Monty Python's Mafia Circus Game Over

[Lord Gurgi]

Albatross!

Thank you!

Unvote; Vote: DBE

Fake French < Real French! [/racialism]

Albatross!

[farside22]

I'm still thinkin Chen for tomorrow, but since I've had to say my role, should I say more and let the town direct me or keep it up for suspicion?

Do what you think is best, but I say hint at what you are going to do if you are good at hinting in case the scum NK you.

[strappado]

Well hot-damn, we might be able to lynch us a scum day 1, yeeeee doggie

unvote, vote: DBE

[Mirth]

Comments: I asked Luigi about whether he was faking a post restriction first. Didn't expect everyone to jump on him at once after that. Very not happy with Iron Man about being the L-2 vote and a couple of other people on that wagon.

I also don't like how fast this wagon on Darla is growing. I would like to hear her answer my question. I also don't think I'm going to believe Spyrex's claim right away. (Honestly, Darla's actions seem congruent...the French don't actually answer Arthur's questions...don't know if I believe her though.) So I ask that y'all hold off voting until both Darla and Spyrex talk more.

Also, hi Muerrto!

[strappado]

nah, if she turns up town, we'll go over spyrex tomorrow.

I still GMEOY Mirth, trying to seem townie by playing overly cautious...hmmmmm

[farside22]

Mirth is a caution person I notice. She wants answers and conversation is not bad.
Mirth: Do you think Spryx is lying or DBE is lying then?

[Mirth]

Have you eye on me all you want. I don't support lynches that don't allow for the accused to answer before being lynched.

[PokerFace]

A couple things I want to say. We shouldn't lynch darla before muerto gets a chance to read the thread. I am fairly certain the person I am searching for is either Town or he doesn't exist so letting muerto check in would help me figure some things out. There is also something I want to note. I mentioned the possibility of Darla setting up a scapegoat for herself. I saw this post a little while ago and I wonder if this is her setting up a scapegoat for a cronny.

Luigi, I am assuming you MUST post a link every post?

and hat do you mean by 'Must be Fake?'

Its a general thought I have. I also would like some time to get a look at what strapado has been saying since her early let's lynch the silly thing makes me wonder about her and her recent comments. I am at work right now so doing deep analysis on a player is not easy, but I'd like to check a couple of theorys I have in my head out if you guys would be willing to give me the time. There are also some others besides muerto that have been relativly quiet who's views should be seen and heard as Darla is lynched.

SpyreX, I apreciate you getting scum, but as a general comment it is best to get someone lynched in other ways then claiming your role or any actions you could possess. Getting someone lynched for having a BS restriction like I believe she was trying to pull off is better than exposing yourself to scum targetting. Just a general lesson, I thought I'd bring up.

[Muerrto]

Popping in to say hey and I'll post either tonight or sunday(moving tomorrow).

*exits stage right doing his best silly walk*

[Mirth]

Farside: I don't know who I think is lying. I want to hear more from Darla. She has been pretty consistent. Almost all of her posts have a French insult in them...and it's a kind of too obvious role to fake...(if I were fake claiming, I'd go for something obscure, not iconic...)

[PokerFace]

I believe SryeX over Darla in case you haven't guess but seeing darla's side of the story would also be interesting considering what mirth said. either way should we lynch the wrong, getting the right one the next day is an obvious course of action. The risk that is entailed there is why I believe SpyreX over Darla. I don't see scum SpyreX or any scum for that manor willing counterclaiming someone like that. knowing they will get lynched the next day.

[strappado]

apologies - this is my first theme game so forgive me the lameness but...
Is it possible for two players to have the same role?

[Mirth]

apologies - this is my first theme game so forgive me the lameness but...
Is it possible for two players to have the same role?

This is actually another thing I am considering. There were 4 or 5 frenchmen in the film. Only one of them was really vocal though, so I don't know how much to consider this.

[Mirth]

EBWOP: another possibility. What if both Spyrex and Darla are scum? One dead as scum confirms the other.

[PokerFace]

apologies - this is my first theme game so forgive me the lameness but...
Is it possible for two players to have the same role?

Hi, I play alot of theme games. Its possible players can have the same powers. I have seen theme games that have multiple cops and multiple vanillas and multiple vigs for that matter.

BUT I have never seen a theme game where 2 people claim to be the same character or to have the same name and they both end up being town

.

[PokerFace]

EBWOP: another possibility. What if both Spyrex and Darla are scum? One dead as scum confirms the other.

This is something we should keep in mind. Scum rarely do that especially since Spyre just said scum don't have safe claims (Which I don't see scum willingly admitting to ever), but I can link a game where Tarhalindur counterclaimed his scumbuddy for that exact purpose.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5314

[strappado]

hrmm...well now I'm not as sure. I think she's a buncha votes away from a lynch though, so I'll leave my vote for now.

[Mirth]

We actually don't know if scum don't have safeclaims. In Mini 566, Thesp didn't use his safeclaim because he wasn't sure how safe it actually was. So even if scum have safe claims, they can always choose to attempt another claim

[strappado]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say a safeclaim is a role that the mod gives the scum as a non-scum claim they can make, and it's safe because nobody else has it? Or is it safe because it's actually in the game?

[PokerFace]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say a safeclaim is a role that the mod gives the scum as a non-scum claim they can make, and it's safe because nobody else has it?

Or is it safe because it's actually in the game?

The first part is correct.

[Lord Gurgi]

Traditionally it is safe as no one else has it. I am more inclined to lynch DBE than Spyrex because he would have to be pretty thick to counter-claim something he isn't.

[strappado]

so...if DBE's was a "safeclaim" that the mod gave her, then Spryex wouldn't be it as well, right?
::confusion::

[Lord Gurgi]

Albatross!

Well that certainly was a waste of my free post.

Albatross!

[Mirth]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say a safeclaim is a role that the mod gives the scum as a non-scum claim they can make, and it's safe because nobody else has it? Or is it safe because it's actually in the game?

It's safe because no one has the role. But there may be complications. In the example I cited, Thesp didn't use it because his safeclaim (Green Lantern) was under mind control from his actual role. He did not know how obvious his real role would be to determine from his safe claim. I used my safeclaim in that game just fine, though my safe claim was in the same circumstances. Also, in that case, the PMs didn't make it 100% explicit that our safe claims were totally safe. So I'm not assuming anything about safe claims yet until either Darla or Spyrex is dead.

[strappado]

so Darla could be scum with a different safeclaim that she didn't want to use... but what are the odds that she'd come up with a role that was actually in this game? There are a ton of different char's in the circus and only a handful of us.
Maybe they both are?

ugh...

unvote: DBE

for now. I need to think about this one some more and I'd like to hear from her.