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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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This discussion about who catched Shinnen first is laughable. Just for more polemic, I WAS the first to call her scum.
Using my scum detection powers Im damn sure that viqles has to be scum too. DGB should also be under heavy scrutiny. There are SO many people right now that I would call almost confirmed since Shinnen was obv newb scum.
Also, Seraphim, the player, dont get frustrated for listening to rolf. Trust me. The best idea is to ignore him completely until he realizes how wrong he is in some things.
Dont get overconfident, though. Scum can still win. Hard road but they can still do it if we make the same mistake we were about to make yesterday: DAMAGE ANARCHY. Yesterday consensus was easy only because we had to decide between rolf and Shinnen.
The plan now is to ONLY hurt people heavily suspected. We are lucky to have a down scum that gives us so many players to trust. Anyone hurting players that are not heavily suspected and prob town should be hurt to death.Call me Tajo.
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ebwop: Agree that ARB hasn't done anything of the sort. If anything he's tried distance form the credit claiming, which is a point in his favour.
... no clue where the word influence fits in there?"I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.
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q21 Mafia Scum
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I tend to feel that way in general. But the credit claiming spate set my teeth on edge.roflcopter wrote:
no, fonz is townq21 wrote:
Agree that ARB hasn't done anything of the sort. If anything he's tried distance form the credit claiming, which is a point in his influence.Hoopla wrote:and I know you're going to parade around like the egocentric town hero because you hit scum D1.
Fonz (and to a lesser degree rolf) has been doing this and included ARB. The degree to which Fonz has been trying to claim credit is actually starting to look a little scummy."I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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Updated scumlist
Prob Town
Seprahim
ABR
q21
Cybele-WLC
Nuwen
Xyl
Rolf
Kinetic
Fonz
Neutral
Walt
zwet
Juls
Drench
Giusepee
Hoopla
Prob Scum
DGB
Tenchi
viqles
Shinne- YEAH, BABY.Call me Tajo.
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demonstrate, please, everything that shinnen wrote about him is pointing straight to towntajo wrote:Using my scum detection powers Im damn sure that viqles has to be scum too.
gee, what a convenient position to take regarding the practically confirmed town power roletajo wrote:Also, Seraphim, the player, dont get frustrated for listening to rolf. Trust me. The best idea is to ignore him completely until he realizes how wrong he is in some things.soi soi soi
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ok tajo, also please explain why hoopla is neutral on your listsoi soi soi
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Dude - you think you've got problems?Kinetic wrote:
And it is KINETIC, no E, I am not one of Barbie's plastic friends.
My question here was not about the last game, but (and you yourself answered this) "had this been mentioned in the thread or did you have some inside knowledge"....Kinetic wrote: While I haven't by any stretch of the imagination cleared any of the people on your list, I'm at least looking at all the possibilities. Honestly, by this point in the game I'm tired of looking at the more active side. I've fenced directly with ABR, and indirectly with Xyl and Rofl. You, on the other hand, have pretty much tried to stay out of any arguments and have made bupkis but OMGUS and some mild pointing out of things you thought might help you...
Now reading you in isolation I'm more concrete about my suspicions of you.
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Anyway, you've already made your case why this isn't scummy, so I'll ask you not to reiterate it and focus on the other points I bring up, I'm just putting it here so that the entirety of your play is obvious.
Same post... but I hadn't realized you were in the last game... This piqued my interest because of something you tried to nail me on later in the game...vIQleS wrote:(Last game, it took a week before rage started to accumulate).
vIQleS wrote:
Did someone say that? Because I don't remember anyone else saying that... I'm going to bed - can someone check this please.Kinetic wrote: Assuming everything that is said about rage mechanics is true in this game, that means at most scum can only hold up to 3 rage points.
I knew it was true (although I hadn't remembered the exact number to be honest). What I wanted to know was how didKinetic wrote:
I later re-posted the role PM that was posted earlier... but it didn't hit me until I re-read you and realized you were SCUM in the last game...
You knew this was true. Knew it without even needing to look it up... So I wondered, why on earth would you need someone to look it up for you?
youknow it was true. This has now been answered to my satisfaction.
I don't think I've mentioned the last game at all (other than the example above) - there has been a couple of questions where I was all set to answer, but in each case someone else beat me to it. (this is a very swift game)
Begging the question... At least try and get your logical fallacies right...Kinetic wrote: blah blah
And now it begs the question:
I'll be the first to admit I haven't contributed much yet. I don't have the sort of time that some of you seem to have, and after my assesment of shinnen, I really don't trust my abilty to pick scum.
I do think that it would be an extraordinary coincidence (or some sort of superhuman abilty) if the other suspects at the moment turn out to also be scum. However as I've just mentioned, I think I'm going to have to learn to trust my instincts less and maybe go with the majority.
My guess would be at least 1, maybe 2. FWIW...populartajo wrote:
I could bet all my money that there is no scum in that list.Shinnen_no_Me wrote:Oh, we can all play the same game of grouping people under groups without good bases (in your case, with no bases at all):
Scumgroup: rofl, tajo, xyl, abr.
I find it funny that you (rofl) say that Seraphim doesn't give reasons for saying which players he want dead/find scummy, yet you do the same thing. Hypocrite. I don't like people who point out things in other players, while they are doing the same under lame excuses.Show[size=75]
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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Do you forget that scum can daytalk? The attack against viqles (75%) was shit. Wanna take a guess how viqles reacted against her?roflcopter wrote:
demonstrate, please, everything that shinnen wrote about him is pointing straight to towntajo wrote:Using my scum detection powers Im damn sure that viqles has to be scum too.
Call me Tajo.
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I dont have a read on her. Yes, I know she posts a lot but I dont remember anything obvscum that would lead me to put her in the third group. What is the case on her? Ill need to reread her to evaluate her.roflcopter wrote:ok tajo, also please explain why hoopla is neutral on your listCall me Tajo.
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You know, there are other players this applies to more but....GAAAAAH JUST CAN'T DO IT!Also, Seraphim, the player, dont get frustrated for listening to rolf. Trust me. The best idea is to ignore him completely until he realizes how wrong he is in some things.
There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start.Dont get overconfident, though. Scum can still win. Hard road but they can still do it if we make the same mistake we were about to make yesterday: DAMAGE ANARCHY. Yesterday consensus was easy only because we had to decide between rolf and Shinnen.
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GOGOGOGO.The Fonz wrote:
You know, there are other players this applies to more but....GAAAAAH JUST CAN'T DO IT!Also, Seraphim, the player, dont get frustrated for listening to rolf. Trust me. The best idea is to ignore him completely until he realizes how wrong he is in some things.
There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start.Dont get overconfident, though. Scum can still win. Hard road but they can still do it if we make the same mistake we were about to make yesterday: DAMAGE ANARCHY. Yesterday consensus was easy only because we had to decide between rolf and Shinnen.
Call me Tajo.
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see this is why you shouldn't just put me on /ignore, since i just fucking posted a case against hooplapopulartajo wrote:
I dont have a read on her. Yes, I know she posts a lot but I dont remember anything obvscum that would lead me to put her in the third group. What is the case on her? Ill need to reread her to evaluate her.roflcopter wrote:ok tajo, also please explain why hoopla is neutral on your listsoi soi soi
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# Albert B. Rampage - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Nuwen,Kinetic(1)
# Drench - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# DrippingGoofball - Hurt by: Hoopla (1) Healed by: WeyounsLastClone/Cybelle (1)
# Giuseppe - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# Hoopla - Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, roflcopterx2, WaltWishbone (4) Healed by: (0)
# Juls - Hurt by: Xylthixlm (1) Healed by: zwetschenwasser (1)
# Kinetic - Hurt by: roflcopter (1) Healed by: Hoopla (1)
# Nuwen - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Albert B. Rampage (1)
# populartajo - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Tenchi (1)
# q21 - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: populartajo (1)
# roflcopter - Hurt by: Shinnen_no_Mex2, Hoopla (3) Healed by: DrippingGoofball, populartajo (2)
# Seraphim - Hurt by: roflcopter (1) Healed by: Shinnen_no_Me, populartajo (2)
# Tenchi - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# The Fonz - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# vIQleS - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: WaltWishbone (1)
# WaltWishbone - Hurt by: DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm, Nuwen, Xylthixlm (4) Healed by: vIQleS (1)
# WeyounsLastClone/Cybele (-1 HP) - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: q21 (1)
# Xylthixlm - Hurt by: Juls, zwetschenwasser (2) Healed by: Juls,Drench(1)
# zwetschenwasser - Hurt by: q21, Seraphim (2) Healed by: (0)
Dead
# Shinnen_no_Me- Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz, Kinetic,DrippingGoofball, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, q21, Juls, Xylthixlm, Nuwenx2, The Fonz, roflcopterx2(13) Healed by: Seraphim (1)
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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vIQleS wrote:
Dude - you think you've got problems?Kinetic wrote:
And it is KINETIC, no E, I am not one of Barbie's plastic friends.
My question here was not about the last game, but (and you yourself answered this) "had this been mentioned in the thread or did you have some inside knowledge"....Kinetic wrote: While I haven't by any stretch of the imagination cleared any of the people on your list, I'm at least looking at all the possibilities. Honestly, by this point in the game I'm tired of looking at the more active side. I've fenced directly with ABR, and indirectly with Xyl and Rofl. You, on the other hand, have pretty much tried to stay out of any arguments and have made bupkis but OMGUS and some mild pointing out of things you thought might help you...
Now reading you in isolation I'm more concrete about my suspicions of you.
[snip]
Anyway, you've already made your case why this isn't scummy, so I'll ask you not to reiterate it and focus on the other points I bring up, I'm just putting it here so that the entirety of your play is obvious.
Excellent timing. Last time I heard from you, you were going to tell us why Shinnen was town to you. Im still waiting.vIQleS wrote:(Last game, it took a week before rage started to accumulate).
Same post... but I hadn't realized you were in the last game... This piqued my interest because of something you tried to nail me on later in the game...
vIQleS wrote:
Did someone say that? Because I don't remember anyone else saying that... I'm going to bed - can someone check this please.Kinetic wrote: Assuming everything that is said about rage mechanics is true in this game, that means at most scum can only hold up to 3 rage points.
I knew it was true (although I hadn't remembered the exact number to be honest). What I wanted to know was how didKinetic wrote:
I later re-posted the role PM that was posted earlier... but it didn't hit me until I re-read you and realized you were SCUM in the last game...
You knew this was true. Knew it without even needing to look it up... So I wondered, why on earth would you need someone to look it up for you?
youknow it was true. This has now been answered to my satisfaction.
I don't think I've mentioned the last game at all (other than the example above) - there has been a couple of questions where I was all set to answer, but in each case someone else beat me to it. (this is a very swift game)
Begging the question... At least try and get your logical fallacies right...Kinetic wrote: blah blah
And now it begs the question:
I'll be the first to admit I haven't contributed much yet. I don't have the sort of time that some of you seem to have, and after my assesment of shinnen, I really don't trust my abilty to pick scum.
I do think that it would be an extraordinary coincidence (or some sort of superhuman abilty) if the other suspects at the moment turn out to also be scum. However as I've just mentioned, I think I'm going to have to learn to trust my instincts less and maybe go with the majority.
My guess would be at least 1, maybe 2. FWIW...populartajo wrote:
I could bet all my money that there is no scum in that list.Shinnen_no_Me wrote:Oh, we can all play the same game of grouping people under groups without good bases (in your case, with no bases at all):
Scumgroup: rofl, tajo, xyl, abr.
I find it funny that you (rofl) say that Seraphim doesn't give reasons for saying which players he want dead/find scummy, yet you do the same thing. Hypocrite. I don't like people who point out things in other players, while they are doing the same under lame excuses.Call me Tajo.
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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oh my fucking god poptajo is scumpopulartajo wrote:Last time I heard about you, viq, you were going to tell us why Shinnen was town to you. Im still waiting.soi soi soi
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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THERE HAS TO BE SCUM HERE.# Shinnen_no_Me - Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz, Kinetic, DrippingGoofball, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, q21, Juls, Xylthixlm, Nuwen x2, The Fonz, roflcopter x2 (13) Healed by: Seraphim (1)Call me Tajo.
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Im reading it now. Its hard to find a decent post of you with all the random attacks against me and Seraphim.roflcopter wrote:
see this is why you shouldn't just put me on /ignore, since i just fucking posted a case against hooplapopulartajo wrote:
I dont have a read on her. Yes, I know she posts a lot but I dont remember anything obvscum that would lead me to put her in the third group. What is the case on her? Ill need to reread her to evaluate her.roflcopter wrote:ok tajo, also please explain why hoopla is neutral on your listCall me Tajo.
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you should try reading everything posted in the game, its a good way to play mafiasoi soi soi
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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roflcopter wrote:you should try reading everything posted in the game, its a good way to play mafiapopulartajo wrote:Im reading it now. Its hard to find a decent post of you with all the random attacks against me and Seraphim.Call me Tajo.
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Since that list contains 14 of the remaining 19 players... you're probably right. Well done.populartajo wrote:
THERE HAS TO BE SCUM HERE.# Shinnen_no_Me - Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz, Kinetic, DrippingGoofball, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, q21, Juls, Xylthixlm, Nuwen x2, The Fonz, roflcopter x2 (13) Healed by: Seraphim (1)"I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.
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populartajo Alpaca Caliente
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Maybe because taking out the players that are prob town would help?q21 wrote:
Since that list contains 14 of the remaining 19 players... you're probably right. Well done.populartajo wrote:
THERE HAS TO BE SCUM HERE.# Shinnen_no_Me - Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz, Kinetic, DrippingGoofball, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, q21, Juls, Xylthixlm, Nuwen x2, The Fonz, roflcopter x2 (13) Healed by: Seraphim (1)
I have no idea who do you think is scum. Share, plz?Call me Tajo.
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