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In post 8, Solar Wind wrote:Holy fuck we drew town. FT, how about you?
Yes, I'm town! This is gonna be good.-
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In post 69, Imperium wrote:FT - Thoughts on Solar Wind?
Probably town. Excitement about the game feels genuine, and I think their initial post saying they drew town and asking if I was town isn't something F-16 would do as scum.-
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In post 54, Xombie wrote:I think town would have added punctuation!
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In post 193, FourTrouble wrote:Metal, what's "fishy" about F-16's tone?
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In post 198, Metal Sonic wrote:his tone makes him seem like he's being intentionally deceptive
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In post 203, farside22 wrote:Ft: why have you not posted in the neighborhood?
Haven't checked it yet - don't really care about it atm.-
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This feels town.-
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In post 240, Solar Wind wrote:He said Tammy can town up even as scum. This comes after claiming that Imperium are scary as scum. So, I want that quick and easy Imperium townread explained.
I've been mulling over this. I've seen him develop quick townreads like this before, so the quickness doesn't bother me. But the combination of paranoia + townread is interesting. I'm not sure if it's a town-tell or scum-tell. Part of me wants to say scum would express it differently ("I think Imperium is town but they could be scum because they're scary goood as scum"). What do you think?-
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In post 255, Metal Sonic wrote:i dont remember playing with you... :0
We played together in hunter x hunter, and I've also skimmed some more recent games you were in.-
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In post 260, Solar Wind wrote:@ FT, Ffery has Metal as town. I'm coming around to it based on how much more pro-active his townhunting is compared to the scum baseline I have for him. You are probably right about the paranoia point. Which games of his did you skim?
I don't remember the exact games. I was quickly skimming his ISOs to check some surface-level things about his play.-
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Nah, we need votes on Ankamius. Even assuming 119 is okay (it's not), there's still been lots of stuff to talk about since the game "start," so the RVS vote, lack of scumhunting, and fluffy commentary is by far the worst, scummiest thing here.-
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In post 427, Imperium wrote:Implied scum motivation for complaining about lack of scumhunting is that he doesn't have to do anything, which would be scum motivation because he doesn't have to post, but the players with the biggest voice in the game are the ones doing all the posting and he's making enemies of us as a result, which accomplishes the opposite of what he would have set out to do as scum.
Ankamius is anti-town and lazy; both those make him more likely scum than town. Yes, he might alienate a couple players, but that doesn't change the analysis. Scum can still survive having an enemy or two.-
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In post 110, FourTrouble wrote:In post 54, Xombie wrote:I think town would have added punctuation!
Why?
I'd still like an answer to this. This didn't seem like a joke to me.-
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In post 446, Bitmap wrote:How is he anti-town? Also, being lazy is not alignment indicative.
Not reading large portions of the game is anti-town. Not commenting on anything unless specifically asked is anti-town. Casting an RVS vote (i.e. trying to go back) when RVS is dead is anti-town. All of these suggest that Ankamius isn't scumhunting (which is anti-town) and a passive/reactionary approach (which is also anti-town). I also disagree that being lazy isn't scummy. Yes, town are sometimes lazy too (and I'm at fault for this more than anyone), but in general scum are lazy more often than town, so it increases the odd that someone is scum.-
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In post 447, Bitmap wrote:@FourTrouble: What do you think of Xombie's reaction to MS's "gambit"?
It looked fine to me. Awkward but not a major concern. I think if someone says they have a guilty on you, and you're unsure whether it's a gambit, you're gonna react awkwardly even if you're town, so it's not very telling.-
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In post 455, Bitmap wrote:He said he didn't want to read any of the pre-game talk since the game hasn't started which is understandable. Passive/reactionary is a playstyle, which is not alignment-indicative unless paired with meta. Otherwise, I understand where you're coming from.
Just because something is "understandable" or a "playstyle" doesn't mean it's not anti-town.-
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In post 465, Imperium wrote:Why rail hard against him as opposed to vezok, who is more antitown and lazier?
Context. I voted Ankamius when vezok was a nonentity. My attention is on vezok now.-
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In post 478, Ankamius wrote:If his neighborhood is one that was outed, he's nothing but a distraction for right now.
If not, then some pressure is warranted just to get thoughts out, but nothing makes me want him dead currently.
I don't follow. What does outing his neighborhood have to do with anything?-
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Solar, I agree completely, especially when you add in the gut scumread on House. Tiphaine's wording and emotion also feels fake. Even if you're scummy, you're not "downright terrible," the buddying doesn't deserve a "goddamned" description, vezok isn't "town as fuck" even if he's town, and the questions I asked weren't "random" or "unconnected."-
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In post 489, FourTrouble wrote:Tiphaine, how is vezok "town as fuck"?
Tiphaine, how is this question random or unconnected?-
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In post 500, BRantz wrote:FT my question becomes how do you distinguish between vezok, Ank, and blonde (who's only post in the game is 424)? Are they all scum? What makes any of them more scummy than any other?
You distinguish as best you can. Ankamius engaged the game when questioned; vezok didn't.-
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In post 515, House wrote:Town would know it's a lie and scream scum.
I disagree strongly with this. The specific circumstances and player matters.-
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In post 516, Imperium wrote:BUT when Nacho does comment on his reads (something he clearly wanted) and agrees with the reads basically but has different strengths of those reads, it's cause for him to second guess his town read of us? I was surprised that literally noone else besides Tiphaine Death saw the problem with this post. (I'm not sure what I think of Tiphaine Death, his entrance post is kind of weird and his reasoning for thinking one of us is kinda eh when he just got done playing a game with us - Final Fantasy - and the way we interacted isn't completely different from that game and he didn't mention it at all, it's odd it's a problem for him here. But I also didn't like Falcon pointing out that HE DID NOT BUDDY US BECAUSE HE DEMANDED WE TOWN OURSELVES because it just feels like more posturing.
I understand (and agree to some extent) that 453 doesn't seem to follow from Nacho's comments, but I strongly disagree with Tiphaine that it's "buddying." I also don't understand what you mean by "posturing" - can you clarify that?
In post 516, Imperium wrote:He's basically warning Nacho that if Nacho doesn't agree with him 100% or if he thinks a read of his is weird, that he's prepared to take back his town read of us. Which is way way way more likely to come from Falcon scum. In Serum and Steel, every time our interaction being off and him not seeming town from it, he turned it around on me. It was always my fault for our interaction not being the same. When I tried to make sense of his reads and offer my own, he shut me down and turned it around on me. And then when I finally realized he was, in fact, scum and started pushing him, he omgus'd me harder than fuck and then drowned the game in a huge distraction designed to keep me from figuring out the game and getting an adequate push on him.
You make some good points that definitely make me want to understand where 453 came from, but I think this is pushing that reading too far. I haven't read Serum and Steel so I might be wrong but I don't (and can't) see F-16 creating a dichotomy where Nacho has to agree with him 100% or Nacho's scum. I see how you get that from 453 but I think you're reading more into that then there is.-
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In post 526, farside22 wrote:I'm just a bit bothered that TD says something and you follow up with issues after.
What's concerning about that? Tammy's analysis doesn't seem fake.-
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