SAGA FRONTIER MAFIA (GAME END)

[ZZZX]

VOTE: Fluminator

Albert ya town?
Mollie/Titus ya town?

also

@mod is there any info about weither drixx start as mc is allignment indicative,result from another role,pure flavor or are you unable to answer that question?

Also

MC:ZZZX

I am ZZZX

You MC ZZZX

cus ZZZX

[ZZZX]

Oh
and @Drixx are you town?

[ZZZX]

I am not a Miller

[ZZZX]

I know you tend to be contrary ABR, but why on earth would you actually vote for an MC so early in day one? I can't think of a town motive for it. I'm going to be blunt and say that rationally it feels like scum doing something that nobody will think scum would do so early. You're already hard enough for me to read and trust ... why you gotta make it harder?

I think it would be interesting to have DGB as the Main Character. I want her to live a while in this game so I can play longer with her. There's not much to it other than that.

Quick question. Is there a history of games between you two?

Like if metal (rip ) was here I would vote him for MC but well.... yea

Just askin'. Links 'be nice

pedit: I know a good idea. and i shall explain it in a moment for hte region

[ZZZX]

Also

@MOD can the MC be choosen for a few nights/days in a row?

is the MC voted today's protection valid starting today?

And is there any way for the MC to die"?

[ZZZX]

All of those are answered in the OP (except the first, which I think is PObvious)

Then excuse me to re-read it. I am bad at noticing details sometimes which is why I re-ask obv questions sometimes.

[ZZZX]

hi guys

what is going on

I am currently locked out of our account so I am waiting on titus to sort it out.

Hey mollie

ya town?

Please be town

I wana town bloc you so badly

[ZZZX]

It's disappointing that only Drixx is going to spark up today. Feels like a wasted opportunity. I wanted to go on some adventures :/

True

[ZZZX]

The thing people need to be aware of is that the MC isn't actually completely immune until LYLO. If they choose a party unwisely, the party is able to get through the immunity. That seems like a strong motivator for town to not only make sure the MC stays in town hands, but also to try and organize and keep scum out of the adventure party as much as possible. If the scum end up getting the MC, it also strikes me as a sort of Sophie's Choice for them because if they pull in a town party and slip or in some other way become widely scum read, the party can strip the protection ... but if they pick scum partners in the party, they make the game super easy for us.

This will be a wifom battle

my favorite kind of battles.

[ZZZX]

Just had an idea.

Unlimited lurker purge. That is all.

You've been warned~

no
VOTE: Sensei

I exercise my right to lurk at any moment if real life melts me. For thou I shall fight.

[ZZZX]

also if my understandment is correct we cant vote for an mc this day

meh

[ZZZX]

Yeah. I already said so when I said that I'm essentially a pseudo-IC and claimed my character.

sorry but wrong answer.

I dont believe that flavor will solve games like this mostly

varsoon is one tricky tricky foking mod m8

also ill be honest over explination felt off

first impression not so great. not so bad either though

pedit: are you sure alb?

[ZZZX]

I'm not sure whether it would be a good idea to clarify your 2nd question. No need to make life easy for scum. If they know they can't kill the person, no wasted shots. If they know they can, then they can subvert the mechanic altogether. Even if the prior MC just remains the MC instead of the game completely losing the MC and Party for a day and losing the adventure and spark, your question could lead to all sorts of bad outcomes. I hope Varsoon declines to answer it. I won't be revealing what I have been told privately, and I suggest any MCs who come after me follow my example.

pretty sure scum can i ask that in private anyway so...

I dont see any thing lost here. since its written in teh op and it was just me not understanding it.

[ZZZX]

Be right back guys!

[ZZZX]

Yeah. I already said so when I said that I'm essentially a pseudo-IC and claimed my character.

sorry but wrong answer.

I dont believe that flavor will solve games like this mostly

varsoon is one tricky tricky foking mod m8

also ill be honest over explination felt off

first impression not so great. not so bad either though

pedit: are you sure alb?

You're not obligated to believe me, and in fact you shouldn't just because of flavor. I'm just being open about my character and what I've got. I'll either earn a town read or I won't.

I'd love for you to earn a town read but i'd love for it to be by actions

cant count the number of times I have been hit by flavor being bad. i became immune to flavor claims unless expliclty written in the opening about it. and or for ability comparing

[ZZZX]

Albert, never, NEVER ask Titus to reveal her plans earlier than she wants. My vote definitely stays.

Z agrees

[ZZZX]

I don't know who you are and I don't give two shits. Sit the fuck back down, you don't order anyone around here.

Chill bro. Everything has a time

dont let this go into team mafia again :~

on other notes ABR might be town.

[ZZZX]

Albert, never, NEVER ask Titus to reveal her plans earlier than she wants. My vote definitely stays.

I have no plans yet. I am confused by things atm. One step at a time? *blinks*

~Titus

Wat?

[ZZZX]

Off for some cs. might eb back in an hour (or two) (or three...)

pedit: I meant to just chill. Anger is good at times but this is not the time yet. brah :~ lets be aweasom and win this swiftly mkay?

pedit: Titus....

stahp

i am moments away from voting you.

[ZZZX]

on other notes ABR might be town.

Why?

Gut meta and personal experiance.

although i didnt see enough scum ABR so I might eb wrong. but my gut says otherwise

[ZZZX]

Albert, never, NEVER ask Titus to reveal her plans earlier than she wants. My vote definitely stays.

I have no plans yet. I am confused by things atm. One step at a time? *blinks*

~Titus

Wat?

I cannot plan without knowing the pieces on the board. You will see plans from me. Not just right now. :nod:

Gotta run.

~Titus

Never discuss a plan without a plan. A useless move is a wasted move. which is a good movie not done.

-random guy in 2092. been missing for a while now. last seen 6 months ago (lel)

[ZZZX]

Never discuss a plan without a plan.

Planception

[ZZZX]

I'm trying to figure out what on earth was going through your head when you wrote "pretty sure scum can i ask that in private anyway so..."

its common damn sense. If scum were bad enough not to know that I doubt we have a game at our hands.

[ZZZX]

I'm not sure whether it would be a good idea to clarify your 2nd question. No need to make life easy for scum. If they know they can't kill the person, no wasted shots. If they know they can, then they can subvert the mechanic altogether. Even if the prior MC just remains the MC instead of the game completely losing the MC and Party for a day and losing the adventure and spark, your question could lead to all sorts of bad outcomes. I hope Varsoon declines to answer it. I won't be revealing what I have been told privately, and I suggest any MCs who come after me follow my example.

pretty sure scum can i ask that in private anyway so...

I dont see any thing lost here. since its written in teh op and it was just me not understanding it.

I'm trying to figure out what on earth was going through your head when you wrote "pretty sure scum can i ask that in private anyway so..."

The specific timing of when the previous MC loses their protection and the newly voted MC gains their protection is probably not info that we want scum to have, ergo while I know the answer (at least inasmuch as it applies to me), I see no point in answering it.

I'd appreciate it if you explained what was going on in your head when you said something that looks a lot like you were thinking "pretty sure as scum I can ask that in private anyway so...": I'm totally open to you having an explanation that you were thinking something else, but that literally jumped off the page and smacked me in the face.

There is no reason to know something scum will know about anyway. if we can know it then surely they can know.

town knows less than scum. not the opposite

so

ur nitpicking

and I dont like it frankly.

drixx common sense. COMMON SENSE>.

[ZZZX]

Are you expecting varsoon to go like hey yea here is common information everyone can know!

OH BUT I AM NOT TELLING SCUM WHO KNOW THAT COMMON INFORMATION BECAUSE #reasons?

Drixx come on.

or are you assuming

Scum: Can we kill thsi guy?

Scum2: Maybe let us ask mod?

scum: Nah yolo.

[ZZZX]

Ok we both agree to get this out of the way.

We are Emilia

We are a Miller. Flavour reason because we were falsely accused for the murder of our fiance amd got put into a prison but with the help of some friends escaped.

~Rylai and Lina

why not claim in first post and instead claim later on? did you change your mind or was it a case of forgetness btw?

(just asking atm)

[ZZZX]

Off for some cs. might eb back in an hour (or two) (or three...)

pedit: I meant to just chill. Anger is good at times but this is not the time yet. brah :~ lets be aweasom and win this swiftly mkay?

pedit: Titus....

stahp

i am moments away from voting you.

zzthing ffs give me a chance to thoroughly read the game plz

I didnt tell you not to read the game. but when ur slot posts 4 slots which each contridicts each others it makes me cry. mind hurts too bad.

[ZZZX]

ignoring wont get anything good. afterall this is mafia and we need to know each others allignments..

Mollie i dont think u answered me. are you town?

[ZZZX]

Also gona watch a movie. so u get 2 hours of less ZZZX

for now.

[ZZZX]

@ZZZX We were discussing about it that is why. We concluded it is best to just get it over with.

~Lina

why not claim in first post and instead claim later on? did you change your mind or was it a case of forgetness btw?

well we were talking with each other to make sure both of us are agreed to publish it or not - Hydra stuff

pedit : what lina said

~Rylai

Wow.... there is so much happening here.. I am so confused. I dont know where to begin on day1.

shit this what happens when i come back after months..

And

Varson

What a lovely setup, i dont know where to begin to appreciate your efforts for this setup. God bless you[/b]

don't you mean krishna

and you know I am going to be looking at your reads so there is no way I am going to let you play dumb cos I know for a fact that you aren't!

I have missed you arc.

zzthing, there is going to be some adjustment with this hydra. you know titus and are like night and day so it shld be expected that there is gonna be some dissonance. we have a system worked out and when she posted I texted her and was like "remember our agreement!". give us some space plz to work things out a bit.

ignoring wont get anything good. afterall this is mafia and we need to know each others allignments..

Mollie i dont think u answered me. are you town?

I did answer you zzthing, it is in my iso! it is like the second post I made I think.

for the good of humanity i am going to mostly ignore him. I already have a read on him anyway he is a town lean cos when abr is scum he is positively saintly when he town he doesn't give a shit who he pisses off.

At all of those posts: Mkay.

Just make sure to get everything under control people

[ZZZX]

if mollie and DGB are scum. this is GG.

Why?

Noone of Mollie/DGB have obv towned them selves so much that they cant be scum. assuming otherwise is hurtful for the town. this is page 9.

Aka im not like this remark honestly

[ZZZX]

Oh boy. I forgot how fast these threads go.

except this game is relatively slow compared to some other games i had recently..

[ZZZX]

ZZZX is the only person I think I've seen before so far and he's already posted more in this game than all my other games with him combined. I think that's a good thing?

Lel.

Originally before the grand lurk/uni incident I was regarded as one of the spammiest players. which is what made me... me.

Lurking just doesnt suit me at all. and this spam is what gives me the power to read and plan.

But its not the most allignment indicative for me I believe. Just saying

[ZZZX]

Also Mollie I don't think I have pushed for a town bloc since Team Mafia after the scarring events of mentioned game.

Our block in TM helped. but that was another game from yours.

[ZZZX]

I need to start keeping track of things

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
Albert B. Rampage
Drixx
DiamondSentinel
Drunken Pirates (Titus & Pirate Mollie)
Spifflop (Hiplop & Spiffeh)
The Cool Cucumbers (wgeurts & cerberus v666) >>> also awesome, just sayin'

NEUTRAL

Rylai and Lina (Shiro & Frozen Angel) >>> leaning town but have misgivings

SCUM

Fluminator
ArcAngel9 (too much schmoozing)

LURKERS, LEPERS and UNWASHED MASSES

Klingoncelt
Sharky5x
Yimmy
Wickedestjr
Skybird
CooLDoG
MaxwellPuckett
Yosarian2
Lowkey (Lowell & Hinduragi)
Sensei
ZZZX

>>>ZZZZX
>>>LURKER
>>>TOP POSTER



I am starting to doubt you are not reading this game dbg and you are applying la sterotype

[ZZZX]

I can't believe you've put me in with the players who haven't posted yet, and ZZZX. I think I'm actually crying.

Am confused if I should read this as :

Why did you put me and ZZZX

or

Why did you put me with ZZZX



Eitherway yes. that readlist was bad.

[ZZZX]

Cucumber hydra is prop town.

[ZZZX]

I HATE THIS POST. Cerb is doing WAY too well establishing reads for my liking. Cerb hates day one, absolutely disgusts it. This is a guy who spends entire phases not voting because he can't come up with associations. This post does not read like that. Why? probably because he knows who is town and who isn't.

VOTE: cerb

I understand flummer thing but I honestly think that might be scumdriven a bit, specifically by cerb. I don't like this at all. I'm behind a page but league game just started and panzer is mad at me. will get back to this in 30 mins or so

interesting point of view should I say.
do you have game links for him when he does what you said he does?

[ZZZX]

... on other notes ABR might be town.

You can't be serious.

ZZZX is always serious

and town...

maybe the former is only true for all cases

but both are true here

[ZZZX]

Which head are you LiquidLeoq errr Shiro?
Rylai or Lina?

Already answered Rylai = Frozen Angel / Lina =Shiro

The miller hydra is weird. They claim miller modifier. Straight up is that gravedigger, miller, universal miller? Also, why did they only ask Mollie for her meta when there are two heads.

We did. we have a miller modifier.

because I'm "Frozen Angel" and I never played with her before. I played with you Titus! remember me?

going to eat breakfast ... will be here for sharing my couple of reads and notes so far!

~Rylai

Why do you i feel that the next time someone asks which head is who yours gone expload

[ZZZX]

He is kinda dead zzx. Can answer.
~Lina

What do you mean?

[ZZZX]

'allo ZZZX. Let's talk
Do you have any scum reads or suspicions right now?
~wgeurts

Suspicious of Drixx

Kinda scumreading DGB

Waiting for like 5-6 people to start posting.

Town reading:
TItus/Mollie
ABR
DS slightly.

[ZZZX]

He got mod-killed.

Did I miss something...?

[ZZZX]

Weird. I didnt read when it happened.

[ZZZX]

Spifflop's slot has been compromised.
In order to continue forward with a fair game (and after discussion with all parties involved), I have no other choice but to modkill Spifflop's slot.
I ask that the players involved in this issue stay quiet about it until post-game.
The day phase will continue.

Spifflop was Mod-Killed on Day 1. They were

Red Okonogi

, aligned via mod-kill as a

Neutral Survivor

.
Red Okonogi's full role functions as follows:

Spoiler:

PLAYER NAME - RED OKONOGI

A super hero fighting against evil

Damn that Black X...

You must follow the hero's code of Honor. You may not talk about any of the powers featured on this rolecard, or this post restriction. If pushed to claim, you may claim as 'Red Okonogi - A Boy Fighting Against Evil', with no abilities. If you ever reveal that you can gain these abilities or if you break this post restriction in any way, you will lose access to ALKAIZER CHANGE. ALKAIZER CHANGE! You may only use this ability during the Night Phase and you are not Alkaizer. You may use this ability in addition to any other ability that you have. You may only use this ability if no other player is voting for you at the end of the previous Day Phase. You are now Alakaizer - The Hero of Justice. If any player accuses you of gaining abilities and you are not under these effects, you may not use 'ALKAIZER CHANGE!' If any day ends and at least one player is voting for you, you lose the effects of 'ALKAIZER CHANGE!' Ray Sword You may only use this ability during the Day Phase and if you are Alkaizer. Send me the name of one player. They will be voted twice with a vote that reads 'RAY SWORD'. Al-Pheonix You may only use this ability during the Night Phase and if you are Alkaizer. Target one player. If they are not aligned with town, they will die. Re-Al-Pheonix You may only use this ability during the Night Phase and if you are Alkaizer. If you used Al-Pheonix at night and you are targeted by a killing or blocking action, you do not die and are not blocked. Instead, your Al-Pheonix ability fails and you kill the player who targeted you. You will be informed if you ever use Re-Al-Pheonix, but you will not know which player triggered it. Final Crusade You may only use this ability during the Night Phase and if you are Alkaizer. You permanently take one less vote to lynch. All other players in the game are bulletproof during the night that you use this ability. If you are in a Party, you may have this ability only affect the other members of your party. Fade to Sepia. The End. You are aligned with the Protagonists (town). You win when all threats to the Protagonists are eliminated and at least one Protagonist-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

literally stoped reading the thread to answer a question 3 posts before this.

Ouch

[ZZZX]

This was 100% a player based error.
We will discuss it post-game. Trust me, the modkill was the last action I wanted to take in this situation, but the slot was compromised.
Please trust in me.

In the Varsoon we trust.

[ZZZX]

Ouch. Instead of being a jerk, can you explain why my playstyle is shitty? If not, I have absolutely zero desire to talk to you for the rest of the game.

Not doing anything right now I assume.

[ZZZX]

Anyway done here for now.

[ZZZX]

'allo ZZZX. Let's talk
Do you have any scum reads or suspicions right now?
~wgeurts

Suspicious of Drixx

Kinda scumreading DGB

Waiting for like 5-6 people to start posting.

Town reading:
TItus/Mollie
ABR
DS slightly.

I'm interested in why your suspicious of both as they both are town reads of mine to some extent.
~wgeurts

Drixx just feels too nitpicky and too forced. Might be me making much more out of it but its the least string I can see right now

that in addition to gut scumreading DGB.

I just cant explain it.

-Reading on (damn so many pagesovernight

[ZZZX]

Hmm zzx what didn't you like about Dgb entrance?

readlist is random. too many people in both town and scum cats. and gut.

[ZZZX]

hey zzthing, this was my second post!

missed it. Sorry!

[ZZZX]

Nothing that jumped out at me like the hammer thing with Flum. ZZZX is posting a lot more than I've seen him post before. But I haven't seen anything in his posts that makes me think he is scum. I like Drunken Pirates for town so far.

if you saw me at games like jungle republic. Ud say im not posting here.

had first amount of posts in that game. basically 9 man game with 68% of posts belonging to me. with next person having like 11%

won it because of that though
long story.

[ZZZX]

jesus, you and your lurker tells, goddamn, this game started yesterday.

still 2 days is enough for an entrance.

[ZZZX]

I love waking up to useless spam. ZZZX, why on Earth are you spamming like this?

to win the game. I am not even spamming really.

[ZZZX]

>>>ZZZZX
>>>LURKER
>>>TOP POSTER



I am starting to doubt you are not reading this game dbg and you are applying la sterotype

I am starting to doubt you are not reading this game ZZZX because the heading clearly says "Lurkers,

lepers and unwashed masses

" - clearly meaning that the list of players below it are not all lurkers.

Also you're scum.

that doesnt make sense.

but cool

your scum. literally you are omgus without saiyng its omgus. i am a friend of honest full omgus.

[ZZZX]

Hey Yossy

ZZZX is scum

He accuses me of calling him a lurker when it's clear that my list isn't only lurkers. Then he says I am not reading the game, LOL.

[ZZZX]

mollie hydra is not scum. I am not sure if i am following mollie meta but it is my gut read based their play in this game.

they dont appear to be scum but i plan to look further into it.

[ZZZX]

Interesting.... What schmoozing you're referring?? Becuz i called you a troll??

DGB is bullshiting and OMGUSing without even saying they are. non direct shit must be extrerminated

[ZZZX]

I just want you pple to know that if you don't hear from titus it is not because i drowned her in a bathtub and i am currently looking up locations to bury the body where it won't be found its cos she is busy.

Pirates Die at la sea matey

[ZZZX]

I haven't been accused of active lurking yet I don't think? Unless you are?
I'll give my reads as I get them. I still don't even have a mental image of a lot of the players yet though.

No. Not active lurking I'd say. more of a "please do more" kind of read.

[ZZZX]

Oh nearly forgot btw.
VOTE: DGB

[ZZZX]

DGB, thoughts on zzz and his little page 5 thing where he gets mad at drixx? I can see the scum standpoint but it's p good.

Not reading and making up BS over nothing to fluff up posts is scummy.

"not reading" includes responding to every single post in the game. since I am not reaidng but responding.. somehow

yes Its my untold skill of feeling what the post is about without reaidng it

FEAR ME M8 /s...

making up BS? quote some BS i made up.

somehow you seem to be the only person crapping that out of here. Most people agree with me with most points i said

and I am using that to... fluff up posts? I am doing tons more than you ever did. So just accept that you got caught. I have faced people who tried harder to mislynch me. and if I know something that is for this game I wont be mislynched like that before i catch one... or two or three scums (and so far I think i got one!)

[ZZZX]

Oh nearly forgot btw.
VOTE: DGB

LOL I was wondering, with all that BS talk, your scummy little self was voting Sensei. Scummy little chicken.

"omg i was voting someone in rms. scum"

...

[ZZZX]

Oh right, I gave him town point for his post 94.

The rest of his play isn't great though. His attempt to attack Drixx feels weak and kind of fake. And his attack pn DGB seems dodgy. Don't see evidence of real scumhunting either for the most part.

Yos, you think dgb is town here?

if you think hes town your wrong

pro tip: hes not.

[ZZZX]

Your nose is pinging me so hard ABR

This isn't a hentai fanfic, stop.

[ZZZX]

Finally caught up!

MC: Wickedestjr

I like you here.

[ZZZX]

Drixx can have a party, just not today. He doesn't have a passive that prevents him forming a party.

pretty sure he said its about his character. unless i misunderstood it.

[ZZZX]

will read more later.

[ZZZX]

Drixx can have a party, just not today. He doesn't have a passive that prevents him forming a party.

pretty sure he said its about his character. unless i misunderstood it.

We've already been through this. Recently, actually. Read the thread in its entirety before posting again please.

I will see.

[ZZZX]

In uni atm. pages doubled (!) but I will try to quickly skim them and answer important posts when I am back. I appoligize for anything I might miss.

-Z

[ZZZX]

Just started reading(actually truth be told will start as soon as I get outta bathroom and prepare my pc~). Will gather notes and try to post some walls instead of spamming because if i reply to each post alone then you will get 11 pages of me.

noone wants 11 pages of me.

-~Reads on~-

I want 11 pages of you,
in full color, too.

[ZZZX]

I want 11 pages of you,
in full color, too.

<

3

~still reading. just got this pedit which updating the thread

[ZZZX]

@#680 My playstyle is mine. This playstyle I am using is one of my best. - and the one i enjoy best - and it gives results. I am not changing it. I dont get why you wouldnt like it but its here to stay
@#681 You are giving too little. Too little stuff to read and analyse. I still dont know what your read even is. In other words I have no idea what you are doing.
@#683 I like this post.
@#684 I find that providing info. (even as a stream of posts) is pretty helpful. And lets face it. posting a big number of shorter posts is more readable in the end. and is easier. I dont usually have time for editing and stuff. But I nearly finished my Laplace transformation lessions and stuff so I am doing some extra stuff
@#685 I thought you are scum reading me so why are you voting flum instead of me? Also I still want you dead here.
@#686 I still dont think you answered the biggest problem of not engaging and providing info.
@#688 I agree with the first half of this post. But the 2nd half is... weird? Like yea its a random comment which is fine and all. But no in the end the reason wasnt only adventuring. Lol.
@#689 ... What?
@#691 ... What What? Lynching this... thing already.
@#692 This I like.

End of page 28: I Figured that I actually missed a few hundred posts before this. But I will check them out later. Hope i didnt miss much!

~reads on.

@#702/3 Which game are you talking about? Did R&L not defend self at all at that game? And I dont find the last 11 posts scummy at all honestly. Litearlly null at worse/best
While R&L vs ABR was crappy and unreadable. and surprisingly short.

Moving on

@#710 lemme check the 100 pages as I missed hte claim but sometimes if you have a strong/reactive role/etc you might want to lower/increase ur scum hunting to become less of a target. Not saying this is teh case here but I am showing you examples. F.e when i was beloved prince/ss in a game my style was differant from my doc game which is differant from my vanilla game. Ofcourse I can (and prob others can) modify our meta/playstyle to match that. But it still exists.

@#711 wat?
@#715 DGB is scum. Also what do you mean by I said something? I honestly cant remeber asking anything after the last question that got answered.
@#717 I agree about the null part. I still dont get the extreme push on R&L. Hmmm...
@#720 I legit am about to start scum reading you. This is weird as hell. And I am not following any of your train of thoughts at this point..
@#724 Forth! Woha. What other languages do you speak?

Page 29 end. This was... interesting?

@#728/9 Hmmm.... If that is true then maybe it can be interesting.
@#738 I agree on the weird part definitly
@#743 that is actually an interesting think to say. That would be so conveint I am hestitating aobout it in reality. Isnt it?
@#745 Wait okey but... Klingon? Cant say I expected that vote

Page 30 done.Nothing much to add other than R&L being... weirdish and ABR being so random.

Here is something to digest while id o the rest. THIS WILL TAKE FOREVERRRR

[ZZZX]

ftr in case die or something, zzthing needs to be followed up on.

wat

[ZZZX]

@760 Self meta is love . Self meta is life. And Self meta is null as a bull on a pull.

R&L slot was just brkoen. lolwat

@#767 I dont like the defending here kinda. so... well idk
Page 31 was suprisingly bland. Hopefully all next pages are kind enough to do that.
@#777 DS can be town for now. Shira can do a little down the scummy sea.
@#785/6/7 W...What? what just happened
@#789 LMAO you know its bad when the person Em selves go Wat on you... WHAT LEL GOD DAMN IT I WILL QUOTE THIS SHIT

@Lina No, but your other posts are quite clearly scum. That I'm of consensus with others on. Sorry.

Damn phone accidentally posted before I wrote.

Yea but you know there is that problem that you know. We are town.

And dumb stuff like that are excuses that scum will use when we flip town to go

Lol herp derp
They were so scummy


As I said the case on FA sums up to

Weird and OMG self meta must be scum.


P.EDIT

@Ds

.......

Wha?

P.edit 2

Whaaaa?!


~Lina

I cant get enough of this. Ever

Thank for you giving my a smile to my face.


Page 32 ended. and


Wat

Wat

WAT

@#802.. Wat?

God this is giving me the chills by now...

I am surprised about the DS sudden full defence. I dont know how to think of it. AT ALL.

@#815 there is no reason to hint at stuff. Either you give info or you dont. You might have somehow given a scum the hint and literally gave us a nice OH SHIT moment.

Page 33 over. Kinda hard to follow the ABR vs R&L again. but i have a feeling its TvT. slight chance of it being SvS. Not TvS as far as I can see. but if there was one scum on there I'd say its R&L from that exchange . But that I am seeing R&L scummy enough for now.

Also From here on I will go fast skiming unless I reach something interesting.

Page 34: Nothing here

page 35: What are you even saying here DGB? Nothing else interesitng here. But i want someone to drive me through klington. IDGI

Page 36: Yes ABR I would. I still wana MC myself cus ZZZx is aweasom but I can go for the 2nd best option if needed. ANd woha klington catching fire isnt he.

#ABR 908 Are you town or scum reading R&L i dont even...?

Cooldog is chill. I have that bad gut feeling about yossa. Might be because our opinions about this game are the polar opposites so far.

Page 37/8 done with above notes.

@#951 I am disappointed for 2 reasons:
-No ZZZX
-DGB mc? REALLY? just... STOP.
P39 is done

Just finished P40 and nothing to add. interesting information about the choosing of 2nd MC after death.

I will tkae a break until 2moro then. Kinda caught up not badly if you consider I didnt even do it on thje week end.

[ZZZX]

Any question before i just go to sleep

[ZZZX]

hey zzthing

I know you know how to link posts so why did you not do it?

too lazy. and its 1:02 PM
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/u ... ates/dubai for referance lel

also if you want I can do that later. but not now.

[ZZZX]

im literally staying awake for 15 minutes or so until this cs go match on twitch ends.

[ZZZX]

Here. Couldnt post yesterday but the week end is coming. but that doesnt matter cus I will do another 20-30 pages catch up today (and possibly finishing all pages to catch up!)

[ZZZX]

Up to about 60 right now. will make all info in one huge wall tomorrow as i finish all last 20 pages (or 40 since thats the pace we are going)!

[ZZZX]

Up to about 60 right now. will make all info in one huge wall tomorrow as i finish all last 20 pages (or 40 since thats the pace we are going)!

It's hard to get a read on you when you're always so detached from this game. When are you going to be around in real time?

I am sorry for being hard to connect the last few days. But I will here after 3 hours and most of tomorrow.

-Z

[ZZZX]

I am bad with times, (and life kind of hates me...)

thus tomorrow it is.

I appologize again. But at this pace I am confident I will be ready tomorrow and fully caught up

[ZZZX]

well it sure is flying.

20 minutes/1hour of quick recap and super fast skimming. will not reply to each and every post on the way. what i ask will prob be answered 10-50 pages later anyway.

[ZZZX]

Ok fuck that I am not reading the whole thing.

give me 10 to read last 5 pages and then I will see. I already have a read state already in mind

[ZZZX]

im legit surprised to see that in the 30 pages i skipped titus/mollie now scum read abr.

damn what did i miss.

[ZZZX]

2451

[ZZZX]

WHY AINT IT WORKING

now I have to go through the pages manually.

[ZZZX]

Rylai, Errant, Sensei? Would you shes tears if Max were lynched?

Are you sure this is the correct post, friend?

[ZZZX]

Also for the fact that i lurked a few days and missed half the pages yet I am in the middle of the posting range really calls something about the activity of some players. this is literally 4-5 guys just arguing with each others right now.

[ZZZX]

ABR / Mollie.titus

can you both explain to me why you kind fo suddenly scum read each others right now.?

pedit: lemme see.

[ZZZX]

i get some stuff but nothing like this half passive scum reading of each others. its kind of weird.

[ZZZX]

Let me make a list of my current reads.

Probably town based on play:
ABR
ErrantParabola
Drunken Pirates (Titus & Pirate Mollie)
Lowkey (Lowell & Hinduragi)

Probably town based on role:
Drixx
Itlepip
Skybird

Likely town:
Rylai and Lina (Shiro & Frozen Angel)
DrippingGoofball
CooLDoG

Leaning town:
Fluminator
The Cool Cucumbers (wgeurts & cerberus v666)
Sensei

LINE OF DEATH: anyone below this line I am willing to lynch if necessary

Null/mixed reads
DiamondSentinel (if we do decide we want him dead, we'll have to play around his possible role to minimize risk)
MaxwellPuckett

Lurkers
Wickedestjr (is about to be replaced, probably shoudl wait for replacement first)
ZZZX
Gale Wing Srock

Really scummy:
Klingon

I am not really lurking though. ... soo....

also reading atm.. but i like last few posts is rylai so much

[ZZZX]

And Rylai, you can not possibly considering following Albert after all the crap he tried to pull on your initial wagon.

I never said I will follow him

I said keeping him alive and putting him in MC is a win win.

Are you blind to see that fact?

~Rylai

I am more on the town - read sid eof albert so i dont midn voting him but i dont get why you would want to put him up there if you think he is scum.

like.... why?

[ZZZX]

I can see you want the guy trying to kill you dead. so that makes sense doesnt it..?

[ZZZX]

I am not really lurking though. ... soo....

also reading atm.. but i like last few posts is rylai so much

Ok. Let me ask you the same question i asked klingon.. It's roughly 5 days until deadline. Who should we lynch?

I don't care if you have or haven't read the whole thread yet, what do you think right now based on what you have read?

the person I am voting. DGB

[ZZZX]

Other than that Rylias got me sold of shiro as well.

[ZZZX]

You've been voting DGB since post 646, I think, and I think that was just OMGUS because you didn't like where she put you on her list.

You haven't even mentioned her in ages.

Is that really all you've got?

ZZZX is lazy scum, LOL.

I have explained my stuff a few times

its not omgus. if it was I would tell you it was

Time for me to redo a full iso of that scum boi to get a full lovely case

[ZZZX]

Am I the only one reading ZZZX as scum? Cuz that's a really magical touch I got, since I am sure I am right.

Thus said Titus ages ago when she mislynched me

she was scum

I rest my case

[ZZZX]

thats legit interesting post mollie/titus. Will read it in depth soon. I need a cup of coffe and to end this game I am watching.

pedit: I dont look bad. am bad. or even appear to be bad. mates

[ZZZX]

DGB talk to me about this. I know I have my pride but Mollie says you're really good. :nod: I am just getting the feeling town is FoSing each other to death and scum are like oooooh me too.

LOL <3 ILU Titus

Have you ever been scum? Yes? A few times? Have you noticed how scum get all nervous and worried about looking INCONSISTENT? There is no player more unnaturally consistent than ZZZX.

Guess who didnt play enough with town ZZZX?

I am the guy most known for my confidence when i get a plan and/or when i feel like it. I can say that I am one of the players who is most skilled at configuring my game to whatever state i want it to. Thus your read to me for being consistent... The fuck?

[ZZZX]

How about we have a show off here DGB.

Fite me and I will show all your secrets

[ZZZX]

How about I give you a start. What is my scum-intent in pushing for you right now when you prob wont be lynched and I can push for more people who might be town and more dangerous? Why not :"night kill you" silently and stay town read for example?

[ZZZX]

DGB. Where have thou went? Come and fight me.

[ZZZX]

So I am not bothered by zzzx being consistent. If I was to be bothered by anything it would be that I do not know his stance on anyone but you. :nod:

I am pretty clear in my reads though.

Town reads

You
ABR(still didnt read your post so this is pre your post. No idea if tiw ill change)
Cucumber
DS

Scum reads
DGB
DGB
DGB
Shiro slightly

anyone else is on slight shades of both. slight enough not to be worth talking about.

[ZZZX]

Complementary En Taro Zeratul here

[ZZZX]

Other than that Rylias got me sold of shiro as well.

Huh?

Aka i read your case and point and thus I am starting to suspect em

?

[ZZZX]

WAIT I MEAN SENSEI

NOT SHIRO

FAK

LOL

[ZZZX]

This is a big problem with your approach. I think DGB is town. If you're not engaging the rest of us on facts, you're not going to get your thoughts memorable. I don't have a problem with DGB or Shiro and it makes me wanna put you on mute despite townreading you. I legit don't get your scumreads. Rylai is hard town for me. DGB is town because I saw only one logical inconsistency and I cannot remember what it was (and that's before Mollie also saying DGB is town). There are more than two scum even if I am wrong about my scumteam. Jump in. Sort the people "not worth talking about". This helps me read you.

Misspelled Sensei as shiro. My appoligies.

I will explain DGB soon in a full ZZZX style pbpA

for others I really am not finding enough stuff to push for. Thus I want people like you that actually engage me. Its one of the reasons I get to read you fine. Because you do.

[ZZZX]

When DGB makes that misspelling mistake a reason for pushing me know that you heard it here first.

[ZZZX]

also one of the biggets scum read reasons on DGB is that he is passively tunneling me (if that is a thing). He isnt going for it. If you think I am scum make a case and push the fuck out of me if you were town. then I'd prob analyse your push and get your allingment corrected.

instead complementary "oh zzzx might be scum lel nyone else thinks so or should i back off cus i'd blow my cover?" every 10 pages.

[ZZZX]

AM I wrong?

[ZZZX]

>>>ZZZZX
>>>LURKER
>>>TOP POSTER



I am starting to doubt you are not reading this game dbg and you are applying la sterotype

I am starting to doubt you are not reading this game ZZZX because the heading clearly says "Lurkers,

lepers and unwashed masses

" - clearly meaning that the list of players below it are not all lurkers.

Also you're scum.

Hey Yossy

ZZZX is scum

He accuses me of calling him a lurker when it's clear that my list isn't only lurkers. Then he says I am not reading the game, LOL.

Oh nearly forgot btw.
VOTE: DGB

LOL I was wondering, with all that BS talk, your scummy little self was voting Sensei. Scummy little chicken.

You've been voting DGB since post 646, I think, and I think that was just OMGUS because you didn't like where she put you on her list.

You haven't even mentioned her in ages.

Is that really all you've got?

ZZZX is lazy scum, LOL.

Am I the only one reading ZZZX as scum? Cuz that's a really magical touch I got, since I am sure I am right.

DGB talk to me about this. I know I have my pride but Mollie says you're really good. :nod: I am just getting the feeling town is FoSing each other to death and scum are like oooooh me too.

LOL <3 ILU Titus

Have you ever been scum? Yes? A few times? Have you noticed how scum get all nervous and worried about looking INCONSISTENT? There is no player more unnaturally consistent than ZZZX.

not 10 pages since I am mistaken. But enough times to be a clear scum-read worthy

look at the above.

Look me in the god damn eye and tell me this is town scum hunting and pushing for lynches and not someone who is setting up future day 2-4 lynches?

DO IT

ZZZX says as he moves the knight to its position. Waiting for the response. Thus the chess board witness the begining of a battle.

[ZZZX]

You have 19 minutes to show up DBG or I am just going to sleep. Just saying.

[ZZZX]

Fun fact: The guy who is the 7th highest poster in this game is a lurker btw

Thats me it seems

you heard it here first.

[ZZZX]

How about I give you a start. What is my scum-intent in pushing for you right now when you prob wont be lynched and I can push for more people who might be town and more dangerous? Why not :"night kill you" silently and stay town read for example?

I already explained that it's to appear consistent. It trumps everything else.

The fuck does that mean? Do you want me to get you 150+ town games for random people here who are consistant as town?

[ZZZX]

i scumhunt

while being really consistent.

That is naturally consistent.

Then there is unnaturally consistent. Like one single scum read lasting all day and mostly cricket posts for the rest.

Then you have ZZZX in team mafia
where i tried to death tunnel a guy for about 550 posts

he flipped scum

we won the game

Mollie played with me. Cucumber did. many others did.

And this excuse of following my scum read and the rest being crap. Well you did nothing worth of being town read. Why would I magically town read you? I like to focus on my targets too. spreading scum reads too thin gives no results.

and I am pretty clear on my stance about all the game. Dont give me that shit about me not contriputing in my "other posts" (which are all my posts minus 3 or four of them about you?)

[ZZZX]

Now, here's where I get to tell you that DGB plays differently than we do ZZZX. Such comments are common for DGB and Mollie. DGB is logically correct in her first reply to you. You saw lurker and got offended. She clarified that she's not calling you a lurker. 648 is DGB expressing her indignation that you were avoiding her. DGB and Mollie approach the game from a more emotional place and will manage the game the game accordingly. I generally struggle with that. She's stating you're scum, and she's got her eye on you.

I know I am probably minimizing the impact of my wall, by posting and I can hear Mollie saying "SIT ON YOUR KEYS OMG!" because DGB and Mollie are game managers better than me but I see the opportunity to get two townreads to get along, forceclose future mislynches and get my thought pattern, I would be a fool not to take it.

~Titus

@titus I am well aware of that. But I was not the only person who thought that was only lurkers. at least 2 others agreed on that point. the over reaction was overdone. I like to argue with my reads. I read people better when I am trying to lynch the fuck out of them

[ZZZX]

When DGB makes that misspelling mistake a reason for pushing me know that you heard it here first.

This is your argument? I am scum because of actions you predict I will do in the future? While trying to beat people to the punch on your own mistake?

Didnt I tell that you will make a way to make an ARGUMENT OUT OF THIN AIR THAT HAS NO VALUE

let me help you here

leave this post that is apparent as a joke. is a joke unless you are slow on jokes. and

ANSWER MY GODDAMN QUESTIONS INSTEAD?

[ZZZX]

When i said that you heard how he will make a scum read out of a shitpost that has no value in scum reading. I was correct

you did hear it here first lol

and i already explained its not the main reason i am scum hunting you in case you are not getting it yet.

[ZZZX]

AM I wrong?

Yeah

I like to focus on other scums that are more likely to reach a consensus today. For you, there will be other days.

You better NK me... if I have a vig kill you won't be there tomorrow.

SO you are admitting having no case on me and wanting to lynch me later?

I dont see you hard pushing for any case. and that is what that is

either admit that you are wrong or give a case
I dont work with those damn ambitious answers or however they spell em

[ZZZX]

Even if you think each other are scum, engaging scum on their reads can tell you the beats scum want to push.

I don't discuss with scum.

I tried titus. I tried to see him as town

But I cant with posts like this shit

This is so sad.

Do I have to say how this is one of my rare scum tells in my opinions? I consider this as a major scum tell in an arguement with me.

VOTE: DGB

because voting you once is enough

[ZZZX]

is not enough*

[ZZZX]

Like I am giving you a chance to go all on and attack me

scum read me

there is no reason to refuse as town since you scum read me. Prove that I am scum.

You either convince people that I am scum or discover I am town

But I can sense you are afraid

For I am one who shall hunt you down.

[ZZZX]

Oh wait you wrote your case in #2979 in this page.

yea /s

pedit: ambiguous yes. Thank you

and I am not hellbent on lynching him

at least I wasnt before now.

[ZZZX]

DGB I am giving you one last chance to prove your self town. Either fight me or conceed.

You cannot break the desert or the protoss

... mostly the protoss

[ZZZX]

Like I am giving you a chance to go all on and attack me

scum read me

there is no reason to refuse as town since you scum read me. Prove that I am scum.

You either convince people that I am scum or discover I am town

But I can sense you are afraid

For I am one who shall hunt you down.

DGB is not a caser. Never has been, never will be.

~Titus

I have seen him do better than you are scum hurr durr after over 80 pages of not mentioning me.

That much i did.

[ZZZX]

Because if he is not even trying to do anything right now except bullshit then I have nothing to do here and I will just go back and sleep. I am not wasting my time on a lost cause.

[ZZZX]

@Maxwell what are you current reads looking like? I never got to understand your reads by the way.

[ZZZX]

If you two are hellbent

I am just

*shaking my head*

I guess this is your conformation that you wont recognize any of my questions or posts and just bullshit?

[ZZZX]

Titus for you sake I am listening here

What kind of magic lantern do I need to open up DGB?

I really want to believe that he is town because of your read. But he is not giving me a chance to.

If you want to have me do something I dont mind. But Do you seriously think its not a blatant anti town action?

Unless he is some kind of super sucm hunter whos random scum read in page 2something is good enough not to discuss with a target for ever because 'es scum. because thats -dumb as fuck and anti town- at best.

[ZZZX]

Anyway I will stay for 9 more minutes as i make some tea then I am leaving. if you have anything to say go ahead.

-Z

[ZZZX]

Even if you think each other are scum, engaging scum on their reads can tell you the beats scum want to push.

I don't discuss with scum.

This is objectively bad. ZZZX'S vote was justified imo.

Titus: even with that meta, this just sounds like DGB is flat out refusing to engagr with ZZZX. That's just avoiding information.

fos:MaxwellPuckett

Do you have anything else to say about this situation? on other news you were scum reading me as well

so are we going to pull a dgb here or can you pull an explination out of nowhere? I find it fishy as fuck you go through all those pages that you should relate to in some way and you ignore all of them for... that post.

[ZZZX]

Anti-town doesn't mean scum. I have felt DGB has been anti town with her strategies sometimes but anti-town is rarely the objective word we mean it to be. Someone talking strictly in terms of game management is going to seem anti-town to me. Someone lies in the thread, especially ABR, it's hard to sit back and hold my punches. Mollie is right thought that highlighting each lie as he said it wasn't helpful but waiting until I could see the strategy and stopped me from too bad confbias/sounding like a loon despite ABR's consistent discrediting machine.

the magic word is "at best"

for the town to do thier magic of unique abilities and ways it needs trust and town to create groups to work together

if you both ways dying wouldnt even be bad. I have died a few times as a lynch because I was useless sometimes. and I honestly blame noone but myself for em.

So in a tl;dr

if you dont want to win and ignore all reachouts.

up to the noose you go

[ZZZX]

And thus I call this night.

[ZZZX]

wanted to check this thread before i sleep and


When the fuck did I say dgb is scum for scum reading me?

I legit said that if he is town i want him to scum read me for a reason or push me or something


I am scum reading him for passively scum reading without acting and not trying to get my allignment. his read on me is as good as an rvs vote at this stage. ALl i have to say.

[ZZZX]

Anyway good night for real now.

[ZZZX]

Sick as fuck. Can't post

This feels so damn shitty ://

[ZZZX]

holy donkey tits. what the fuck? reading now. Long ass week-end with severe time-dilation going down. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. Anyway. time to go fucking read some shit.

Sick as fuck. Can't post

This feels so damn shitty ://

I hate both of these posts.

Sorry mollie but

fuck you

being unable to move for about 24 hours with intense pain is one thing I'd have without caring what the fuckign shit you can think about it. So
yea

fuck you.

also on other notes I hace been caught up for a while now and I am not missing anything. is a simple im sick worth of a shit reaction like this?

[ZZZX]

I highly doubt you have the support for a dgb lynch.

Well thats the reason I am showing people why she is scum.. to gain the support or to get the allignment corrected if I am wrong.

[ZZZX]

also checking the few pages before that which i missed

people are so goddamn dumb

excuse me as I make a wall to make fun of all misreps and dumb comments on my play.

[ZZZX]

@3023 Yea sure. How to discredit a guy? call him an ultra newb or sometihng. And No. I consider myself somewhat of an expert at best or a good player at worse for mafia. And I just put you as a next person to lynch after DGB flips scum. so rejoice!
@3025 I didnt scum read him at the first vote. But overtime I evolved into a scum read.
@3027 You DO know that arguing with !scummetal is the reason I personally caught him? and that is also teh reason I convinced everyone to lynch him instead of me right? I have never gotten a negative result out of arguing with scum. Ever.
@3028 Wrong. If you plainly argue then maybe. But if you build up a few major points and witness the reactions. Then you would see things from a greater point.
@3030 FOR THE BAZILLIONITH TIME I HAVE MY READS THERE> RIGHT FUCKING OUT THERE. AND NO IT WOULD DO MUCH. BUT GUESS WHO WANTS TO AVOID IT HERE?

-Commertial BREAK- FOR PEOPLE SAYING ARGUING WITH SCUM WOULD GIVE THEM A WAY TO GET OUT OF IT. WHO will get out of it. Me? I am not being glboaly scumread. and noone is scumreading dgb for some reason (Are people trust in dgb way too much?) so this is so shitty as a reasoning. Its sad.

@3033 *facepalm*
@3034 Just... No... enough misreps you... ugh

*facepalm*

@3036 What? (even though we agreed this is not something scummy but...) What?

*facepalm*
just

*facepalm*
@3037 guess the period I havent mentioned him is the period i WAS FUCKING CATCHING UP FFS? While DGB didnt talk about me for a year (or in other words since page 10)
@3041 so you are saying that you are sure beyond doubty that I am scum

right

@3047 It sure takes a replacement who has not been brainwashed by wishy wishy DGB bullshit to see that those posts warrent a scum read at least.

*INSERT THANK YOU GIF HERE*
on other news the new guy is doing some good stuff,


then for the next 3 pages suddenly noone started talking about me or DGB.

This game is on my nerves. Noone has any clear "read" they are giving about me and I am being fuckign ignored. And simple reasoning that should be as simple as 1+1=2 is being called wrong.

Like what the fuck

I am fucking... I dont even knowe. like

Why the fuckign hell?

mini readlist next post in 5 minutes.

[ZZZX]

DiamondSentinel
Klingoncelt
ErrantParabola
The Cool Cucumbers (wgeurts & cerberus v666)
Drunken Pirates (Titus & Pirate Mollie)
Gale Wing Srock Yimmy
Drixx
Zulfy Wickedestjr
Rylai and Lina (Shiro & Frozen Angel)
Skybird
Albert B. Rampage
CooLDoG
DrippingGoofball
MaxwellPuckett
Yosarian2
Lowkey (Lowell & Hinduragi)
Fluminator
Sensei
ZZZX
Itlepip ArcAngel9

Towny Towns of the Town!
ZZZX
Rylai and Lina (Shiro & Frozen Angel)
The Cool Cucumbers (wgeurts & cerberus v666)
Drixx (same as DS but I put you in town for now)
----------------------
A little bit less Town?
DiamondSentinel (still not sure weither to put you in town or lean town. So lean town for now)
Zulfy Wickedestjr
Albert B. Rampage
Drunken Pirates (Titus & Pirate Mollie) (recent posts were so bad mollie. Come on. You dropped to lean town for now)
Klingoncelt (I actually dont find you so bad right now unlike most people. I guess?
----------------------
You are null and void
ErrantParabola
Gale Wing Srock Yimmy
Skybird
CooLDoG
Fluminator
----------------------
I can sense dark engeries...
Lowkey (Lowell & Hinduragi)
Itlepip ArcAngel9
Sensei
MaxwellPuckett
----------------------
EXTERMINATE
Yosarian2
DrippingGoofball

[ZZZX]

Rylai and Lina

Please tell me I am not losing my mind

What the fuck is going on.

Why am I being literally ignored?

[ZZZX]

You were calling me town until i started criticising your play, zzzx.

Have I ever called you town though?

[ZZZX]

And Its not for attacking my play. its for having a shit logic and defending a scum buddy when hes using shitty logic of

"Hurr durr scum for some reason I never talked about hurr durr"

[ZZZX]

I have that bad gut feeling about yossa.

Only mention of you in my whole iso.

[ZZZX]

@ZZZ
Sensei says he can use the gun techique as if he had it fully upgraded(which needs numerous adventures for town) while actually not being a gun user at all(coincidentally though has same powers)

Hmm.. I want to ask the mod a few things first before commenting on that.

[ZZZX]

Flavor isn't gonna break the game anyway sweetcheeks. I get that you're playing the game and all excited and stuff but I don't really care to divulge any more info to scum than I already have.

it doesnt break the game but sometimes slips happen

and flavor catches some of those

[ZZZX]

But yes, in that exchange between you and DGB, she came off looking very townish, and you came off looking suspicious. Frankly, you're lucky that she didn't "fight you", because if she had you'd probably be lynched by now.

So you agree on the fact that DGB is scum reading me for the same reason you talked about that is not ok: My read on him?

because DGB has not talked about me ever except for "omg he misread lurkers & co as lurkers hurr durr"?

[ZZZX]

Your reads seem to be based on you don't like DGB voting you, and you don't like the fact that I think DGB looks like town and you look scummy. As far as I can tell, that's basically it. That's not a good thing to base your reads on, because, well, you really do look scummy, objectively speaking. If you want to look more town, take a look at some other parts of the game that DON'T involve people voting for you and give me your read on them.

that is not the reason. I will make a full DGB read explination. It seems that is what i have to do now.

[ZZZX]

That discussion was really only relevant as a way to figure out Max's alignment. You wanting to fight DGB, and DGB not wanting to get into a long drawn-out fight with you, doesn't really say anything about either of your alignments, it's purely a playstyle thing.

I asked him why I am scum outside of "consistancy" which I proved that I do all the time.

reply 200 posts later "cus consistent"

[ZZZX]

Uh. What? She didn't say anything like that.

"I refuse to argue with scum" then that post literally goes into what I said.

pedit: I will explain shortly. Its a lil mix of gut and a few other things. but its a scum-lean. Aka I plan to iso you after I deal with DGB storm here

[ZZZX]

But yes, in that exchange between you and DGB, she came off looking very townish, and you came off looking suspicious. Frankly, you're lucky that she didn't "fight you", because if she had you'd probably be lynched by now.

So you agree on the fact that DGB is scum reading me for the same reason you talked about that is not ok: My read on him?

because DGB has not talked about me ever except for "omg he misread lurkers & co as lurkers hurr durr"?

You voted DGB on post 600 something for a bad reason, and then never moved or updated your reads for the entire game. You didn't even mention DGB for a long time. Personally, when I asked you who you thought we should lynch, I didn't even realize you were still voting for DGB, because that vote had been so long ago.

That is quite scummy. Townie people should be actively scumhunting, not just planting their vote somewhere and then leaving it forever without pushing or changing their reads or, well, doing anything.

Remeber the fact that I missed a few days (aka 2k posts worth) of posts because of real life right? and that i obv wont change my vote until I catch up?

luckily (or is it unluckly for her?) when i saw er posts while catching up it was scummy enough for my vote to stay.

[ZZZX]

@3023 Yea sure. How to discredit a guy? call him an ultra newb or sometihng. And No. I consider myself somewhat of an expert at best or a good player at worse for mafia. And I just put you as a next person to lynch after DGB flips scum. so rejoice!
@3025 I didnt scum read him at the first vote. But overtime I evolved into a scum read.
@3027 You DO know that arguing with !scummetal is the reason I personally caught him? and that is also teh reason I convinced everyone to lynch him instead of me right? I have never gotten a negative result out of arguing with scum. Ever.
@3028 Wrong. If you plainly argue then maybe. But if you build up a few major points and witness the reactions. Then you would see things from a greater point.
@3030 FOR THE BAZILLIONITH TIME I HAVE MY READS THERE> RIGHT FUCKING OUT THERE. AND NO IT WOULD DO MUCH. BUT GUESS WHO WANTS TO AVOID IT HERE?

-Commertial BREAK- FOR PEOPLE SAYING ARGUING WITH SCUM WOULD GIVE THEM A WAY TO GET OUT OF IT. WHO will get out of it. Me? I am not being glboaly scumread. and noone is scumreading dgb for some reason (Are people trust in dgb way too much?) so this is so shitty as a reasoning. Its sad.

@3033 *facepalm*
@3034 Just... No... enough misreps you... ugh

*facepalm*

@3036 What? (even though we agreed this is not something scummy but...) What?

*facepalm*
just

*facepalm*
@3037 guess the period I havent mentioned him is the period i WAS FUCKING CATCHING UP FFS? While DGB didnt talk about me for a year (or in other words since page 10)
@3041 so you are saying that you are sure beyond doubty that I am scum

right

@3047 It sure takes a replacement who has not been brainwashed by wishy wishy DGB bullshit to see that those posts warrent a scum read at least.

*INSERT THANK YOU GIF HERE*
on other news the new guy is doing some good stuff,


then for the next 3 pages suddenly noone started talking about me or DGB.

This game is on my nerves. Noone has any clear "read" they are giving about me and I am being fuckign ignored. And simple reasoning that should be as simple as 1+1=2 is being called wrong.

Like what the fuck

I am fucking... I dont even knowe. like

Why the fuckign hell?

mini readlist next post in 5 minutes.

Here. happy?

[ZZZX]

@3023Yea sure. How to discredit a guy? call him an ultra newb or sometihng. And No. I consider myself somewhat of an expert at best or a good player at worse for mafia. And I just put you as a next person to lynch after DGB flips scum. so rejoice!
@3025I didnt scum read him at the first vote. But overtime I evolved into a scum read.
@3027You DO know that arguing with !scummetal is the reason I personally caught him? and that is also teh reason I convinced everyone to lynch him instead of me right? I have never gotten a negative result out of arguing with scum. Ever.
@3028 Wrong. If you plainly argue then maybe. But if you build up a few major points and witness the reactions. Then you would see things from a greater point.
@3030FOR THE BAZILLIONITH TIME I HAVE MY READS THERE> RIGHT FUCKING OUT THERE. AND NO IT WOULD DO MUCH. BUT GUESS WHO WANTS TO AVOID IT HERE?

-Commertial BREAK- FOR PEOPLE SAYING ARGUING WITH SCUM WOULD GIVE THEM A WAY TO GET OUT OF IT. WHO will get out of it. Me? I am not being glboaly scumread. and noone is scumreading dgb for some reason (Are people trust in dgb way too much?) so this is so shitty as a reasoning. Its sad.

@3033*facepalm*
@3034Just... No... enough misreps you... ugh

*facepalm*

@3036What? (even though we agreed this is not something scummy but...) What?

*facepalm*
just

*facepalm*
@3037guess the period I havent mentioned him is the period i WAS FUCKING CATCHING UP FFS? While DGB didnt talk about me for a year (or in other words since page 10)
@3041 so you are saying that you are sure beyond doubty that I am scum

right

@3047It sure takes a replacement who has not been brainwashed by wishy wishy DGB bullshit to see that those posts warrent a scum read at least.

*INSERT THANK YOU GIF HERE*
on other news the new guy is doing some good stuff,


then for the next 3 pages suddenly noone started talking about me or DGB.

This game is on my nerves. Noone has any clear "read" they are giving about me and I am being fuckign ignored. And simple reasoning that should be as simple as 1+1=2 is being called wrong.

Like what the fuck

I am fucking... I dont even knowe. like

Why the fuckign hell?

mini readlist next post in 5 minutes.

Here. happy?

fixed.

[ZZZX]

Anyway, if this is a one-shot ability,we probably don't want to use it today, unless we really need Sensei to confirm his role today.

If we do decide to do it today, I guess I could be up for lynching both Klingon and Max, or Klingon and ZXXX, or something, but we should probably just wait. It's a more powerful ability later in the game anyway.

ZZZX, I have the same complaint as Yos. Please provide links when you list posts you are responding to. I know the first time you did this someone asked you to link the posts. It looks scummy that you have ignored this request. The reason it looks scummy is because Yos is correct, most people are not going to go find the posts in question. And that may be what you want. *shrug*

im on the lazy side.

[ZZZX]

I don't wanna hear whining I want you to play the game that you signed up that you have to do yet. cos so far you have been as useful as third nipple on some1's forehead. you aren't reading the game and it is REALLY showing cos there are some things you really shld be responding to. you complain that you are a frequent mislynch well take the advice we gave klingon and step in and get your hands dirty AND PLAY THE DAMN GAME or replace out so that we can get some1 in here who will.

I am pretty sure I have been here all the game except for like a few days.

last 3 days I have been here perfectly. I have aread list up and i fought a guy to find his allignment (which he refused to take part in. or explain my read list)

What more do you want me to do?

I am doing more than 70% of this playlist (math you see)

and you are telling

me

to start doing stuff?

No thanks.

pedit: Lol

[ZZZX]

Also too many claims its getting somewhat confusing. Someone to gather that up would be nice.

[ZZZX]

Also too many claims its getting somewhat confusing. Someone to gather that up would be nice.

I'll work on it

~Rylai

Thanks <3

[ZZZX]

Rylai, I'd suggest you don't. I think you're town, but it'll make other, less intelligent people lynch you.

Not sure if srs or answering another pioint.

[ZZZX]

I don't wanna hear whining I want you to play the game that you signed up that you have to do yet. cos so far you have been as useful as third nipple on some1's forehead. you aren't reading the game and it is REALLY showing cos there are some things you really shld be responding to. you complain that you are a frequent mislynch well take the advice we gave klingon and step in and get your hands dirty AND PLAY THE DAMN GAME or replace out so that we can get some1 in here who will.

I am pretty sure I have been here all the game except for like a few days.

last 3 days I have been here perfectly. I have aread list up and i fought a guy to find his allignment (which he refused to take part in. or explain my read list)

What more do you want me to do?

I am doing more than 70% of this playlist (math you see)

and you are telling

me

to start doing stuff?

No thanks.

pedit: Lol

when I said that, I had not fully caught up, I see you did some stuff after. can you plz lose the dick attitude plz? and no, your math is wrong. there are about 4 or 5 players doing jackshit that is why I am trying to get a wagon them 4 or 5 players is not 70%. you flew into a rage and cldn't be bothered to ask me "why do you hate that post mollie?" cos gee that might generate some dialogue instead you are like "fuck you" and as usual there is 4 pple fosing yet I am the 1 who gets shit on I am sick and tired of being pple's punching bag on this site.

dialogue will help me get a read on you and then MAYBE I can keep you from getting lynched but if you are not gonna do that then I am not gonna do a thing to stop it. you don't bite the fucking hand that you KNOW will try to help zzthing you just don't.

You know the reason I am kind of raging right now is the ignorance I am getting from most people. I am sorry if I sound offensive to you but illness isnt good for one's temper

Anyway I am looking at people here and I am thinking about my next move right now.

[ZZZX]

Also too many claims its getting somewhat confusing. Someone to gather that up would be nice.

I'll work on it

~Rylai

I really can't do it completly precise but its what we have I guess

#All_Character_claims

R&L : Emilia
Sensei : Annie
Flumm : Asulus
Sky : Blue
Itle : Roge

For claims go recheck Iso's ... I won't make it easier for scums

~Rylai

I dont get why its easier for scum but ... okey?

[ZZZX]

Rylai, I'd suggest you don't. I think you're town, but it'll make other, less intelligent people lynch you.

Not sure if srs or answering another pioint.

Well, itlepip decided to try and give lynching me another shot because I was trying to solve the game...

Wait...

What?

[ZZZX]

I think I know who to iso next...

[ZZZX]

I dont get why its easier for scum but ... okey?

I must admit. Its just me being lazy ... 143 pages man! You understand?! lol

~Rylai

You and I think alive

[ZZZX]

Alike&*

[ZZZX]

@ZZZX, Your reads list gives me sads. I don't like having sads.

Why?

[ZZZX]

@ZZZX, cause it's like whaaaaaaat, are we reading the same thread?

pretty sure we are. its just that I am looking frmo a more generic point of view since i didnt interact with most of the slots that much yet.

[ZZZX]

One of Lowkey/DGB is probs scum btw.

I like dis but

why not both

[ZZZX]

@ zzthing will you plz vote drixx for MC?

Sure. I dont mind

MC:Drixx

[ZZZX]

Titus can you please explain to the town that double-lynching is optimal.

it is most defo optimal and I did explain it and it is scummy as fuck that yoyo and abr are saying otherwise!

The only way for town to catch scum = daylynch
its a well known fact that daylynch = town driven
nightkill = scum

so more daylnch = more scum dead = better

kind of as straightforward as it can be.. How can somoene disagree to that?

[ZZZX]

Also is it me or is drixx posting... a little less frequently?

[ZZZX]

Well one less scum read I have been wrong about is one better shot at hitting the actual scum in there !
Also thats one less iso to do

MC:Sensei

lead us, Sensei!

[ZZZX]

and well i am pretty sure you didnt claim the other name. but we shouldnt take the other name as granted. you could fake some name to be in your town list to see reactions and then declare if its there or not f.e but its up2you.

[ZZZX]

ZZZX is not very impressed.

But I'll take that as a null tell for you wguerts . one if those things we both excel at using at both alignments. So yea.

I still do trust in Albert but isn't a vonf town more important to mc? Or is there anything else?

Thing is this looks like me controlling the game.

[ZZZX]

Shiro can ya be kind enough and explain it to me? Or is that explanation anti town as well ?

Anyway I am at uni ATM. I'll read this more in details and change my vote I guess. Things seems to be a little complicated

[ZZZX]

I literally have a plan if the answer to my question is what I think it is.

[ZZZX]

ZZX

Sensei is very vurnablke to die n1 which only mean that we will have achieved nothing other than make more certain that a conf town will die.

ABR on the other hand is odd night BP which means he can't die.

I have a plan.

I'll explain half of it tonight when I reach home

[ZZZX]

I got he perfect cure to whatever move it ends up as. Just patience and we got this

I have been waiting this while game for a plan.

ZZZX loves plans

Like

Really very much

[ZZZX]

I cant explain what i have in mind but if I am not wrong i have a gambit. a really tiny gambit (read: extremely low risk) that would get us at least a scum.

sharing any more information wouldnt be nice. but I cant post it now. its too late at night. but tomorrow is the last day of the week. So yea. I will explain if you guys can trust me

Can you guys trust me?

[ZZZX]

We trust you as long as you don't pull an ABR and try to get to be MC by lying about your role.

nah my plan doesnt do that. my plan puts me in the most danger in reality.

[ZZZX]

tomorrow ill explain it all. must get the words to explain everything.

[ZZZX]

Before I sleep I have a question

Want to go for the safer low reward plan which is useful or the high risk plan which can net us one scum most likely if it is a success or even more .?

[ZZZX]

Before I sleep I have a question

Want to go for the safer low reward plan which is useful or the high risk plan which can net us one scum most likely if it is a success or even more .?

Go hard or go home.

I think I like you.


Anyway plan danger has no clear info for people. It needs us to reach d2. Anyway this is how it is:

Albert protects either me or sensei. Don't say who you protected.

I might have or might not have an ability that affects killers who target me. That much is for wifom (,feel free to believe I don't have it. Or believe I have it. Being the ZZZX means both are quite likely)

Sensei becomes mc


If sensei dies : I can prob get us a scum. Baring some conditions of some interactions

I die: everyone lives happily ever after. Who luvs zzzx anyway

Albert dies: nothing gained nothing lost. Which is what prob would have happened

I'd give it a 60% success. Depending on some factors but at the very worst we can control the target of the nk away from important targets.

When we survive this night stage 2 which is when the real control and conquer begins.

If you have a protection ability and you are not Albert DO NOT TARGET SENSEI. ACTUALLY DONT TARGET SENSEI AT ALL. IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT someone so bad you have yo bro zzzx but that's another story.

That's all I can give about it for now. When day 2 happens I can go into stage two. Where we can net 2 scum safety or have a clean mc party.

[ZZZX]

MC: Sensei

Gale, my posting depends on how much time I have available. During the week, I don't have much time.

At this point I feel like my head is going to explode. It would be great if we can try and get the double lynch thing in. But let's not lose sight of getting a lynch while trying for two OK?

DP, what do you think of ZZZX? I really don't like this BS about he has a plan and yet he hasn't stated or done anything about said plan. It feels like he's trying to distract the game from something.

My older avatar was from valkyria chronicles game mc saying "as planned". My SIG says Gambiteer since 2014. And I nearly got grandly blacklisted CU's of a discussion in discussion forum about how much I find gambits great at 2013.

And I am going with my plan

I love plans

[ZZZX]

I'm BP N1 but cant protect bro. Its night 2 im vulnerable.

Hmmm

Lete rethink that part

[ZZZX]

It would work fine. But would have a decent risk of losing sensei.

But honestly we will lose him most likely either way so I'd say go for it minus the protection. If we survive well enough to get partied I can ensure a safe mc party somewhat

[ZZZX]

I was town tracker. I made 4 different claims. Lied about everything. Read that game dude. I only do that as town. Whenever I have a PR role, I lie so the scum don't know what night actions to take. I WIFOM the scum very well.

I only do that as town.

That

is a trust tell.

Thing is. He can be lying. It's not something he did over 10s of games for example.


I use that sentence to manipulate my meta sometimes as both alignments.


At Abr I never said I am not trusting you did i

[ZZZX]

Unless it was not asked at me then idk lel

[ZZZX]

Xzzy you should prob mc me so we can carry out this plan.

It needs sensei. With you as a 2nd person. Because IMHO scum wouldn't change who they target in reality much

[ZZZX]

I can be down for a turbo lynch on zzthing.

Am disappointed in you

[ZZZX]

Xzzy you should prob mc me so we can carry out this plan.

It needs sensei. With you as a 2nd person. Because IMHO scum wouldn't change who they target in reality much

Lay out your plan again like I'm 5

Cool. Give me 10

[ZZZX]

Considering we take ABR as MC today:

Night kill with be most likely sensei.

ABR goes in a 4 man party

---
Same applies if we vote for sensei MC

However IF my plan succeds there is a chance for either catching a number of scum or sensei surviving. Thats where voting sensei for MC comes in. And Sensei will put ABR on top of the list.

Now the plan is to create a triangle. I will be the weakest link. being the guy that controls the triangle (which means nothing other than the fact scum cant NK you guys without risking everything) puts me in danger. But I might (or not!) have an ability to deal with anyone trying to kill me.

I wanted to give you the chance to choose between protecting sensei to get a higher chance of sensei surviving or protect me for a higher chance of getting scum with a risk of sensei dying. And I legit doubt scum will use extra abilities to kill both of me and sensei.

and if they do then we prob wasted one of their abilities. on a worthless target (read:me) and you can lead the town through after than. Currently Mollie is going weird as fuck I am losing trust in mollie.

pedit: |disappointed you didnt read carefully| into lets turbo lynch? I find that kind of urealistic sadly.

[ZZZX]

Scum titus in ikagura game or w.e the name was kind of lynched me for the same reason. and we both laughed at how dumb the town was for letting that lynch happen because people can be dump.

sadly for you if you are trying to go for it (or lets say luckly for us) I have both improved my playstyle well enough and this town is actually half decent

[ZZZX]

Also mollie I am disappointed thats how you comment on a ZZZX plan. A ZZZX plan is literally as holy as a titus VCA. Just more effective.

Remeber Team Mafia? I made 3 plans in thread which we didnt use

after game if we followed any it would have been an insta win. we won anyway but that doesnt cahnge the fact

[ZZZX]

Also flum and co who want to lynch me or think its a possible idea (wither you are town scum or a duck)

1- Activity wise I am the 7th highest poster. which puts me... way ahead of 60% of the game.

2- My content isnt the top town post level or anything. but again. Higher than at least 50% of the game at this stage

3- I am not even scummy at this stage. only person who tried pushingmy seriously is dgb... for reasons he is unwilling to "discuss with scum"

4- Look at all those people who are trying to soft push me. because they know they cant argue with me since they have no case or reasoning , they know I am a danger. But scum gotta do what scum gotta do.

[ZZZX]

ZZZX: what do you believe happens if we vote sensei for MC and he gets killed tonight? Who is the MC tomorrow?

Albert

and we will crown his ascendance to MC-ery with at least 1-2 confirmed scums who were foolish enough to touch MY sensei.

[ZZZX]

examples of old games where i gave plans and shit for people who will stay talk about how scummy it is to give plans and shit. yea

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=50093

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58246

These two on top of my head are two of my best town games

then you have team mafia again where i gave plans and shit. and we won because o teh trust MOLLIE

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=61168

You are not trusting me here so I cant help it about you mollie. ABR is giving me trust that you are not giving. And you remeber we won because of TRUST

[ZZZX]

ZZZX: what do you believe happens if we vote sensei for MC and he gets killed tonight? Who is the MC tomorrow?

Albert

and we will crown his ascendance to MC-ery with at least 1-2 confirmed scums who were foolish enough to touch MY sensei.

That's what I thought. That is not how it works. If we vote sensei and he dies, the previous MC is MC the next day. So, in this case, Drixx would be MC.

I have no idea where in this huge fucking thread that particular bit of misinformation about the first person in the party becomes the new MC came from, but it's wrong. Go check the 2nd post of the game and the clarification about the MC in there.

-Cerb

that wouldnt be too bad but still is ok. let me think about it after my lecture.

[ZZZX]

Was out with family for the whole day

no idea what interesting things happened but will see which one to vote now.

and for the mc vote i still find sensei the better choice but both ways it should be fine. I will go with a planless route for now. i need more info (and flips!)