SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Solar Wind]

ffery here. I'm not expecting miracles.

And we gave you something more than zero latitude. I told f-16 that I liked that anti immediately asked about the vote oddity, though that was something that might have been discussed in your neighborhood or scum thread. The long silence since then was concerning.

So is your showing up to post again right after we revoted you.

What do you plan to do with the remaining time, catch-up wise?

[ooba]

UNVOTE:

Sorry guys. Both heads have serious reservations about this wagon and we're reconsidering. I just don't feel the scumvibes from AP overall at this point. Ffery feels the same way.

Even I have reservations against AP, but at some point you got to compromise\choose. Apart from a very few slots {FT, Pere, ZZZX} - most slots have done something that's given me a brief town ping at times.

The reason you're pushing heartless is bad. They've barely been in the game. Even otherwise, I'm leaning town on that slot. I thought Vyse-scum wouldn't have been as useless as he was - and if Vyse scum actually went the 'Oh - I'm going to post notes.' followed by 'Sorry. Don't have time' - that's a very dick move to his replacement.

[Heartless]

I just woke up! How is that scummy?

[Heartless]

ffery here. I'm not expecting miracles.

And we gave you something more than zero latitude. I told f-16 that I liked that anti immediately asked about the vote oddity, though that was something that might have been discussed in your neighborhood or scum thread. The long silence since then was concerning.

So is your showing up to post again right after we revoted you.

What do you plan to do with the remaining time, catch-up wise?

I'm giving this game my attention this morning and I'm not sure what Antihero's got going. I'm sure if he's on MS, he'll be reading this game too.

Anti's "silence" was site-wide last night so your suggestion that he's avoiding this game because we're scum is slanderous.

[Solar Wind]

UNVOTE:

Sorry guys. Both heads have serious reservations about this wagon and we're reconsidering. I just don't feel the scumvibes from AP overall at this point. Ffery feels the same way.

Even I have reservations against AP, but at some point you got to compromise\choose. Apart from a very few slots {FT, Pere, ZZZX} - most slots have done something that's given me a brief town ping at times.

The reason you're pushing heartless is bad. They've barely been in the game. Even otherwise, I'm leaning town on that slot. I thought Vyse-scum wouldn't have been as useless as he was - and if Vyse scum actually went the 'Oh - I'm going to post notes.' followed by 'Sorry. Don't have time' - that's a very dick move to his replacement.

It looked like a dick move, regardless of alignment.

Is the town-lean because of how he replaced out?

[Solar Wind]

ffery here. I'm not expecting miracles.

And we gave you something more than zero latitude. I told f-16 that I liked that anti immediately asked about the vote oddity, though that was something that might have been discussed in your neighborhood or scum thread. The long silence since then was concerning.

So is your showing up to post again right after we revoted you.

What do you plan to do with the remaining time, catch-up wise?

I'm giving this game my attention this morning and I'm not sure what Antihero's got going. I'm sure if he's on MS, he'll be reading this game too.

Anti's "silence" was site-wide last night so your suggestion that he's avoiding this game because we're scum is slanderous.

this feels like an overreaction. All I can really do is compare your replace in to what I've done in the past when replacing in with a short time to deadline. I haven't meta'd you, but by reputation you're a dedicated player.

[ooba]

Is the town-lean because of how he replaced out?

Well not entirely. He's also part of my neighbourhood and from what I gathered, he fit the mould of a 'thinking'+'courteous' player. I think he was town who really wanted to play but RL got in the way. My read on his playstyle\character is that he would have replaced out a *long* time back if he was scum since he would have considered himself a burden to his buddies.
[But nothing too solid here - just enough to lean town and say I would prefer others over him today.]

[Heartless]

What was over reactive about it?

[Solar Wind]

What was over reactive about it?

"slanderous"

[Skybird]

Skybird - When you replaced in, did you read the game first and then your neighborhood or how did you do that?

I read the neighborhood first because it only had 3 pages. Then I started reading the game thread which had about 50 pages.

People not voting and people on the low wagons down at the bottom of the list

who of the top wagons would you vote for?

Right now Beast is in the top three vote getters so I'm keeping my vote there. But I'd rather see us get a lynch and will move my vote if necessary.

[Solar Wind]

Is the town-lean because of how he replaced out?

Well not entirely. He's also part of my neighbourhood and from what I gathered, he fit the mould of a 'thinking'+'courteous' player. I think he was town who really wanted to play but RL got in the way. My read on his playstyle\character is that he would have replaced out a *long* time back if he was scum since he would have considered himself a burden to his buddies.
[But nothing too solid here - just enough to lean town and say I would prefer others over him today.]

ok.

UNVOTE:

we'll confer asap and decide whether we're comfortable putting our vote back on ap. I have serious qualms that a player with his caliber of scum game would just let a wagon roll over him without any response at all.

[Heartless]

this feels like an overreaction. All I can really do is compare your replace in to what I've done in the past when replacing in with a short time to deadline. I haven't meta'd you, but by reputation you're a dedicated player.

Well that's just not true.

You

could

have checked site-wide activity for last night for Antihero. You chose not to and now

I'm

not allowed to be annoyed that my time is now being consumed by having to defend things like what I was doing last night and what time I woke up this morning?

[Heartless]

What was over reactive about it?

"slanderous"

slan·der·ous
adjective
(of a spoken statement) false and malicious.
"slanderous allegations"
synonyms: defamatory, denigratory, disparaging, libelous, pejorative, false, misrepresentative, scurrilous, scandalous, malicious, abusive, insulting; informal mudslinging
"slanderous accusations"

That word choice seems appropriate to me.

[ooba]

But I'm with you when you say AP might be a bad lynch. His BP claim + posting all seemed to have a town vibe.

Maybe going after one of the lurkers is the best strategy like you mention - but you might be barking up the wrong tree with heartless.

Others:
- I thought scum-beast would have been more active - but I don't like how he's hiding behind a role ('Oh I'm voteless - I cannot be scum'). Still would lean town.
- I'm not sure about ace's wagon stalling - is it because town correctly read him as town? Or did his buddies decide it could be avoided? I would still say town.

- Pere, ZZZX could be scum

- Aeroloft could be scum

- Skybird leaning more town than scum. Similar to 'The Mask'

[Solar Wind]

this feels like an overreaction. All I can really do is compare your replace in to what I've done in the past when replacing in with a short time to deadline. I haven't meta'd you, but by reputation you're a dedicated player.

Well that's just not true.

You

could

have checked site-wide activity for last night for Antihero. You chose not to and now

I'm

not allowed to be annoyed that my time is now being consumed by having to defend things like what I was doing last night and what time I woke up this morning?

I don't think either of us said or implied that Anti was

avoiding

the game thread.

It's more nuanced than that.

[Solar Wind]

Also, I'd appreciate the hell out of it if you'd actually stop defending "things" and go catch up and put some thoughts into the thread.

[T S O]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48144

AAA is a pretty good example of this, actually.

Is that an active TSO-scum game? If so, useless.

If you mean the example is useless, I'd disagree. The d1 lynch was basically me. And I continued doing stuff like pushing Riptide in LyLo.
If you're calling my play useless, cheers, I guess... though I did win, so it seems an unfair comment.

[Solar Wind]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48144

AAA is a pretty good example of this, actually.

Is that an active TSO-scum game? If so, useless.

If you mean the example is useless, I'd disagree. The d1 lynch was basically me. And I continued doing stuff like pushing Riptide in LyLo.
If you're calling my play useless, cheers, I guess... though I did win, so it seems an unfair comment.

I think nacho meant it was a useless game in terms of demonstrating that you can be inactive as both alignments.

[T S O]

Dear Heartless: please stop arguing semantics and do stuff. Love, TSO.

PEdit: Let me get back to Nacho on that.

[Heartless]

Also, I'd appreciate the hell out of it if you'd actually stop defending "things" and go catch up and put some thoughts into the thread.

Good, we're on the same page then.

Don't attack us for not doing anything. We just got here.

[Solar Wind]

The best defense against that kind of attack is to do stuff.

Which is what I want. Because it's a lot easier to discern alignment from content.

[Heartless]

Dear Heartless: please stop arguing semantics and do stuff. Love, TSO.

I fully intend to do so. If I sound annoyed and defensive right now, it's because I am. This catch up is the most daunting one I've had to date: it's 24 player slots to keep up with and a lengthy read. Having a stopwatch shoved up my ass doesn't help.

[Cephrir]

Is the town-lean because of how he replaced out?

Well not entirely. He's also part of my neighbourhood and from what I gathered, he fit the mould of a 'thinking'+'courteous' player. I think he was town who really wanted to play but RL got in the way. My read on his playstyle\character is that he would have replaced out a *long* time back if he was scum since he would have considered himself a burden to his buddies.
[But nothing too solid here - just enough to lean town and say I would prefer others over him today.]

This does seem an accurate representation. I don't feel strongly in favor of the conclusion, but yeah.

[RachMarie]

mod can we have extra time since we just had a replacement? Pretty please with sugar on top?

[FourTrouble]

F-16, who are we lynching?