Jack of All Trades Mafia -- OVER!

[Uraj45]

StD, you need to read today's post because every single one of those questions has been completely covered within the day.

[Yaw]

Vote Count:

Uraj45 (4): spectrumvoid, pablito, Save The Dragons, Coron
pablito (1): Uraj45

Not Voting: Quagmire, Thok, Mastermind of Sin, mystery meat of doom, PookyTheMagicalBear

6 to lynch

[spectrumvoid]

Last night, I blocked coron. The choice was processed by the mod. The mod sent me a pm before day opened telling me I changed offices.

I quoted this bit before directly after STD's post. Did this get deleted by the mod because it violated some rule? I'd rather know if this disappeared, or if it got deleted.

[Yaw]

I haven't touched the thread to delete stuff this entire game. If there's an issue with posts, it's likely board-related.

[spectrumvoid]

Ok. Thanks. I was wondering because I had this problem elsewhere some time ago, but not recently.

[Mastermind of Sin]

The following is a list of relevant quotes to the Fuldu wagon. Feel free to skip over them if you've been reading the thread.

unvote, vote Fuldu

to force him to post. I've seen him in this forum, and this is the only game he can be looking at.

One of the reasons that I was trying to push Coron yesterday for his reasons for voting mathcam was that while his actions seemed to suggest "I know something you don't" (e.g. cop investigation), his approach seemed to be drawing far more attention to him than a cop normally would. But since he was never able to articulate an argument, I came to assume that he must just have been doing a bad job of hiding it and that he really did know something. Otherwise, it's hard to justify his profound insistence on lynching mathcam on the basis of nothing whatsoever. Now that we know mathcam wasn't scum, and that Coron therefore didn't know anything of value, I'm inclined to attribute it to scummy behavior.

vote: Coron

I'll bite. I also thought he was the most scummy, hence my block.

vote: Coron

No, I see it too; Fuldu basically admitted that he was trying to get you to out yourself yesterday (under the false impression that you were a cop).

Oops.

unvote, vote Fuldu

Trying to get a cop = scummy.

I'm about 33-33-33 for voting Fuldu, Spectrumvoid, Uraj45.

Yay! I finished my read.

I like the Fulduwagon.

Unvote, vote: Fuldu

I very much like my vote on Quagmire/Harry Potter, I think that's something to look back at tomorrow.

unvote: Quagmire

I think that right now, we have to lynch someone. There's no way around it. We squandered the day away and now we have to deal.

vote: Fuldu

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Simply, I'm voting for the top vote-getter and it's not the best way of doing things. I may move if someone I find scummier gets votes as well

To respond to SV:

If I'm not supposed to block the person who I think is most scummy, wouldn't that be something like random blocking then?

I think you just came up with that question yourself independently right now. But I would hope it's in response to:

So why'd you roleblock him [mathcam] then? My read on you was that you were kinda trusting mathcam.

Because when I re-read the thread, I got the sense that you complimented mathcam and thus was finding him pro-town. So then it begs the question for tomorrow about why you bothered to block mathcam. I want to see where your thoughts changed. But right now, it pretty much seems like SV is blocking reasonably and I don't see enough to convict SV now.

So my options are voting for spectrumvoid, who I largely believe is pro-town, or getting deadline lynched myself? Frankly, I'd rather see STD lynched, since his posts against spectrum have been pretty much unjustified, and spectrum was one of the few people he felt he had reason to trust the last time he went through the players and indicated his views. Or Coron, for reasons I've already stated and that have apparently gotten me in trouble.

unvote: Coron; vote: Save The Dragons

unvote, vote: Save the Dragons

I like this vote very much. Unlike Uraj, it was StD's addition to the SV wagon that alarmed me.

Vote: Fuldu

I will switch to Fuldu if no one's going to be jumping over to StD.

unvote, vote: Fuldu

Unvote, Vote: Fuldu

acceptable alternative

I actually did voice concern about spectrumvoid today. I don't think she's pro-town, either an anti-town RB or just flat out lying.

The wagon, while seemingly justified, didn't really have a lot of meat to it. Fuldu made about two relevant posts that made him seem pretty scummy, but most of the votes on him weren't accompanied by any reasoning that pointed this out. I'm quite interested by Pablito's flipflopping and willingness to follow Fuldu as he tried to get STD lynched, then jumping back at the end to get on the Fuldu-wagon. I think it's also possible that SV could be connected to Fuldu, although her actions are plausible as protown that was mislead. I don't think STD is one of Fuldu's scumbuddies, since he was Fuldu's attempted scapegoat. However, if Fuldu was convinced he would die anyways, I suppose he might've attacked a buddy to throw us off, so I'm not very sure about it. I'm more sure of Thok's innocence, or at least that he wasn't Fuldu's scumbuddy. He brought attention to Fuldu unnecessarily, so I don't think they were working together.

Vote: Pablito

[Save The Dragons]

StD, you need to read today's post because every single one of those questions has been completely covered within the day.

My post actually said that. So thank you. You're helpful.

But I will look through today and find it. I was wondering if someone knew them off the top of thier head.

$600 to dragon preservation!

[pablito]

MoS that's a reasonable vote if you're looking at yesterday's wagons only.

But is there ANYTHING that anyone has about the game or are we just going to let this lag into deadline again?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Re: Pablito

Hey, MOS, tell us what you thought of the Fuldu wagon yesterday.

[Yaw]

Don't make me deadline you. Pick up the pace.

[Save The Dragons]

I'm killing Uraj as fast as I can.

$700 for dragon preservation!

[Coron]

seconded

[pablito]

Who else wants to vote Uraj then?

[Thok]

I've been neglecting this game (along with like 7 other games I'm in.)

Uraj, could you explain your two posts where you've unvote and then voted mathcam (where you were trying to figure out if something weird was going on)?

[Uraj45]

It's been a long time and I can't say what my exact thoughts were at the time. . .but it had to do with some exact wording concerns. Spectrumvoid had been claimed to be semi-confirmed pro-town at the time, and there was another statement pinning her as a townie. There was a potential conflict there in her being semi-confirmed townie while claiming role blocker. I had to read back to some of the prior posts to figure out what the deal was and the semi-confirmation wasn't based on townieship nor at any point had she said she was a townie. So the claim was potentially legitimate and I could be comfortable with the vote.

. . .I hope that makes sense.

[Quagmire]

Who else wants to vote Uraj then?

since i've forgotten this already, and i'm too lazy to go back and look at the pages, could someone please sum up why uraj is scum?

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm interested in hearing Pablito's explanation for his actions yesterday.

[pablito]

I felt Quag was scum, but I'm not no-lynching, so I joined the best bandwagon, but I've had lingering doubts about StD and he was voting SV who I still believe to be relatlively pro-town, so I moved to StD as a compromise vote (I promised to move my vote if someone scummier got a vote as well), I saw there was no momentum, so I went back to the biggest wagon, because I'm not no-lynching.

I think my reasons while I was voting were very clear, so yeah. Is there much more you want to know or are you just asking me these questions as part of a show so you can make yourself look more pro-town?

[Save The Dragons]

I'm voting Uraj because he quoted LAL in not a very oppurtune situation and posted a link to the wiki, which seems like a tactic to sway people towards his position. Like he was trying to use fact to justify doing something ridiculous.

[Save The Dragons]

I'm late for chem! And...

$900 for dragon preservation!

[pablito]

$1000 for dragon preservation!

I think Quagmire is a good wagon as well, but Uraj just doesn't feel pro-town. And he hasn't really tried to defend himself at the moment.

[Uraj45]

Again I will say to STD that I try to backup any of my arguments with proof whenever I can. A strong argument is backed with evidence and making a strong argument is a good idea no matter what side you're on. Figuring something out is useless if you can't

And he hasn't really tried to defend himself at the moment.

Against what? This?

I'm killing Uraj as fast as I can.

seconded

Who else wants to vote Uraj then?

Those aren't arguments, so there's nothing to defend against. With nothing new having been brought to the table I've had nothing new to say.

[Mastermind of Sin]

*sigh* can we lynch Pablito already?

[Mastermind of Sin]

lol jk, I'm satisfied with his response

unvote

[pablito]

...anyone care to chime in on who SV should roleblock tonight?