Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Sondam]

First.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Sciences or none imo Arts helps scum way more than town. I'm leaning Sciences so we can all do planning but that could end in mass chaos
~Maria

[Sondam]

VOTE: None
Yes science helps town but it also helps scum a lot to plan I'd rather leave the game state as it is there's more town then scum these don't help us and we can get better why give scum any wiggle room at all
~Maria

[Sondam]

@Titus I refuse to go another game coordinating night actions unnecessarily after The Thing Mafia. The Thing was different in that everyone's role was public knowledge so it made sense to coordinate night actions and even then, scum had a pretty easy time slipping through the cracks because of every night action being public.

What you're suggesting gives scum a roadmap as to how to proceed during the night JUST like it did in that game.

I still have PTSD
~Maria

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I fully expect Gerry to want to take any wonder that has kill in the name....I may not stop him (B
Anyone who is voting art you're insane that's a pro scum choice and science is already explained on why it's trash now we gonna take 10 pages explaining this?
~Maria

[Sondam]

I fully expect Gerry to want to take any wonder that has kill in the name....I may not stop him (B
Anyone who is voting art you're insane that's a pro scum choice and science is already explained on why it's trash now we gonna take 10 pages explaining this?
~Maria

What do you think of Titus' case for Sciences?

Lol you call it a case that's cute It's still bad. Why give scum any options at all when we can give them none.
~Maria

[Sondam]

I don't think anything here for a pick is a scumclaim aslong as you bring a case for your actions nothing is never a scumclaim unless you pass up an amazing power and none of these are really amazing
~Maria

[Sondam]

I don't think anything here for a pick is a scumclaim aslong as you bring a case for your actions nothing is never a scumclaim unless you pass up an amazing power and none of these are really amazing
~Maria

Really, there's two that I want and a third necessity for someone to get.

What do you think of Vecna?

What is the first line referring to?

He's being himself null bringing up obv statements that for some reason need explaining.

[Sondam]

Low power game = better for scum

You act like this is the only chance were going to get at choosing something there will clearly be better options so why take something that's "eh" and iffy when we can wait and get something great
~Maria

[Sondam]

I don't think anything here for a pick is a scumclaim aslong as you bring a case for your actions nothing is never a scumclaim unless you pass up an amazing power and none of these are really amazing
~Maria

Really, there's two that I want and a third necessity for someone to get.

What do you think of Vecna?

What is the first line referring to?

He's being himself null bringing up obv statements that for some reason need explaining.

The first line refers to none of the powers being great. There's two awesome and a third necessity.

Why does Vecna over explaining mean null for you?

P.S. Math, we're going to talk on PerV. We're ignoring Vecna until dayphase starts, if not later.

He's saying something everyone should understand but doesn't so he explains it so null he's not doing much but stating obv facts.
Some of these powers have there ups yes but the cons outweigh the pros and we can just wait to get something better this isn't the last chance we'll get to vote on this
~Maria

[Sondam]

We won't let cowardly scientists determine our actions. They may feature low cunning but they are incapable of decisive action. What we need is leadership. Oppenheimer may have discovered the atomic bomb, but it was Truman who authorized the launches. We have to make the hard calls ourselves. Never let the scientists tell you the odds. We the hardworking, the talented, the men and women with true grit and determination, will choose and live with our decisions.

I like this guy
~Maria

[Sondam]

Leon is scum by the way he's already acting way dif then he was in dota mafia.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Being able to see things before we can build let's scum plan how they want to do this make arguments and steer things the way they think is best
If we don't know something they don't know something and it's much better that way this won't be the last time we can fund something so let's just wait for something better
~Maria

[Sondam]

Take it from a group of people who did all the planning they needed for a scum win
And take it from the people who had to deal with it on the town side aswell town lost both times a ton of planning was put into something along these lines
(Pick your power and the thing)
This is a no go
~Maria

[Sondam]

Sciences

or none imo Arts helps scum way more than town.

I'm leaning Sciences

so we can all do planning but that could end in mass chaos
~Maria

VOTE: None
Yes science helps town but it also helps scum a lot to plan I'd rather leave the game state as it is there's more town then scum these don't help us and we can get better why give scum any wiggle room at all
~Maria

He's saying

something everyone should understand but doesn't

so he explains it so null he's not doing much but stating obv facts.
Some of these powers have there ups yes but the cons outweigh the pros and we can just wait to get something better this isn't the last chance we'll get to vote on this
~Maria

Leans sciences. Changes mind. Discredits those favoring sciences as stupid.

Interesting when I call you out you just post this funny how it works. I said I was leaning science yes but given the arguments and logic shown it's outright stupid

[Sondam]

Im not going to tell scum what they can do to gain an advantage.

Ive thought about it, I see a VERY CLEAR/STRONG way to abuse it.

Those that have played with me before know that im pretty decent at theorizing working scum plans.

Scum gain a BIG advantage with science.

Theres other reasons that have not been mentioned yet. Im not going to mention them.

I would think people in pick your power would understand best why nothing is the best pick after that buttt
~Maria

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Was gonna say I didn't get a Role PM but i wasnt logged into the hydra account l0l

~G

[Sondam]

i joined just in time, it's out of RVS. Has the inferior head of this hydra talked yet? (haha i know someone is gonna say 'ur taking now!!!1!') too lazy to look

~G

[Sondam]

On page 11 atm I'm feeling something along the lines of:

Tr micky
scummy Luv
Scum Drixx Leon

[Sondam]

^ Maria

[Sondam]

Still wondering why Yuri felt she needed justification to vote Science
~Maria

[Sondam]

Sweet jesus if I just say Titus has the biggest dick do I get a tr too cause that seems like how it works
~Maria

[Sondam]

Bee boy the guy who was aggro af to science then goes "I'm just bored" and votes none...
I have way too many sr's rn Gerry told me he wanted tree stump since we normally get lynched early but seeing how this is going seems unlikely I'll talk to him on it
~Maria

[Sondam]

VOTE: Uzi
~Maria

[Sondam]

The Deo what is your read progression on my slot?

Ew

^
I'd vote about 6 people right now
~Maria

[Sondam]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

[Sondam]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

[Sondam]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

Works for me
VOTE: Leon

[Sondam]

Micky be my mason partner I promise I aren't no magna
~Maria

[Sondam]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

Works for me
VOTE: Leon

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

-Nebby

a vote.

[Sondam]

oooo scary what's next you gonna vote me?
~Maria

[Sondam]

Add me to that townblock where's Kison and Dream SOMEONE GET THEM IN HERE
Also nebby the only thing that scares me is boys
~Maria

[Sondam]

Also I need a hug buddy :c
~Maria

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Add me to that townblock where's Kison and Dream SOMEONE GET THEM IN HERE
Also nebby the only thing that scares me is boys
~Maria

I dont know yet. Get gerry in here so I can peer into his soul some

Gerry is on Vacation for 2 weeks so he'll only pop in from time to time on day 1 he should be here after though
I'm still gonna bug him to post though.
~Maria

[Sondam]

ffs, i'm gonna read what i missed, and then get back to yall

~G

[Sondam]

Btw reminder not to give any indication of whether you're going for a role today and which role you'd choose.

And when the roles are distributed, don't give any indication of whether you got one or not.

The less scum know about the location of the power roles, the less successful they'll be at neutralizing them.

^ forced.

I mean, that's obvious with any role in any mafia game. Why did you feel the need to point this out?

[Sondam]

It could just be wifom though.

~G

[Sondam]

My scumread on Creature is basically like several of his posts are this sort of confused "I don't know whats going on" and that just seems p fake to me. Though Titus' "Nero ignored the Max wagon" "He wasn't even a wagon when I voted Creature." "Welll...welll...you are ignoring it now!" Games with Titus would be a lot less frustrating if she'd just take being proven wrong in stride instead of trying to argue that she's right all the time.

I kinda agree with this. But, still want him to post a bit more. he even stated he would be posting useless things for whatever reason.
~G

[Sondam]

Btw reminder not to give any indication of whether you're going for a role today and which role you'd choose.

And when the roles are distributed, don't give any indication of whether you got one or not.

The less scum know about the location of the power roles, the less successful they'll be at neutralizing them.

^ forced.

I mean, that's obvious with any role in any mafia game. Why did you feel the need to point this out?

Was this Gerry head?

PEdit: yes

Ugh I don't feel so good about this slot anymore

Okay, I'll bite. Why? Because i'm pointing out something that seems to be very pointless to day?

~G

[Sondam]

Even if they talk about it, it is no guarantee they will get or choose that one they are talking about. Redgardless of that, there is no need to say that "when the roles are distributed, don't give any indication of whether you got one or not." that seems very forced to me. Like no shit, thats basically outing as PR when not needed to.

~G

[Sondam]

I don't really care if you dont like my posts, I'm gonna post what I want and what I think is forced or not. Or what doesn't make sense to me. I'm not gonna try and make my posts look good. I get mislynched day 1 all the time anyway, so saying things like "grrr i dont like this slot anymore" over something like that is dumb lol.

~G

[Sondam]

Yes, but that doesn't mean they will talk abut it TOMORROW. When they get their actual role.

~G

[Sondam]

I really don't like Garrybote pointing out the wifom there.
Like it sounds like scum trying to discredit more things.

Imagine having reads this bad lol

~G

[Sondam]

Okay, then vote me then. As I said I get mislynched all the time day 1 cause ppl are shit at reading me lol

~G

[Sondam]

My reads = mickey mouse said something forced af

I'm iffy on Creature, but want him to post more.

I can see why Maria told me to read Leon and he is a bit scummy to me.

~G

[Sondam]

Garrybote I like the Maxous wagon mroe atm.
-Nebby

But you just said I'm scum, why does that matter that you like a wagon

~G

[Sondam]

You can stop the fake frustration. I'm just taking notes.

ok this post is fake lmfao. This guy has been in games where I've been more upset. He's probably mafia throwing shade`

~G

[Sondam]

Why is Maxous scum? Why are you so sure they are scum over me that you won't vote someone you just said is scum.

~G

[Sondam]

VOTE: Nero Cain

Why are you scum reading Nero? I have a feeling it's for him agreeing with The DEO and his other reasoning for not voting None but I want to make sure.

VOTE: Spiffeh

Yup.
Felt some of his arguments came across a little disingenuous, didn't like some of his passive-aggressive scumreads and didn't like his fear mongering because of how a town lost a previous game. Felt off
Random vote on Nero doesn't help

ok but like. uzi basically basically said the same thing in a different way

[Sondam]

Why is Maxous scum? Why are you so sure they are scum over me that you won't vote someone you just said is scum.

~G

VOTE: Sondham

Do you believe Maxous is scum? Or are you trying to throw more town votes onto his wagon?

~Titus

Uhhh. waht. Are you reading wrong or just trying to jump on the sudden attention on me.

I never said anything about Maxous was scum or if he was town. I clearly asked Alisae why they wouldnt vote ME when they said I was scum.

[Sondam]

Why is Maxous scum? Why are you so sure they are scum over me that you won't vote someone you just said is scum.

~G

VOTE: Sondham

Do you believe Maxous is scum? Or are you trying to throw more town votes onto his wagon?

~Titus

Uhhh. waht. Are you reading wrong or just trying to jump on the sudden attention on me.

I never said anything about Maxous was scum or if he was town. I clearly asked Alisae why they wouldnt vote ME when they said I was scum.

What is your read of us? You've been saying a lot of negative things about a lot of people and having zero followup.

What is your Maxous read? Why are you saying Alisae hydra should vote you?

I have no read on you. Haven't even paid attention to you because I've been focused on specific people Maria wanted me to read into. And OK, saying negatives and getting rebuttles are the point of the game of mafia, welcome to the game.

I have no read on Max currently as I said I've just been reading certain things. And I clearly just fkin said why. Are you not reading? Nebby said I was scum, why would Nebby not vote someone they call scum. Which is why i was asking.

DO you understand how you are mistaken now?
~G

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Why is Maxous scum? Why are you so sure they are scum over me that you won't vote someone you just said is scum.

~G

VOTE: Sondham

Do you believe Maxous is scum? Or are you trying to throw more town votes onto his wagon?

~Titus

Uhhh. waht. Are you reading wrong or just trying to jump on the sudden attention on me.

I never said anything about Maxous was scum or if he was town. I clearly asked Alisae why they wouldnt vote ME when they said I was scum.

What is your read of us? You've been saying a lot of negative things about a lot of people and having zero followup.

What is your Maxous read? Why are you saying Alisae hydra should vote you?

I have no read on you. Haven't even paid attention to you because I've been focused on specific people Maria wanted me to read into. And OK, saying negatives and getting rebuttles are the point of the game of mafia, welcome to the game.

I have no read on Max currently as I said I've just been reading certain things. And I clearly just fkin said why. Are you not reading? Nebby said I was scum, why would Nebby not vote someone they call scum. Which is why i was asking.

DO you understand how you are mistaken now?
~G

And who are those people that MariaR asked you about?

The game of mafia isn't about just shading people randomly, which you've done. MariaR also voted Maxous previously, so I find it hard to believe that they weren't a name on your catchup.

Your slot has systemically been moving to attack my townreads for awhile now, but retreats pretty frequently too.

~Titus

The only people I told Gerry to look at were Luv/Leon and this was before voting stage I msg'd him a list of people I scumread so I don't know if he took that as "look at these people" your vote feels really out of place
~Maria

[Sondam]

And who are those people that MariaR asked you about?

The game of mafia isn't about just shading people randomly, which you've done. MariaR also voted Maxous previously, so I find it hard to believe that they weren't a name on your catchup.

Your slot has systemically been moving to attack my townreads for awhile now, but retreats pretty frequently too.

~Titus

Was told to read Leon and Luv. She wasn't even currently voting Max right now. Why have you decided to come after us instead of the other people on the wagon? While I bring up this point, let me point out the next.

So are you going to ignore the fact that your initial reason for voting us was misinformed and actually wrong? Or are you just going to make up another reason to keep the vote now because you want a vote on us?

Who exactly have I been shading? Other than just speaking about what i'm seeing. I've only done it for one page and it was things that were said in the moment as I was messaging. so explain how this was 'systematical' Also where were the retrats? Please quote them. Because if you're talking about my head, this is the first time i've been in the game engaging.

~G

[Sondam]

The time she messaged me to check those 2 was before she voted Max, obviously.

Again, your original reason for voting us was a misunderstanding. why not point that out?

[Sondam]

~G

[Sondam]

What are the others? The case he had on Spi?

I actually never told him to look at Spi I tr spi I don't see why he sr's it I'll have to ask

How me and Gerry's convo basically went like this (I have to para phrase)
Maria: Leon is my top sr Luv is a second scum read
Gerry: How come you sr them
(I never answered cause I was asleep)
Maria: Look at leons reaction and I also sr ____ and ___
Gerry: Okie I'll look
~Maria

[Sondam]

"Spi" is really not a nickname conducive to my username

I know I pref micky
~Maria

[Sondam]

The time she messaged me to check those 2 was before she voted Max, obviously.

Again, your original reason for voting us was a misunderstanding. why not point that out?

It is not an understanding.

You've been systemically attacking my townreads for unfounded reasons for awhile

and peeling votes away from Maxous.

Unfound reasons? Please quote. Also, you just lied.

VOTE: Sondham

Do you believe Maxous is scum?

Or are you trying to throw more town votes onto his wagon?

~Titus

Titus just contradicted herself, everyone. Her original reason was that I was trying to put more town votes on Maxous. Then she just stated that I've been peeling away votes from his wagon. I think this proves that she's just trying to put pressure on us because our name was being spoken in a negative spot.

Can anyone else tell me what they think? Cause she quite clearly contradicted herself.

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Hi. everyone here check that The DEO contradiction i just posted pls.

He reason for voting us in the first place was flawed, and clearly she tried to cover it up and contradicted herself in the process.

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Contradictions like that = scum 99% of the time. Especially when you're trying to explain your scumread on someone. Who cares about my maxous read. The original post had nothing to do with Maxous, it was about why Nebby was not voting me when they just called me scum

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that The DEO clearly contradicted themselves when trying to explain a scumread. lol

~G

[Sondam]

Hi. everyone here check that The DEO contradiction i just posted pls.

He reason for voting us in the first place was flawed, and clearly she tried to cover it up and contradicted herself in the process.

~Gerry

So you're not actually going to answer what your intent is regarding Maxous. Instead, you're outright shading my intent to solve you. You could just you know answer the question.

You could answer why most of the people you shaded are my hard townreads.

You could answer your current reads. Instead, you want a semantic debate.

It all cared about solving your intent. Now, are you just pissed off you cannot shade the thread or what?

I already did, you're just saying that to try and deflect the fact that you slipped up and contradicted yourself.

I said that I had not read them yet. You already stated you saw me post that. So why do you keep asking?

~G

[Sondam]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

You never asked Gerry to check you here?

you clearly saw it here as you asked maria why she didn't ask.

~G

[Sondam]

Hi. everyone here check that The DEO contradiction i just posted pls.

He reason for voting us in the first place was flawed, and clearly she tried to cover it up and contradicted herself in the process.

~Gerry

So you're not actually going to answer what your intent is regarding Maxous. Instead, you're outright shading my intent to solve you. You could just you know answer the question.

You could answer why most of the people you shaded are my hard townreads.

You could answer your current reads. Instead, you want a semantic debate.

It all cared about solving your intent. Now, are you just pissed off you cannot shade the thread or what?

You don't seem to be trying to solve our slot at all more so as just attacking gerry because he has scumreads are your townreads and your first thought is to vote us? Wouldn't you rather know the reasons he has a scumread on your townread instead of just voting and pressing?
~Maria

[Sondam]

Nah, don't run now that you've slipped up and contradicted yourself. I already explained all the things you're trying to bring up now and you know it.

~Gerry

[Sondam]

The time she messaged me to check those 2 was before she voted Max, obviously.

Again, your original reason for voting us was a misunderstanding. why not point that out?

It is not an understanding.

You've been systemically attacking my townreads for unfounded reasons for awhile

and peeling votes away from Maxous.

Unfound reasons? Please quote. Also, you just lied.

VOTE: Sondham

Do you believe Maxous is scum?

Or are you trying to throw more town votes onto his wagon?

~Titus

Titus just contradicted herself, everyone. Her original reason was that I was trying to put more town votes on Maxous. Then she just stated that I've been peeling away votes from his wagon. I think this proves that she's just trying to put pressure on us because our name was being spoken in a negative spot.

Can anyone else tell me what they think? Cause she quite clearly contradicted herself.

~Gerry

Contradiction when trying to explain a scumread = scum. Now trying to run away when I caught you.

VOTE: The DEO

[Sondam]

Hi. everyone here check that The DEO contradiction i just posted pls.

He reason for voting us in the first place was flawed, and clearly she tried to cover it up and contradicted herself in the process.

~Gerry

So you're not actually going to answer what your intent is regarding Maxous. Instead, you're outright shading my intent to solve you. You could just you know answer the question.

You could answer why most of the people you shaded are my hard townreads.

You could answer your current reads. Instead, you want a semantic debate.

It all cared about solving your intent. Now, are you just pissed off you cannot shade the thread or what?

You don't seem to be trying to solve our slot at all more so as just attacking gerry because he has scumreads are your townreads and your first thought is to vote us? Wouldn't you rather know the reasons he has a scumread on your townread instead of just voting and pressing?
~Maria

You've had all day to explain yourself. All your slot is done is pot shots. A vote should help. It isn't.

I am not stopping you from explaining all the pot shots you have already taken.

You don't want to talk to Gerry fine I sent him back to his cage talk to me were the same slot you're saying pot shots when I think it's pointing out bad reasons
~Maria

[Sondam]

Can you quote what you find pot shots and what you think needs explaining?
~Maria

[Sondam]

So garrybote/Maria.
You obviously scumread The Deo.
But you took so long to vote them.
What gives my dude?

How? I clearly just voted them. I didn't even scumread them until they slipped. At first I wanted more opinions on it, but no one spoke so i just voted them.

~G

[Sondam]

People were talking but ignoring our conversation. I wanted a second opinion, so I just talked to Maria instead.

Nebby why are you not worried about the fact that she just contradicted herself trying to explain a scumread. That is scum 99% of the time. Why haven't you even spoken about it yet?

~G

[Sondam]

In the first 2 posts I was making a joke with micky if you wanted to look at the buddy thing I'd shocked you didn't quote the one where I outright cleary said I was buddying him I don't think I was shading you in that post more so as your reasoning was weak so I laughed at it getting called a case
~Maria

[Sondam]

I was reading them hold on now I think the only one of those I would call a shade throw was the one where I said do I have to say you have a big dick to get a townread because whenever someone strokes your ego you seem to tr them (drixx for one) I don't see how you call my Leon things shade when one was making a statement and the other was a fact, How is a naked vote on Uzi and a vote on Max Shade?
~Maria

[Sondam]

Gerry didn't scumread Titus until the contradiction btw. I'm still trying to figure Titus out I get a bit of scum meta but I'm still nullish
~Maria

[Sondam]

I'll answer after my shower

[Sondam]

I am back. Titus what's the dif between shade and an accusation to you? Of course I'm putting some of those people in a bad light I scumread them why wouldn't I
~Maria

[Sondam]

I am back. Titus what's the dif between shade and an accusation to you? Of course I'm putting some of those people in a bad light I scumread them why wouldn't I
~Maria

An accusation has teeth, a push to get someone lynched. Shade just makes them look worse without any accountability or fixed position. For instance, your Drixx is scum comment that never was followed up on, and your push on players whenever popular.

I still don't know what your stance on Maxous is.

p-edit 905. We're done talking until you answer it.

Drixx comment on "Listen to Titus cause Titus is a god" was really really bad. Same with Yuri Yuri made one really bad comment and that's it If I see something I find bad I'll comment on it and so will Gerry that's just how we play.
My stance on Max is scummy Gerry doesn't have one ~Maria

[Sondam]

I'm trying to see how I can explain this in a dif way but I really can't I'll say I think this person is scum for ___ reason or just say this comment sucks that's how I work if you think that's shade were just not gonna see eye to eye
~Maria

[Sondam]

Well I'm speak about it now.
Is it a contradiction or a slip?
If it's a slip, how is it a slip?
-Nebby.

...

...

Who is this referring too? If it's us don't ask me I'd have to drag Gerry back on the thread
~Maria

[Sondam]

I think Notice and Luv interaction was TVT tbh I wanna speak to mathblade head of DEO she has meta on me (so does Titus but she ignores it) and I think will be more reasonable to talk to but my main reason for scumreading Titus is when you show her logic as scum on something a lot of the time she plugs her eyes and goes "LALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU"
~Maria

[Sondam]

Getting semi sck if getting lynched day 1 and 2 as town all the time when no one has gave any reasoning for there scumread on us (Titus tried but I proved that false)
Leon still needs to die
~Maria

[Sondam]

Akane and Nebby (Alisae & Malachite) was towny now scumish
Fro99er null
Nero Cain null
Yuri Towny
beeboy scummy
The DEO (Titus & Mathblade) null
Leonshade Scum
Elbirn null
Creature Towny
Drixx null/scummy
Julius Caesar (Aeronaut & Pine) Who?
Lil Uzi Vert towny
Vecna Town
ssbm_Kyouko Who?
ooba Who?
Maxous null
PeregrineV null
Sondam (MariaR & gerryoat) losers
NoticeMeSenpai (JaeReed & mastina) Towny
Albert B. Rampage null
Spiffeh Town
~Maria

[Sondam]

Lol you think I omgus that's cute Alisae also pere wtf do you mean "a lot tr"
were the biggest wagon right now if anything people sr us more then they tr us I don't even know why people sr us no one said anything besides Titus also Nebby this isn't my vote this is Gerry's he think's DEO is hard scum I'm null on it so I'll trust his judgement if I had my own vote I'd be voting Leon right now
Like you people say it's shade comment when it's legit making accusations I do that all the time and so does he so how is it scummy this game compared to other games like what the fuck thinking is all this
~Maria

[Sondam]

The 3 things people always blanket blame on is Omgus whiteknighting and "fake" it's really really annoying
~Maria

[Sondam]

I like how you say you don't care for something. If you really didn't care you wouldn't have said anything even if it's not omgus
Aslo btw that's your first and ONLY point you made so don't act like you made others
That's not a contradiction He said they slipped by making a contradiction we say that on EM all the time but good try I expected better from you.
~Maria

[Sondam]

@Uzi, I want to believe you are town, but shading me for not agreeing with the wagon you want isn't cool. I just happen to disagree with your assertion. The behavior you describe is too dumb to be AI. I am not ruling out you being right, but opposing wagons would tell us more IMO.

If you want to be on the same wagon, why not Sondham?

@Sondham, Stop talking about who is annoying, get in sync if you can, and case someone.

You know for a fact that's not how I play.

Lol you think I omgus that's cute Alisae also pere wtf do you mean "a lot tr"
were the biggest wagon right now if anything people sr us more then they tr us I don't even know why people sr us no one said anything besides Titus also Nebby this isn't my vote this is Gerry's he think's DEO is hard scum I'm null on it so I'll trust his judgement if I had my own vote I'd be voting Leon right now
Like you people say it's shade comment when it's legit making accusations I do that all the time and so does he so how is it scummy this game compared to other games like what the fuck thinking is all this
~Maria

Sondam (5): The DEO, Elbirn, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Frogger

You're at L-6, not L-0, so some townreads on you exist.

If you were total scum I'd be voting you now.

If Gerry is out of town for two weeks, why don't you vote who you need to?

I trust his judgement were a team and if he has as big a sr as he's telling me I'll keep the vote it's called a partner ship

God being town is so fucking awful cause I have to answer these half ass remarks and pay attention where as scum I can just skim read and act like I'm being a pro

[Sondam]

Pere the way you worded it was like saying we have a huge amount of people townreading us when I can name 3 so fix your wording
~Maria

[Sondam]

I need to step back before I rage cause I'm getting real pissy for the fact were even a wagon for the 3rd game in a row where no case was brought up and half the players here should know this isn't my scum game and are either being dumb or scummy to see it holy fuck If I was scum I would've played dumb and pushed science zzz
~Maria

[Sondam]

Leon sucm
~Maria

[Sondam]

Pere the way you worded it was like saying we have a huge amount of people townreading us when I can name 3 so fix your wording
~Maria

Not trying to rage you, but I will say you can't act like being townread is a right when it's something you earn (or not) each and every game.

It's more so I'm upset that I have no idea what were doing wrong. I don't think we've done anything really scummy sure were a stubborn duo but stubbornness is really NAI

@Sondham 1180 part 1 (Phone posting and omitting irrelevant parts is a pain in the ass).

I don't care if it's how you play or not. If you keep getting wagoned for the same behavior, you should stop doing it and adapt. I want to see you take a strong stance on something or eat rope. You and your hydra partner need to speak with one voice and sort shit out if town. Right now, all I am getting is shade tossing, refusal to commit, dissonance and rage.

TITUS. YOU. KNOW. MY. SCUM. GAME. AND. MY. TOWN. GAME. SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ACTING LIKE I NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING WHEN THIS IS HOW I ACT AS TOWN
~Maria

[Sondam]

Well I'm speak about it now.
Is it a contradiction or a slip?
If it's a slip, how is it a slip?
-Nebby.

Sorry, i fell asleep. but it is both. a contradiction when explaining a scumread is considered a slip because there is no reason to fake a scumread as town. a contradiction by itself is something town can do rarely in other scenarios

~G

[Sondam]

I have made my stance on where my reads are and I'm waiting for Gerry on his the way we hydra is simple I get my reads he gets his we explain to each other how our reads work to together and we come to agreements/disagreements people say we should act like one unit but honestly this is us being one unit I am willing to change my play or explain more for the sake of clarity what I will not do is change myself to a point where I am not having fun I will tell you I think ____ post is bad and if I want to give detail I will if I don't want to at the moment cause I'm not feeling up for it or for the sake of not wanting to I won't you can say this is me being scum and avoiding it but quite honestly I just don't want to simple
~Maria

[Sondam]

You guys are redacts lmfao. She literally slipped. There is no reason for town to fuck up when giving a scumread on someone and have a contradiction on it. It's elementary logic. How is no one scumreading her. Stop just sheeping because of name and fucking look at the content

~G

[Sondam]

Just a quick question: what's your read on maxous?

He has the same posting style as a game i was in him that just finished. idk why people scumread him more. can you show me why?

[Sondam]

The time she messaged me to check those 2 was before she voted Max, obviously.

Again, your original reason for voting us was a misunderstanding. why not point that out?

It is not an understanding.

You've been systemically attacking my townreads for unfounded reasons for awhile

and peeling votes away from Maxous.

Unfound reasons? Please quote. Also, you just lied.

VOTE: Sondham

Do you believe Maxous is scum?

Or are you trying to throw more town votes onto his wagon?

~Titus

Titus just contradicted herself, everyone. Her original reason was that I was trying to put more town votes on Maxous. Then she just stated that I've been peeling away votes from his wagon. I think this proves that she's just trying to put pressure on us because our name was being spoken in a negative spot.

Can anyone else tell me what they think? Cause she quite clearly contradicted herself.

~Gerry

Anyone who is too lazy to find the contradiction. here

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Someone on the wagon tell me why they scumread maxous.

~G

[Sondam]

Yeah, Creature could be maf as well. His posting hasnt improved at all.
~Gerry

[Sondam]

^

what i did there in my post above, is shading.

Saying someone is scummy and giving a reason why, is not. Which is another thing Titus is wrong about

~Gerry

[Sondam]

How is pointing out why something or someone is being scummy. Just agreeing that someone is maf is shading.

~Gerry

[Sondam]

New theory: Yuri and Sondam are scum together with Spiff.

yes, i said that something my partner said was forced to draw attention to us. you got us.

~G

[Sondam]

The DEO and Creature are two mafs imo. Haven't asked Maria of her opinion yet on why i think so (on creature).

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Did not know there was a Julius Caesar in this game lol

~Gerry

[Sondam]

The way the votes are split like that between the three makes me wanna believe at least one of those are maf but, I'm more sure on The DEO or Creature being mafia

[Sondam]

~G

[Sondam]

Can we settle on a creature vote? i'm pretty sure everyone has been skeptical of him but no one really trying to wagon him

[Sondam]

~G

[Sondam]

The fuck. How do you TR The DEO after a contradiction about explaining a scumread. also how do you TR Creature? or even A&N who only shadowcasted and lampshaded after I tried pointing out the contradiction from The DEO

~G

[Sondam]

yeah his VCA is a bit weird in that sense i guess. i mean idk how he has that many townreads already.

~G

[Sondam]

Titus contradicting herself and having foot in mouth moments doesn't really surprise me.

I can see her just get too caught up in pressuring you and making points that conflict with each other.

How? Why would town have to be pressured by giving out reads? That makes no logical sense.

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Ok. If you're town, why would you ever have to lie about a reason you're scumreading someone?

~Gerry

[Sondam]

I had Albert B. Rampage, Drixx, Julius Caesar, Leonshade, Maxous, ooba and Sondam as my kill list.

only mafia kills. town lynches

[Sondam]

That was a good break from the thread....holy shit 22 pages fcuk that
~Maria

[Sondam]

Give me the tldr
~Maria

[Sondam]

Sondam (2):

Drixx, Creature

BWHAHAHAHA 2 Of our scumreads voting us the S H O C K
~Maria

[Sondam]

Oh Drixx is voting us for attacking the person he worships okay good to know nothing new
~Maria

[Sondam]

I was gonna vote A&N but the people on that wagon are so ew.
VOTE: A&N
When have I cared
~Maria

[Sondam]

lololol you act like townblocks work

[Sondam]

Did any of: The Deo, Spiffeh, Creature, Pere, agreed to that townblock I'm insta voting them?
Now tell me who's in it thanks.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Anyone in the group I named should know townblocks just lead to bad bad things (the thing mafia dota etc etc) so agreeing to it like...really?
~Maria

[Sondam]

Also Maria I have a pretty strong town read on A&N. Can you explain why you're scum reading them?

I had a tr on them pre vote phase but now I feel like there playing the "I don't really care" card so much that it feels fake to me
~Maria

[Sondam]

Titus you call it shading but in my mind my actions are making statements/accusations not shading it's never my intent I've done it a few times yes but a lot of what I do is me calling out posts I don't like I think it's just a conflict in playstyles. The whole thing with your science case I said "You call it a case that's funny" the reason I said that was I found it weak that's all I wasn't trying to discredit your work I just thought it was weak.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Anyone in the group I named should know townblocks just lead to bad bad things (the thing mafia dota etc etc) so agreeing to it like...really?
~Maria

A townblock isn't really something players agree to. Stating it outright lets everyone know what was going on. For instance, in Smackdown, I was the only real TRed scum but Creature (I think it was Creature) wanted to extend the block artificially, so I snuck in Grey and zefiend, which allowed for your endgame lynch.

The organic townblock is probably something like me/Uzi/Frogger/Vecna/A and N. Drixx and PeregrineV are not in it, but not harrassed based on mutual trust by me and Vecna to agree to disagree. Like I know Vecna and I would piss each other off by trying to lynch each other's high townreads when we can stick to organic scumreads and fight tomorrow.

Oh we can talk about smackdown? OKAY THANK GOD I WAS DANCING AROUND THE TOPIC. But yeah after those I'm shocked people aren't more worried about townblocks.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Titus you call it shading but in my mind my actions are making statements/accusations not shading it's never my intent I've done it a few times yes but a lot of what I do is me calling out posts I don't like I think it's just a conflict in playstyles. The whole thing with your science case I said "You call it a case that's funny" the reason I said that was I found it weak that's all I wasn't trying to discredit your work I just thought it was weak.
~Maria

And the reason you are voting obvious town over Yuri is what?

I don't see why Yuri is obv scum I've seen people say "oh Yuri is scum" but I haven't seen anyone say why A&N's attitude feels fake to me. Maybe you can shed some light on me even if I've been getting WWE Titus vibes (aka I try and reach out to you and you just retreat and be stubborn and make me go into a mess)
~Maria

[Sondam]

Like to me my actions are very clear and you just keep shaking your head you act like my ate is blah and you act like I'm ot doing anything but I think my logic make sense and you're just closing yourself off to me
~Maria

[Sondam]

Still trying to wonder if this is hotel Elbirn or scum it feels like he's missing that aggro edge that was there beofre (I'm using meta because the content he brings is very lackluster to me) <is that a shade throw I don't fucking know anymoreeeee
Pedit: ewwwww bad vote

[Sondam]

I feel like I did something wrong and I have no idea what I did so I'm questioning every action I do when I just think I'm playing a game and my head shouldn't be this confused and now I'm RANTING
~Maria

[Sondam]

I don't bias read in the first place I take offense to that statement.
Can you quote the case please
~Maria

[Sondam]

Like to me my actions are very clear and you just keep shaking your head you act like my ate is blah and you act like I'm ot doing anything but I think my logic make sense and you're just closing yourself off to me
~Maria

I am very closed off to you. You were my one wrong townread in PyP. You were bussed to discredit me, according to Vecna. I was blocking quite effectively there and you would have been sussed out if I had lived long enough. Your play was well, but protecting the scumteam and bussing you was a smart move.

You know how you tricked me? AtE? You know what I am ignoring? AtE?

You want a townread, stop voting players who make their motivations clear and are probably town and go after scum.

Just because I ate as scum doesn't mean I don't do it as town I think my ate is easy to tell when it's genuine and when it's not but ate aside I'm just asking questions because I don't know what you want I'm getting asked to change my play in a way that's not fun for me but if I say no I'm scummy like what? I have emotions and the reason why people fall for my ate is I don't need to fake my ate ate comes to me normally because I am such an emotional person.
I don't think you should be scumreading me for voting people you tr you should look at my actions on why I'm voting said people that's how it works you lynched me in hotel mafia when I was right just because I didn't want to listen to you so why can't you listen to me here?

[Sondam]

I don't bias read in the first place I take offense to that statement.
Can you quote the case please
~Maria

Everyone bias reads, just some stronger than others. Humanity is consistently inconsistent.

I'd like to say I'm good at looking at 2 sides of a coin
~Maria

[Sondam]

"Maria can you do this for me"
"Sure just give a few I don't want to right now"
"OMG SCUM LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE"
????????????????????????????????????
~Maria
Pedit: He doesn't feel town like he did in hotel mafia and his vote on notice me slot is very bad hell I think the whole notice me wagon is bad needs more sorting but he's scummy
~Maria

[Sondam]

I should just let gerry do all the one on one shit he doesn't get as emotional as me since that's a scumtell I guess
~Maria

[Sondam]

I don't bias read in the first place I take offense to that statement.
Can you quote the case please
~Maria

Everyone bias reads, just some stronger than others. Humanity is consistently inconsistent.

I'd like to say I'm good at looking at 2 sides of a coin
~Maria

Me too. Hell Math does too. I actually majored in social psychology and sociology in college. There is no purely unbiased individual. People are reached in different ways.

I overtly favor data over emotion. I am better with it. I am predisposed to like those players because I can predict and work with them. I am an aspie so conveying the right emotion is difficult.

Compare me to Pirate Mollie [used bc really skilled and not in game]. They don't act like I do. Fewer posts. Group rythym stuff (I try to use but I will never be as good). She taught me the value of giving space even when I think an argument is bunk (still working on it).

There's certain things that resonate more with certain players. These are all biases. Getting town to draw all of its skills is how town wins to me. That means town blocks. Scum need to get the biases in town without making a toxic environment (if possible).

Keeping me and Math calm limits our biases. What are yours?

You mean things I'm more likely to townread then others? I think if someone can come across geniune it'll make me tr them I'm also bias on wanting my friends to be town and when they yell at me it makes me shy away into a little ball and even when I'm town I'm more likely to scumread them because I think they should understand me. If someone overall interacts with me more it makes me bias there's a lot more but I can't say everything
~Maria

[Sondam]

I'm Sonia

[Sondam]

See this is what I mean I don't feel like what elb just did was try and dig more he just jumped to "Lol bs"
~Maria

[Sondam]

hard to say Maria is alt but Maria has ended up being played on more because I'm more well known.
Take your pick
~Maria

[Sondam]

See this is what I mean I don't feel like what elb just did was try and dig more he just jumped to "Lol bs"
~Maria

Did you not just call me out on not being enough of a dick

And now your problem is that I was being a dick?

There's a dif between being a dick and jumping to conclusions

[Sondam]

See this is what I mean I don't feel like what elb just did was try and dig more he just jumped to "Lol bs"
~Maria

Did you not just call me out on not being enough of a dick

And now your problem is that I was being a dick?

There's a dif between being a dick and jumping to conclusions

Okay so which is it

Are you pretending to have the utmost knowledge of my personality after having played one game with me and are scumreading because I haven't shit down everyone's throats

Or you're scumreading me because I "jumped to the conclusion" about you "being full of shit", a reasonable conclusion when I was sure I had no idea who you are

Because both of those are bullshit, and that is the conclusion I am jumping to

No. Your posts are lack LUSTER did you not see that part? I added in the meta as a bonus it's not the main part of my read as meta should never be the main reason for a read
~Maria

[Sondam]

I know you do plan and data that's your thing when I said "oh that's not a case haha" It was more me saying it was weak it wasn't trying to discredit that you made it it just was weak to me does that mean I'm shading you? That's not what my goal was I also don't mind people disagreeing with things I do that's how you get talk going I also sometimes don't mind people scumreading me aslong as there logic to me makes sense and I can be like "Oh I see what you mean with this" but the way you seem to be scumreading me is baffling to me because what you point out as "shade" in my eyes is me just playing the game
Are you asking me to look for people that are buddying or me buddying people?
~Maria

[Sondam]

Micky why do you tr A &N again?

[Sondam]

I also have an extremely hard time seeing how it's not Vecna/LUV/Frogger/Spiffeh/Yuri.

Literally never post again

I'm being polite- you should be too.

oh grow a pair and say something mean pere come on you can do it free shot

[Sondam]

I also have an extremely hard time seeing how it's not Vecna/LUV/Frogger/Spiffeh/Yuri.

Literally never post again

I'm being polite- you should be too.

oh grow a pair and say something mean pere come on you can do it free shot

This is the type of post I struggle with and irks me out on both you AND PV.

Math has unconventional reads and thinking but what does beating on them accomplish? This looks like you and PerV doing good cop bad cop.

To your wall post.

I didn't know I was addressing anything in that post what do you think I am? He just said he was being polite so I told him to be mean a bit I didn't know it was some form of attack?

[Sondam]

I was telling him to take a free shot at me I thought that was clear I thought was being nice because he just had to be to I thought him letting out an angergy comment at me would do some good. But I guess the context was wrong?
The scumreads me and Gerry make aren't random to us we come from a site where it's basically 20 minute games and it's all in real time so we go fast we say "____" is scum because this line is bad and so is this one and it works it's how we play and that's how we did it on forum games aswell so it's hard to adjust to a whole new playstyle it doesn't seem like shading to us mostly just our normal self

Like I have a sr on Leon because the way he's acting from dota maf seems very dif and he doesn't seem to be helping what so ever and I think anyone who agreed with the townlbock from the people I listed need a check after what happened with the thing and wwe smackdown you should know better is that what you're asking?

The only people I see who buddy me slightly are Veca and Micky
~Maria

[Sondam]

I 100% love to buddy people I enjoy playing with and then I find out what they are as the game goes by I much rather talk to people I sr over people I tr though just so I can understand the way they think
~Maria

[Sondam]

One thing I notice with this site is
If something is "unknown" or "not normal" or "hard to understand" more times then not it just auto is found scummy by people and that confuses me
~Maria

[Sondam]

MariaR, can you slow down, stop and do what I asked of you?

Assuming you play on shorter deadline sites, you naturally take the time to sort at night? Here, focusing on putting the puzzle together more needs to happen. Otherwise it reeks of shade.

Also look for buddying comments please.

~Titus

Yes I can do that
No on my site night phase lasts 2 to 3 minutes if you're a cop you have that much time to look and see who want to invest if you're mafia y
ou have that much time to plan choose who you want to kill etc

It's all about looking at lines you feel are real and what are fake it's fast paced and you have to just go I never got the luxury of "sitting down and planning what I want to do from here" it was always GO GO GO GO
~Maria

Yuri isn't scum yuri has no reason to after Vecna of all people at this stage in the game a wagon that's clearly not gonna pick up

[Sondam]

I'll look later on at night along with Gerry but why do you want me to look for comments of people buddying me that seems really specific and strange of a request you must have some angle you're going for.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Maria what about my Vecna vote makes u sure im town. what do you expect scum me to have done in this situation instead

The vote doesn't feel survivalist like it feels like you really sr Vedna and want a wagon on him I feel like if you were scum you would've gone for a wagon that could've got you more traction like Luv Me Deo Notice etc

[Sondam]

ngh....bullies fine I'll just go do my homework that Titus gave me
~Maria

[Sondam]

VOTE: Bee
Holy fuck can this die in a fire yet

[Sondam]

UNVOTE:
I think for the first game ever someone has scared me

[Sondam]

Btw, if Yuri is lynched and flips town, someone must pay.

Who offers to be the next lynch incase Yuri is town?

[Sondam]

Yuri when I played with you was I town or scum or would you pref not to say?
~Maria

[Sondam]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

This line is bullshit btw "I just want to push a lynch for someone else and no reason at all <3" OH PLEASE
~Maria

[Sondam]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

This line is bullshit btw "I just want to push a lynch for someone else and no reason at all <3" OH PLEASE
~Maria

That's town synergy.

~Titus

No it's an excuse for when Yuri flips town
~Maria

[Sondam]

I'm tempted to vote Yuri myself now just to get a flip so I can tunnel frog boy here into the ground
~Maria

[Sondam]

Town synergy is talking about reads together and coming to an answer and trying to figure something out or helping each other on a common problem
I do not want to fucking hear your reasoning on switching your vote was because you wanted to fucking help someone fix there hydra
that is B U L L S H I T
~Maria

[Sondam]

I'm tempted to vote Yuri myself now just to get a flip so I can tunnel frog boy here into the ground
~Maria

Maria this sucks as much as Frog saying it was so Math and Titus will get along

I'm not srlsy gonna vote you jeez
~Maria

[Sondam]

Titus I'm waiting for gerry to get on so we can re read together.
~Maria

[Sondam]

You and Math can fix w/e you're having issues on together because the game is for fun and you need to work as a team in your own way not just mashing your 2 styles together find one that you 2 can bouce off each other
~Maria

[Sondam]

Frog could have said
"I'm voting this cause I still think it's scum"
"I think this has a better wagon chance"
"This feels better to me"
ANY OF THAT I WOULD BE OKAY WITH
"I'm voting this so these 2 will stop fighting"
Fuck. That.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Town synergy is talking about reads together and coming to an answer and trying to figure something out or helping each other on a common problem
I do not want to fucking hear your reasoning on switching your vote was because you wanted to fucking help someone fix there hydra
that is B U L L S H I T
~Maria

I don't really care what you think, because that's not my reason at all.

lmfao okay friend
~Maria

[Sondam]

Titus I'm waiting for gerry to get on so we can re read together.
~Maria

Then I'm going to ask you to be quiet until you sync up and get on the same page together, now that you have acknowledged your weakness and look to who plays to it. Right now, if Yuri is scum, you're wearing a huge BUDDY ME sign.

~Titus

What made you flip your read on me so suddenly? You said ate doesn't work so I don't really know what made you change why can't I just be Yuri's buddy in your eyes? Yes I am a very easy person to buddy but I'd like to think Gerry makes up for that weakness
~Maria

[Sondam]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

[Sondam]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

Yep...and that was ONE OF MULTIPLE REASONS

[Sondam]

Maria, TBF...Frogger is right. Stop pulling a Titus and trying to argue that you are right when you aren't.

nero I have no idea what you're reading I see that post in the thread is it in the thread cause I think it is and it is BS
~Maria

[Sondam]

Okay that wasn't the only reason what's your point that was still one of the worst lines in this whole thread WHAT TOWN POSTS THAT?
~Maria

[Sondam]

On vacation. I'll catch up later tonight. Hopefully Maria has been able to post at least

~Gerry

[Sondam]

Anyone who sr's Notice after what there posting needs a huge reality check cause that slot is obv af town also I don't think people really care for that townblock if people are trying to shade a townblock out of frears that's lol
~Maria

[Sondam]

Maria what about my Vecna vote makes u sure im town. what do you expect scum me to have done in this situation instead

The vote doesn't feel survivalist like it feels like you really sr Vedna and want a wagon on him I feel like if you were scum you would've gone for a wagon that could've got you more traction like Luv Me Deo Notice etc

Or maybe he votes me in the hopes I go after Notice next (in case of yuri scum, notice town)

There can be many explanations really.

How tf do you get that idea. Seems like a bit of a reach
~Maria

[Sondam]

Anyone who sr's Notice after what there posting needs a huge reality check cause that slot is obv af town also I don't think people really care for that townblock if people are trying to shade a townblock out of frears that's lol
~Maria

Who is your block? Did you do what I asked?

I need a block? Also I told you I'm doing it with Gerry and repentantly he's coming on tonight so you shouldn't have to wait long.

[Sondam]

Would you rather be your own best friend or your own worst enemy?
~Maria

[Sondam]

No I'm saying I doubt people who aren't in the townblock that was made really care because in the end it really means nothing. If people shade a townblock cause there scared that's sad. I will however attack a few people who make them because they should know how awful townblocks are
~Maria

[Sondam]

Scum Vecna has been creepying into my mind after that little scuff with Notice but I need to bounce a few thoughts off Gerry that I don't feel comfortable sharing with everyone yet mostly cause they're silly theories and ideas.

[Sondam]

I really wanted to play with ABR aswell I heard so much about him
~Maria

[Sondam]

I really wanted to play with ABR aswell I heard so much about him
~Maria

Trust me. This is a good thing. If he cannot be bothered to give reads with me present, it's clear he wants to pick on people, not play mafia.

It's good the conflict is over I agree hopefully we can focus on more pressing matters?
~Maria

[Sondam]

That would be a pressing matter. Or maybe SSBM or Drixx any of the low posters really
~Maria

[Sondam]

Walking away from the comp/phone is also a lovely idea
~Maria.
Pedit: He's town though lol

[Sondam]

ISN'T THERE A BLOCK BUTTON OR SOMETHING
Have fun guys it's a game for fun yeah? Were all adults here

sees Creature

well mostly
Luv is getting scummier and scummier
~Maria

[Sondam]

I hate the "oh we'll just lynch him the next day no biggie!" Line up lynches more ty
~Maria

[Sondam]

I hate the "oh we'll just lynch him the next day no biggie!" Line up lynches more ty
~Maria

Town's supposed to focus on getting all scum, not just one.

I agree so why is he lynching 2 town
~Maria

[Sondam]

I will never ever vote an anti town player over someone I think is scum and neither should anyone else
~Maria
Pedit: Because I'm a 5 shot day cop.

[Sondam]

I hate the "oh we'll just lynch him the next day no biggie!" Line up lynches more ty
~Maria

Town's supposed to focus on getting all scum, not just one.

I agree so why is he lynching 2 town
~Maria

How do you know they're town?

Hey Luv what happens when you ask stupid questions?
~Maria

[Sondam]

No such thing as stupid questions, just stupid people. You're looking like you're apart of that group right now.

LMFAOOO YOU JUST ASKED HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE TOWN AND THAT'S THE MOST STUPID FUCKING QUESTION EVER
I can legit ask you the same thing I can ask you how you know there scum holy shit are a moron or playing dumb
~Maria

[Sondam]

I didn't know we were going back to mafia 101 don't worry I'll get you some mentors cause you need them
~Maria

[Sondam]

Mariar, is Fro99er town-aligned?

I would snap at you but then I just see your avi and think DAWWWW ICE BEAR <3
Change it please so I can yell at you.

[Sondam]

I am obviously asking you to explain why you're town reading them

You didn't say that at all

[Sondam]

Mariar, is Fro99er town-aligned?

I would snap at you but then I just see your avi and think DAWWWW ICE BEAR <3
Change it please so I can yell at you.

Answer the question

No.

[Sondam]

I don't cooperate with people who piss me off. Ask nicely and I'll happily answer.
~Maria

[Sondam]

Yell at me now.

Hey sexy how you doin.

[Sondam]

It's fine, I can work around you too and then lynch you if I'm not satisfied with Gerry.

LMFAO THIS IS FUCKING SCUM
~Maria

[Sondam]

Yell at me now.

Hey sexy how you doin.

Fine, and you?

Good drinking some mango juice playing mafia listening to a litte bit of music you know normal day

[Sondam]

I don't cooperate with people who piss me off. Ask nicely and I'll happily answer.
~Maria

Please answer me snookums?

Do you know ABR is town? If so why?

For one people I sr are trying to policy lynch him the next day when he has barely any posts it screams opportunistic also he feels really genuine with his posting of "Fuck you I'ma do what I want"
~Maria

[Sondam]

Why Fro00er out of everyone? Is he hard to read for you or?
~Maria

[Sondam]

I hope you croak
Pedit: He's null scum as in I'd lynch Luv and Leon but I'd lynch him after along with bee

[Sondam]

You won't vote me again Maria.

I liked you better when you didn't have a pair
~Maria

[Sondam]

I picked the protective ability, is there someone I should use it on tonight in particular?

SHUT UP SHUT UPPPPP
~Maria

[Sondam]

I want this yuri thing to happen so Math and Titus can at least vote in their one similar read.

This line is bullshit btw "I just want to push a lynch for someone else and no reason at all <3" OH PLEASE
~Maria

That's town synergy.

~Titus

No it's an excuse for when Yuri flips town
~Maria

Didnt you mean to say "if" maria?

No.

[Sondam]

VOTE: luv

[Sondam]

Can we lynch real scum Luv or are we gonna keep up this circle jerk we have going on and just lynch town Yuri the fact the bee wagon is hard semi worries me aswell makes me think a lot of scum aren't getting votes
~maria

[Sondam]

Can we lynch real scum Luv or are we gonna keep up this circle jerk we have going on and just lynch town Yuri the fact the bee wagon is hard semi worries me aswell makes me think a lot of scum aren't getting votes
~maria

LUV is not an option today.

There literally isn't enough support in the game for it to happen right now.

What the fuck are you talking about? We have 9 days what do you mean not enough support we can legit wagon anyone in the game
~Maria

[Sondam]

We can wagon you until you shut up.

HAHAHAHAHA you think threasts are gonna work on me THAT'S A GOOD ONE