PR (weren't others doing the same?) Post 6 calls out chensi and DBE for non contributing. ( I dont' feel at this point TSPN has a right to be pointing fingers) Looking at post 7. Why is LG scummy for his PR but not Bruce (imagine). Quick vote for DBE and wants to pursue LG tomorrow (why?). Post 10: This interaction with imagine. IDK just something (

imaginality wrote:
I also wonder whether (and again this may be bad tactics so don't hesitate to tell me if this is a silly idea) rather than lynch Bruce today and then lynch Bruce tomorrow if Bruce does turn out to be telling the truth about her role, we might be able to find out more if we let them both live tonight?
Well, there's something to that. Both their night actions are potentially confirmable.)

Post 15 Says IM is the play today (umm what happened with LG?) Post 20 did this post just contradict itself or is it me (

Anyway, Iron Man. An anti-town redirector does seem likely. We already know that scum have night abilities, Iron Man's play hasn't been at all pro-town, his ability isn't particularly pro-town, my vote will stay where it is for right now.)

Post 24. I hope the above written tells you what fluff LG was talking about.

In the end TSPN hasn't had a single opinion except LG lynch and really never has a reason why. His posting is less then thrilling and he is another one following along on the now chenhsi BW.

I'm done with my scum thoughts. I think TSPN and The internet are the scummiest. I bet my life on it.

vote: The internet

[farside22]

I miss Mirth

Me too. She is a good interrogator.

Also, I think I should start doing some work for this game. It is a little unfair to make farside do everything. I think not much is happeneing because we're just waiting for chenhsi to die. Atleast that's what I am doing. But I will look into others too.

I know he is being useless but I feel others are using that to hide there own uselessness.

[farside22]

LG is Lord Gurgi. I used Luigi when ever I saw his name so people would not be confused.

[farside22]

Albatross!

Chenhsi does not respond to L-2. Farside, thoughts on that?

Albatross!

Has Chenhsi really responded to anything or anyone except Mirth? I think he doesn't care and should be replaced personally.

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Also: IM completely failed to answer why he chose to target anyone, completely ignoring my point.

You seemed to miss my point about how IM's role could be looked at in a positive manner. Also it tells me something that if K7 did get his action through and IM did not that IM was most likely RB which in turn seems like scum action since no one else claimed to take said action.

[farside22]

Also: IM completely failed to answer why he chose to target anyone, completely ignoring my point.

You seemed to miss my point about how IM's role could be looked at in a positive manner. Also it tells me something that if K7 did get his action through and IM did not that IM was most likely RB which in turn seems like scum action since no one else claimed to take said action.

I actually made a large section of my post to showing that it would most likely cause harm. Did you read it?

Yes I did and I'm stating how it can be used for good adding to it the fact that he was most likely RB.

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@PF: Trust me when I say I am not looking for you. See my post in regards to the internet on more of what I am trying to say.
As I said with Muertto right now my read was inconclusive. That means he isn't really scummy, but not exactly clear either. Just someone I have an eye on.

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PF: I really don't believe that LG is faking claiming.

[farside22]

Does anyone have a scum list they wish to share. Please state who your top 3 scum are and why. Just would be nice to here something beside Chernshi for lurking so damn much all the time.

[farside22]

Mine are:
Azimuth
Internet
TSPN

I have many reasons why on all three of them a page back for those interested. I know LG also wrote up a long list as well. Strapp why do you feel the 3 on your list is scum?

[farside22]

Mine:

K7
chenhsi
Azimuth.

The Internet would be 4th.

Why those 3 people. Don't make me ask everyone this question. I want everyone to post there 3 suspects and why!!!

[farside22]

My reasons for K7 are the ones I gave in post 1055, my reasons for chenhsi, Azimuth and The Internet are in post 1050. And in the case of Azimuth his posts since then come across as trying a little too hard to paint the picture of him as a helpful townie trying to keep up with a fast game, which is why I listed him above The Internet.

Sorry I had missed that. Thank you.
Question in regards to K7 do you think he is scum with PF since he question PF about his night action?
I have my own thoughts on this and want to hear from imagine on this please.

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K7 looks pretty suspect to me. I believe his role claim and power, but not his alignment.

Things that stand out:

- lurking most of Day 1
- hammering DBE without reason and before Iron Man could claim
- post 669 and 705 basically say "I hammered DBE because she was scum" which is not an explanation and doesn't answer Mirth's question of why he didn't wait for Iron Man to claim. He didn't answer that, or Mirth's other question about how his lurking could help town. And now Mirth's dead

Just a quick thought on what you said.
1) the problem with K7 is no matter his alignment he is not very talkative.
2) I know many a time scum has hammered their scum buddy and K7 comment looks suspect
3) I don't think K7 answer many question directed at him for long periods in any game I have ever played with him.
Yes I hate meta and unfortunetly some people are null tells because of the reason above. It doesn't mean scum to me or town when it comes to K7. I don't ignore him mind you I just have a grain of salt and dig it into a wound so I focus on some others that ring my scumdar.
The thing with K7's claim however i could see it as potential for scum or town. A role that watches someone that see someone else target them is a very interesting role. I don't know if scum could have been given the role. The fact that K7 question PF about strapp I would say not scum buddies for sure. Does K7 seem scummy on paper. Yes, but he is low on my list as cherhsi is because I see scum using people like that to vote on to help themselves.

[farside22]

Sorry PF that is right. The coconut thing throws me off.

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I can't say I agree with any of your choices there PF. I understand the LG thing, but as a mod myself sometimes I may give a role and it isn't always random. Spyrex is someone of interest but low on my scum scale and I still think Chernshi is an easy BW for scum to jump on.

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I can't say I agree with any of your choices there PF. I understand the LG thing, but as a mod myself sometimes I may give a role and it isn't always random. Spyrex is someone of interest but low on my scum scale and I still think Chernshi is an easy BW for scum to jump on.

The thing about Chenshi is (aside from his V/LA) - its obvious from timing he's been checking the thread and choosing not to contribute. When asked to contribute, he has not (in fact he moved from lurking, to lurking in plain sight). Considering, even with V/LA, he is still in this game I can only assume it is not lurking due to inattention but active lurking.

When you, with that, take what he's actually SAID - he has managed to contribute nothing and skate along. On top of that, he's managed more than once in his saying nothing to actually BE scummy while saying nothing.

You're saying that it is an easy wagon for scum to jump on - if he IS town, yes, that is true; he'll be left alive every day and there will be a wagon on him EVERY day. However, I think that his play has been scummy (not just for lurking, but for the timing and "content" he does post.

Despite the fact I am now even more confident Muerrto is scum, I -still- see chen as being obvious scum hiding behind a meta-shield.

So you want to lynch chernshi because whether town or scum he is a deterament instead of seeing if the mod will replace him instead?

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No, I want to lynch chenshi because I think he's scum. The fact that he's provided nothing reinforces the belief that he is scum.

I think that I made that pretty clear more than once above.

What has he done except contribute nothing that makes him scum?

Mod: Any chance we could replace chenshi?

chenhsi informed me he would be on vacation, but said he should be able to post within the game limits. I did not have the time to secure a temporary replacement as I did for JordanA24 since there was no advanced warning. He was warned that he will be replaced if he breaks the game posting rules, but asked that he be given a chance until such rules are broken.

[farside22]

@ farside - what reason(s) do you have for suspecting chenhsi might be town and a lynch on him might be negative for the town?

Its a gut feeling but Spryx brought up some good points. But part of the votes against cherish remind me of the iron man BW. With Cherishi on vacation I want to see who else is looks scummy to people and why.

[farside22]

darn farside, you really hate chenhsi's name, huh? hahahaha

The person is that forgetable for me.

[farside22]

It really hurts my sense of pride and game play when I see a player who says they are on vacation hanging around on the MS and not playing the game they said they would

FOS: Chenshi

[farside22]

I agree. . . and I'm also going to go ahead and ask if anyone

really

wants chenhsi around at endgame. I don't think he's going to be high on scum kill lists anytime soon.

unvote:
vote: TSPN

Seriously I know his play is terrible but asking people to vote him out right now because of end game is terrible logic. We should be looking for scum not gettting rid of a player that is contributing. I'm hopeful that the mod will eventual replace him so we can get someone who wants to play, playing the game.

[farside22]

Remember, Chenshi is at L-2 and has not claimed. Seeing that there are multiple people who have not yet voted that are suspicious of him, I urge them to wait until he claims (or refuses to).

Certainly.

zzzzzzzzzzz

[farside22]

Remember, Chenshi is at L-2 and has not claimed. Seeing that there are multiple people who have not yet voted that are suspicious of him, I urge them to wait until he claims (or refuses to).

Certainly.

zzzzzzzzzzz

lol...

So nobody else wants to lynch muerrto dead?

Personal I think the internet or TSPN are very scummy. I'm not sure about Muerto at the moment. I think I need to read those comment again.
What about my top 2 suspects. Any thoughts on their scumminess.

[farside22]

TheSweatpantsNinja


Post 3 votes IM for being silly and worthy of a BW. Post 4 talks about votes spyrex for speculating about PR (weren't others doing the same?) Post 6 calls out chensi and DBE for non contributing. ( I dont' feel at this point TSPN has a right to be pointing fingers) Looking at post 7. Why is LG scummy for his PR but not Bruce (imagine). Quick vote for DBE and wants to pursue LG tomorrow (why?). Post 10: This interaction with imagine. IDK just something (

imaginality wrote:
I also wonder whether (and again this may be bad tactics so don't hesitate to tell me if this is a silly idea) rather than lynch Bruce today and then lynch Bruce tomorrow if Bruce does turn out to be telling the truth about her role, we might be able to find out more if we let them both live tonight?
Well, there's something to that. Both their night actions are potentially confirmable.)

Post 15 Says IM is the play today (umm what happened with LG?) Post 20 did this post just contradict itself or is it me (

Anyway, Iron Man. An anti-town redirector does seem likely. We already know that scum have night abilities, Iron Man's play hasn't been at all pro-town, his ability isn't particularly pro-town, my vote will stay where it is for right now.)

Post 24. I hope the above written tells you what fluff LG was talking about.

In the end TSPN hasn't had a single opinion except LG lynch and really never has a reason why. His posting is less then thrilling and he is another one following along on the now chenhsi BW.

I'm done with my scum thoughts. I think TSPN and The internet are the scummiest. I bet my life on it.

vote: The internet

I seem to remember TSPN saying he was talking about luigi gangsta, not lord gurgi.

Does that have any bearing on your feelings farside?

But aside from that, I do have the general feeling that TSPN has been unhelpful this game. I've played with him before. I have the feeling that he doesn't always post super much, but he's usually pretty bold and understandable, and helpful despite not being long-winded. So, not sure if I have any specific problems with him, but my sense of his playstyle is different...

Yes I realize that LG was Lugi and that was an honest mistake between the 2, but his most recent comment about Chershi really bugged me. I feel like it's pushing for BS reason's at this point. Also my experince with TSPN is that he usually is an aggressive player and this time I'm seeing him sitting back offering little to nothing to this game. I don't recall his post style mind you, but he usually is aggressive. (I dislike meta honestly I think it doesn't matter how a person acts in one game versus another it is the game they are in now that I pay attention to). I don't like TSPN because he just is flying way too low on the radar and offers nothing to the scum hunt.

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oh yay, chenhsi's back... and instead of actually jumping in the game and discussing things, he's letting us all vote on whether we want to hear a claim or not.
Thanks chenhsi...but honestly, I'd rather you start participating, answering questions, asking questions, posting...maybe even <gasp> scumhunting. But yea, if you are incapable or unwilling to do that, sure, feel free to claim, whatev'.

Strap wins.

[farside22]

Will anyone's opinion be swayed by learning yet another role anyway?

It would take a confirmable, demonstrably pro-town role for me to change my vote. But just in case that's what happens, let the man claim.

Unless, of course, he refuses to. Then lynch him.

Any information he has from his role can be informative as well.
Back to sleep as we wait once again.

FOS: K7

Just because you aren't answering the question directed to you and playing just enough so you aren't replaced. Have some respect for the rest of the people.

[farside22]

As for chenhsi, his reluctance to claim yet is interesting, because he showed no reluctance to claim in other games I'm in with him and he flipped town both times in those games. This game he seems somewhat more nervous to. Look forward to hearing what he claims...

I'm not relucting to claim, I merely haven't been on the site. I am a black knight, and I can get killed twice at night and live. The third time, unfortunately, will kill me. I don't know how many times, if any, I have been killed so far.

unvote:
vote: chenhsi

Sort story I am trying to avoid an overzelous knight. I'm also thinking the ability is a 3 shot imune SK now.
That is all.

[farside22]

I will say the only thing I think that will help some people (maybe) understand what I will be doing.

What ever doesn't kill me makes me stronger.

With that said I am going to look at each person I named and go through why and what I found as scummy.

When Farside first said this I thought she was refering to the Black Knight. Were you farside?

Black

knight isn't mentioned, but I felt it was implied. Do you want to see my video link? I never had the time to sit down and watch the whole thing without getting interupted by something.

[farside22]

Sure

if you feel that is necessary.

It will give others something to watch while I find where I put some rather startling evedence I held off on posting earlier.

I don't think its necessary.

[farside22]

There's such a thing as a 3 shot immune SK?

My first thought was that he must be town b/c why would a scum need to have NK immunity - but if there are possibly 2 scum factions or a SK, I guess that would make sense.

... has anyone ever seen a pro-town role that had NK immunity?

Johnoo in SS2 had a pro-town done a protown role that was immune to 1 shot NK. However I typically see it with SK's more then townies.
I will watch the video all the way thru when my boss takes off and see if it tells me anything else. I will unvote so I have this chance and no one hammers.

unvote:

[farside22]

As for chenhsi, his reluctance to claim yet is interesting, because he showed no reluctance to claim in other games I'm in with him and he flipped town both times in those games. This game he seems somewhat more nervous to. Look forward to hearing what he claims...

I'm not relucting to claim, I merely haven't been on the site. I am a black knight, and I can get killed twice at night and live. The third time, unfortunately, will kill me. I don't know how many times, if any, I have been killed so far.

unvote:
vote: chenhsi

Sort story I am

trying to avoid

an overzelous knight. I'm also thinking the ability is a 3 shot imune SK now.
That is all.

That was not a claim that I'm anything. I stated I am avoiding an overzelous knight.

[farside22]

I have watched the video in full. My head offically hurts now. I am deffinately not looking for the black knight.
Shaft.ed you are a sick and twisted man.

My vote may go back on Cherishi as it is my understanding the Black knight wasn't a good guy.
Cherishi can you please link us the video you were sent.

[farside22]

I have so many questions after watching the video in full. I think I may cry out of confusion. Here is a question because I will admit to not being the biggest Monty Python fan.
In the quest for the holy grail the black knight stops the group from moving forward. Is that right or what was the complete story on that? It might help me to determine Cherishi role a bit knowing the answer.

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I have watched the video in full. My head offically hurts now. I am deffinately not looking for the black knight.
Shaft.ed you are a sick and twisted man.

Wait. You're trying to avoid the over zealous knight? I think I know who you are and there's no way someone would false claim what I'd consider a pretty minor role.

And yes, the Black Knight was a bad guy altho hilarious.

In light of the claim I could vote Chensi. Especially since being immune to kills twice with no other powers is strange to be sure.

I'd like a VC first tho.

Bless you. I am confused more because I forgot about certain things in the movie. So now I wonder if that overzelous knight is evil and the black knight is good because didn't he stop the overzelous knight or do I have the wrong movie?

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Yay that was my bad. Somewhere along the lines I lost count vote wise. Farside did unvote so yay that was totally my bad. Still though I would prefer no one hammer til everything was sorted.

I unvoted for fear of K-7 coming in and hammering. I want to hear the rest. My problem with chershi claim is that it fits a SK more then townie.

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You know an interesting thought just crossed my mind.

Alot of people are saying his role fits an SK and yet the only kill an SK Black Knight could have made so far would be on Luigi since the Spainish Inquisition got Bruce and Mirth.

Farside said she is looking for an SK and it is probably not the Black Knight.

@Farside,

can Chenshi be an SK in your mind based on what you know.

@Strappado,

You just asked Chenshi for who his partners may be. So you think he has a potential for being Mafia or Cult. Who would you guess as his partners. What do you think of him being an SK?

Based on what I know as far as my role and what not is that the person I'm avoiding is considered a good guy for the movie, but in my role reads as a bad guy. Considering he is the only one I'm trying to avoid I felt that character may be the SK, but a part of me wonders if he is only looking for one person and not a SK (does that make sense in some way?)
Now I'm going to be a bit blunt and I appologize to Chenshi if this comes across as rude. Part of me thinks it's possible that Chenshi is the SK as he is not paying attention. I could see him forgetting to submit information during the night phase. There is at least once I recall for sure where Shaft.ed (mod) stated that some people didn't turn in there actions and he was going to give more time. I could see Chenshi being one of those people.

[farside22]

Well I just went back and looked at LG's post. Today alone not only did he have that big one post in the begging of the day he has posted 24 times with the albatros and not put in another big post in there at all.
Question is if he goes over his post limit is there a penalty?
Also didn't he say at one point he was penalized for the mess up?

[farside22]

unvote:
vote: Chensi

By the way please if I die reread my post for any indications that I left behind.

[farside22]

vote: The internet

FOS: Azimuth

[farside22]

Well I already stated my suspicions on both people. Azimuth is a real close second considering yesterday as we were talking about votes on people he stated he didn't vote for DBE, but he didn't vote for IM either. Well guess what his vote wasn't on chenhsi either. That is 2 scum down with no vote from him on either.

I'm doing a quick analysis based on just the last vote count to get a general idea on people, but there really isn't that much to go on looking at it. Mostly I noticed both the internet and Azimuth never voted for the scum either day.

[farside22]

I read the hungarian scene and I get the impression on reading it that the hungarian doesn't really know what he want's or what he is saying is just weird. Here was that link. I'm going to see if I find anything on what you have poker.

http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/hungry.htm

[farside22]

Well I did as much as I could in the research department. I'm wonding if there is a tobaconist or if that person is scum. Seems like to me reading the scene well I don't know if I should say what I think actually on this. If the tobacconist is scum I don't want to show my hand on my thoughts now.

[farside22]

I have no wisdom to offer regarding tobacco or Hungarian.

So, two French Taunters after all, one town and one mafia? Our mod is close to being naughty in my sight.

As soon as chenhsi came up mafia I wondered whether someone might go after whoever didn't vote for him. Frankly, if I were mafia and had a partner as useless as he was I'd make darn sure I was on his bandwagon by the end of the day, but that goes into WIFOM, of course.

I suppose one idea might be to go back and see who was especially distressed by chenhsi's play style early on; that might be an indication of partnership, if a weak one.

BTW, farside22: why do you say I "never voted for the scum either day"? Do you know for sure that killa seven is town? How? I'm still wondering about him, among others I've mentioned.

I'm talking about the two that we lynched and shown as scum. Nice try though.

[farside22]

vote: The internet

FOS: Azimuth

Just as expected. I'm guessing you will add not being in on another scum lynch to your list. I'm sorry, but I was uncomfortable hammering. Now please reply to my argument in full that I have posted several pages back.

Just went back and read your agruement. Also noted chenshi was #3 on your scum list and your constant I don't feel comfortable with lynching chenshi comments. I see about 4 comments that can be looked at as you defending chenshi. For eveyone's amusement I bring you quotes from the internet in regards to Chenshi lynch.

Of those, I think Chenshi is the least scummy,but still must be considered. I also would not discount Chenshi being mafia, because he be not listening or being bussed. Before you leap at me for not listing K7, I was unclear about he did N1, but It has been clarified for me. Also, to those listing me on their list, have you read my posts in my defense? Also, to PF specifically, what do you mean by the softclaim?

I'm think of voting, but I'm worried about lynching another townie. I'd wait for chenshi's reply, but that would happen only slightly before the heat death of the universe. I''l let the town discuss for a real life day or so before voting.

You have to remember that chenshi might be lying about his role. After all, the black knight is a fairly well known character. Also, PF, have you used your "ace" yet?

Seeing whats happened so far, I think it is adviseable to lynch chenshi today. However, he is at L-1, and though he is the best candidate for lynching, I feel that he has not dropped any major scumtells and not that many monor ones, so I'm not comfortable hammering him.

#2 is wishy washy at best. The oh he could be lying and I'm now seeing the K-7 looking scummy comment that seems to be trying to show K-7 as scum for reasons based of what happened with IM. The forth one shows again how blah he was with the lynch of chenshi.

[farside22]

I give you not a number list, but your own quote. Chew on it.

Alright I'm back, and here's my scum list
Muerrto (oddly selective scumhunting patterns, keeps trying to dodge questions with semantics)
TheSweatpantsNinja (Wishy washy votes which appear to attempt to start or join bandwagons)
chenshi(what else? lurking and contradictions)

Of those, I think Chenshi is the least scummy,but still must be considered. I also would not discount Chenshi being mafia, because he be not listening or being bussed. Before you leap at me for not listing K7, I was unclear about he did N1, but It has been clarified for me. Also, to those listing me on their list, have you read my posts in my defense? Also, to PF specifically, what do you mean by the softclaim?

[farside22]

This is your last statement in regards to chenshi's lynch.

Seeing whats happened so far, I think it is adviseable to lynch chenshi today. However, he is at L-1, and though he is the best candidate for lynching, I feel that he has not dropped any major scumtells and not that many monor ones, so I'm not comfortable hammering him.

Wishy washy at best. My vote stands.

[farside22]

Azimuth: My vote on the internet is not just his lack of vote on chenshi, but his wishy washy attitude in regards to lynch that I find hard to swallow.
Side note: Can't believe people are ignoring that conversation. Also talking about why spryx was killed is all WIFOM and can be used by scum to make someone else look guilty.

[farside22]

This is your last statement in regards to chenshi's lynch.

Seeing whats happened so far, I think it is adviseable to lynch chenshi today. However, he is at L-1, and though he is the best candidate for lynching, I feel that he has not dropped any major scumtells and not that many monor ones, so I'm not comfortable hammering him.

Wishy washy at best. My vote stands.

Farside...

I think your point about having someone on your scum list but never at the top and voting them is valid. But don't you think scum might as well hammer their buddy if they're L-1? I mean, it's not as if they can prevent the lynch at that point. I know it's WIFOM, but I really think scum would try to be the hammer or be on the wagon if they knew they could not prevent the lynch.

True I will give you that. I think my problem is that he was always wishy washy about Chenshi lynch.

[farside22]

I don't remember Lancelot trying to recruit people. I thought it was Arthor who was trying to get people to join his knights on finding the grail. Was Lancelot trying to drum up recruits for the same thing or something else?

With how crazy this setup is I wouldn't be very surprised to see a cult recruiter. To have Arthur or Lancelot here as a cult recruiter would be interesting. Any chance Farside could be looking for a recruiter instead of an SK along these lines?

<<beats a beehive with a stick

Doubtful. Could be a bastard mod thing where the person I'm avoiding is a good guy who kills me, but I can't see it as on my read of my role it seems he is looking for me. I saw Muertto got the idea, but I dont' know if that is because he knows the movie or because he is the role I'm avoiiding.

[farside22]

Well, this question may bring a whole can of whoop ass down on top of me, but what the hell, I love a good grave digging.

If there were a sir lancelot in this game... do you think he would be a cult leader?? The idea just hit me because in the movie, isn't he going around trying to recruit people to join his...like...whatever it is?

Thoughts?

Did you see Sir Lancelot target someone and I hate to ask if you did can you share who he targetted?

[farside22]

So, did nobody look at SpyreX last night? I agree with PokerFace; it's possible a killer was his target and that's how he died. We seem to have a few tracking or tracking-related roles; I'd especially like to know whether killa seven sent someone after SpyreX.

Still, much of my focus is still on killa seven, at least until he decides to make contributions to the game beyond a terse, unhelpful post whenever he gets prodded. Whom did he target last night, and whom did he want that person to track (or "watch" or whatever)?

I sent spryrex after farside22.. this is second night in a row someone i sent to track has died i dont know if its just a coincidence or what.

I'm so confused by K-7 ability. Can someone (PF) explain how this works again. What does it mean with him sending Spryrex after me?
Also K-7 why did you target me and Spryrex?

[farside22]

K7 can select someone to act as a tracker. He also selects their target.

Night 1: Selected PokerFace to track strappado
Night 2: Selected Mirth to track Lord Gurgi
Night 3: Selected Spyrex to track farside22

His ability was confirmed by PokerFace. However the trackers N2 and N3 both died. I'm wondering if he is scum and choosing trackers that he knows will be killed so the town doesn't gain any more information.

Didn't he say something to PF about why he targeted strapp?

[farside22]

I targeted Muerrto last night, and saw the bridgekeeper and sir lancelot visit him.

Not sure what lancelot would be. Still dont know what the Machine that Goes Bing is..it visited spyrex the first night, it's obv not a bad thing, might be a doc type thing..

ATM I dont trust Azimuth or k7... farsides points on the internet are decent, but...meh.

Muerrto, you asked who visited you last night...you know the BK visited you, and I dont leave any trace of having visited...so did lancelot leave something or give you a message or something? How did you know someone else visited you?

Just as a big moment for me. Sir Lancelot is the one I'm avoiding.
"Have fun trying to find me!!!" HAHAHAHAHHA

[farside22]

uhm...I dont get it... he shouldn't have any trouble finding you...right?
So confused

He has to find me. I"m not easy to find.

[farside22]

The 2 cons on finding the cult recruiter is (1) do we know what caracter could be a recruiter and (2) a safe claim.
I would like if we agree on a mass claim certain people to do first and the majority decides on who goes first.

Vote: For massclaim

[farside22]

My problem is the recruiter might now python and if everyone claims he can figure someone to claim that isn't his real character.

[farside22]

unvote muerrto

since strappado says spyrex didn't visit muerrto. Makes my idea much less plausable.

I'm thinking I should claim first, now, and the rest of you might not have to go through with a mass claim because I think my role and information that I have will shed some light on the situation, and possibly change some of your ideas.

Should I go ahead?

If you think it helps then claim.
Do you think a massclaim will help?

[farside22]

Looks like I am going to miss all the fun for the next 3 days. I look forward to some people's post. Muertto, the internet and Azmith all need to be really looked at . Seriously.

[farside22]

All I want is Sir Lancelot to claim. If you are not scum Lancelot I want an explananation from you about your role.

[farside22]

No. And it's not mod killery.

At the risk of this counting as my punishment it's vanillery and yes I've seen that penalty for roles alot.

And if I become vanilla for that I hate you.

And you should KNOW I'm not vanilla now since I asked who targetted me besides the bridge keeper.

You seem to think the cult recruiter is a red herring. You know that makes you look like the cult recruiter right?

[farside22]

Just to make a small note. I don't know if Elvis role is a SK. My PM says to avoid her basically. Sorry its' late and I"m tried, but to answer Elvis question.
My what ever kills me makes me stronger I was trying to hint the best way I could what my ability is. I'm not going to say any further what that ability is. Obviously I confused Elvis and a few people (which surprises me). I don't want to die and enjoy this game too much to say much more.

Side note: I still love you Elvis. I knew you pinged my scumdar for some reason. Still like my vote where it is and Elvis I still want you lynched so I don't have to die.

[farside22]

Does anyone want to admit to being recruited?
Well it's worth a shot to ask. Sigh. I don't know why but I get the impression for the LG and Muerrto talks that Muerrto isn't the recruiter. However the vote on EK troubles me. I don't like her alive either however I would rather lynched scum at the moment. I'm under the impression that scum or a cult recruiter has more to fear from EK then I do at the

moment.
FOS muerrto

[farside22]

Does anyone want to admit to being recruited?
Well it's worth a shot to ask. Sigh. I don't know why but I get the impression for the LG and Muerrto talks that Muerrto isn't the recruiter. However the vote on EK troubles me. I don't like her alive either however I would rather lynched scum at the moment. I'm under the impression that scum or a cult recruiter has more to fear from EK then I do at the

moment.
FOS muerrto

If you can tell me how a claimed SK who can win with anyone is less of a threat than scum with 2 dead I'll listen...

And I got a 'FoS' for that?

Because (1) there could be a cult recruiter no one knows for sure except if anyone was recruited. (2) the mafia would want to see the SK die as that means they could be killed. If the SK can win with any team then her death lynch will come up for sure. No WIFOM on this one. I just don't think she is the lynch today and if their is a cult recruiter then we need to find that person first or one of the recruited and hope they are scum too.
So yes you get an FOS for saying we should lynch the SK instead of seeing if their is a recuiter or looking for scum because guess what if the SK wins with my death she will have problems killing me easily so I'm not worried that should say something.

[farside22]

Farside: will you fullclaim as part of the massclaim?

Sure if there is a mass claim I will full claim. I don't think mine claim is necessary, but whatever the pep want.

[farside22]

Because (1) there could be a cult recruiter no one knows for sure except if anyone was recruited. (2) the mafia would want to see the SK die as that means they could be killed. If the SK can win with any team then her death lynch will come up for sure. No WIFOM on this one. I just don't think she is the lynch today and if their is a cult recruiter then we need to find that person first or one of the recruited and hope they are scum too.
So yes you get an FOS for saying we should lynch the SK instead of seeing if their is a recuiter or looking for scum because guess what if the SK wins with my death she will have problems killing me easily so I'm not worried that should say something.

Ok well that's different. I don't know your role. If you're 'safe' then we'll ignore Elvis for now and hope I guess.

Unvote

If you die Elvis dies next lynch, obviously.

As for who's scum I'm not sure. I'm still quite sure there's no cult and anyone who thinks I'm the recruiter I'd like your list and reasons of my recruits. I'd also like to know why I'm alive even though Elvis tried to kill me and how I saw her coming.

I still don't like leaving a claimed SK alive and I'm not sure I can even link a game where people have done it. I think you're all insane.

Well knowing that I'm avoiding her and she is trying to get me. I have no issue with her alive. If the town feel someone is scum or in this case the recruiter she should kill them. She does so the town wins. Only and I mean only if EK complies with the town wishes (and I don't want to see directing I want scum list of 3 possibles from everyon) then EK will live till either (1) I feel she deserves to win as SK (which I may do) or (2) we lynch her for a full town win (which I don't know if I trust someone saying the win with which ever side wins).

[farside22]

unvote:
vote: Azimuth

I don't believe your case and it feels OMGUS.

[farside22]

So did massclaim just fall by the wayside? I still think that's a good idea. I would also still prefer Internet over Azimuth.

As long as those 2 are the first to claim. I am good with a mass claim.
Is there any objections except by Muerrto?

[farside22]

So did massclaim just fall by the wayside? I still think that's a good idea. I would also still prefer Internet over Azimuth.

why are we mass claiming?

To see if we can find the cult recruiter.

[farside22]

Sorry about that. Been real busy as of late. There are quite a few aspects about Elvis's role that don't match up with the hunter role I seen before. I don't see too many of them as any great problem. They are wierd but nothing big in my book. In general I get the impression that if what she claims is true about her role, that Shaft.ed made it all up off the top of his head, without influence of him ever seeing the hunter role I have seen. Which wouldn't surprise as I am fairly certain Shaft.ed made up some aspects of my role from scratch. I never seen anything like my role before. More on all this involving Elvis's role when I get more time later. I'm at work right now. Heres that count:

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Massclaim(6): PokerFace, Farside, Strappado, Ninja, Internet, Imaginality,

No Massclaim(2): Muerto, Azimuth

Indifferent(1): Gurgi "I'll go with it if rest of town does"

Not voting (2): Elvis, K7

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I am also wondering if the mass claim will be necessary or if its better to take someone suspicious, Vote them, have them claim then before lynching and then proceed to analyze their claim and then decide if they are the best lynch. Maybe have the most scummy claim first ain't a bad idea should we find them cult and not need other claims. It would keep more things secret. Basically I'm estimating which one is quicker and better further. I looked back at a couple of things and I haven't really seen anyone deeply defending another person. Either the recruits know the recruiter and the cult recruiter has been recieving no flak this game; he hasn't needed help or corroboration to defend himself. Or I more rationally see a cult that doesn't know its leader or one that doesn't exist at all.

In terms of speed finding things and narrowing them down, I think massclaim still wins out and a good idea, but if there is no recruiter then I worry we will be giving away to much to the mafia. If we can find the recruiter through basic scumhunting and voting to lynch without massclaim, that would be best. I'll make a big post on all these matters and who I think is scummy later on. Even though we got a majority vote for massclaim, I'd still like to hear the bad or devil's advocate version of our actions from it's protesters so that we all understand and know what risks we are taking before any claiming begins.

Well I think Azimuth and the internet as the scummiest. Not sure about Imaginality or Muerrto. I think people aren't voting either which they should be if they are suspicious of anyone. No one is even near L-1. So if people want how about a list of your top 2 suspects and who you would vote for right now. I think those not voting should vote though to add pressure to those who are scummy.

[farside22]

You guys think I should mention the other unique skill that hit me night 1?

Only if you think it helps the town.
So who is voting for whom at this point?

[farside22]

For the record just because I agreed with LG on his post doesn't mean squat unless you want to say that Elvis is also my scum buddy and we made this whole thing up. So far that is a big fat chance to make.
Also LG was questioned by Poker in regards to is PR as well as others so him saying he hates his PR when questioned doesn't seem like sympathy to me.

[farside22]

Albatross!

How's it credible to say we're chummy off one post?

Albatross!

Wait lets see how far he buries himself. He is in for such a surprise from me at least.

[farside22]

Elvis states she is looking to kill the wedding party. I stated I am avoiding Sir Lawcelot which is her role. Since you decide to bury yourself and not actually read the game let me enlighten you by showing where I breadcrumb my role.

Here is a bit right before Iron Man was lynched:

I'm torn by many things. However i don't think it will matter. Iron man has not helped this game. Don't get me wrong. Even i have had days of being off and on in some game. Will holding up and talking more help this game. I don't see how. Today was more informative for scum then anyone i think. Holding back and waiting for one player is very fustrating. Eventually we need to move this game along and some slackers have hurt this game. i Love this game too much to let slackers hurt this game. Iron man has run and come and is not making any sense. Various roles have i'm sure confused most people. I don't think that iron man needs any more chances to keep us guessing. So with everything that has been discussed and my own suspicious.

vote: iron man

If you look at everything I capitalized you see a hidden message.
I hate to spell it out, but seriously if anyone listens to this guy you are nuts.

[farside22]

By the way forgot to add after that night when I didn't die (which I thought I was going to) Spyrx admitted to doing his things to Elvis and Elvis stated she was RB which is why I don't think I died, but I really don't know.

[farside22]

I never targetted you farside. The night spyrex targetted me, I tried to kill chenhsi. I think I was RBed because Spyrex didn't die.

About massclaim, I think it's fine. I don't really see why we're doing it now though. I'm most interested to hear why muerrto didn't die last night, but he says he can't claim.

About me killing tonight -- how many people agree with azimuth -- that they want me to refrain from killing? I'll go either way. I said I would roll with the consensus.

I will explain later on the first part,
I think it depends on what happens today,s lynch if you should kill or not.

[farside22]

I win with the town no matter what it looks like. Also Elvis I'm the only person you are looking for to win, however if you read my post targeting me alone will do you no good.
Pretty much PF my top 2 our the same as your top 2. I could see Muertto as cult, but I'm not sure about anyone else.

[farside22]

PF I never had the role before. I don,t die targeting scum. Should have died when I targeted E.K. Don't understand why I didnt

[farside22]

@Farside,
If you were suspicious of Elvis, and you had the potential for death by hiding with you "Hunter" and not with usual scum, then why the heck would you hide with someone you were suspicious of? Sounds like a simple way to shoot yourself in your own foot.

I shared my suspicion that day and left a clue in case I died. I thought why not take a chance and find whoever it was. I guess you could saying instead being hunted I wanted to hunt the hunter sort of speak.

[farside22]

I think voting might get some people (cough Azimuth) to start claiming.

[farside22]

Shoulg list this too.

Those who have not yet

full

claimed

Azimuth
Farside
Gurgi
Imagordan - (Imaginality2 / Jordan)
Internet
Muerto
Ninja

I'm pretty much fully claimed, but dice role is fine or letting azimuth go first (which I think would be fab) then dice role works.

[farside22]

I don't see God as a RB. Probably he through that out there since Elvis admitted to be RB.

[farside22]

Nice Azimuth, trying to scare people into unvoting you? "Oh my goodness, if I keep my vote on Azimuth, everyone is going to think I'm cult!" pshaw - that was weak and ridiculous. Why on earth would you be such a threat to a cult that they would be willing to possibly out themselves by working together to get you lynched. I think it's obvious that everyone voting you just thinks you're scum, pretty plain and simple there bub.
That was cute though, good try.

Don't forget that 3 out of 4 people he thought were scum were the ones voting against him. Nothing OMGUS about that at all.

[farside22]

But I will ask one of them again to those voting for me: do you think that I'm mafia or that I'm cult?

I'm pretty certain mafia. Of course God as cult would make sense as God recruits for relious purposes. (Mind you this has nothing to do with Monty Python and all to do with religion. My appologies to any religion who felt offended)

do you deny that you have been chummy? Can you otherwise explain why you were so sure of each other's innocence, so early in the game?

What is this day 4 and day 3 was the day LG and I both agreed with each other on scum suspected? What exactly do you consider early game?

Now how about my question in regards to Elvis. Do you really think the mafia would know about a SK in the game? Do you think they would have a hider role? If it is one elaborate plan then that would make Elvis scum too. Do you really think in an 18 player game their are 5 scums?

[farside22]

I don't have time to read everything. Just a quick thing here:

Farside, I am not saying do it, but are you able to full claim without penalty?

It doesn't look like I have a penalty and as I know this is going to sound horrible scummy I was given a fake name to use. I don't know why and when I asked the mod about it I got a null response.

[farside22]

I don't think the cult is a red herring at this point. I still have my suspicions on the internet. TSPN is playing under the radar which bugs me too.
Also just throwing it out there, but isn't it typical for someone to be offered to join the cult and either being killed for saying no or join? I honestly don't know as I had only one cult game and that was part of the catch. Also if I was targeted by anyone I would not have been hit with anything because I can't be found.

[farside22]

This was the cult game I was in.

viewtopic.php?t=8167

I was wrong it was the person who was the cultist who either killed the player or tried to recruit them.

[farside22]

Yes, I read and comented in that cult game. Muerto was also in that game. In that game you could not refuse to be recruited. You were recruited or killed based on what the cult recruiter chose to do to you.

There was like 4 roles not including the other cultist that could not be recruited. You would like there would be one person who was unrecruitalbe in this game but meh. I still don't think cult unrecruiter is a red herring.
Also some roles you could be like yes that fits or no that doesn't fit. So far the black night fit as scum. 2 french taunters. I typically associate RB with scum. Yes I know they can be either, but Azimuth's play in general and the people he is accusing as scum is terribly OMGUS. Amoung other issues I had so the role claim alone doesn't mean anything.

[farside22]

Albatross!

Don't steer any power roles. It is a bad idea.

Albatross!

I don't think that is happening here. Elvis has her own suspcions and after today's lynch and tonight's actions that should answer a few things for everyone.

[farside22]

Albatross!

See Farside? Anyway, Azimuth is two from lynch. Not lynched.

Albatross!

Are you talking about TSPN's comment just now?

FOS: TSPN

I don't want any directing there are things in this game we have no clue about.

[farside22]

Albatross!

Yes. Is there anyone who doesn't think Azimuth is scum?

Albatross!

*cricket*
*cricket*
*cricket*

I think the quiet is defening with that question.

[farside22]

If you like PF I can tell you who else I targeted n1 and n3 if you really are suspcious of me.

[farside22]

"The Wedding Party" visited Lord Gurgi last night... what kind of character do you suppose "The Wedding Party" is? Is that farside?

Yes that is me. I hide that is why elvis would have trouble finding me.

Also I recall that Muertto and the internet were both visited by the bridge keeper. (Is that right?)

[farside22]

Albatross!

This means that the Bing Machine is almost certainly doc.

Albatross!

probably. I think we should mass claim. I am bothered by a few things now.

[farside22]

Albatross!

OK. At this point we either Massclaim or drop speculation.

Albatross!

I vote mass claim.

Also can someone verify who else stated they were visited by the bridgkeeper. I think it was the internet.

[farside22]

Alright I found it. The internet was indeed visited by the bridge keeper. Anyone else want to admit to being visited by the bridge keeper? Speek now I think it will help.
Now back to my thoughts on cult. At this point I think either the cult hasn't succeeded in recruiting people or their is no cult. I don't believe in red herrings so it is slightly suspicious to me.

[farside22]

I am offically confused. (sigh). I really don't think the internet is scum and yes I know the whole WIFOM is not always on par, but someone with TSPN visiting his own scum partner for information just does not make sense.
I think I just need to sit down and read everyone again I keep getting this feeling that although azimuth is wrong about me I wonder if I'm ignoring LG because of his post restriction. No I don't think he is faking it, but I haven't heard him give us anything as town we could use. He states taht he has to do his PR or loses his ability, but what ability is that he has gained? What is it that he has learned. It just stated bugging me now that Azimuth flipped town.

[farside22]

I will only agree with what Farside said after I review what it is I'm searching for. Saying he isn't mafia doesn't make him not cult if there is actually a cult despite how I am doubting it now.

I have thought a few things over on massclaim or not based on who I know is what role at this point. Just wish I knew the alignment of the roles. I am leaning more on that thing being a wierd flavor variant than being a doc after reading some things. I reviewed over things and I actually doubt it will hurt to tell all who is what since there is only 3 left. And since I can already guess who's what, Scum can probably too. Only Gurgi, Internet and Imagordan really need to vote on this. You guys want "FULL" massclaim or not? Only you guys need to pick, Gurgi ain't gave a skill yet. I'm guessing its already a yes from Gurgi considering what he said earlier. So that leaves Internet and Imagordan.

BTW we should verify If what internet said is true. Was anyone visited by the bridgekeeper last night?

I know that I wasn't.

I was not visited by the bridge keeper.

[farside22]

@Farside, Did you actually get Imagordan's night 3 action?

No. Probably because I'm a hider anyone who targets me will just fail so I can not confirm that action.

I don't see a need for you to do the tiger stuff at this time. I did not know or think anything about that earlier.

I don't think he should do this now, but now that it is out there is a strong possiblity of him being killed because what mafia would want a one shot vig in play?

[farside22]

Albatross!

I was not visited. Where is killa seven? He's lurking.

Albatross!

What information can you give us about your night actions? Will you claim everything and what exactly you get for doing your post restriction?

[farside22]

Albatross!

I don't get squat for following, breaking is the problem.

Albatross!

That was not my question. I asked what do you get. What night actions or powers have you received if any? Will you do a full claim?

[farside22]

Albatross!

Sure, it will be my free post however. That okay?

Albatross!

Do I have to wait till you have had 12 post because I hardly see you use your free post?

[farside22]

I did not get anything or have anything PM'ed to me the night in question.
I think K-7 and imagine need to say if anything weird happened.