Mini 861: Hellsing Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Netopalis]

I meant in terms of the game "today"

[Doombunny9]

Doom, you compare me to SSK. Which you said that if he posted more it would not change your opinion on him. Why is that? Does that also mirror to onto me?

Well if he just started to suddenly start posing more it would seem as if he is just trying to get on my good side so I wouldn't vote him. Also, his actions from what may happen in the future will not change his (in)actions in the past. If he could convince me to not vote him or to vote someone else than I suppose I would change my vote from him. And of course this applys to you too.

[magnus_orion]

Thought it was L-2, hard to keep track without a vote count, if it doesn't happen by 8pm Eastern it probably won't happen today, I have parties to attend.

there were questions directed at you. Before discussing when you should claim, answer them...

My head hurts right now. I think I might have gotten sick. I don't feel up to thinking very hard right now.

[Chaco]

Why was my quote labeled SSK?

Anyways, I understand what you mean, but don't you think that is tunneling slightly?

[Netopalis]

Chaco, for what it's worth, I don't think that a wagon against you for lurking would gain much steam if you were posting some stuff. Why don't you go ahead and tell us who you suspect and why?

[Doombunny9]

Why was my quote labeled SSK?

I was trying to type quickly and wasn't really paying attention

Anyways, I understand what you mean, but don't you think that is tunneling slightly?

Hmm, it might be a little bit. But I will have an open mind about it and listen to new ideas and opinions.

[Chaco]

Who I suspect? As stated earlier, that'd have to be Doombunny. Reasons already mentioned.

[Netopalis]

Honestly, Chaco, you have to have a better reason than "My character is town and his character can't be on the same side". Incognito was scum and he can't be on the same side as Integra, by the same logic.

[Chaco]

That's not the half of it. Did you even look back? Doom
is a very scummy player.

[Netopalis]

Well, you keep saying that, but you never really substantiate it. Would you mind listing a few points about why you find Doombunny to be scummy?

[Chaco]

1. Go read him in ISO, as I have done multiple times. Just humor me, and do so.
2. Also, I looked back to Amished's suspicions since he died town. One of his main focuses was DB.
3. Doom as much as he posts, isn't helpful in the slightest.

Main point being, go read him in ISO. Tell me that you do not find him incredibly scummy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm hungover. What did I miss?

[Chaco]

Lmfao.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=285

[Netopalis]

1. Go read him in ISO, as I have done multiple times. Just humor me, and do so.
2. Also, I looked back to Amished's suspicions since he died town. One of his main focuses was DB.
3. Doom as much as he posts, isn't helpful in the slightest.

Main point being, go read him in ISO. Tell me that you do not find him incredibly scummy.

1) I'm asking what YOU find scummy.
2) Amished's responses, while he is town, are not going to necessarily be 100% accurate.
3) I think he's been fairly helpful. Can you point to particularly poor posts?

[Doombunny9]

1. Go read him in ISO, as I have done multiple times. Just humor me, and do so.
2. Also, I looked back to Amished's suspicions since he died town. One of his main focuses was DB.
3. Doom as much as he posts, isn't helpful in the slightest.

Main point being, go read him in ISO. Tell me that you do not find him incredibly scummy.

Chaco, this is a really weak arguement. For one, you aren't giving any strong evidence against me.

1. Just like Neto said, what do you think is scummy?
2. Amished knows all now? Seems to me as if you're appealing to this fact rather than doing any work on your own
3. Says the person with the short one-liners

[Netopalis]

Look, folks, I apologize if it appears that I'm pulling a chainsaw defense of Doombunny, it's just....well, we've almost lynched someone for two consecutive days in a row, and I'd really like to know why. Can someone please provide me a single shred of evidence? Anything? If not, then I highly suspect scum activity on the wagons.

[Shotty to the Body]

Thought it was L-2, hard to keep track without a vote count, if it doesn't happen by 8pm Eastern it probably won't happen today, I have parties to attend.

there were questions directed at you. Before discussing when you should claim, answer them...

My head hurts right now. I think I might have gotten sick. I don't feel up to thinking very hard right now.

Which questions? I'm looking forward to ABR's response to my post which he made everyone hold on, but he apparently has forgotten all about it.

[Shotty to the Body]

Konowa's arguments are crap, how can you possibly catch scum if you won't look at connections with confirmed scum? Not to mention he totally glosses over all the other reasons that made Saber scummy. Even if he personally doesn't like to use connections as part of his case (which is retarded) why does that make me scummy? Hunt the motivation, not the idea to find scum. Even if he disagrees with my method of scumhunting he can clearly see that I believe it to be effective and are contributing with it.

[Chaco]

Net, yes you are. Also, DB reeks of scum! Need I say more? In all of his posts, he is an erratic player who does not weigh all of the factors and tends to tunnel like crazy. He tends to go after those who go after him, as shown by all of his votes. He joked like crazy on D1 and then pulled the little innocent act. He should've been the D1 lynch, his claim saved him. Stupidity on my part and not claiming D1 caused Looker's lynch. If I would've thought more clearly about it, I would've claimed and pushed that away. However, his alignment was not guaranteed. So therefore, I did pursue his lynch. I have no idea what he was thinking. If it was a gambit, it failed miserably.

Anyways, back to DB, I'll go outline some of his posts later if needed. But, I really don't think it needs it. Because essentially I'd be quoting his ISO.

Also, regarding Amished, you are to quick to dismiss that idea. I don't like it. Gonig back and looking at where a CONFIRMED townie's suspicions lie is a pretty good idea. You dismissed it instantly.

[Netopalis]

Humor is a scumtell?
Furthermore, saying someone is scummy doesn't make them scummy. I honestly don't see it. Back up your argument. You don't need to quote all of his posts, just give me 4 or 5 that you think are scummy and why.
And yes, I do dismiss it entirely. Amished has no more reason to know who scum is than anyone else. Sure, we know that he had no ulterior motives now, but that doesn't make his suspicious absolute truth.

[Shotty to the Body]

I agree with Neto on the last point, just because he was town didn't make him right. How about outlining his posts NOW chaco? Explain to us which posts lead you to think he is scum and why.

[Doombunny9]

Net, yes you are. Also, DB reeks of scum! Need I say more? In all of his posts, he is an erratic player who does not weigh all of the factors and tends to tunnel like crazy. He tends to go after those who go after him, as shown by all of his votes. He joked like crazy on D1 and then pulled the little innocent act. He should've been the D1 lynch, his claim saved him. Stupidity on my part and not claiming D1 caused Looker's lynch. If I would've thought more clearly about it, I would've claimed and pushed that away. However, his alignment was not guaranteed. So therefore, I did pursue his lynch. I have no idea what he was thinking. If it was a gambit, it failed miserably.

I do weigh all of my options. And tunneling? Hardly. In fact, you seem to be tunneling on me more than anyone else. Also, only 3/9 people think I am pro-town or neutral (Neto, Shotty, Magnus if I'm correct). I beleive Netos claim, I do think Shotty is scummy, and I haven't really heard enough on Magnus to get a sold read on him but I'm leaning town. So other than Shotty I kinda do have to get on people who are on me. and joked like crazy? If you look back I only made a joke in 1 post in D1 I beleive. Besides. Just like Neto says, how is humor a scumtell?

[MafiaSSK]

Humor is a scumtell?
Furthermore, saying someone is scummy doesn't make them scummy. I honestly don't see it. Back up your argument. You don't need to quote all of his posts, just give me 4 or 5 that you think are scummy and why.
And yes, I do dismiss it entirely. Amished has no more reason to know who scum is than anyone else. Sure, we know that he had no ulterior motives now, but that doesn't make his suspicious absolute truth.

Oh Neto, how can you be so blind sometimes.

[Netopalis]

Oh, for the love of all that is good and holy.....

My friend, you need to back up your opinion. If you expect anybody to follow you, then SAY WHY WE SHOULD BLOODY DO IT. It's not good enough to just say that my opinions are wrong, you need to say WHY! Do you consider yourself some sort of tortured genius who can only grace the world with your presence through short sentences so that you don't blind us with the utter and all-consuming light that is your brain? Are you really that arrogant, SSK? Because, honestly, from what I've seen, I've been rather unimpressed.

[Netopalis]

That post continues to irk me. The annoyance, it just won't wash off unless I

Unvote, vote: MafiaSSK