Jack of All Trades Mafia -- OVER!

[Coron]

Away.

As requested by prod pm.

[Yaw]

Smartass.

Vote Count:

Quagmire (1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin (1): Quagmire

Not Voting: Coron, Save The Dragons, mystery meat of doom, PookyTheMagicalBear, spectrumvoid, Thok

5 to lynch

[Quagmire]

I really think that we need some more participation/replacements and the deadline to be extended.

[Mastermind of Sin]

We need more participation if we're going to convince the mod to extend the deadline.

[Yaw]

Well, only two people have yet to pick up their prods, and those two are fairly reliable overall. So it isn't a matter of people needing replacement. It's a matter of people needing to get off their asses, which there's only so much I can help with.

Since it is the Easter weekend, and I expect that has a bit to do with this, I'm going to extend the deadline to

Friday, April 13

. Don't expect it to get moved or repealed again unless people start posting.

[Save The Dragons]

People Total: 25
People Living: 8
Scum Total: 4-6ish
Scum Found: 2 + 1 SK

6 scum impossible, 5 scum = lylo today, 4 = lylo tommorrow.

Coron -- Nothing seems out of the ordinary to me.
Quagmire (replacing Harry_Potter) -- Makes sense logically, but seems to be honest.
Thok (replacing ibaesha) -- Hmmm...
Mastermind of Sin -- Seems pro-town
mystery meat of doom -- I am on the fence with him.
PookyTheMagicalBear -- Hmmm...
spectrumvoid (replacing Shamrock) -- I had doubts in the past, not so much anymore...

I think MMod is likely, but I don't want to vote for anyone until I look back on a few players or time runs out (the latter of which is more likely to happen).

[Thok]

Thok (replacing ibaesha) -- Hmmm...

?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Are you saying that you think Thok who replaced Ibby who went after Fuldu(scum) very hard is actually scum who tried to throw her partner under the bus at a time that made no taouctical sense?(because I don't see Ibby as the type who'd throw under the bus, and the timing isn't right either)

fos STD

(i've been wondering why thok hasn't bit the dust after fuldu came up scum, I think scum forgetting he was as confirmed as it gets from d4 interaction would make more sense than him actually being scum which I think is very long shot)

[Coron]

I unfortunately have limited access until Monday.

[Mastermind of Sin]

How many people are we waiting on from Pooky's assignment?

[Thok]

I think close to everybody needs to go. I mean I haven't even done you yet. I think you, STD, and Pooky are the only people to go.

As for my earlier question-I can't see what benefit there is for you as town to suggest that there is a protown reason for what Pooky did, especially since I had already commented about that reason (I had said that using me as a sanity check this late in the game is dumb, unless you felt it important to defend Pooky. Given that Pooky falls into my collection of people that I have little to no read on, this makes me wonder why you would be confident enough in Pooky to do that.

Notice this isn't the first time this has come up; you defended Pooky earlier in the game also (from MBL, for example).

@Pooky-I would have strongly prefered you let STD react to my comment without you making a massive accusation on him.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if we weren't low on time, I would've

[Mastermind of Sin]

I think close to everybody needs to go. I mean I haven't even done you yet. I think you, STD, and Pooky are the only people to go.

As for my earlier question-I can't see what benefit there is for you as town to suggest that there is a protown reason for what Pooky did, especially since I had already commented about that reason (I had said that using me as a sanity check this late in the game is dumb, unless you felt it important to defend Pooky. Given that Pooky falls into my collection of people that I have little to no read on, this makes me wonder why you would be confident enough in Pooky to do that.

Notice this isn't the first time this has come up; you defended Pooky earlier in the game also (from MBL, for example).

@Pooky-I would have strongly prefered you let STD react to my comment without you making a massive accusation on him.

I didn't say his reasoning was necessarily protown, but it was what I would expect as a genuine answer. Whether he's scum or not, his role is separate, and if his answer didn't feel genuine to me, then that would be a point in favor of him being scum.

[Thok]

I think close to everybody needs to go. I mean I haven't even done you yet. I think you, STD, and Pooky are the only people to go.

As for my earlier question-I can't see what benefit there is for you as town to suggest that there is a protown reason for what Pooky did, especially since I had already commented about that reason (I had said that using me as a sanity check this late in the game is dumb, unless you felt it important to defend Pooky. Given that Pooky falls into my collection of people that I have little to no read on, this makes me wonder why you would be confident enough in Pooky to do that.

Notice this isn't the first time this has come up; you defended Pooky earlier in the game also (from MBL, for example).

@Pooky-I would have strongly prefered you let STD react to my comment without you making a massive accusation on him.

I didn't say his reasoning was necessarily protown, but it was what I would expect as a genuine answer. Whether he's scum or not, his role is separate, and if his answer didn't feel genuine to me, then that would be a point in favor of him being scum.

OK, replace protown in my arguement with "genuine"; my question still stands.

I'm not really asking whether or not Pooky's argument is valid/genuine/tangerine; I'm wondering why you would suggest that there could be a valid/genuine/tangerine argument in support of Pooky's decision. I'm trying to decide if you are scum who is either kissing up to Pookytown or defending Pookyscum.

[mystery meat of doom]

I'm in the middle of exams.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm not understanding you, Thok. Whether or not Pooky was right in the decision he made, that doesn't make it any less genuine. If I had been in Pooky's place, that's what I would've done, and that's the reason I would've done it. Therefore, if he gave the same reasoning, I can believe that he was genuine in that explanation. I don't see how you think this has any bearing on alignment, however. Both scum and town can tell the truth when it comes to their roles.

[spectrumvoid]

Pooky: If you think scum had forgotten that Thok is cleared, why did you deliberately alert scum to that fact?

[Thok]

I'm not understanding you, Thok. Whether or not Pooky was right in the decision he made, that doesn't make it any less genuine. If I had been in Pooky's place, that's what I would've done, and that's the reason I would've done it. Therefore, if he gave the same reasoning, I can believe that he was genuine in that explanation. I don't see how you think this has any bearing on alignment, however. Both scum and town can tell the truth when it comes to their roles.

I'M NOT USING THIS DISCUSSION AS A WAY TO ASSESS POOKY!!!!

I'M USING IT AS A WAY TO ASSESS YOU!

I want to know why you are letting Pooky know that there is some sort of "right answer" to my question.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Because at this point in the game, it's quite likely that catching scum is more important than keeping a cleared player safe.( I would expect 3 scum remaining, at the very least 2)

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm not understanding you, Thok. Whether or not Pooky was right in the decision he made, that doesn't make it any less genuine. If I had been in Pooky's place, that's what I would've done, and that's the reason I would've done it. Therefore, if he gave the same reasoning, I can believe that he was genuine in that explanation. I don't see how you think this has any bearing on alignment, however. Both scum and town can tell the truth when it comes to their roles.

I'M NOT USING THIS DISCUSSION AS A WAY TO ASSESS POOKY!!!!

I'M USING IT AS A WAY TO ASSESS YOU!

I want to know why you are letting Pooky know that there is some sort of "right answer" to my question.

I understand you're trying to assess me. What I'm trying to point out is that you were assuming that I was assessing Pooky in a positive way based on his response, when I did no such thing. Had he given another answer, I might have been able to use it to assess his guilt, but given the circumstances, it shows nothing one way or the other. You don't seem to be understanding that.

[Yaw]

*grumble*Stupid corrupted backup*grumble*

Ok, the deadline passed with no lynch, so we're technically in night. The final vote count was:

Vote Count

Quagmire (1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin (1): Quagmire

Not Voting: Coron, Save The Dragons, mystery meat of doom, PookyTheMagicalBear, spectrumvoid, Thok

Because of the downtime and backup errors, I have no night choices in my PM box. To those with choices, please resend. I'm going to set up a new night deadline so everyone has a chance to do this -- let's make it

Tuesday, April 24 at Midnight EDT

. I'll also prod people with choices as we get closer to the date.

I hope this is not too much of an inconvenience.

[Yaw]

I have all the choices on time, but I'm tired tonight. I'll figure things out and open the game tomorrow.

[Yaw]

Another grey morning dawns. Perhaps this morning will be better. Perhaps your lack of action yesterday has convinced the scum to stop killing your colleagues through its peacefulness.

Alas, it is not to be, for there is someone missing at breakfast. A search of the building reveals a beautiful new bear-skin rug adorning the floor of an office...and behind it the rest of PookyTheMagicalBear's corpse. If anything, the situation is growing worse. With liberal use of ACME(TM) Disenfectant, you clean and lock up the office, noting no indications that Pooky was involved with evil forces.

On your return to the cafeteria, you find a notice on the board. Thok has been reassigned to Jack Irving's office.

PookyTheMagicalBear, killed Night 7 (Jack Adams, formerly Jack Macdonald, Pro-Town)
Thok reassigned to the office of Jack Irving

It is now

Day 8

. With 7 alive, it will take

4 to lynch

.

[Mastermind of Sin]

2 scum and 1 sk dead, so I'm guessing 1-2 scum left, probably two. Since that would put us at lynch or lose, I'm not going to put my vote back on Quagmire. I'm not sure why everyone let you slip through the cracks yesterday, and now we're in a bit more of a bind.

FoS: Quagmire

, at least. TBH, I'm thinking that our best strategy at this point would be to go for No Lynch, since we're at an even number of people, with 1 NK per night. This will reduce the number of suspects we have to sort through, and probably gives us the best chance of winning. In addition, if any of us have offices that actually do anything, it'll give us more time to utilize them and gather information. Of course, if anyone has a better idea, I'm all ears, but standard procedure is telling me that our best bet is a No Lynch, given the circumstances.

[Thok]

Um, there are 7 people alive.