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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:52 pm

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Im back.
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:53 pm

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The Fonz wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:I'm surprised and upset at Fonz's attempt at making me render my watch completely useless by claiming who I'm watching
MASSIVE MISREP. Never said anything of the sort.
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:56 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:
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Xylthixlm wrote:Remember, at the end of the day there's only one thing that matters: Making sure that scum die before townies.
and that sir is what i am doing
trying to do and failing, sir, trying and failing.
we'll see about that when i'm done killing you
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:56 pm

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roflcopter wrote:i'm noticing how hard its suddenly becoming for any sort of consensus to be made

the (really stupid) rules that are being shoved down are throats now involve only being allowed to suspect ONE PERSON AT A TIME, and not suspecting ANYONE if you'd rather be healing

with a dedicated heal squad forming, how are we ever supposed to find three people who are free to agree on hurting someone?

It's a hurt squad, not a heal squad. We don't heal the victim, we hurt the perpetrator.
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roflcopter wrote:the (really stupid) rules that are being shoved down are throats now involve only being allowed to suspect ONE PERSON AT A TIME, and not suspecting ANYONE if you'd rather be healing
QFT

I violently disagree with this strategy, I have no idea why suddenly it was 'needed.' I can just see those Rage Points piling up as we bicker.
This was the strat all along (though raised from two to three to assuage the concerns of the consensual faction). We're just enforcing it now to prevent random damage.

Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:57 pm

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Also, I dont get this new system Fonz is proposing. Can you clarify?

Firestarter become obv town in the last pages. Seraphim is still town.

Xyl and rolf are starting to worry me. The rabbit is convincing in his "Xyl should be lurkerhunting if town". Again, Im a little biased since I feel Xyl is town but after MS3 I should think twice before peggin him so quick.

Now if there is a scum in Nuwen-rolf it would be pretty much the rabbit if it werent for Nuwen's killing of obvtown Walt.

Basically we should decide between one of them since 2-2 Seraphims is a probability we shouldnt discount and that I stupidly discarded earlier. Nuwen needs to come back asap.
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:58 pm

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fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:58 pm

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fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
Rabbit, you think Nuwen is scum?
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:59 pm

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Same system it was from the start, except that a) mimimum number of people on a wagon is now three and not two and b) we've put together a dedicated squad to kill anyone dealing out what you call random damage.

Why do you have seraphim as town? His is the Shinnen hurt that looks most bus-like.
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:01 pm

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populartajo wrote:
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fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
Rabbit, you think Nuwen is scum?
most likely. between killing walt and setting up a string of lynches based on the fact that walt flipped town (something she set up BEFORE killing walt i might add) i would be very supportive of any momentum to see her dead. however, she has 12 hp, and i can't effectively kill her on my own without taking more than a week to do it.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:01 pm

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roflcopter wrote:
fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
Yes... but a hurt is stronger than a normal vote. So you need more backing than normal, not less. You can have a secondary suspect if you want, but you need to concentrate your fire on no1 (or rather, the most viable wagon you can bring yourself to support).
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:02 pm

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roflcopter is assuming I have less than 12 hp.
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:02 pm

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your so called "random damage" is not random, and your kill squad is basically a big excuse for anyone on it to not participate in a real wagon and, guess what, spread more "random damage"

short version, your retaliatory kill squad is the worst idea so far this game
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:03 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:roflcopter is assuming I have less than 12 hp.
that was my assumption based on your hissy fit begging for heals, yes
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:04 pm

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No, it is to stop random damage and consolidate wagons. You don't have nukes because you want to use them.
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:04 pm

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The Fonz wrote:
roflcopter wrote:
fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
Yes... but a hurt is stronger than a normal vote. So you need more backing than normal, not less. You can have a secondary suspect if you want, but you need to concentrate your fire on no1 (or rather, the most viable wagon you can bring yourself to support).
You know that votes would work awesome in this situation?
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:04 pm

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The Fonz wrote:
roflcopter wrote:
fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
Yes... but a hurt is stronger than a normal vote. So you need more backing than normal, not less. You can have a secondary suspect if you want, but you need to concentrate your fire on no1 (or rather, the most viable wagon you can bring yourself to support).
you can support the hurting of multiple players in the same way you can support the wagoning of multiple players. trying to limit each person to supporting one hurtwagon at a time is infantile.
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:04 pm

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The Fonz wrote:No, it is to stop random damage and consolidate wagons. You don't have nukes because you want to use them.
You know that votes would work excelent in this siatuation. (consolidatign wagons)
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:04 pm

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roflcopter: populartajo's L-1 idea was worse.
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:05 pm

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roflcopter wrote:
populartajo wrote:
roflcopter wrote:
fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
Rabbit, you think Nuwen is scum?
most likely. between killing walt and setting up a string of lynches based on the fact that walt flipped town (something she set up BEFORE killing walt i might add) i would be very supportive of any momentum to see her dead. however, she has 12 hp, and i can't effectively kill her on my own without taking more than a week to do it.
SO why are you going with xyl and not with nuwen that has more probs of being scum from your POV?
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:06 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:roflcopter: populartajo's L-1 idea was worse.
the is the kind of sideline egging on shit that town xyl NEVER FUCKING DOES.
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:06 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:roflcopter: populartajo's L-1 idea was worse.
I HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT GOOD.
I would have left Walt in L-1.
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:07 pm

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populartajo wrote:
roflcopter wrote:
populartajo wrote:
roflcopter wrote:
fonz wrote:Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.
but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".
Rabbit, you think Nuwen is scum?
most likely. between killing walt and setting up a string of lynches based on the fact that walt flipped town (something she set up BEFORE killing walt i might add) i would be very supportive of any momentum to see her dead. however, she has 12 hp, and i can't effectively kill her on my own without taking more than a week to do it.
SO why are you going with xyl and not with nuwen that has more probs of being scum from your POV?
did you miss the part where i said she has 12 hp and it would take me more than a week? because the unspoken second part of that is it will be quicker to kill xyl.

and nowhere there did i say she has a higher probability of being scum than xyl.
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:07 pm

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But votes, Tajo, require too much consensus and stall the game.
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:08 pm

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The Fonz wrote:Same system it was from the start, except that a) mimimum number of people on a wagon is now three and not two and b) we've put together a dedicated squad to kill anyone dealing out what you call random damage.

Why do you have seraphim as town? His is the Shinnen hurt that looks most bus-like.
Gut. Answers to Rolf's accusations. It could change if both are scumbuddies, though.
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:08 pm

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roflcopter wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:roflcopter is assuming I have less than 12 hp.
that was my assumption based on your hissy fit begging for heals, yes
This one?
Xylthixlm wrote:It would be really cool if someone would heal me before roflcopter gets in another two hits. Before or after killing WLC, either way.
I meant "two hits" not "one hit for two points of damage", if it helps.
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