Last time I played in an iamausername game I had a great time, so lets keep with the fun times.
Big waves to elvis
We have to be careful about a player getting to a majority - just a simple imprint can be unvoted.So we have to be careful about handing out the imprints.
Are you trying to pull a fast one?I personally like the power root,at least for tonight,as scum hunting can become difficult for me with so many players I do not know. If we are to imprint tonight, we should imprint everyone as town would have twice as many night actions available to them compared to town. We can then claim some results, assuming they help us find scum or confirmed town, and imprint off that. For example, if we imprint everyone and I get a cop/investigative ability that I use on Elvis_knits that flips her town, then we can give her an imprint the next day.
When we started I knew a lot lss about imprinting other than it would be useful in the hands of good protown players. I have limited experience with the people here, I know I've played with Plum but only briefly. But I've played one long and great game with EK and know her to be an excellent player and also feel I have an edge in reading her.@SerialClergyman Why did you inprint elvis_knits in your very first post? Especially since you have then said that you feel it's best to lynch without imprinting.
That's a terrible post. ANYTHING elvis says is coming from that position - do you feel it's enough to discredit any argument she makes about anythign from now to the end of the game?You know elvis, all of what you say is coming from someone who's trying to pass herself and SC off as confirmed because you misunderstood a rule.
I didn't say does that make her scummy, I said does that mean any argument she makes will be coloured by that viewpoint? Right now you're ignoring very legitimate questions from her and I don't like it.Yes, I do. She is trying to pass YOU BOTH off as CONFIRMED now because of that and she has yet to rescind it.
She is scummiest person to me right now and that's why my vote is placed on her.
Zzz. You guys are the ones coming up with a theory, you should have an idea in your mind about how it went down. Dismissing a line of enquiry due to some WIFOM is a terrible idea, as I've argued in just about every game ever. To assume that I would imprint my scumbuddy in my first post is not the best, to assume that elvis cooked up a scheme with that person continues to disappoint.Those remaining questions are heading into WIFOM territory.
On Elvis & SC
SC seems to get a bit overaggressive over DeathNote's suggested ideato imprint everyone in Post 13,as did Elvis when she voted DeathNotein Post 14. He was just throwing out an idea, and you both overreacted quite a bit. Then Elvis turns around just a few posts later in Post 17 that she likes fast, exciting games and that it really isn't that bad of an idea, but only after SC alluded that it could be okay. This feels like acontradiction to me of her vote of DeathNote.
I'm getting the feeling of elvis and SC buddying a bit. My reasons here are that for one SC voted to imprint both himself and elvis and in Post 119, elvis does the same thing. It just seems like they are trying to work together,as they did when they both shot down DeathNote's idea.Post 119 does nothing but add to my theory.
So you can see how focused on Deathnote she is. And don't forget this is IN THE ELVIS AND SC SECTION of her review.I also am not a fan of someone who just comes out Day 1 saying that "so&so and so&so are scum" just because you don't like their ideas. Elvis does this in Post 47. (SC note: Guess who? Deathnote!)
The last thing I'm not a fan ofis how overly insulting and condescending elvis has been to quite a few of players. (SC note: Also deathnote, but I grant you this is more ambiguous)It seems right now that if we don't go with elvis's way, it's the highway. Remember that this is a mafia game and it does get heated, but it doesn't give you a reason to sit and fling ad hom at everyone that you disagree with.
If she'd come out and said he was town I could have perhaps understood her obsession with him in the first section, but she didn't. She did the classic can't-say-my-buddy-is-town-can't-say-he's-scum thing and said he was kinda scummy, but there's nonetheless reason not to vote him. This is perhaps more gut, but this is EXACTLY what scum talking about their buddy look like.On DeathNote
I definitely don't like his pressure of trying to make everyone choose between either one of his plans.
I've played with DeathNote before and it very much seems like he was just trying to get ideas out there. I'm not getting a completely scummy feeling from him.
Keeps pushing the Deathnote's idea was the problem, not that he's scummy.On VMD
I think VMD's vote on TheButtonmen is a little opportunistic because he wasn't the only one discussing that theory/idea. I don't think he is being against the spirit of the game. Again, here is someone who just happened to bring up an idea that someone else didn't like.It's like the same thing as elvis voting DeathNote because she didn't like his idea.
Was that the hottest issue at the time? It heads her section on ideas and theories and again subtly defends him. It ignores that many of his suggestions were made AFTER mod clarifications and that fact that this is someone she apparantly is not getting a 'completely scummy feeling from', which to me suggests she's at least getting a partially scummy feeling form him, yet is constantly mentioning him, defending him and attacking his accusors.On the theories/ideas
I can see where DeathNote was coming from, especially prior to mod clarifications,but there is just too much that we don't know. Also, with all 4 of the rogues receiving an imprint, it's like we'd be setting ourselves up for failure.
Starbuck wrote:Quite easy for you to go after someone who has pointed out so many faults of yours and Elvis's already.
I'm not an OMGUS-y player. I've been criticised before. But your post was scummy, so you're the one who gets my vote.Starbuck wrote:I am not the only person who has dismissed your questions as WIFOM and as distraction from the game.
Because there are both scum and town motivations to clearing oneself. Why can't town try to clear themselves and others based on game information?How is it not scummy to try and clear yourself or someone else based on the same thing on Day 1???
button wrote:Here's some questions I'd rather answered, do you have any town tells on Elvis you want to share (seeing as your defending her and imprinting her)?
SC wrote:Elvis trying to clear me is a good start, but elvis trying to clear anyone with info like that is definitely a positive. She's not the sort of scum that gambits D1, she tends to prefer to back her playing. I have the advantage of knowing that if she was scum she'd be working hard ot clear a townie, so that's one solid reason that you guys can't share. But if you work through the questions I asked above and earlier in the thread you'll realise that if she was scum there would have been better ways of doing this gambit (primarily not using the person who imprinted her first page). She said she was prepared to die before the end of the game if she needed to, I believe her.
It's like defending you for breaking the game, I think elvis is doing her version of that.
Insert huge wall of text answering this here in post 215Why are so confident that Starbuck is scum and could you explain what the Starbuck&Deathnote connection is?
OK, so what are the reasons why in this particular case it's bad?You say there's nothing inherently scummy about trying to confirm yourself, which is true, but you're ignoring the reasons why in this particular
case some people feel it was. You are correct as far as everything that ek says shouldn't be discredited automatically, though.
Read that bit again, farside - I'm saying the VOTE ON buttonman for trying to break the game is scummy. I'm agreeing with you - button isn't scummy for trying to break the game but the vote on him is.Having said that, voting you for trying to break the setup is scummy as.