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healing everyone to one above starting hit points seems like its just going to drag this day out. didn't we already establish that long days in this game are extra bad for the town?
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i did read the thread thanks
i am in favor of everyone who's pussyfooting around with fake votes just hurting him dead instead.soi soi soi
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the above applies to people voting kinetic. people voting xyl should get over it because he's clearly town. abr is town too.soi soi soi
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hoopla is also scum, i would approve of people hurting her as wellsoi soi soi
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if i'm understanding this rage issue correctly, it will take a long time for the scum team to build up enough rage points to suddenly off someone who has taken no damage whatsoever, and when they do, one extra hit point is not going to stop them.
so, healing every single person to starting health +1 seems like a gigantic waste of time, and way too many people are hiding in this discussion when they should be scumhunting.soi soi soi
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i lurve youDrippingGoofball wrote:
QFTroflcopter wrote:so, healing every single person to starting health +1 seems like a gigantic waste of time, and way too many people are hiding in this discussion when they should be scumhunting.
Heal: roflcopter
Now I'm ready to hunt scum.soi soi soi
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abr's 110 is pure gold
i agree, tajo is town.
tajo, i'm not hurting with no order, i'm hurting the scummiest person and encouraging everyone else to hurt that same person. its organized.
speaking of organize, i'm organizing a brute squad, and inducting the following obviously town people into it immediately: abr, xyl, dgb, and tajo (if he'll accept). we should all agree on one person and put them down. over and over, until we've killed all the scum.soi soi soi
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right, hoopla dies right after kinetic
i love how i always make the scum squirm right awaysoi soi soi
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you're a special case. in this case, special as in scum.Hoopla wrote:roflcopter wrote:right, hoopla dies right after kinetic
i love how i always make the scum squirm right awayDo you normally jump on anyone that questions the crap you post, or am I the special case?soi soi soi
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also, tajo, might as well count me in the votecount for kinetic, since i'm just gonna keep hurting himsoi soi soi
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the scum hate it so much when town identify other town, it screws everything up for them
anyone who wants to join the brute squad, make your intentions known by hurting kinetic the next time you can take an actionsoi soi soi
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the attacks on viq over the 75% thing are a load of crapsoi soi soi
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this is alarmingly non interactive. are you just going to note things down in your little black book, or are you gonna join us in playing this game?Seraphim wrote:Rofl's crazy attacking is noted.
sway things? pshaw, the brute squad is just a more efficient method for my will to be done.tenchi wrote:This is so creepy. The last time I saw people do this, it allowed scum in the council (even when they were in the minority) to manipulate the vote. Also, why should we trust your choices? I feel just placing one scum in that council of four can really sway things.
to quote a certain tv character, "don't tell me what i can't do"tenchi wrote:This was said after some people told him not to post definitive statements without explanation.
Er... is rolfcopter drunk...?
i always have reasons. they're always strong because i'm awesome. gut feels are just as valid on marking who is town as who is scum, something which your comments here ignore.tenchi wrote:For me, "gut feels" come froms some hint of scumminess. Sure even with weak suspicions.
I want to know if Rolfcopter:
1. Has reasons
2. If his reasons are strong are weak.
3. If he admits his reasons are strong or weak
I don't care whether somebody calls somebody out, but I always look for a reason.
kinetic's 148 is a whole big tirade against abr, but abr already won that argument. then there's the bit about how i'm scum, but yet he doesn't think i'm scum... and the same with xyl... could you buddy moar harder please?
shinnen_no_me is also scum. these scumbags need to stop coordinating their actions so obviously.soi soi soi
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the more you try to slander me, the more it will not workKinetic wrote:The more I think about it, the more I feel the best scum strategy is a highly aggressive one. Especially if they can make it look townie to be aggressive.soi soi soi
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no if we all played like me, then we'd already have killed kinetic and we'd be working on his scumpartner hoopla. get it right.soi soi soi
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i wish everyone hadn't wasted their action healing people so they could be hurting kinetic insteadsoi soi soi
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guys, how are people missing this
the most obvious scum at this moment are hoopla and seraphim.
seraphim is textbook active lurking and following the most popular notion. its ridiculous.
i still don't like the anti viq stuff, seems stupid
abr is the most obviously town here
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waaaaSeraphim wrote:It should be noted that DGB, ABR, and rofl are all attacking different players despite the numerous calls for town consensus.
Remember that by hurting a player, you are endorsing their death. Unlike votes, which can be taken back, health is not so easily replenished.
more seraphim hurts plzsoi soi soi
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poptajo is losing all town credit at an incredible rate
seraphim and hoopla need to die post haste, and every 24 hours i will be hurting seraphim until he is dead, then i'll start on hoopla
hoopla healing kinetic is extra scummysoi soi soi
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no kinetic i'm not playing like this for reactions i'm playing like this because it wins games for town
seraphim, just hurry up and omgus hurt me already, you don't need to bandy around with the intent to hurt crap to try and get support. i can almost guarantee you'll be dead before me anyway if you want to try and get into a hurt off.soi soi soi
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xyl, seraphim first, then i'll help you with walt wishbone
the threat of a detailed, thought-out omgus looms over my headsoi soi soi
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you said that his first two posts made him town, but i'm not seeing it.
his first post is an excuse for not saying anything about xyl's alignment, then agreeing with the common consensus that everyone should be healed up, then asking for a mutual heal. there is nothing in there that actuallysaidanything. then his next post is just healing shinnen.
um, what? i thought you just said that when you were scum with him all he did was iioa. well, there's your iioa right there.
he follows up with "rofl's crazy attacking is noted" which is code for "i'm not gonna take a stance on it now but if it becomes popular i now have my foot in the door to be suspicious of rofl"
next post, he supports abr's call for a kill on viq, remarks that the game moves fast, and says viq is the scummiest so far.without saying why. yet i'm the one who's getting bitched at for not giving enough support for my attacks? does anyone see yet why the whole viq pseudo wagon is a load of horse shit?
i absolutely love his following post. "vote viq. i don't think xyl is scum. too many people are following shin's non participatory example, but we should lynch the scummy people first then worry about lurkers." lets see... seraphim himself hasn't actually participated worth a damn up to this point, but he's bitching about people not participating? and he still hasn't said why he wants viq dead, nor does he give a good reason for why xyl is town, but i'm still the one people are getting up in arms about not giving reasons with what i do. thats great. really.
next, seraphim asks xyl whether juls and walt are lurkers, and says we should sort out the regular lurkers from the scummy lurkers. i'm not really sure what that is even supposed tomean, but seraphim has done nothing this game except buddy up to xyl.
"at least i'm committing to a kill." i'll let you geniuses figure out for yourselves why this is scummy.
"tajo, could we have one of those fake votecount things?" - iioa
stupid questions for abr that also serve to defend shinnen, and an unexplained unvote. i especially love the "for now" part, because he's still leaving himself open to the possibility of returning to his still unexplained viq vote. note also that the bullshit about scummy lurkers vs regular lurkers all also served to defend shinnen
the bit about how xyl, dgb and i have attacked different players is more iioa bullshit
his intent to hurt me comes with the call for me to stop making threats and start hunting scum. already found one buddy.
and then the shining jewel in the pile of garbage that are his votes, he fishes for my role with the simple question of "soft-claim?"
seriously. quit the bullshit, xyl, turn off your i've-been-buddied-up-to blinders and get with the program.
and tajo, you are scum. grats on fooling people by burying us under a mountain of angry rhetoric, but all you're doing is stalling, stalling, stalling. don't heal someone who's been intentionally hurt again or i will kill you first.soi soi soi
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scumgroup: seraphim, tajo, shinnen, dgb
probably not scum: xyl
definitely not scum: abr, viqsoi soi soi
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oh yeah and hoopla is in the scumgroup too. if its a five man scumteam i've already nailed them all.soi soi soi
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dgb is scum because of poptajo's underhanded distancing/bussing, based on dgb's own theories on bussing.soi soi soi
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shinnen, that's called a strawman. and thanks for chainsaw defending seraphim.soi soi soi
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i was pointing out the double standard being applied, as a whole boatload of people have been all over my shit for something that seraphim has also done, yet no one felt it necessary to comment on himsoi soi soi
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good thing i can basically kill people all by myself, because it seems like nobody else in this game gets itsoi soi soi
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people need to stop healing bitches right now. when i get home i'll decide who is getting a piping hot serving of justice.soi soi soi
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dude. i never healed anyone and i actively campaigned against this whole stupid healing thing in the first place. dgb healed me, but it was non consensual.The Fonz wrote:Albert B. Rampage, Nuwen, populartajo, q21, roflcopter, vIQleS, WeyounsLastClone, and Xylthixlm
THe above are guilty of partaking in the scum-favouring healing up plan. Putting this here to remind myself in future.soi soi soi
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you know, seraphim should be on the list of people with existing hurts, but poptajo healed him like a brain dead monkeysoi soi soi
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stop fucking healing people! jesus christ!Seraphim wrote:Intent to heal: Xyl
There is no case on him and the people attacking him have no basis and are some of the scummier players in the game. If Zwet flips scum, Juls is next.soi soi soi
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i'm taking the fact that the only person who has even bothered to comment on what i said about seraphim was xyl, and he's only defending him as town based on some whack meta, as evidence that i am right on the moneysoi soi soi
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omg could you deflect more?Seraphim wrote:You still think I'm scum when there's other, much scummier people in the game right now? Like zwet and Hoopla?soi soi soi
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what a load of crap, you are scum with tajo, stop trying to get him false clearedSeraphim wrote:BTW, it's clear that tajo is leader of healer movement and the Fonz is leader of the aggressive movement...actually, I take that back, but he's definitely on the far end of that spectrum. At this point, I doubt either of them are scum.soi soi soi
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yeah, you're right. hoopla is the scummiest person who still has active damage on them, sinceAlbert B. Rampage wrote:
QFTroflcopter wrote:people need to stop healing bitches right now. when i get home i'll decide who is getting a piping hot serving of justice.
and hurt hooplasomeonehealed their obv scum partner. but i'll take care of both of them personally in future aeons.
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omg could you deflect more, again?Seraphim wrote:
omg could you tunnel more?roflcopter wrote:
omg could you deflect more?Seraphim wrote:You still think I'm scum when there's other, much scummier people in the game right now? Like zwet and Hoopla?
lol wifomSeraphim wrote:
I just seriously doubt that scum would stick their necks out this far if they were scum. Right now, I'm with Fonz that tajo is acting brain-addled right now.roflcopter wrote:
what a load of crap, you are scum with tajo, stop trying to get him false clearedSeraphim wrote:BTW, it's clear that tajo is leader of healer movement and the Fonz is leader of the aggressive movement...actually, I take that back, but he's definitely on the far end of that spectrum. At this point, I doubt either of them are scum.
could you PLEASE find something better to do with your time than defending this guy?Xylthixlm wrote:
If Seraphim is scum he's doing a hell of a lot better job at it than he did in the last game he played. Seriously, go find some other target.roflcopter wrote:
omg could you deflect more?Seraphim wrote:You still think I'm scum when there's other, much scummier people in the game right now? Like zwet and Hoopla?soi soi soi
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does a yes or no answer to that make any real difference to the way you're currently going about playing the game?Xylthixlm wrote:Now I have to wait for an official hurt count to find out if rofl is actually a Seraph. Thanks, rofl.soi soi soi
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seraphim, thanks for admitting that yes, you were deflecting. if my reasoning is so shitty, i'll wait for you to break it down and tell me why, but until then you probably shouldn't go around trying to deflect attacks onto other people because that is just as anti-town as tunneling ever was.
fonz already broke down why tajo's plan makes him scum, and i already broke down why you two are scum together, and with hoopla no less. since hoopla will be dying this aeon, i'll get back to you next aeon.soi soi soi
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xyl - are you against the hurting of hoopla? if not, why not join us in hurting hoopla?soi soi soi
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walt stop stalling and use your hurt, preferably on hooplasoi soi soi
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and shinnen just won the award for most obvious scum eversoi soi soi
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ok, once i'm recharged, either shinnen or hoopla is getting another wallop, whichever one is closer to death.soi soi soi
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i was at one above normal health and now i'm two below, so shinnen is a proven seraph. it should be obvious that the scum are lining up to shoot me, since i am now also a proven seraph.
as soon as i'm recharged i'm smacking shinnen, because proven scum power role is more important to kill than probable scum not power role hoopla
i endorse the killing of shinnen and then hoopla (and then i will reexamine my case on seraphim, then poptajo etc)soi soi soi
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ahahahaha strawmanShinnen_no_Me wrote:Well, I'm not saying that all in the group are scum. But I'm saying that it's REALLY odd that I'm getting attacks just for pointing out such group. Or do you have a serious case on me?soi soi soi
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your first two posts weren't so wildly different from most peoples early game posts that i would normally even point them out, but xyl made a point of saying somewhere that he got a distinct pro town vibe from your first two posts. i was just highlighting them to point out how ridiculous that statement was.seraphim wrote:My first post is...a first post. He hadn't posted enough to do anything that might allow me to gain a read on him. I have a town read on him right now. First posts aren't supposed to be amazing.
And yes, I agreed with the mutual healing bit at the beginning of the game. Note the second part: it's important. I had not been in this sort of game before and people had pointed out the benefits of filling the town up. I still believe in those benefits as it makes it harder for scum to bring players down.
no, people are now hurting me because i'm a power role and they're scumseraphim wrote:You could read it like that. But I prefer to translate that as "rofl, stop it, you're gonna get yourself lynched because of your erratic play, start hunting scum". Guess what? People are now hurting you because of your erratic play! who called it?
hey copout. the burden of proof is on the player who calls suspicion, not the player who questions the suspicion.seraphim wrote:I still see viq as suspicious. However, he has no damage on him and I plan on adhering to the plan. Tell me, why isn't viq suspicious? If you want to figure out why he's not town, go back and read his posts.
ok, no. first off, the two of you have some weird meta related circle jerk going on where you just call each other town over and over again and scream meta! i was scum with him once this isn't how he plays as scum! but i'll let that go for now because i'm not killing you today. but i did not accuse you of lurking, i accused you ofseraphim wrote:I was merely using my scum meta on him. You're doing the PBPA, figure that one out on your own. Also, you accuse me of lurking at that point in the game. Alright. Good for you. The game had been going on for a day, hunting lurkers OVER THE WEEKEND when ACTIVITY IS DOWN seems counterproductive. Killing the actual scum or the players who make minimal comments while lurking(LIKE ZWET) is the way to go.not participating, which, let me clue you in, is the same as ACTIVE LURKING. you were posting, often, but you weren't actually doing anything. then you just strawman my whole argument by trying to shoot down any plan that involved lurker hunting, and follow up with yet another deflection onto zwet. pretty awesome.
you ignored a more important part of my comment here - you needed xyl's answer to this why? you couldn't just figure it out for yourself why? you were and still are shamelessly buddying up to xyl, and the saddest part is he's buying it.seraphim wrote:Regular lurkers wait out the game and post small comments of town goodness. Scummy lurkers post even less and agree with whatever has been said. Pretty much to show up and hurt someone.
no, you were just stalling for shinnen, thats all there is to it. wait, let me update my chart - stalling for SHINNEN, THE SCUM POWER ROLE AND MOST OBVIOUS SCUM THAT HAS EVER EXISTED. that felt pretty good.seraphim wrote:I think that I deserved to know why he changed his tune so fast. There was no explanation...suddenly, he's attacking one player and then hurts a completely different one.
you mean "note to self - try to get confirmation of whether or not rofl is claiming seraph, so i can discuss with my scumbuddies how we won't be wasting a rage dump on rofl until we've had some sacraficial scum lambs like shinnen and hoopla hurt him in the most obvious way possible"seraphim wrote:You claimed you had more HP than me. That isn't a question for you to answer, it's a note to myself: rofl has soft-claimed a role with a lot of HP.
certainly. you should get your affairs in order, because this is heaven, and your death is preordained for circa the third aeon of this game.seraphim wrote:So, there's a case here, certainly...unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be garnering any sort of support and it's clear you've turned your attention elsewhere. Feel free to continue attacking me, however!soi soi soi
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tajo is still RAGING AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT instead of actually participating in this game. thats not exactly the pro-town sticking your neck out that fonz seems to think it is.populartajo wrote:I dont need to remind Fonz who was right the last time we played together...
Whatever. I really dont understand why my ideas are benefiting the scum when Im giving BIG arguments why town lost the other game. DAMAGE ANARCHY. Saying that only scum would agree with my plan is a something I totally disagree. Scum actually want what is happening right now:everyone is hurting whomever they want to hurt. There is obvscum hiding in this agressive stance but hey if you are blind I cant give you more eyes than you deserve.
Actually, the only flaw in my plan is that it needs everyone to cooperate but yeah that is never going to happen...soi soi soi
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sorry tajo, let me stop your attempt to out any other town seraphs right there.
yes, this is a large game, so multiple town seraphs is possible right? but we're still working under the assumption that there is almost definitely a scum seraph. well, if you're an unclaimed town seraph, and you're reading this, weigh how likely it is that there are two other town seraphs in this game.
answer: not at all likely
so one of me and shin still has to be scum, and you don't have to claim at all. don't listen to tajoscum. no matter how many times he says "start making sense rofl" he's still a fallen angel.soi soi soi
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doh. saw that coming, but i wish you wouldn't have said it out loud dgb.DrippingGoofball wrote:
I don't know how the rage points work, but I can't take action for a fairly large number of hours. If I could, I would have healed roflcopter.Albert B. Rampage wrote:DGB I doubt the scumbags have any rage points yet.soi soi soi
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you can always be an optimistic and hold out hope that all of the scumbags are as dumb as shinnen and hoopla have been so farsoi soi soi
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if we are both seraph town, then any other seraph is a seraph scum, and they're not going to claim right now anyway, they're gonna let us kill each other. you are not this stupid tajo, so stop trying to get any other town seraph to claim.populartajo wrote:
What about if you are both Seraph town?roflcopter wrote:sorry tajo, let me stop your attempt to out any other town seraphs right there.
yes, this is a large game, so multiple town seraphs is possible right? but we're still working under the assumption that there is almost definitely a scum seraph. well, if you're an unclaimed town seraph, and you're reading this, weigh how likely it is that there are two other town seraphs in this game.
answer: not at all likely
so one of me and shin still has to be scum, and you don't have to claim at all. don't listen to tajoscum. no matter how many times he says "start making sense rofl" he's still a fallen angel.
Calling me fallen angel until you dont have a voice, its not going to work, rabbit.soi soi soi
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tajo, shh, since you know who all your other scumbuddies are, you know that shinnen is the scum seraph, and you were just trying to get any other town seraphs out in the open.soi soi soi
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dgb, killing shinnen is more important than healing me. i've got enough health to last a while, i can be healed after shinnen is dead.soi soi soi
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ok, abr, dgb, we get it, you two don't need to go back and forth on this anymore, you're both townsoi soi soi
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sure you werepopulartajo wrote:
i was giving you an out in case shinnen comes up town but hey not my problem anymore.roflcopter wrote:tajo, shh, since you know who all your other scumbuddies are, you know that shinnen is the scum seraph, and you were just trying to get any other town seraphs out in the open.soi soi soi
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xyl, will you hurt shinnen the next time your powers are recharged?soi soi soi
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hurt shinnen, then keep reading. its better that way.vIQleS wrote:OK - I'm back (mostly)
I've done a skim read, and there's a few things i want to reply to. Hopefully I'll be able to post later in the day when i've had a chance to take my time and read a bit more carefully...soi soi soi
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don't be stupid. hurt shinnen.vIQleS wrote:Neither shine nor hoop are on my radar scum-wise.
At this point it seems the best option is to hurt one of them, and I expect I shall do so when I have ability back.
I will have to read carefully to see which of them I can build a case for. (If I can at all. If not I'll probably have to hurt Xyl)soi soi soi
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