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Because that post was so utterly overdone it's ridiculous. He's holding the cards in his left hand and telling us to watch the right, but in such an obvious way that it looks to me like a double- or triple-bluff.
I mean, there're a couple different options and not all of them have him as Scum, but it's pretty blatantly manipulative and I don't like it.
In post 30, Zebulin wrote:In post 28, Metal Sonic wrote: I am an ordinary Vanilla Townie!In post 28, Metal Sonic wrote: I think the masons should not claim first at all, andmy partnershould instead try to find out who is town and masonize them so that eventually town will get a strong townblock of town!
So, are you a vanilla townie or a mason?
You should know your own role...
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In post 105, nopointinactingup wrote:I get that it's ridiculous, but you were pointing out his likelihood of being scum in a wishy washy manner, not his supposedly ludicrous manipulative attempts. DO you find any scum motivation behind the post?
If I didn't then I'd hardly be likely to say I'd thought he could be Scum, would I?
In post 48, Huntress wrote:I think it was the way the "Why?" came after the vote rather than after the quote. Like he needed an excuse for joining an rvs wagon. It just didn't seem to flow.
No it was rather a serious vote.
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In post 115, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 111, Huntress wrote:
Meta is a good tool if used wisely. Don't blame the tool for the way it's sometimes misused.
I don't really want to get into this in the middle of a game, would prefer to talk about it post-game, but if somebody is aware of their meta or how certain people interpret meta, it can be manipulated quite easily.
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There's a difference between actions and tone, and there are also some actions that people don't seem to be able to help doing even if they're indicative.
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Well, I still haven't read pages 2-4, so I'm not really at much of anywhere at present. Will probably post much more soonish though.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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In post 127, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 124, goodmorning wrote:Well, I still haven't read pages 2-4, so I'm not really at much of anywhere at present. Will probably post much more soonish though.
How slow at reading must you be to be unable to read two pages?
Obviously, it's scum-alignment-reading-speed-failure-and-beetlejuice syndrome!
I actually read quite quickly, but I haven't been able to sit down at the computer for more than a few minutes at a time and I'd really rather only read it once for now.
Beetlejuice? Really?
In post 128, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 123, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 116, Metal Sonic wrote:Haven't you heard? A vote is the town's best weapon!
A vote is a good weapon; however, when it only sticks on someone for a page or so, it pretty much becomes useless. Your vote serves no purpose as you're expected to move it onto the next target within the next 25 posts.
I don't want to be pointing my weapon and accidentally killing someone who is town.
I can't even this contradiction.
In post 131, Malakittens wrote:Ms knock it off please. I know you find it funny but it's really not
THIS
Hmmmm p2 Zeb looked like reachy Scum but p6 Zeb looks much townier.
@Josh: Well, there's not a lot of mileage in a grudge.
@Huntress: The best townbloc is a joke townbloc. LET'S START A COUNTERBLOC OMG
In post 145, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 140, Malakittens wrote:Also those who were in the game from the start. Were there Day 1 start PMs sent out?
There were day start PMs but no link to the game thread. New mod.
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In post 150, Metal Sonic wrote:Does this mean that you have read the game already?
Does this mean you read the rest of my post already?
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mmmmmmmmmm this is already dull
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oh wait
i know where
it was on page 2
well shit
i didn't think we were far enough into the game to start repeating ourselves
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if only that was a catchup post
you may have noticed that all the posts were from the current page
this is because i still have not read pages 3-4.
i was yelling at seagulls all weekend. i didn't take my computer. then i fucked about yesterday and was out tutoring today. i am tired of thinking. proofs should be shot.
effort is not indicative of alignment
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i sort of figured it would be self-evident given my utter lack of reference to page 3-4
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well once i read them i'll at least be able to comprehend them
it's almost like i care about solving the game and you don't
perish the fucking thought
In post 181, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 132, Zebulin wrote:Toffee pressures Metal Sonic
Metal Sonic tells Toffee to leave him alone
I don't like this at all. Town should be fine with scumhunting, even if it's on them (since they can say all their thoughts; as town, they have nothing to hide). Also, the uncle sonic thing bugs me.
Will post more when I have time
This is an overreaction. I don't like this post.
See, I actually quite like that post. It screams "NEWBTOWN" in neon letters.
In post 182, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Also, GM can you actually do something please.
I am doing something. That something just doesn't extend to pages 3-4 atm.
In post 183, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 176, Metal Sonic wrote:
This post in particular was one of the worst catchup posts that I would only expect from bad VIs (user VDA) or just textbook scum.
It does not provide any substantiation comments on the game state, does not give any reads, does not mention if anybody is town, and are just lackadaisical comments that provide absolutely no contribution or any form of curiosity of scum hunting nature that would be expected from a townie.
I called you out for lurking, so you read the previous pages and made a few swift comments to appease te town and super quote blocks to make your post seem long. Like, it takes only 10 minutes max to read 2 pages of content, and for the past few days you checked the thread only to prod dodge. When an expected analysis of the previous two pages was to be analyses, you gave no analysis whatsoever. No reads, no scumhunting, nothing.
I actually agree with most of this.
Really?????
It hinges on my post having been a catchup post of pages 3-4, which it categorically wasn't (the posts having been in the hundreds and all on the current page was a dead fucking giveaway). It then throws in a slice ofutterly fucking uselessBeetlejuice and pretends that means something. How in the flying fuck can you agree with any of that?
In post 184, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 181, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You think town semi-role fish?
I never semi role-fished. All I said was that I am a Vanilla Townie over and over. I told the masons to stay quiet. If anyone is going to get rolefished, it's the scum.
this post = worst post
In post 190, Metal Sonic wrote:Ironically, Goodmorning received 3 votes during RVS and these lurkers probably haven't removed their votes yet. With your vote, goodmorning will be at L-2. If he is scum as I predict, he is going to cry, lol.
Oh you poor thing.
I am the type of person who replaces into L-1 slots. Votes do not and have never bothered me as any alignment.
In post 200, Metal Sonic wrote:Look at how defensive she is. And I wrote a pretty big case against her for a game with less than ten pages. You read that, didn't you?
I've found that if you let the bullshit live it tends to multiply.
And your case was a pretty massive fucking steaming pile.
"Boo hoo, gm hasn't read these fucking pages yet" WELL EFFORT IS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT
Do I need to bring up my delaying making a case for a month as VT again or are people sick of that yet?
In post 202, Metal Sonic wrote:Defensiveness does equal scum. Active lurking also equals scum. Not contributing to the town despite being here =refusingto contribute = scum. What else? Right. Having bad reactions when one is being put at L-3 at page 7 probably adds quite a few scumpoints too.
Rebutting a case =/= defensiveness.
Being at the fucking beach =/= active lurking.
And I'll repeat for the record that I do not and have never cared about votes.
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In post 210, goodmorning wrote:
well once i read them i'll at least be able to comprehend them
it's almost like i care about solving the game and you don't
perish the fucking thought
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No. I think he's Scum because
1. He hasn't displayed any interest in the actual content of anyone's posts, preferring instead to substitute his own narrative over the actual words people are actually saying.
2. His attempts to control the game are incredibly manipulative (as are some of his posts).
3. His butting in at various times is annoying at best (implies scummy at worst).
4. He's failed to answer my questions to him or discuss my rebuttals of his case. Which then links back to 1 and the whole fucking cycle starts again.
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In post 219, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:He has a habit of dodging questions. OK, let's do this then.
What is this supposed to mean?
I've read 75% of the thread. Do you have 75% of a read on me?
In post 224, nopointinactingup wrote:In post 48, Huntress wrote:I think it was the way the "Why?" came after the vote rather than after the quote. Like he needed an excuse for joining an rvs wagon. It just didn't seem to flow.
No it was rather a serious vote.
Which you oddly have yet to really explain, afaik.
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What you have to explain is your apparently serious vote. Stop dodging.
GM's OMGUS on MS is just bad. I'm willing to lynch her but I'd rather gain more in the day.
The definition of OMGUS: To suspect someone in reaction to their suspecting you.
I suspected Sonic. He then "suspected" me in direct reaction.
If either of us is OMGUSing, it's Sonic.
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@Shinobi: Maybe you could explain that sentence.
@Zeb: Why ISOs?
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In post 244, Shinobi wrote:I've thought about it and I have no idea what you think having me answer that question will accomplish.
Why ask it?
It will accomplish making you readable.
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In post 251, nopointinactingup wrote:In post 226, goodmorning wrote:
What you have to explain is your apparently serious vote. Stop dodging.
It was a pressure vote. As far as I know. I can explain my vote whenever like to.
Yes, and when people ask you to and you refuse, it looks quite bad when the only reason you can manage after all that time is "pressure".
GM's OMGUS on MS is just bad. I'm willing to lynch her but I'd rather gain more in the day.
The definition of OMGUS: To suspect someone in reaction to their suspecting you.
I suspected Sonic. He then "suspected" me in direct reaction.
If either of us is OMGUSing, it's Sonic.
Apparently, your case against him consist of nothing besides his argument is (supposedly) wrong. THAT, is OGMUS
That is not what OMGUS is.
Are you even reading my posts?
In post 217, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:GM you think MS is scum because he presented a bad case on you?
In post 218, goodmorning wrote:No. I think he's Scum because
1. He hasn't displayed any interest in the actual content of anyone's posts, preferring instead to substitute his own narrative over the actual words people are actually saying.
2. His attempts to control the game are incredibly manipulative (as are some of his posts).
3. His butting in at various times is annoying at best (implies scummy at worst).
4. He's failed to answer my questions to him or discuss my rebuttals of his case. Which then links back to 1 and the whole fucking cycle starts again.
And that's not even getting into whether he was or wasn't rolefishing, or anything he might have posted on 3-4.
It's not like those were posted a long time ago.
In post 252, Shinobi wrote:Okay, let's move on from the fact that I think that question is dumb and I'll give you an answer even though I really don't want to:
Because ISOing players during day 1 isn't going to produce much in the way of findings, especially when you can just read the thread and glean the exact same information but with better context. Using an ISO this early is needless busywork and it's just generally better to ask questions and play the game. Even if you didn't want to talk much, reading the thread is still better because looking at a pure ISO doesn't give you the same quality of read because of a lack of context.
And that isn't even getting into the fact that nothing of importance has actually warranted an ISO dive, in my opinion.
So how does this answer make me readable in any way? How does this help you figure out my alignment?
Why didn't you want to give me an answer?
It's bringing some of your thought process to the fore. It'll also be helpful later if I decide to meta you.
In post 253, Josh_B wrote:TOWN CASE for MS:
Option1. MS is a VT looking to get recruited into the mason thread.
Possibilities:
1. The masons believe him and recruit him, at the same time scum kills him.
2. The masons don't recruit him because he may be NK'd, so they choose someone else, and scum NK him.
3. The masons recruit MS and the scum kill someone else because they are trying to outwit the masons.
Option2. MS is a scum trying to out the Masons.
Possibilities:
1. The Masons attempt to recruit MS, their actions fail and MS is lynched as conf scum.
2. The Masons do not attempt to recruit MS, and it is impossible for him to get NK'd.
Option 3: MS is a Scum trying to get recruited in a suicide mission.
There are 3 Scum in this setup, and the sacrifice of 1 to
A. prevent the Masons from recruiting anyone
B. out one or both Masons with what amounts to a Cop guilty
would hardly be a stretch.
The Masons may only attempt to recruit once, so if it fails that's it. That's the problem with what you've put out there.
Also WIFOM doesn't really count as a Town case, but ok.
In post 266, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It kind of defeats the object of questioning someone if someone else answers first and provides an answer for the person who the question was directed at.
QFT.
I'm not liking NPAU right now. I think he is my #1 lynch for today.
I could see joining you.
@Josh271: Orrrr maybe he's not confident enough to come up with his own reads yet and thus steals them indiscriminately?
In post 276, Zebulin wrote:JoshB:Well, he's scumreading me. I don't like his logic on me, which I am answering later in this post, but that doesn't mean he's scum. 21 posts is a good amount considering he replaced in.
Peabody:Doesn't like me either. I strongly disagree with post 259, considering that Iactually did explain me read. Does have a lot of content per post, but the logic is totally off.
Why does Peabody thinking you might be Scum mean he's Scum?
@npiau: See? THAT is what you thought I was doing.
I'm not.
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In post 319, Zebulin wrote:In post 318, Josh_B wrote:Zebulin, What do you think about the interactions between NPAU and GM?
I feel like their argument against each other is the other person's argument is bad, which a bad argument and circular logic. My gut says it's town vs town, but I'm not 100% sure. (Well, no one is except the scum or if they're the 2 masons.)
What? I'm saying he'snot reading my fucking posts.
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In post 346, Metal Sonic wrote:My vote is still on her. I don't see a problem
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I don't think I agree with this.
For me it's mostly a tone thing - his general posting is pretty null.
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If you consider something like a votecount to be similar to be a real post, then I sure have been posting elsewhere.
My technical difficulties have been resolved. Have restarted working on the reads. Wednesday is my at-school day, so I'm mildly tapped out atm but it should happen by/during tomorrow.
From what I remember of what I had before:
Zeb or whoever is in that slot is Town still, Sonic and npiau are still Scum.
Toffee and Mala lean Town.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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Which is why your top (and only) 3 scumreads in your post 905 Suburban Warfare readslist were TOTALLY NOT ALL TOWN OR ANYTHING, NOPE.
And it's not like the majority of your votes in that game were on Town or anything, NUH-UH.
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I'm not the one who's falsely argued 100% efficacious scumlists.
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In post 591, Malakittens wrote:GM
if you are town, indeed town, then do something other than defend yourself from Ms
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Look, I have a life outside of mafia.
There are 6 people on my wagon and I only have townreads on 2 of them. uct is null and the rest look like scum to me.
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Short version of readslist, since everyone's so goddamned desperate and shit:
Town (L>G): Malakittens, BlueBloodedToffee, Scripten, Josh_B
Null (T>S): Huntress, Peabody, ucitron00
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In post 648, nopointinactingup wrote:In post 639, goodmorning wrote:Look, I have a life outside of mafia.
There are 6 people on my wagon and I only have townreads on 2 of them. uct is null and the rest look like scum to me.
When half the people on your wagon look like Scum, it makes you feel real good about yourself.
SO you don't see anything wrong with concluding there's 3 scum on your wagon? That's a lazy read to me and it proves that you're not trying to find out who scum is, meaning you're scum.
Yeahhhhhhh you're being ridiculous.
I had scumreads on you and Sonic long before my wagon, and my scumread on hephaestus is mainly based on him being 100% useless.
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In post 655, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:@MS & Mala- Which one of 637, 639 and 640 made you suddenly feel like GM wasn't scum anymore?
MS, you have been pushing for a GM lynch pretty much all day, it's within your grasp, and you unvote? What is that about? Did somebody say earlier that GM/MS was a possible scum-team? I could see that.
Mala was second on the wagon as well and then she suddenly jumps off with no explanation. A bus gone wrong?
@GM- What do you make of MS and Mala's actions?
To be honest I don't really know.
I've had my thoughts on the indicativeness of votes/unvotes shaken a bit recently.
In post 662, uctriton00 wrote:This is a good enough post to make Scripten town if NPAU was lynched and flipped scum today.
Scripten is already Town, did you miss the memo?
In post 663, hephaestus wrote:
In post 657, goodmorning wrote: my scumread on hephaestus is mainly based on him being 100% useless.
You're a funny gal
When we talk about effort, we talk about frequency of posting and numbers/lengths of posts. Anything related to those is non-indicative.
When we talk about someone not contributing any content, that's scummy.
In post 675, Peabody wrote:I'd like to see more from her, and this might be unfair, but it feels to me when I consider GM in this game, that she's in a constant state of not being current in the thread.
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In post 695, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 685, goodmorning wrote:
To be honest I don't really know.
I've had my thoughts on the indicativeness of votes/unvotes shaken a bit recently.
Can you do any better than this?
If I could I would have.
Can you explain your town-read on Mala please?
Sure.
For a start, her first post reflects a lot of the same thoughts I'd been having up to that point, though I was pretty vocal about them.
The questions she's asked have been fairly on point.
The way she's engaging with the game is not the same as the way she engages as Scum. No, this is not a thing that's easy to fake.
She's visibly reassessed several times.
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In post 698, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 697, goodmorning wrote:
For a start, her first post reflects a lot of the same thoughts I'd been having up to that point, though I was pretty vocal about them.
The questions she's asked have been fairly on point.
The way she's engaging with the game is not the same as the way she engages as Scum. No, this is not a thing that's easy to fake.
She's visibly reassessed several times.
(Plus she could probably have pushed a lynch through on me without taking too much flak.)
Sheeping you doesn't make her town.
Can you provide me some examples of her on point questioning.
Disregarding meta-read.
Who has she reassessed and how is this alignment indicative?
No, but having a similar thought process might.
Sure. 89 is full of them.
I'm sure you are, but it'd be dishonest of me not to mention it since it's a big part of my townread.
Zeb, me, Josh, just from what I remember. Scum tend to be a bit less malleable than Town. Reassessing displays 1)public thought process 2)genuine attempts to solve the game.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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In post 701, nopointinactingup wrote:In post 652, Shinobi wrote:This game gets my fullest attention tomorrow.
Why did NPAU put GM to L-1? His vote moves around so much for such faulty reasons. Ugh.
SO you don't think I should wagon my scum read? I already mentioned why she's scum.
I'm going to point out that your "case" on me appears to be "I don't like 29, wah."
Yet your first vote on me, which came after 29, was "a pressure vote."
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In post 703, Metal Sonic wrote:Gm best lynch, npau safest lynch
What in the flying fuck does that even mean?
In post 704, Josh_B wrote:that unvote.
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Minor readslist shakeups:
Town (L>G): Malakittens, Peabody, BlueBloodedToffee, Josh_B, Scripten
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No, but I think you've missed the point of Josh's post. Whether that's deliberate I don't know, but if it is it's disappointing.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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In post 727, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hmm, can you elaborate?
Yeah, he meant, I believe, that if Shinobi were to begin posting content and being active that it would make people townread him.
It would be disappointing to me if you were misrepping Josh deliberately because it would be quite scummy, and I don't want you to be Scum.
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Nothing I've seen so far makes me want Sonic lynched any less.
I'd like to see a bit more of Huntress, tbh.
Still waiting for dave to post something real.
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In post 764, davesaz wrote:So I guess the one I didn't notice leaves Shinobi back at the previous point of just a scum lean and near the top of that list. The reason it doesn't swing all the way to town for me is that scum could make the same point that Shinobi did in order to cast doubts on the townpeople on the NPAU wagon to deflect suspicion from a buddy.
I see. I don't agree but I do understand. Thanks for answering.
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In post 784, uctriton00 wrote:In post 764, davesaz wrote:The reason it doesn't swing all the way to town for me is that scum could make the same point that Shinobi did in order to cast doubts on the townpeople on the NPAU wagon to deflect suspicion from a buddy.
Do you see town motivation in Shinobi's posts, esp. the latest ones where he started stabbing at me?
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In seriousness, there's something I really don't get here. When I get poked by people, my first reaction is "OK, explain, let's talk." It's not to instantly say "there's no Town motivation in this."
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