War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[Kinetic]

no, after i'm done cleaning you up, i'll get to work on killing the rest of the scum

So you admit to being scum then?

ha

You don't even deny it.

As for ad hom, I attacked your ideas. You attacked me. I defended myself. Not the same thing. If anything, you're the one using Ad hom.

what do you want me to say, "no i'm not admitting to being scum"? that was a ridiculous statement to make, so all it got was a laugh.

as for ad hom, calling me a "rabid dog that needs to be put down" is pretty much the definition of ad hom, and more than half of your attacks on me have consisted of simply saying i'm bad for the town and not even in any way arguing for why i would actually be scum.

You're acting irrational, attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you completely, and refusing to be civil and argue merits of your case.

Yes, I do feel the analogy is apt because it is how you are playing. I'm supposed to just take your word that you are town and not question it? All the while you keep hitting me with that sword of yours.

Truth be told, at the beginning I didn't think you were scum. I still don't completely believe it, unless you're exceptional at acting like a complete fool, but you refuse to listen to reason, refuse to gain consensus, are acting like you are the only person who matters, and that kind of play needs to STOP.

If you refuse to stop willingly, then you need to die to be stopped. It is that simple.

another big excuse to kill me even if i'm town.

thats exactly the kind of thing scum try to do all the time.

It is how I play. In this game townies can be just as detrimental to a town winning the game as any scum. Thus if you're going to play in a way that benefits the scum and refuse to do otherwise I'm going to have to kill you.

The difference is I won't be as sad if you flip townie than someone who I thought was scum but really just make mistakes.

Ask Guardian, I've lynched him like 3 times I felt he was town but just made anti-town plays (like one game he claimed doctor, outed the REAL doctor, and then got lynched and was actually a vanilla townie). He needed to die, even though I felt he was most likely a townie. You are the same way.

I've given you a choice. You're too stubborn to take it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yo Kinetic, how about this. I will change my anti-town ways if you analyze Nuwen's profile and re-evaluate what you think of her.

[Kinetic]

kinetic, please please please re-read xylthixlm and report back a fresh evaluation of him. i don't even care if you keep hammering away at the whole roflcopter is a bad dog and he needs to be put down thing, but please look at xyl with fresh eyes.

Bleh, fine.

Give me a couple hours, I'll be back.

[roflcopter]

ok, if you're going to use self meta kinetic, please skim any game i've ever played as town (which is most of my games) and see how i play. might i suggest crackers! mafia? that was a particularly awesome game. that game will also give you a feel for how off dgb is here compared to her town play there.

[Kinetic]

Yo Kinetic, how about this. I will change my anti-town ways if you analyze Nuwen's profile and re-evaluate what you think of her.

Fine, I'll get her too. At the same time I'm going to look at Rofl and compare the two.

[roflcopter]

i'm putting a hold on the kinetic hurt train

i'm putting the xylthixlm hurt train into high gear

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah I call for a ceasefire to do a complete re-read.

[Kinetic]

Yeah I call for a ceasefire to do a complete re-read.

Can I maybe get some heals then... I really don't like being so perilously close to dying...

[Xylthixlm]

no fucking way. xyl needs to die immediately, and anyone with any semblance of a meta on him who doesn't see this is way too obviously his scumpartner. i'm looking at you here dgb and seraphim.

On the upside I might finally find out what people think my meta is.

[Kinetic]

ok, if you're going to use self meta kinetic, please skim any game i've ever played as town (which is most of my games) and see how i play. might i suggest crackers! mafia? that was a particularly awesome game. that game will also give you a feel for how off dgb is here compared to her town play there.

I have, that's where this gets so difficult. Look back, I've even stated I did earlier. I seriously think you could be town but you going rabid on me isn't helping.

[Xylthixlm]

Right now all three of you look town.

[Xylthixlm]

On the other hand, I've staged an argument with a townie to make myself look town before, and I wouldn't put that past any of you three.

Ahhh, paranoia.

[Kinetic]

I still want to see Julz's flip pretty desperately though...

[roflcopter]

its like xyl isn't even trying here. i think he knows i've nailed him

and he dies in the fastest fashion i can muster.

call intent to hurt xylthixlm

if you're joining me sound off like you've got a pair. my recharge finishes saturday night at 11, and he's getting a pounding right then.

[zwetschenwasser]

The last few kinetic/ABR posts indicate that the whole debate was fabricated between scumbuddies. I'm upset that Juls isn't lynched yet, and I'll hurt her again later if she isn't dead.

[Kinetic]

The last few kinetic/ABR posts indicate that the whole debate was fabricated between scumbuddies. I'm upset that Juls isn't lynched yet, and I'll hurt her again later if she isn't dead.

Where does in indicate that?

[Kinetic]

Where does it* indicate that?

[zwetschenwasser]

Yo Kinetic, how about this. I will change my anti-town ways if you analyze Nuwen's profile and re-evaluate what you think of her.

After you resignedly agree to this instead of calling him out on admitting that he's acting antitown.

[Kinetic]

Yo Kinetic, how about this. I will change my anti-town ways if you analyze Nuwen's profile and re-evaluate what you think of her.

After you resignedly agree to this instead of calling him out on admitting that he's acting antitown.

Honestly, I was getting tired of the whole thing and I wanted to take a nap... However I missed that and it is quite an interesting find.

[zwetschenwasser]

Very convenient miss, Kinetic. IGMEOY

[Kinetic]

Amazing Zwet. I've just read your entire contribution to this game... Ironically, after 70 pages that was the only original thought yet.

[zwetschenwasser]

^dodges issue

[Kinetic]

What is the issue? I missed something. You think its suspicious that I missed it.

Congrats, you found something I missed. Maybe if you lurked less and played more you could actually catch a of things and come close to making a significant contribution to the game.

[q21]

Also notice the q21 crusade on zwetschenwasser.

I think he's scummy. There's more of a case on him than most other people with decreased health totals. I noticed that the support I had earlier has dried up, though, so I called intent again. No one's backed me so I'm leaving him alone, I thought that was how it worked.

I don't like this little giusepe dgb xyl alliance here...we should kill them all.

The difference between this and rolf's brute squad at the beginning of the game? Maybe the fact that you aren't on this one.

for posterity, lets list some appeals that kinetic has been making recently

appeal to emotion
appeal to fear
appeal to authority

there's probably more fallacies going on, but those are the ones that really pop out

I can see the first two, but please point to an example of the third. If it's there I missed it.

Here you go:

I AM THE BEST AT MAFIA I WON TWO SCUMMIES

Misrepresentation of note.

its like xyl isn't even trying here. i think he knows i've nailed him

and he dies in the fastest fashion i can muster.

call intent to hurt xylthixlm

if you're joining me sound off like you've got a pair. my recharge finishes saturday night at 11, and he's getting a pounding right then.

Without Walt to whale on his posts have suddenly become very flimsy. I support this hurt. Though I have to ask, if no one had offered support, would you have hurt him anyway when you recharged?

Also the Juls thing needs to end. My hurt is recharged, if no one speaks up to stop me in the next 30 minutes I'll finish her.

[Kinetic]

I plan on killing Julz at 8:30 when my hurt renews. How about healing me instead since I have 6 damage?