Jack of All Trades Mafia -- OVER!

[Coron]

vote: MMofD

[Coron]

Last names correspond to the Alphabet... anyone think the Vowels are Mafia? Y could be the Serial Killer.

random vote: BabyJesus (Jack Yates)

for obviously being the Serial Killer.

pretty sure I'm not mafia.

[Coron]

I'm Mr. E.

[Coron]

We've gone over this pooky, I'm not scum so that ruins the whole thing.

[Coron]

[quote="Our Illustrious Moderator aka Yaw aka "Jack Daniels"]I think I'll crawl into a hole now.

He even admitts that he's going into hiding in fear of the Wine Mafia!

in fact that probablity it! the WINE mafia!

I say we nail "E" first. Being the most common letter and what not, I'm jealous.[/quote]
I'd rather not, this seems to me a rather bad plan.

[Coron]

Nice, BJ.

[Coron]

Yellow card means that if you get another yellow you get kicked out and can't be replaced, also you can't play in the next game your team plays.

*from the US*

[Coron]

in fact, why is my man Jack Daniels not at this meeting?

I missed an obvious pun? Damn.

It's alright, pooky is a jack of all trades, master of pun.

[Coron]

Why? because you're mafia and the letters ARE linked?

[Coron]

unvote vote: spamwise

[Coron]

unvote vote: spamwise

[Coron]

Why not vote spamwise?

[Coron]

why don't we go with a spamwise lynch plz. k thnx.

[Coron]

why don't we go with a spamwise lynch plz. k thnx.

skimmer, we are lynching Bogre

spamwise is the obv scum, clearly you are the skimmer.

[Coron]

Other than the fact that Spamwise is obv scum?

[Coron]

Spamwise is obv the scum.

[Coron]

I'm here. Just waiting for Spamwise to get pwned.

Seriously guys.

[Coron]

fos: Zu_faul

contribute or die.

[Coron]

I'm gonna be gone for a week but I may drop in randomly.

[Coron]

uh... yeah it does.

*smacks MC*

There are 3 levels

NAMES, offices(roles), and alignments all determined seperately as I understand it.

[Coron]

MC quit being a frickin moron. It is the items in the office that allow him to do things at night(or perhaps during the day?) not the skills that he may have.

[Coron]

Hi, my name is Coron. I'm a megalurker. With your help I think I can change.

Read: sometime tonight expect something of substance.

[Coron]

Vote: MoS

FoS: Ibby, Mathcam

Bagged 3 scum for the price of 1.

[Coron]

Uraj, you should know better, I ain't PJ or glork or Yaw or anything like that.

I post like this except when someone is being really dumb.

I'd like to point out that recently in many of my games I've been lurking a bit, or a lot as the case may be even if this is probably the worst example.

I like how uraj responds when I impicate me some scum.

Minor FoS: uraj

You've played with me before.

[Coron]

*thwaps Yos*
I often have short posts. Recently I've been busy so have lurked in quite a few games.

Also, I love how I get "lurker pressure" after I STOP LURKING.

[Coron]

"Second Reaction: This is a post of substance? This is "Hey who killed the pro-town yesterday? They must be scum." That's pretty much as simple as it gets. It doesen't even acknowledge the fact that there was a very good reason for lynching BJ. Hell. . .it doesen't even say anything at all. It's completely noncomittal."

This is pretty much this is a stupid reaction. unless we had 5 alive yesterday I MUST have had a couple other criteria am I right? In fact before I read through to that point in the game I had a good feeling mathcam was scum. On the other's I don't remember exactly.

And no, there wasn't a good reason for lynching BJ. There really wasn't.

If you call that post noncommital I do not know what you're smoking. I pretty much committed to saying those three are scum(at least my top 3 suspects atm).

/me shakes head.
The more I read that post the less it makes any sense.

[Coron]

Could you please be more specific on the reasons why BJ was lynched.

Thanks
-Coron

[Coron]

So as far as I can tell what you were saying is that his role isn't ACTUALLY mason, which it really what his role was.

I don't really get your arguement. If you could explain it better please.

Thanks a lot
-Coron.

[Coron]

Mathy.

You too if you want.

[Coron]

Alright, we just went back to the: not a good reason stage.

Outing more masons than will confirm you masons=bad idea unless there is only one known mason alive.

I'm fine with his play.

[Coron]

MoS stole my line.

Also I sware I was supicious of him before I realized he replaced my top day 1 suspect.

And about the "on purpose or accident" thing, that's a difficult question: If you mean that I did it because I didn't feel like talking, hell no. If you mean I was like "crap I'm way behind in that game I need to catch up...... next tuesday" for like a month then yes(note: actually tuesday is a bad night for me but you get the point). At no point did I actually manage to forget being in this game, so if it really came down to it, probably the proper category is "On purpose".

oh and I'll

unvote vote: Mathcam

[Coron]

Ibby's actions yesterday seemed to be that of "I'm pissed off I have to talk to someone other than my scum group." IMHO.

Yeah, turns out protown players sometimes claim, scummy. Mathcam, aren't you usually less suspicious of people who have a PROVEN role(other than scum). Sure a roleblocker could be a scum RB, but seriously man, seriously. By any right Ibby SHOULD have been less suspicious of him. See first line.

Can ibby talk to Inhim or was he the middle man between you two?

And it seems perfectly reasonable to me that you could "Concoct" this reasoning.

[Coron]

Names, alignments, and roles are all assigned randomly and independently.

Your stuck in a mindset that doesn't encompass the split role-motive theme of this game, and your role-blocker example exemplfies this. Everyone's been assigned a motive and a role

independently.

A scum role-blocker is just as likely as a scum cop, a scum doc, or a scum vanilla townie, and there's no "I don't think Yaw would do that" involved. They were assigned at

random.

So the fact that BJ's

role

is proveable has absolutely no bearing on whether or not he's town or not. That he was deliberately misleading about this role

does

have a bearing, and that was the basis for my desire for his lynch.

Cam

Good Point.

Still think you're scum.

Still thought you were scum since apparently, before you replaced, but definately before reading the whole BJ thing anyway.

[Coron]

I'm glad MoS can read Coron writing.

The question was slightly poorly worded, because I went from asking the world to refering to a "you". Yes poorly worded. Yes I read the thread. I did not see where in the thread this was clarified if it

[Coron]

Wait Wait Wait. WTF? On the front page it says mathcam used to be jack johnson.

??

???

Confused.

Also I thought you said you could never talk to Mathcam and so he WOULDN'T know the mechanic for sure. Pretty much I'm confused as to why you think it was "pretty clear from that"

[Coron]

The only thing I can think of is that Jack Johnson, Jack Ryan, and Jack Yates all have the ability to communicate at night.

Thought it was pretty clear from that.

and you guys don't find this "the only thing I can think of" comment at all suspicious as he SHOULD very well know?

[Coron]

I found it suspicious that mathcam referred to the Jack names of the office instead of naming the players involved. IE: Me, BJ, and InHim.

How is that suspicious?

[Coron]

Heh, I'm gone for 2 days and you guys decide to explode.

I think it's funny that people accused me of "just picking people on the BJ wagon" but now 2 of the 3 people I accused are under serious suspicion.

I guess I'm just awesome like that.

unvote vote: Ibby

The explosion a page or however much back with much cursing had the opposite reaction from me as from mathcam. To me it looked like frustrated scum.

[Coron]

I can't wait until I can prove Coron wrong about me yet again. And here I used to believe he could read me fairly well.

Dude, you totally fail.

Eh, even if I'm getting worse on that it's one of those "either you are getting more consistant or I'm getting worse" things.

I could still believe that ibby is town, but for now I feel that ibby is the best vote.

[Coron]

You could you know... answer it.

[Coron]

Son of a ...
I'm an idiot.
You'd think I'd have learned the first time that closing out of opera while I'm in the middle of a post is a BAD idea... *sigh*

UNVOTE

overview of who's scummy and who's not.
Scummy: Oberon, mathcam, Uraj, armlx
Middle: Spectrumvoid, fuldu, MMoD, MBL, Yos
Not: Ibby, pooky, Coron, STD, H_P, MoS

I had a little reasoning for the people I put as scummy before, I'll try to remember.

Mathcam- recently has faded to the background, has keep posting but nothing of consequence for almost as long as I have been not posting.
Oberon- fairly reasonable early, later actions are suspicious.
Uraj- I don't remember exactly
Armlx- bigger lurker than me, only contribution was to say something that was later proven just wrong.

[Coron]

I don't remember exactly what happened but I remember a lot of people were voting Mathcam and he was very suspicious.

Vote: Mathcam

[Coron]

Yes I'm jumping on ANOTHER bandwagon without caring at all who it is and without giving reasons because other people find this person suspicious and just following other people. Go view all posts by me and tell me 2 reasons why this statement is completely retarded please. Trust me it's not hard. I've already told myself 4, I'm not asking NEARLY as much of you as I am of me.

[Coron]

Yes I'm jumping on

ANOTHER

bandwagon

without caring at all who it is

and

without giving reasons

because other people find this person suspicious and

just following other people

.

All 4 bolded areas I have issues with actually being consistant with what actually happened.

Note my sarcastic remark was responding to both Mathcam and spectrum's posts. Which both accuse me of stupid things, clearly without reading anything more than a few days old.

[Coron]

If we're ignoring everthing before page 30 then I never lurked.

[Coron]

BTW there is a difference between fading to the background and lurking.

[Coron]

Fading to the background means your still around but you aren't really doing anything to be looked at much.

Lurking is where you don't show up and often get looked at a lot more.

Comprendes tu?

[Coron]

People were accusing me of being a hypocrit.

Eh, sure, sometimes I am, but in this case it is not hypocracy.

[Coron]

Yes. I have totally been indifferent this whole game. I'm perhaps the person in this game that has bandwagoned the LEAST. Even if you only count since I stopped lurking, my votes have not been all over the place on big bandwagons like someone who was indifferent. I have been posting and "bickering details", when I was responding directly to things that were posted for me to answer. It seems to me that this "bickering" isn't really a sign of indifference at least not by my definition.

If you meant some other adjective then say so if you still think I've been indifferent, then you're being quite silly.

[Coron]

I already have.

[Coron]

Prove it by doing something.

[Coron]

you do realize how little that means at this point? I suppose it means something still but very far from decisive evidence of anything.

[Coron]

I have a plan.

Let's all just follow me and pray I hit scum with my vote.

no thank you.

[Coron]

Yes, I remember how to play mafia. Right now we lynch mathcam.

[Coron]

I think that someone should be you, mathcam, however you haven't really been too cooperative with that, not voting yourself and all.

[Coron]

request: we make sure we have everyone here or replacements found first

[Coron]

Seriously guys, some more people need to vote mathcam asap.

[Coron]

I was like the one person that responded to it, which it does seem kind of odd.

[Coron]

it's not definative. mathcam didn't have to be the one to make the kill, neither did MBL.

Pretty much what I said.

I see almost everyone has ignored my 2nd last post. I know it doesn't mean much, but doesn't it mean something?

It dosn't really mean much at this point, unfortunatly. We've only had one dead scum, so there's probably at least 3-4 more of them left. Which means that if you did block a mafia member one of those nights, the odds are something like 3 to 1 that you wouldn't stop the kill anyway. This is even more true in Mathcam's case, as the mafia usually isn't going to have someone do the kill who's both high-profile and under some suspicion, like Mathcam was, as those are the kinds of people who are most likely to get blocked or tracked. So I don't really think that's any kind of significant evidence in Mathcam's favor.

I suppose that's right, I forgot we started with a day before the first real scum kill.

[Coron]

this does seem to be the case, can we lynch this dude already?

[Coron]

waffle waffle.

[Coron]

I assume from this post that you don't have any information relevent to the town that would be lost after your death.

[Coron]

so, you could switch the second one back into use after we remove the scum from it if you wanted to.

[Coron]

if both MMoD and you are roleswitchers he can switch you back in, right?

[Coron]

EDBWODP:

On second thought that makes sense considering there was a role-switch on the night I missed my nightchoice (and the fact that he can prove he also has the ability).

This counterclaim was definately a bad move on my part.

He answered that long ago.

[Coron]

Seriously guys we have enough on mathcam for a lynch, the lack of a lynch by this point might even been seen as further evidence of him being scum(though weak evidence admittedly).

We are not going to get a better lynch than this unless a doc claims a guilty.

[Coron]

*Cop

[Coron]

Night 1:
1 death
Mathcam is blocked
Night 2:
3 deaths
Mathcam is not blocked

Unless you wish me to believe that there are more protown nightkillers than scum, we are missing at least one Night 1 death. There are of course many reasons to miss a death at night, but this increases the likelyhood dramatically of mathcam being scum.

Also, I believe I have also presented before and many other people have presented before arguements that seem to indicate Mathcam's scumminess.

[Coron]

Fuldu, because I totally did not post these?

The only thing I can think of is that Jack Johnson, Jack Ryan, and Jack Yates all have the ability to communicate at night.

Thought it was pretty clear from that.

and you guys don't find this "the only thing I can think of" comment at all suspicious as he SHOULD very well know?

Mathcam- recently has faded to the background, has keep posting but nothing of consequence for almost as long as I have been not posting.

Also, I totally didn't present a bunch of stuff in the stuff that disappeared, but I don't expect you to remember that or count that or anything.

[Coron]

I didn't see any twilight rules on the front page so I assume it's ok to post. How the heck is post 1409 at 10:56 and post 1408 an hour and a half LATER? That makes little sense and it appears has perhaps causes issues with inadvertant lynching? I'm not exactly sure what is going on there.

Also, definately a huge FoS to Fuldu for that most recent post. Dropping el hammer suddenly*, and trying to potentially set up a second lynch for tomorrow. So, fuldu is probably from the scum group, while mathcam is or from another scum group, we'll make sure to get him tomorrow.

* as discussed above I'm not sure what exactly is going on with this.

[Coron]

Oh nm>.< wasn't thinking 12:21 AM was just after midnight.

Silly me.

[Coron]

I will neither confirm nor deny.

[Coron]

I said WILL, if I could confirm that I was not roleblocked I would do so. If I know I was roleblocked or it is unknown I don't really feel it is nessisary to give out this info.

[Coron]

Perfectly reasonable choice honestly, but if I were scum in a scum group would I make a kill right after pushing through a lynch.

Wait. Why am I arguing that I'm not confirmed. I'm totally confirmed, not scum and all kinds of happy things.

[Coron]

That might mean something if you weren't already voting me.

Also, everyone always thinks I act likme a cop(because I do), it's just the way I play mafia. Fuldu's last post though reeks heavily of scum, and I sure hope that's not just OMGUS.

[Coron]

Vote: Fuldu

[Coron]

It shouldn't be lynch or lose.

[Coron]

outsbrilliant. I'm still not scum.

[Coron]

did I ever mention how:
A) absolute LAL is a retarded strategy
B) You're totally scum
C) The only thing I can see that he might have really lied about is wanting his old office back.

The rest was merely withholding information, and I do that one all the frickin time. If I'm cop, I don't go day one and tell everyone that.

[Coron]

It doesen't matter though. My vote won't be changing for the rest of the day. LAL is absolute.

LAL

Vote: Uraj

[Coron]

Which is why we are lynching you for lying.

[Coron]

Except I didn't lie. I changed my mind based on a valid point. Calling that a lie is pure BS.

A lie is a lie is a lie.
The whole point of LAL is so you don't post stuff you don't mean(or at least can't claim you didn't mean later). You clearly didn't mean there was no way you were moving your vote. What you did is much more clearly a LAL situation than what you voted on. Though honestly LAL is not why I'm voting you, it's mostly just to point out your hypocracy.

[Coron]

You do see the third definition right?

[Coron]

You made a statement that you knew was false, or at least if you weren't a complete 'tard you knew was wrong. You said

NOTHING

would change your vote, even if he was confirmed innocent, or if you were just crazy and he didn't actually lie(which happened), etc etc.

[Coron]

You can change my office any time. *eyebrows*

[Coron]

Incorrect, StD, we do still have a role switcher.

[Coron]

seconded

[Coron]

It's a nice theory, but as always I'm skeptical. Who if any was moved out of their previous offices the night before? And it still could just be the fact that our power roles are accurate.

[Coron]

gone until sunday for robotics competition

[Coron]

angry unibrow? Cool.

[Coron]

Away.

As requested by prod pm.

[Coron]

I unfortunately have limited access until Monday.

[Coron]

Hi.

[Coron]

Any time.

[Coron]

I'm not sure so much about this game... I dunno, I guess I kinda lost interest.

[Coron]

I think that changing offices could help town.

[Coron]

Well, if town players have a plain townie role you should change them. For instance, me.

[Coron]

Any reason for that?

Just want to make sure we get the plans straight before night?

[Coron]

Coron:

Vote: MoS

FoS: Ibby, Mathcam

Bagged 3 scum for the price of 1.

Do you still think myself or Thok (replacing Ibby) are scum?

dunno.

I feel like I've referenced this before, but you said this in thread a while back:

overview of who's scummy and who's not.
Scummy: Oberon, mathcam, Uraj, armlx
Middle: Spectrumvoid, fuldu, MMoD, MBL, Yos
Not: Ibby, pooky, Coron, STD, H_P, MoS

What caused you to move Ibby and myself to the "not scummy" list, without giving any reason to stop suspecting us?

How do you feel about this list now? Of your "scummy" list, all four were protown. One of your "middle" list was scum, and all of your "not scummy" list is still living save Pooky. ThAdmiral and SV are the two remaining people from your "middle" list.

I had a gut instinct that you guys might be scum, then later you acted in a way that made me suspect that you were town clearly, probably another gut reaction. I'm allowed to change my mind right?
Recently I from reading the thread I would say ThAdmiral is scummy.

I don't remember exactly what happened but I remember a lot of people were voting Mathcam and he was very suspicious.

Vote: Mathcam

Why did you make this post? Looking back on your own posts, you gave reasons to vote Mathcam yourself...

Yes, this was just after we lost a few pages of game in which mathcam did suspicious things, and where I voted mathcam.

Who do you think is scum right now? Do you approve of the Quagmire-wagon?

I dunno how I feel about the quag wagon, but it seems to me either way ThAdmiral is probably scum.

[Coron]

Quite simply if quagmire was town and there was a scum yet to vote they would just do it, right? (This would mean mafia win I believe)
That is unless all three mafia have already voted him, but I find that hard to believe since two of the people I most trust to be town (MoS, and STD) are ones voting.

How do we know we have 3 scum left? Do you know something we don't?

More likely is that quagmire is scum and the people not voting yet are his scum-partners (except me, cause I'm ready to drop the hammer).

you act like jumping on a bandwagon of someone who it looks like is going to die anyway makes you less likely to be scum. This is a reasonably common thing to be done by scum.

[Coron]

vote: ThAdmiral

[Coron]

Well I'm fairly suspicious of coron for fairly obvious reasons. I'm going to go do a read through to a) see if I can dig up any more dirt on coron and b) to look at how players interacted with quagmire through the game.

because you think that is your best bet to get a lynch because I'm already on to you?

Scum.

[Coron]

Save the dragons: if you believe me and coron are scum then you have nothing to lose by putting your money where your mouth is and voting him as well. Just saying.

No.

:goodposting:
ThAdmiral, there is no reason to rush through the day, that is unless you're scum trying to minimize the information town has.

[Coron]

Coron: Why aren't you voting ThAdmiral?

I see no reason to rush the day this close to endgame.

[Coron]

Coron: Can you respond to this post:

He didn't vote for quagmire yesterday, and he seems to be going after me with little or no evidence. It seems like he's just picked the person who replaced the previous lurking/inactive guy because he's a soft target.

Yes

[Coron]

I didn't vote quagmire yesterday because ThAdmiral was/is ridiculous scummy. I'm going after him because he's ridiculous scummy, and I'm going after him because he's ridiculous scummy.

Got it?

[Coron]

Why do you find him ridiculously scummy?

You mean you don't

[Coron]

I want to vote him, but that would be the end of day, and potentially could lose the game. If anyone has anymore comments post them now. I plan to vote him in a day or two.

Turns into almost 2 weeks.

@MoS: Logically I think quagmire's scumbuddy's are coron and thok, since they haven't voted him yet.

this is ridiculous.

Quite simply if quagmire was town and there was a scum yet to vote they would just do it, right? (This would mean mafia win I believe)
That is unless all three mafia have already voted him, but I find that hard to believe since two of the people I most trust to be town (MoS, and STD) are ones voting.

I've explained why this is scummy.

It is possible, however, that a mafiate jumped on the wagon thinking it was a lost cause, ready to throw their partner under a bus to look more pro-town. If this is the case I believe SV is scum and thok is town.

Yup, sounds like you.

[Coron]

Ok, SV might have a few more scum tells on him, however look at it this way, what we want here is a density of scummy actions not a total of scummy actions, as ThAdmiral has many fewer posts in which to be scummy, and a lot of scumminess in these posts, he has an extremely high scuminess density.

Also, now MoS is acting shady again -_-

[Coron]

Indeed.

it would help if you actually said anything.

[Coron]

See it annoys me to see you posting every other post, with no content asking other people to post, I could do that but it's pointless so I don't.

As far as I can tell you're just spamming your post count up, and honestly it's obnoxious.

[Coron]

My point MoS, is that if you're not doing anything how does it make sense to say "I can't do this alone"? The last content at that point was actually not by you at all.

In fact on this page I think you are maybe the third to top in total content, maybe 4th or 5th depending on spectrum and whether you count the mod.

[Coron]

My point MoS, is that if you're not doing anything how does it make sense to say "I can't do this alone"? The last content at that point was actually not by you at all.

In fact on this page I think you are maybe the third to top in total content, maybe 4th or 5th depending on spectrum and whether you count the mod.

[Coron]

My point MoS, is that if you're not doing anything how does it make sense to say "I can't do this alone"? The last content at that point was actually not by you at all.

In fact on this page I think you are maybe the third to top in total content, maybe 4th or 5th depending on spectrum and whether you count the mod.

You're avoiding the question.

Right now in the game I'm posting when and no more than when I have something to say. This is what I think is best for a game to continue running smoothly. Not like you who posts 7-10 times as many times as you actually have something to say.

[Coron]

Does anyone find him scummy? Am I forgetting an investigation/obvious reason for him to be pro-town?

I do sometimes and not that I know of.

Coron, are you considering anyone else beside ThAdmiral?

I'm still considering all options.

[Coron]

Do we have anything further to discuss or should we start placing votes?

[Coron]

dependant on future actions I would be willing to vote anyone, but I've made it clear who I think is scum I believe.

ps. ThAdmiral

[Coron]

Wait a second I pushed and voted for quagmire and coron didn't.
I know that's not proof, I know I could have been bussing, but surely it's got to count for something.
Just why do you think I'm scummier than coron?

the way you did that was scummy, even if you did pressure him.

[Coron]

I've posted 9 times(after this one) in 15 days since the comment compared to 9 in the 15 days directly preceding. Lol I really have jumped up my activity haven't I -_-

[Coron]

Hi, I still think there is a high probability that ThAdmiral is scum. MoS however has had some shadier moments this game.

This is sort of wifom, but even so is mildly valid, but I think it would be more likely that ThAdmiral would kill STD than MoS, as it appeared that STD was fairly convinced of MoS's innocence, and probably MoS could have convinced him to vote the survivor of ThAdmiral/me.

However if ThAdmiral was scum he probably wouldn't want to kill me as I was under the 3rd most suspicion yesterday(after him and SV). If he killed me both of MoS and StD would probably have been in agreement to lynch him, StD, as I recall was at least mildly convinced of my innocence yesterday, and I wasn't particularly suspicious of him, thus leaving both of us alive probably would have also been a death sentence. From his point of view killing StD would probably give him the best chance to win, while from MoS's perspective it might have been ok to kill me instead(as I was somewhat suspicious of him, and he could probably convince StD to lynch ThAdmiral).

Also about me sitting out the last couple days, it's not as though I didn't voice any opinions, you're only saying that because I've been cautious with my votes.

[Coron]

There's no way to prove this, obviously, but I would have killed mos if I was scum.

mind explaining why?

[Coron]

if you're scum at this point, you're likely going to hit town either way. Why worry about whether you think he is scum?

That doesn't make much sense ThAdmiral.

[Coron]

or perhaps you're just making up horseshit and trying to make it sound good.

I find this likely.

[Coron]

Who do you think is scum right now? Do you approve of the Quagmire-wagon?

I dunno how I feel about the quag wagon, but it seems to me either way ThAdmiral is probably scum.

Why was ThAdmiral scum whether or not Quag was scum? Obviously, Quag WAS scum, but if he'd been town, what made you think ThAdmiral would still be scum?

Very few/none of the tells at that point against ThAdmiral had anything to Quagmire being scum.

I didn't vote quagmire yesterday because ThAdmiral was/is ridiculous scummy. I'm going after him because he's ridiculous scummy, and I'm going after him because he's ridiculous scummy.

Got it?

Point against. Coron kept saying that ThAdmiral was ridiculously scummy and couldn't understand why people didn't agree, but he never explained *why* ThAdmiral was scummy up to that point.

You know how I roll.


Oh by the way, I completely understand what you're saying about the scummy density. and I can refute my own arguement, it is in fact not *solely* dependant on density. After all if someone posts something scummy in his only post, as compared to someone who has done something at least mildly scummy in each one of is 50 posts. Maybe the scummy action by the 1st one was just a fluke, but with the 50 posts to view, well, his 50 scummy actions are much less likely to be a fluke.

[Coron]

gah, forgot to address the last point, and I got distracted. I agree that the Coron lurking thing is bad, but he was inactive for a long time and was really lazy. However, that point is probably the only major thing that's keeping me from voting ThAdmiral (other than waiting for everyone to present cases).

This is in fact the case. I'm not sure if you think lurking is scummy, but it's something that happens to me in a good number of games, as either town or scum when for whatever reason I can't access MS for a while.

[Coron]

Bump yourself.

[Coron]

That completely depends on circumstances imho.

[Coron]

We're aproaching our deadline and the end of what we have to discuss. Personally I think I'm going to place my vote and hope for the best.

Vote: ThAdmiral

[Coron]

Gah!