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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:10 am

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Kinetic wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:I'm hurting ABR or Kinetic later today.
I support the ABR hurt.

I will heal Kinetic within the hour.
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:11 am

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Did you not see his fabricated argument with ABR?
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:19 am

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zwetschenwasser wrote:
I don't need support to hurt whoever I find scummy.
Actually, nevermind. I've started my meditation, so forget the hurts.
... this. Complete disregard for any kind of plan the town may have.
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:21 am

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zwetschenwasser wrote:Did you not see his fabricated argument with ABR?
I'd agree with you if the arguments with ABR was a binary contest between Kinetic and ABR. Kinetic seems very nervous that the SCUM will kill him, and that seems genuine and not fake at all. Kinetic's activity profile fits that of a player that refuses to come down without taking scum along for the ride. That's why I feel so strongly that Kinetic is town.

ABR on the other hand, is just plain scum.
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:26 am

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q21 wrote:... this. Complete disregard for any kind of plan the town may have.
It's still not scummy. We need a balance between the town's plan, and players doing what they truly believe in. Zwet isn't upsetting that balance.
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:26 am

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I feel like a zen master...
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:44 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:You rather just proclaim me scum, like they did with Walt, without any evidence?
The case against Wishbone was stronger than the case against Shinnen, despite the outcomes.
lol bullshit

i honestly can't believe you just went out of your way to attack dead town and defend dead scum
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:46 am

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q21 wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
q21 wrote:May I take this as one of the two sanctions I want to hurt zwet again?
I'm against hurting zwet.
So, one for, one against? I'll wait until it gets to two more for than against.

Trying to decide what exactly a Juls-town flip tells us. The answer I believe is, well, nothing. Except that she honestly did think ABR as the towniest player.
try analyzing the wagon on her. i guarantee if you use your nose you'll smell the bullshit.
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:23 am

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I need to reread the game. Tired from a long night last night...I went to go see Rent and it went rather late...yeah...so expect more later after a reread. But, catching up...

1. ABR and Kinetic both look town
2. rofl has jumped up my scumlist after Walt's flip
3. ABR has jumped down after Jul's flip
4. zwet has moved up my scum list.
5. Lurkers have moved up my scumlist.
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:24 am

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Heal:Kinetic
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:38 am

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GAAH!
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:43 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:I am sorry Juls. I am sorry Albert. Albert I have nothing left to accuse you of, but I will keep attacking you because of personal reasons.
I see.
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:45 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
I am sorry Juls. I am sorry Albert. Albert I have nothing left to accuse you of, but I will keep attacking you because of personal reasons
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I see.
I see that you are trying to rub off some fake credibility out of her flipping town. Not working.
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:48 am

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Haha just look at you. Blushing crimson. Ahh so sweet. Sooo sweet.

I think I would've preferred her be scum, but this feels great. You slowly come to realize your own inefficiency. You come to realize that what I said was right; that you are a worse mafia player than me. Yes, this really does feel good.
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:51 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote: I think I would've preferred her be scum, but this feels great. You slowly come to realize your own inefficiency. You come to realize that what I said was right; that you are a worse mafia player than me. Yes, this really does feel good.
Um.
Albert B. Rampage wrote: I don't like the fact that it became so personal for some people to kill me just because.
Do I even need to add a comment, or does posting these two quotes in conjunction to each other speak loudly enough?

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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:54 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:you are a worse mafia player than me. Yes, this really does feel good.
No one watches battles between bottom feeding creatures. They're ugly, warty and camouflage brown, and the water they live in is murky and sour.
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:55 am

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You see dgb, that is the difference between you and I. The players who think I'm town are articulate, very intelligent people, who are busy with their lives.

The players who think that you are town, are zwet (14 years old), giuseppe (16 years old). Sure, you can gather a few children around you and be their leader. Hahaha
Nuwen wrote:Do I even need to add a comment, or does posting these two quotes in conjunction to each other speak loudly enough?
Oh don't worry, catching scum has never been more personal to me.
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:56 am

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This is to report that I am going home now from the conference. I will be catching up tonight and tomorrow and maybe the day after that, but I will be available to converse starting tonight.
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:57 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:You see dgb, that is the difference between you and I. The players who think I'm town are articulate, very intelligent people, who are busy with their lives.
Touché, Kinetic and Xyl are such drooling retards, how did that slip my mind? You win.
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:00 am

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Kinetic wrote:Are Rofl and ABR considered a "significant faction" all of a sudden? Plus, I'm not convinced that they are scum just yet.
Xylthixlm wrote:Right now all three of you look town.
What is this I sense? Is dgb losing the support of the intelligent players that were backing her hurts?
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:02 am

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Sleeping on it helps.

So... ABR's reaction was
WHAM
OMGUS, with some ad hom thrown in. Since then he's covered it okay, but it's pretty obvious that his skin is more important to him than scumhunting. Looks scummy to me. Anyone have a meta on ABR? Some people have mentioned he plays like this as scum, how does he play as town?

Kinetic... to be honest, the reason I changed my mind on healing him is I think roflcopter might be seeing something I don't.

roflcopter: I have a tendency to back off and reevaluate for a while after I've just been instrumental in lynching a townie. See Newbie 699 (I played horrible there).

I notice ABR didn't do an analysis of Nuwen's scumlist.
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:02 am

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I fail to see how my age effects my reasoning skills. I fail to see how ABR's age hasn't effected his maturity. O.o'
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:03 am

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After extensively reading rofl and Nuwen I've come to the following realization...

I really don't trust either of them...

>>

I'm starting to wonder if we need to kill another Seraphim and unless he flips scum we might have to kill the other...

But then I'm wondering if they could both be town...

I feel that it is more likely that Nuwen is scum for a few reasons (the claim, in light of Shinnen being scum and the possibility of rofl being confirmed by it, actually looks much more calculated), additionally the walt snipe looks just as calculated (looked like she was trying to get someone else to finish him off, then after I healed him with only her or Rofl able to kill him at that point she finished him off...

Crap... I think Nuwen needs to die next. Despite me wanting Rofl to be scum.

I think if Nuwen flips scum rofl will truly be confirmed this time (much to my dismay -.-), but if she flips town it doesn't exactly mean rofl is scum (but it would raise the possibility).

I still need to do more reading on ABR and Xyl.

Also, more people should heal me. I'm at (-5) right now, I need to be at (-3 or -2) to get me out of range for a rage dump. There is a LARGE amount of players (virtually everyone but zwet at this point) who feel I'm town. While we're deciding on a target, a few people can use a couple cooldowns to get me out of this hole. I'm sure we can decide on a good target by tomorrow and then start hurting them tonight and finish them up tomorrow.
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:04 am

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I'll post a complete case on Nuwen this weekend.
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:04 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Kinetic wrote:Are Rofl and ABR considered a "significant faction" all of a sudden? Plus, I'm not convinced that they are scum just yet.
Xylthixlm wrote:Right now all three of you look town.
What is this I sense? Is dgb losing the support of the intelligent players that were backing her hurts?
Julz's flip helped your case. That being said I still feel DGB is more than likely town.
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