Very interesting name, I like it.
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Mhm, however, some players do not like the RVS at all and feel it is pointless to have one. Would your ears perk if a type of player such as that were present?forbiddanlight wrote:Correct. Or, rather, the length is loosely expressed as "until someone accidentally screws up". At least, that's my view. An artificial ending caused by a self vote is one I tend to try to ignore. If they claim they were trying to end then my ears perk up.-
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Alright, Forbiddan. (Also, a side question. Do you have a preference on what you want your name shortened as? Some people gripe when I shorten it to things they do not like.)
I disagree with your post Saber. It doesn't seem well thought out. I don't understand your logic behind: "players and scum to just hop on BW with no questions asked". You do realize that this would be taking place after the RVS? So you'd think that there would be no questions asked if a bandwagon were started right now?saberwolf wrote:The problem with ending the RVS so early is we did not get an insight on every single player. Prematurely ending the RVS allows players and mostly scum to just hop on BW with no questions asked. If the RVS had been allowed to run a little longer, we would of maybe seen some interesting votes and reasons for them from EVERYBODY. Then we could of acted accordingly.
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Now really what I meant, Saber. Elaborate upon this please. What you just gave entails wagoning during the RVS, but this quote entails after the RVS:
Just because this has piqued my interest now...saberwolf wrote: Prematurely ending the RVS allows players and mostly scum to just hop on BW with no questions asked.
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Were you attempting Fong's gambit?saberwolf wrote:I would have to say that I think Archon is town. The reason being most scum would not want to draw attention to themselves. I have self voted for myself in RVS as town, so I can see Archon doing it too.
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Well first off, as I said, there's a time for joking and a time not to. I believe we've passed the point for joking. Saber also is not being helpful in the slightest. It seems when we "went out" of RVS the claw is attempting to drag is backward. So, what I'm getting at is; Saber is not helping the game progress, but rather regress. So I am happy with my vote for the time being.Doombunny9 wrote:Ok, chaco, forbiddan, and kikuchiyo are you only voting saber/me for the jokes we made? If so that seems like a very horrible reason and I will give my FoS out to you for that. If not I want all of the reasons you have for voting us.-
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Detrimental to town would have to be Saber alone at this time. You have joked, however, you have posted other content. Where as Saber is just now coming around on, let's call it page 6. (End of Page 5)
No it doesn't really. I have played with him before, and can recognize differences in his play and meta off of current games.-
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After reading through and getting caught up finally, as I've been promising for days. Which apologize for, by the way. I'm really liking my vote on Saberwolf. So here's the post.
No, never did I come off as Bunny not being scum.saberwolf wrote:when that I was saying that it was kinda being smartass to chaco, because he questioned me in a way that clearly came across as chaco stating that he had no belief of bunny being scum, thus questioning my vote change.
Doombunny: this is your cue to act exceedingly scummy
Spam master.saberwolf wrote:as far as I see it, I'm being voted for because of a joke I made.
You say this although you meta Kanowa.saberwolf wrote:I HAVE NO META!!!!!
at the very least, there is no way you can use what little we have and make a claim either way based on meta.
AtoE.saberwolf wrote:EBWOP: I find it insulting for you to say I have meta, when my whole purpose on MS has been to avoid making one, and then what's even worse is the fact that you apply it to my mood, and not my actual scumhunting abilities.
Buddying.saberwolf wrote:But ok, I'll give you a chance...come on, we're both online right now, lets collectively analize the game so far, and explore other parts too.
Essentially all Saber does is flip flop around try to get in the good graces of players. I am very satisfied with my vote.-
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It's an incredibly weak form of defense though, and can easily be seen through.Doombunny9 wrote:
Higher than you think. Scum will sometimes vote their scumpartner in the RVS to bus them and defend themselves later.Looker wrote:What is the likelihood of scum voting their scumpartner right off bat? As in the RVS?
As such though, connections be seen with it, however as Amished has said focus on one scum first and then focus on connections.-
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Here's me thoughts on the deal, Saber took a dive of activity once everyone started scrutinizing him and then a day or so later he decided to replace out. We'll be getting nothing from the replacement but "Don't kill me I'm [insert role claim]!". Because he will not know Saber's motives, and we are already so close to a lynch on him. I believe the best play we can do is just lynch Saber and see where that takes us.-
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So, it seems we have a decision to make guys, as we are divided on the stance we are taking.
We need to confirm soon that we are either going to; 1) Lynch Saber and do not get a replacement, or 2) Get MafiaSSK as a replacement and then presumably go after Doombunny I guess.
Personally, I'm up for Saber. But I'd be willing to change as previously said.
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Well, I mean a better thought out shot. Shooting blindly has a very low success rate, and a higher rate of lessening towns numbers. Not advised at all. And being sure as vig? You can't be 100% sure, but you can have a better idea than just
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He is scummy enough, I just think we should look at the downsides here. We could potentially lose 3 townies in a window of one night and day phase. That is not good at all. So, upon flip, I saw we should shoot the other. If not, wait. Because that will put us in a horrid position if both flipped town and then chalk up the mafias night kill as well and we're, well to put it in good terms, fucked.
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@Kairyuu: Fuzzy posted not to long ago, he must've not responded to the PM though.
Hence why I said he posted and wasn't being replaced.
fuzzylightning wrote:Alright, I have tried catching up and it was very hard, but I have finally gotten through everything. Personally, I am not completely sold on Doombunny, but I haven't done an iso-read because I was just trying to catch up with the interactions in the game, so we will see what happens when I do that, but I don't like how Saber started out joking and really never got into the game it seemed. Sure he was getting a lot of flack for his joking, but I think he could have tried a bit harder. Going through the thread a few times, and i really believe that Saber is the lynch for the day, so with that,Vote: Saber
Actually, after re-reading this page again, Doombunny seems to have flipped to the easy lynch now that the pressure is off him and that really doesn't sit well with me. I am gonna go back and do that iso on him right now, but for now,unvoteVote: Doombunny-
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It's not that I don't agree with your logic, it just makes me uneasy. I don't like the thought of losing 3, or possibly even 4 players, of a 12 player game in one full cycle. I just don't like it. Because, there is not enough information out about those players to safely make connections between them and other players. Thus leaving us in the dark about them, and can possibly go bad from that point on.Amished wrote:But *why*? Do you not agree with my logic? Specifically my point about vigging a townie later in the game rather than now?
To an extent your post was tunneling. Anyways, no it's none of that. As I've said, and to reiterate, I find it ill advised and a bad play. Why? Because losing a 1/3 or 1/4 of the game in one cycleAmished wrote:Because the only reason I see for you not wanting us to vig the other of whoever gets lynched is that you're partners with them, or you're partnered with net (who's lying then in this case) and you don't want to out them as an only killing role (highly unlikely).good. You say it's balanced. Balanced doesn't mean in town's favor.is not-
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