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Majiffy is tow for his claim + earlier post here:
In post 21, Majiffy wrote:I am potentially a negative-utility town role. I would rather not expound any further on it at the moment because I'm not entirely certain as to the nuances outside of my control.
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Why the hell did't you just say tow here istead of ati-scum?-
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In post 3605, shos wrote:Yes.
It actually makes sense that one of the puppets is scum. I think the self vanillaizer should not do it. Try to make use of the ability ehen you can - since the existence of other puppets makes you vanillaizing yourself useless. It just removes town power.
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In post 226, Always wrote:Prob-town.
This I'm having trouble reading, honestly. I
thinkit leans town overall, but multiball makes that call more sketchy.
Mhork/xofelf/iece, sure. (Not going to go howling for their blood 'til I'm sure, though.) Jiffy, give it time. (He's a bitch to catch in multiball.) But Clyton, no.In post 101, Nero Cain wrote:Mhork/Jiffy/Clyton/xofelf maybe iece
Also, while I realize this is day one and there's too many variables to account for, it could help to have an idea for factional divisions if you can give them and what you think the numbers would be. (4/4, 5/4, and 5/5 being the likely candidates given game size.)
Legit scumread here, now.In post 100, Lord Mhork wrote:Wait but we don't know for sure there are multiple factions do we?
VOTE: ActionDan
This is a derp-vote. (Dan is practically conftown.)
Mhork is not a derp-player.
Also, MDT's town.
And Abomination is hilariously town.
So I know I said prob-town before.In post 117, Young and Beautiful wrote:We should policy lynch this
VOTE: Abomination
Everyone who has a vote on the monster above gets a smooch! :*
But given multiball and this post, I'm saying possible-scum.
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I was really ready to commit to a Mastin scum read for her cheeky as fuck comment about being "anti-scum" instead of town. Combine that with an AP night kill and I am very suspicious. Will see how my read develops over time with her hydra.
In post 286, Lord Mhork wrote:This is the overdefensive post I was referring to. It feels off to me with the level of explanation. But then, I don't know mafia xof. We will see what else she brings when she is feeling better.
Agreed.
Early game, Mhork looks very good. I will say good as well mal for my reads to avoid those accursed letters. ._.
In post 358, Egg wrote:Vote shos because it's more productive than voting xofelf or Nero or Always
That explanation was entirely overblown. Why did you say this, Egg?
In post 367, Kagami wrote:In post 366, shos wrote:alright welel I'll get this later
ok, so I have a new theory about shos, but it still means we should run him up.
I wanted to play with you, Kagami. You seem analytical. I like that.
In post 368, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:In post 367, Kagami wrote:In post 366, shos wrote:alright welel I'll get this later
ok, so I have a new theory about shos, but it still means we should run him up.
me
It is a shame you may be scum for virtue of your role.
In post 380, Iecerint wrote:Dan is town unless Katsuki is scum.
Dan probably very likely town after this. The gays have a way to read each other not known to others.
In post 391, T S O wrote:Rhaego what the fuck are you doing?
In post 392, Iecerint wrote:Scumhunting.
This was hilarious to me.
In post 438, Nero Cain wrote:AHHHHH! I see you rolled scum afterall. I've talked about 80% of these reads so telling the town that my list is arbitrary looks like nothing more than discrediting.
I think NC is probably town for this post. He does similar things with me all the time. It is infuriating actually.
In post 511, Egg wrote:Not discrediting. Just maybe second guessing a little.
I cannot determine if this is smooth scum talking or Egg is just bashful town.
In post 571, geists wrote:And yet you've advanced a reason for copping Mastin that should apply to any game at any time. You make the request only after a fairly significant replace-in and because of the reaction to the replacement. I say again, explain plz.
Geists is most likely good. Read supported through 583
In post 584, Young and Beautiful wrote:I'm not fishing for a PR claim, nor am I trying to get them to respond to me. Whatever any hypothetical PR wishes to do with their night action is entirely their responsibility.
At the very most, I can give them incentive... with a smooch :*
I don't want to get involved in mafia discussion. Mastin, however, may gladly accommodate you. She can discuss mafia theory with you as a player; regardless if she is town or scum
I'm only interested in finding scum.
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I've played with this head before...
I can't make out who you are.
Don't think Rhaego would do this to a buddy. More points for Lord Mhork being town.
Shos has my permission to die.
In post 617, Always wrote:royally ticked off
Why?
In post 632, Young and Beautiful wrote:That was my other head, but I actually agree with them on some accounts. It's ridiculous to say that we're scum because they suggested to a hypothetical Cop who to target at night. I don't get why people are screaming about it at all!
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In post 654, Abomination wrote:I blasted you because you arbitary picked 10 players and said "we should lynch them". It's fake as hell. You put a player on it who hadn't posted and then when that was pointed out went "Oh shit, I better come up with a reason". Your reads are FAKE. Everyone, Nero has FAKE reads. When he tries to point out I'm scum for blasting him for scumreading Shos, before his fake readslist in #423, he makes exactly one comment about Shos. Specifically he says "Which scumteam are you on Shos?". And never talks about him again. There is NO PROGRESSION to his reads. His ISO doesn't contain ONE SINGLE REASON why he thinks Shos is scum. If you search for "Shos" in his ISO, it comes up 14 times. Most of those times are within a quote and his fake reads list. Not one instance of "Shos is scum because of X". He's fake. Do it for Kasuki. Same thing. No mention of why Kasuki is in his reads list. Nor Sakura (who is a PL lol). Nor Majiffy. It's funny, the only playerslot Nero has given reasons for anyone, is mine, because I called him out on his bullshit. Nero is fake. Nero is scum.
Nero votes please. He's caught scum, and he's flailing.
Sad as it is, this slot is most likely good.
hmm. Dislike Squirrel girl. I have thoughts that she is mal.
In post 790, Svenskt Stål wrote:In post 782, AngryIcerink wrote:ActionDan claimed his role PM implied the game was multiscum. Mhork subsequently argued that this made ActionDan scum. Then Bulba said at least one of them was scum.
-Iec
Thanks.
You guys seem pretty town, also thanks for signing your posts.
I dislike this.
In post 802, Svenskt Stål wrote:In post 545, beastcharizard wrote:I just ignored you since yor posts are nothing but votes asking if the person is scum.
VOTE: rhaego
Are you scum?
In post 801, beastcharizard wrote:Can we get some more votes on rhaego please?They are super scummy.
This is your two latest posts, what happened between them?
Redeemed slightly.
837 Good.
In post 856, Squirrel Girl wrote:Unvote: Nero Cain
Vote: Shos
Still good with Rhaego vote.
Mild town on Majiffy.
I think I just want to force an L-1 at this stage, the game feels very slow. Let's throw a lynch party to liven things up!
This post is worth the sacrilegious letters.
It gives me the heebie jeebies.
In post 897, Nero Cain wrote:In post 896, T S O wrote:bad vote
how so? Who should we be voting for today and why?
NC good read withers.
In post 949, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:In any case, shos play really reminds me of myself in xenosaga. I don't understand what inuyasha could possibly have to do with the undead, other than kikyo, though. Kikyo SK?
HUH
With your role?
In post 1077, beastcharizard wrote:I have like no flavor info in my role PM. I have my role name and what my role does. I am specified as human though.
I think I have been anti-town thus far by not claiming. I have been debating claiming or not for a while and I decided I probably should claim.
I am town human unpoisonable townie. I can do flavor too if you would like but that doesn't actually matter. This means that there is a way to poison in this game. This might be the way to kill in this game which would be the weird mechanic.
This is all the info I know.
The reason I think me not claiming is anti-town is because I was with holding information that the town could potentially find useful. How it could be useful I don't know right now but it probably will be later.
This post perplexes me. I had mal read for Charizard. He is possibly good because of this post.
In post 1102, Lord Mhork wrote:All wagons are stalled because half the 28 player base is lurkaderping.
Easy lynch is antitown. People can just drop votes on easy wagons like xof and coast on it. Who on the wagon is pushing xof other than you?
I'm defending xof because she's not here and I like her. Plus piling impatient pressure isn't going to do anything really productive with her.
Also btw is hilarious that abomination was gonna be a policy lynch because dissonance and clogging the thread. They have really done neither of these things. I think they might be the least dissonant hydra here. If there's still a wagon on them, why?
Confident that Lord Mhork is good.
In post 1112, AngryIcerink wrote:In post 938, shos wrote:And re: other scumteam: someone said that one scumteam is Naraku & assistants or something. So the othrt is undead.
I think this post is incriminating for Shos. How would he know that they would be specifically called undead?
In post 1133, Lord Mhork wrote:Or, and here's an idea, what if scum could be composed of demons and undead and regular Joe Schmoes? That's called good game design. It helps games from being broken by dumbass flavor gaming. If we have flavor cops to detect for undead or demonness, you can bet your ass any halfway decent designer with any semblance if a brain will make some demon/undead town and some not.
Truth.
Kikyo is mentioned a lot in my role PM.
1153 Perhaps Always is good. Hmm. Must speculate more.
In post 1158, Always wrote:Scumbag I may be playstyle-wise, alignment-wise I am most certainly town. You're scumreading the person, not the player.
You should try changing that if so many people have issues with it. :\
In post 1203, Squirrel Girl wrote:I would rather you forget that I'm a double voter and address the issue if you think it's actually scummy. Maybe I am just a really powerful scum role lol-ing it up in your face.
This felt good.
I had thoughts SG was mal for her Rhaego vote.
Majiffy was good for his early claim. He has done nothing at all since, though.
In post 1240, Always wrote:but Clyton/neil? 100% town. Don't pursue further, pleaseandthankyou.
Are you happy softing masons?
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Back from the dead.
Reading now.
In post 1302, T S O wrote:That's a derisive tone I use to people who can barely play. Not coaching.
Thought this was funny.
In post 1313, Always wrote:For AIR it's not so much a townread as a lack of a scumread, which means that if AP's scum, he's specifically aiming for fool-Mastin scumplay, which is difficult to maintain and is detrimental to his faction the longer he's forced to keep it up. (It takes a lot of effort--less given multiball, but still enough to be stressful.)
It took so much mental strength to connect AIR = AngryIecrink even with this mention of AP.
Like, that is not how you do acronyms or shorten a name people.
In post 1317, Always wrote:
'Course I'm not.In post 1312, Lord Mhork wrote:You know you're not the best player, right?
I'm one of the best scum players in the game.
I'm actually only a mediocre-at-besttown player.
Thus, why I hold zero arrogance when it comes to reads I have no reason to hold arrogance for.
I have reason to hold arrogance on Clyton, Venmar, shos, and myself.
Dead serious. Compare the tone in my posts between my greater reads (the above) and lesser reads (all others)--difference between night and day. The above are smug, the others are more casual, relaxed, and open.
If Always is scum, I think they are the Naraku-Puppeteer. Other than that, I think they are probably town for posts like this.
Mastin has a different tone, I think, as scum. It doesn't feel like this tone. But these posts all came from early in the game when Mastin cared. Mala has really taken a back seat in this hydra though.
In post 1326, T S O wrote:She's trying to fake arrogance. Just read it. I have never, ever seen her act like that. She knows that arrogance is seen as a towntell to the majority of the players here, so she keeps. on. dropping. it.
Meh, this is a fair point. Mastin's arrogance is similar to Tammy's arrogance. Only Tammy's arrogance comes from how town she feels she is acting.
In post 1328, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh! One last thing~
T S O, I hope you find it within yourself to realize that at times you can be much, much worse than the people you call out for arrogance or bad play, simply due to the fact that regardless of alignment, your personal attacks often carry more than enough toxicity to completely ruin multiple individuals' motivations to participate at all.
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Is this Tierce?
In post 1349, Young and Beautiful wrote:In post 1342, T S O wrote:I don't care who you are; why the hell are you obsessed with AAA?
You seemedmeanin that game.
Perhaps I was simply...aroused.
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Scratch the above question.
SK?
In post 1380, The Goat wrote:Nero is playing differently than the games I remember with him. Will have to go back and check how long ago that was, and what his alignment was.
Icerint/AP is pinging the ever-loving holy crap out of my Goatdar.
Did anything ever come of that dive into your history with Nero?
It is funny how AI was scumread early in the game by a fair amount of people and ended up being a N1 kill. *high five to Iec and AP*
I don't think I have ever been nightkilled the first night.
In post 1396, Birds of Prey wrote:In post 1384, AngryIcerink wrote:Actually I think y&b look townish after recent posts.
Gym post.
-Bird, obv
Clarify please.
Also, can you sign with AP, Pidgeon or something? I'm getting confused as to what is directed at us versus you.
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Why does them signing as bird make it hard for what is directed at you guys?
In post 1398, Always wrote:I just HAD to be anti-scum.
*twitch*
Naraku fear grows.
In post 1400, neil1113 wrote:So this reads, that your making a point based off of what somebody else did in some other game completely irrelevant to anyones playing style here, as to why somebody else who is completely different, in a completely different game, is guilty? I feel like stretching would almost be an under-qualified word to describe that action...
People do this a lot actually.
It helps them wrap their mind around things. I don't know why it should be so expressly discouraged. It wasn't like Nero was taking that and spearheading SG's lynch.
In post 1407, Always wrote:I didn't draw scum. Instead, I got stuck as anti-scum
what.
the.
heck.
fferylt I request assistance of meta diving Mastin for this specific statement.I actually just want you to do all the work, but...
In post 1424, The Goat wrote:Other top suspect is Beast...and Sven is less active than I remember him, although I can appreciate his need for data.
The game was 57 pages when he most recently posted. Waiting for "data" let him get bogged down by apathy.
In post 1432, AngryIcerink wrote:Line of inquiry: vetoed. Nobody is permitted to talk about daytalk anymore.
I'm upset AP did this. I hope it doesn't have any real ramifications on quashing discussion. I thought it was a fair point. I don't know why AP did this though when they flipped VT.
In post 1521, T S O wrote:In post 1516, AngryIcerink wrote:TOS is scummy.
As of a few days ago AP had a theory that TOS was scum with a particular player. I can't remember who he thought it was, though. But that made me read TOS's posts more critically than I would otherwise.
see, this is why I get mad.
Firstly, I cannot even take you seriously when YOU CANNOT SPELL MY NAME CORRECTLY. IT'S TSO, FOR FUCK'S SAKE. NOT TOS.
But then, after misspelling my name, you talk about AP's theory of me being scum with someone... someone... and then you don't even say who it is!
And then you finish it off by saying you've been reading my posts critically, and well, um, that's it. You never give your opinion on them, or point out flaws... nothing at all.
This was the first of TSO's "rage" posts that I think looked fake.
That exclamation point. Gotta sell it somehow.
In post 1562, T S O wrote:I'm clearly locked out of something here because all I'm hearing are blankets of "mastin's conftown" from EVERYONE. Did I miss something?
And then she made a readslist and refused to answer questions on certain reads like Venmar because ???
In post 1563, T S O wrote:SURELY SOMEONE SEES THAT IT FEELS LIKE I'M THE ONLY SANE PERSON IN THIS THREAD SOMETIMES
I don't like this.
Are you going to fill the mandatory lurker scum slot for this game, AD?
In post 1588, fferyllt wrote:Town
Squirrel Girl
AngryIcerink
Majiffy
Always
Abomination - but they are kinda skating on what burning earth put into the thread imo.
Venmar
HighShroomish
Kinda Town
Lord Mhork
shos
T S O
Birds of Prey
ActionDan - was higher, read is going stale.
Moogle Dance Troupe
Svenskt Stål - probably should move him up but I'm annoyed.
Nero Cain
neil1113 - because I'm tired of mastin's condescension
Egg - probably belongs in the next higher group but I don't want to think about it right now.
Kinda confused at some of the people in these respective lists. I think they should be switched, but to each their own I guess.
In post 1623, HighShroomish wrote:Whoa whoa whoa hold the fucking phone.
Hey. TSO. Over here.
Shut the fuck up over Mastin right now. Just shut up. Please. Be productive. You're being more annoying than Majiffy with the death tunnel.
Nati, I don't believe we've met. I'm HS. Genius millionaire playboy philanthropist. I've used my knowledge of English semantics and over all common sense to come to the conclusion that Y&B is either trying to soft claim Lover with someone or is just being stupid scum. The second is more likely because I flipped a coin and knew which one I really thought it was while it was in the air.
Vote Y&B so I don't have to make a post-by-post ISO case on her please. I hate having to do those on phones.
The whole thing with shos+xof voting Y&B to even it out means one of three things- scum just decided to sheep the weakest player to take pressure off, scum just wanted to take pressure off and move it, or they are town who think that scum is scum. Option three seems most optimal.
P-Edit: guys, it would be nice if you would let me post...
P-Edit: come on guys...
P-Edit: This isn't funny.
Kinda don't like this post actually. Too... try hardy? Wants to emulate the arrogance others have but doesn't really achieve the same effect?
In post 1643, neil1113 wrote:Did someone ask me to vote?
VOTE: Nero Cain
Better?
P.S. Does anyone actually believe Nero to be town? Or am I good without having to lay out the obvious?
Uh? Yes. Explain. Beyond the SG thing.
In post 1645, Always wrote:I'm stuck as anti-scum.
:fryeyes:
In post 1654, BBmolla wrote:Like it should be obvious why I just want the day to end, don't be stupid.
I guess you can be town.
In post 1807, xofelf wrote:I'm also sorry I decided not to throw a bitchfit about being voted?
Felt this was kinda town.
I agree with Kagami of Moggle Dance Troupe that Xo's reactions have been weird this game (the overdefensiveness about the tag, gender thing, etc) but this comment particularly struck me as town.
In post 1884, Squirrel Girl wrote:At least it's better than when everyone thought I was Sakura.
Who are you?
In post 1899, BBmolla wrote:Shos probably town for claim, NC probably scum.
Why?
In post 1927, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:I was kind of hoping to bounce things off kaze, but he appears to be out for the rest of the game for personal reasons, so all moogle posts are kagami henceforth.
Why continue to play as a hydra then?
In post 1936, Young and Beautiful wrote:By revealing my role out into the open, as you guys have forced my slot to already, it means that I am very prone to scum-night-shenanigans now. Great.
I liked Mastin's point. This response does not look genuine.
In post 1986, Abomination wrote:It feels like the xof wagon has been at the same point for forever, can the people on it tell me why they're on it and what they've done to push that wagon? (Egg, ActionDan, AngryIcerink, Moogle Dance Troupe, BBmolla, Young and Beautiful)
VOTE: Nero Cain
I might go to BoP since I didn't like his reaction to the YaB claim, but I'd rather not lead a whole new wagon.
- Axxle
Why NC at this stage?
In post 2023, AngryIcerink wrote:NS is being intentionally oblivious; would lynch. Efforts to appear town are also half-hearted and tragic, would put him out of his misery.
Laughed so hard at this.
What does everyone think about Lem moving her vote to NC when she was most likely going to get lynched? I think it looks desperate and likely means NC is not scum with Lem.
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In post 4093, Birds of Prey wrote:Oversoul, out of all the things we've said, you pick that to comment on?
The whole point of requesting AP to sign his post with something other than "Birds" is because I couldn't tell if a question Ex: What do you think Birds? is directed at us or AP.
Yeah. I didn't think that was a normal reaction since people were already calling AP by his MS name or AIR for his hydra name. It felt like filler.
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Just wondering Nero.
It seems annoying to have the flips delayed a day. Maybe Ceph is playing around with the mechanic to see how it would change scum's interactions with people who don't immediately have the flip knowledge.
Why would a reviver violate the rules of Mafia? Non-spoiled dead QTs exist, and he could give the dead players an order not to interact with anyone about the game.
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In post 2159, The Goat wrote:I'm also getting strong town reads on SG, Nero and Mastin; their interactions read like "I'm smarter than you" town on town action.
What do you mean by this?
In post 2171, Lemniscate wrote:In post 2161, Nero Cain wrote:Well now we know why bop sux. But really, I've beenscum reading elf and shos all day and now I'm currently voting probscum lemiso
Exactly whats wrong with me not caring which one of those three gets hung? Also whats so town about lemi thatmy vote on himis bad?
Giests, ignore goat this is a large reason why I scum read him in that nexus game. He's a red herring!
So you've been scum reading two of the main wagons all day, and as soon as I become a possible main wagon, you jump on board? Also, what exactly transpired in that time when both of your scum reads were the two main wagons with the most votes (before your vote tied me with another one); that you thought I would be a better wagon then them and placed a vote on me (who at the time, was not currently one of the top two wagons being discussed)? Just interested in hearing you quickly stumble over yourself to make a case on me.
I'm a woman. I've said this twice now. For someone who is so certain I'm "probscum"... you're not paying much attention to my actual posts.
Hm. This post ripples the water on my Nero townread. Was that the point of this type of post?
In post 2174, Abomination wrote:In post 2128, The Goat wrote:I totally missed the Beast claim when it happened...how many votes were there at the time? It looked odd.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a claim to save himself, it was a claim to give us more information in case something really weird happened later wrt the poison kill. The claim felt town to me.
-Axxle
I agree. I think the claim is town. His earlier play left me suspicious given how Rhaego flipped.
2179Can I get some opinions on this post, please.
Specifically from AD, HS, Geits, Mhork, MDT, Axxle (Abomination), and BBmolla?
Others can give their opinion on that if they would like!
In post 2193, neil1113 wrote:So between Xof, Lem, and Shos?
UNVOTE: Nero
VOTE: Shos
The idea of Shos being scum is much more appealing to me, then Lem flipping scum (though she'd be my second vote... sorry babe!) or Xof (which I don't see the case against, at all.)
Blinded by love.
Although looking at the wagons now, it would be poetic if we sent Neil to the grave the day after his amour.
In post 2198, Young and Beautiful wrote:We must lynch Birds Of Prey.
I'm 100% confident they are a member of an anti town faction, aka scum.
This is not hyperbole.
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I would like this explained please.
In post 2204, Young and Beautiful wrote:But really. Xofelf claimed JOAT.
Is that a town claim?
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In post 2208, BBmolla wrote:Think xof is scum, especially with my role.
Explain please. It is 28 players.
Quickly, what is the difference between your play here and in Harry Potter Prisoner of Azkaban?
In post 2264, notscience wrote:Right now I'm back and forth in my head about the right move
it's games like this I wish I had a neighborhood
hint
hint
That's my turf.
In post 2268, Young and Beautiful wrote:Exactly what I was thinking. Self watcher with role absorber; vigilante is likely a lie.
I can't tell if xof or shos has a dodgier claim.
Seeing as roles seem to be at least more than strenuously tied with source flavor, who would fill this "self watching role absorber" in the flavor. I only say this because my role seems fairly attached to flavor for its own justification.
In post 2277, geists wrote:In post 2230, notscience wrote:Because ffery won't talk to me until I commit a read on their slot
Sven's welcome to talk but I don't thikn he's been following anything.
I want to talk to mala but she has to actually read the game before I can do that.
That's bullshit. I've been talking to you.
You seem more angry this game than I remember from your other games.
Why?
At this point I don't really see the towniness behind Squirrel Girl's posts. Maybe it is something that is an acquired taste. Like olives.
In post 2361, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Maybe I'm biased by my own PM, but everything about my role is quite appropriate to the flavor.
Eh, mine has a questionable logical jump. :\
In post 2373, AngryIcerink wrote:In post 2372, AngryIcerink wrote:My god, if I acknowledge your case will you stop being a whiny little bitch about it?
I regret being this pointed, please forgive my being caustic.
Yeah, that was a little unlike you. Same thing with fferylt and her saying bullshit a lot. I actually looked forward a lot to playing with AP and Iec as well as the Geists hydra.
I wanted to join this game from the beginning but I don't feel like I do particularly well in games where I play from the beginning. I think I am going to solely replace into later stage games now.
Rambling aside, the brief outbursts are questionable. Hmm.
In post 2384, AngryIcerink wrote:In post 2383, Nero Cain wrote:Ap is so scumy, wish we could have lynched that todAY
You still suck at reading me and have never actually read me as anything other than scum. Im not going to count WWE because I was barely in that whatsoever.
Welcome to my hell featuring Nero Cain.
In post 2430, notscience wrote:I like Lemni's iso tbh
I didn't care for her predecessor
But this sounds like newbtown frustration/uncertainty
And I think the reaction to natifery sums it up pretty well
Some pretty hardcore defense of Lemi from NS. Not sure if I like it for town or not.
In post 2464, notscience wrote:Okay 1 other interaction. HS is from PO I believe.
and yes ffery, that post
And to answer your question, origin changes my read.
Compare her to 3dicerolling.
Big difference.
We should get the qualified and competent people from Smogon over here.
In post 2471, Majiffy wrote:So is Marquis.
Eh...
In post 2488, Lord Mhork wrote:Shut up Venmar. It's a legit thing that happens
Iece, I've been privately thinking it because I would rather not be bitched out for it. However it's a legit concern. Also I'm gonna point out how defensive your response is. How outraged and indignant
Sounds like the thoughts I have that Neil may have recruited his girlfriend into the game knowing the slot she would take would be scum so they could talk about it openly and share a common experience.
Was that outloud?
In post 2504, AngryIcerink wrote:Mastin has 0 gravitas at mafia. No one even reads her posts until they have to. I am less than 0% threatened by mastin of all people scumreading me.
I think this so much that I was annoyed when AP entered the game and attempted to engage with her.
-Iec
lol
In post 2512, HighShroomish wrote:In post 2501, Iecerint wrote:I also find BoP/Shroomish kinda scummy, but they are not the sort of wagon I am as comfortable flashing as I suspect they will have some kind of elaborate claim if scum.
Well, I suspect BoP will.
-Iec
I was debating going for a really awesome gambit that would've had an elaborate claim, but then I falsely realized I was a miller...
Town Demon is not miller.
In post 2522, Majiffy wrote:@2517
I dislike your play a lot you sometimes.
In post 2535, Nero Cain wrote:I was also confused why ap and ice were even allowed to hydra after the game started.
???
Why would you think that?
In post 2547, notscience wrote:How upset are you that your role pm has red letters?
hmm...
2604, yeah, I guess Mist can die.
In post 2656, AngryIcerink wrote:I'm just going to cede this slot to AP. I can't scumhunt while having a scumread on my own posts.
Bad experiment.
- Iec
Aw. I thought your own honest commentary about AP's actions was highly town. I think you two should do this again though. Maybe we both can actually interact with one another.
In post 2741, AngryIcerink wrote:In post 2740, Iecerint wrote:AP has characterized my feelings about the current situation accurately.
In terms of course of action, I like what Dan just posted:
In post 2725, ActionDan wrote:I'm keeping my vote on Lemi until another mason (of which there are at least 3) claims.
I think this pretty much also applies to us, except that we aren't actually voting Lemni atm.
Which is relevant to a proper interpretation of Titus's previous post about Lemni's wagon being full of scum => AIR scum.
- Iec
~ AP
also:
In post 2737, Birds of Prey wrote:Your vote isn't doing anything on Goat.
In post 2669, AngryIcerink wrote:In post 2656, AngryIcerink wrote:I'm just going to cede this slot to AP. I can't scumhunt while having a scumread on my own posts.
I have no intention of playing this slot alone, I only joined so I could have an activity to do/discuss with Iec. We are texting each other..I offered to stepdown and we ended up just talking about the game reasonably. So I don't know what this means for this slot, I'll let everyone know as soon as I do.
In post 2710, AngryIcerink wrote:I'm not voting until tonight since I lost contact with Iec
Detachment is a trait of scum Pere. He loses focus of details on aspects of the game he is discussing. I think these last three quotes show Pere's detachment from the game. I feel like the claim [BoP] is town though.
In post 2776, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Kikyo masonry? Seems possible, but nobody batted an eye at the undead stuff, iirc. You'd think someone would have said that undead are town.
Thinking about it now, I actually think Demon and Undead are likely going to be interchangeable among the Bo7 mafia team. It makes sense from a design standpoint.
In post 2843, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:I know that something she's said almost certainly isn't true.
Hmm?
In post 2857, Birds of Prey wrote:The mist wagon is so town on someone who refuses to claim. Lynch him.
We don't lynch the mason. Scum will have to kill a mason soon enough or there will be proof Lemi is lying.
Also who the fuck is Shannon?
- VFT
Why so aggressive here?
Venmar, are you even town this game?
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2984 I felt this post was especially townie of Egg considering the crumb stuff relating to the mason claim.
This is good because I was keeping Egg as pocket lurker scum.
In post 3014, Majiffy wrote:What kind of fucking scum actually claims... scum?
The balls. The gigantic, throbbing fucking balls.
I think I have an answer! The one where undead probably isn't a de facto scum claim. I think there is probably a demon or two, maybe even a human on Leminiscate's team. That would have confused her. It would also make sense design wise. Not entirely sure how much it makes sense flavor wise though. Bo7 all at one time were alive, though, right? Is it possible that one can be a demon?
In post 3021, Nero Cain wrote:so anyways...the reason why I suggested doing a limited mass claim is 'cause well my role pm says "you count as a human". I think its sort of silly to tell me that I'm a human and then tell me that I count as a human, its kinda like duh. So it makes me think there's some purpose its there, like this game has maybe specific race counts or something...idk. Or it could just mean nothing and I'm reading in to much. Discuss.
Reading into it too much.
In post 3069, Always wrote:Oh since Mastin's VLA I'm going to take full adv and vote:
VOTE: Abom
I actually decided to fully read who's in your hydra. I'm not seeing the ones I know some meta on to be following town meta I'd expect out of them.
Mastin will likely change the vote, but I posted a reads list last night and she agreed on most of them besides a few and this one didn't clash.
So grawr. (:
~Mala
I liked this post. Mala taking initiative. Felt town to me.
In post 3089, xofelf wrote:I transformed into a balloon and disappeared for the night. The way I understood it, I was untargettable.
Are your abilities not plainly explained?
In post 3139, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:I don't think BB's counterclaim is wildly relevant here, since anything I can imagine BB having that would make him think the claim is false existing twice in a 28 player game.
I do think the claimed commute is bizarre, and that the claimed abilities don't make flavor-sense.
If BB actually thought his role could not exist with Xo's he would be doing a lot more than he did/currently is doing.
In post 3190, BulbaFenix wrote:Check out Event Card Mafia. Apparently he really wants to claim Friendly Neighbor as scum.
-Bulba
Thought the same thing too
Too many Friendly Neighbors going around as of recently
In post 3210, neil1113 wrote:In post 3209, Nero Cain wrote:*yawn* your scum team along with shit players like AP couldn't mislynch me yesterday, it won't happen today.
Lol this is great. I can't wait to see your look when you're lynched and flip scum. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is, why are you so scummy? I figured you'd at least try to pretend you're town...
Wow. Did not like this post. At all. That last sentence feels incredibly forced.
In post 3275, Birds of Prey wrote:Are you claiming a guilty on me? That would make my year.
Don't really see this type of post coming from scum.
In post 3281, BBmolla wrote:I don't even think we're gonna need to scumhunt this game, the setup seems to be winning it for us
Completely forgotten about Xo?
Ok.
I grant BB the kiss of death. Appropriate parties, make it happen.
In post 3317, Birds of Prey wrote:No Y and B did not. That would make this too easy.
Y and B's neighbor message to Always failed. So either scum have a roleblocker and picked them or Y and B is scum. Those are the options. If Y and B HAD picked me, then it would have been a meaningless night action because I can't receive their message. Hence why I had to crumb.
I claimed because a) there's a wagon on me and b) I couldn't explain the cop thing without claiming
Don't really understand the need for you to claim, but I guess I can live with it since it look town now that I think about it.
Why is this slot being townread again?
In post 3324, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:neil is not a bad vote either
I don't know anymore. His confession about the fake guilty looked townish to me.
Why people thought it was real in the first place... well... Lurkers.
In post 3348, Birds of Prey wrote:Everytime I mentioned how pretty I was was also a crumb.
People who work at salons are ascethicans
Something nice to look at is ascetically pleasing
Oh my god.
MDT and Geits commenting on that restores my faith in humanity.
For shame, Titus.
For
Shame.
Aren't you a lawyer?
In post 3356, geists wrote:lol and they don't sound alike.
I knew you were crumbing *something*, but I wouldn't have guessed ascetic.
They don't...?
*quickly googles*
WOW. I have been pronouncing aesthetic wrong my entire life.
In post 3397, xofelf wrote:Uh, the reason I commuted was because I fully expected to be targeted last night.
I think you probably were targeted last night.
The more I read of the game the more it seems that AngryIecrink was probably vig-killed (for shame) unless their reads were on point. It seemed like they had a fair number of people who thought they were scummy and a few people who thought they were town but didn't explicitly say so.
This post really influenced me thinking that Mastin is Naraku. I'm not sure that this is a good assumption anymore. Please explain, Dan.
Mhork has really fallen off the early game he had.
[/quote]In post 3510, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:It's entirely possible that a Bo7 person could have it, though. I can't think of great flavor for that, but maybe.
Isn't Naraku the one who allows the Bo7 to be revived? I could easily see at least one of them being a puppet since, well, they technically were.
Did we ever have confirmation that NS is a puppet and has no other abilities other than being a pawn?
Hmm.. I will begin formulating my reads list.
I probably should have replaced later into the game with more flips and shit to analyze.
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Townie:
Birds of Prey
beastcharizard
xoflelf (claim)
notscience (mostly from TSO read, reads similar to Prisoner of Azkaban TSO)
Nero Cain (typical bull headed Nero. Just I am not on the receiving end of it this time)
Geists (have some niggling suspicions about them but fairly strong townread)
Majiffy (higher up depending on Shos's answer to my question)
Moggle Dance Troupe
Lord Mhork (would be higher but D2 has been fairly bad for him)
Egg (suspected early on but has greatly improved as the game progressed, but his vote is rotting on me. Why?)
Shos
HighShroomish (miller-gate interactions)
I guess they can be town:
Young and Beautiful
Always (I could write a novel on my paranoia of Mastin)
BulbaFenix (less active than I would like but contributes)
Abomination
ActionDan
They could be scum:
Squirrel Girl (don't really see the towniness from this one)
Svenskt Stal (does this person earnestly contribute to the game?)
The Goat
Neil1113 (I did not like his interactions with Leminiscate, still think he possibly recruited her to play the game to be scums together)
Scummy:
BBmolla (has done literally nothing this entire game)
ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
Venmar (has done exceptionally nothing this game except be super brusque with people, I can't remember if this is Venmar town meta though)
Mist7676 (super defensive unnecessarily)
Ok yeah.
Why has no one made Molla put his money where his mouth is?
I would gladly string his buttocks to the rafters if time allowed.
I think given the situation Mist is a good lynch.
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In post 4179, geists wrote:Also, I was way more annoyed in the last game we played than in this one. But, you were scum in that game, so maybe you didn't notice.
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In post 4178, geists wrote:In that particularly post I was calling notsci out because I've been town as fuck and notsci is actually pretty good at reading me when my play isn't ambiguous. He nailed one of the biggest markers of my scum game in a recent game, and called me town for not exhibiting it in that game.
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In post 4186, Birds of Prey wrote:@Oversoul, you're a Yankee (northern US/British person) or scum aren't ya. Otherwise you would understand that aesthetician and ascetic sound really fucking similar.
@PV, you have total control of our vote until deadline.
~Drunk Titus
I mean, not enough to confuse the distinction between the two.
I was pronouncing aesthetic as "a stet ic" and ascetic as "a set ic" but I never once made the connection. I did take that NY Times dialect quiz and got Miami and two Northeastern cities, but that makes sense given the demography of where I grew up.-
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In post 4192, Birds of Prey wrote:Mist claimed and maintained a townread on Lemin throughout the Lemin lynch process. Why would scum not bus for credit (however small it would be at that point)?
Shrommish had Rhaego as a I don't know what the fuck to do with this pile read (845). Shroomish disagrees that if Rhaego is scum Egg is scum (972). Votes Lemin (2355) becoming 11th vote on wagon (doesn't want to lynch shos, doesn't want no-lynch)
~P
Bussing is overrated, Pere.
You should have learned that from Prisoner of Azkaban.
Was Mist reading that slot a particular way before Leminiscate was pushed to claim + lynch? I thought Mist was town reading it for the way Leminiscate claimed. I remember Mist saying "this is something Leminiscate would do".
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In post 4193, ProHawk wrote:In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
LoL, after you mention my awesome post. (Actually put it in a link and ask for commentary which you probably hoped people wouldn't click on anyway). Yeah, you can still be scum, and if you are, you picked the wrong person to push.
The reason you have me in your scum pile is a load of crap.
No, I will hold those people to that question. I will hold everyone to the questions I posed in my catchup posts. Well, the ones that seem relevant now.
Your "awesome post" in question is actually why I suspect you. Someone else already made the commentary (I think AP or Iec) but it was fairly obvious what Leminiscate was trying to say in that post was exaggerated to some extent. I may be misreading your gusto for the Leminiscate lynch, that is true.
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In post 4195, Birds of Prey wrote:
Want to hear why you think they were roleblocked or jailkept by town or scum.
I put them in I guess they can be town because they haven't proven themselves yet.
Roleblocking them or jailkeeping them after their horrible play D1 primes them for lynching each day the ability is not proven.
I don't think they are going to be roleblocked anymore considering the claims we have, unless the scum have two distinct roleblockers and they would rather not take a shot in the dark.
In post 4196, Birds of Prey wrote:In post 4193, ProHawk wrote:In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
LoL, after you mention my awesome post. (Actually put it in a link and ask for commentary which you probably hoped people wouldn't click on anyway). Yeah, you can still be scum, and if you are, you picked the wrong person to push.
The reason you have me in your scum pile is a load of crap.
While I (drink Titus) thinks Oversoul is a pile of scumshit, I want to know why you think they have you as a scumread as I'm apparently prone to scumread Oversoul according to Dr. Who...
~Drunk Titus
You can't read me, 'tis true.
But are you scumreading me or Katsuki?
In post 4204, BulbaFenix wrote:You should help us lynch them tomorrow.
They feel pretty town.
In post 4204, BulbaFenix wrote:Have I mentioned that this is scum?
Yeah, after rereading more of Sven's posts his insistence to have some credit from Leminiscate's lynch is bad.
In post 4204, BulbaFenix wrote:What was it about that particular post that made you think Mist-scum?
Really, really trying to get that Shos mislynch instead of Leminiscate. Comes at a point in the game where it is clear that Shos plays erratically, yet she still holds that against him.
In post 4222, Abomination wrote:She's never posted in the window during the day between now and deadline from what I can tell.
I'm mostly worried well no lynch
Not exactly sure why people are scum reading this slot so hard. Posts like this go a long way toward making me feel that this slot is playing honest town.
In post 4223, Young and Beautiful wrote:Looks like Birds of Prey survived another day~
Let's see how long you can endure the dance of the Femme Fatale~
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Go away please, or at least make yourself useful.
In post 4224, Young and Beautiful wrote:I stick to principle. Not going to vote Mist because I am adamant that BoP is scum. Someone else ca do the hammering, anyway.
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?????
In post 4230, Nero Cain wrote:1. Lord Mhork
5. BulbaFenix
6. Oversoul
7. Squirrel Girl
9. notscience
11. Birds of Prey
16. Majiffy
20. neil1113
21. Abomination
^^^^
those are my preferred targets.
but I might compromise on
3. shos
18. Always
26. xofelf
28. HighShroomish
choose wisely, goat.
You have some of the absolute worst targets ever. Are you townreading BBmolla?
In post 4239, Svenskt Stål wrote:i like your list
Thank you.
Even though I am scum reading Mist and you strongly believe she is town?
In post 4244, geists wrote:In post 4230, Nero Cain wrote:1. Lord Mhork
5. BulbaFenix
6. Oversoul
7. Squirrel Girl
9. notscience
11. Birds of Prey
16. Majiffy
20. neil1113
21. Abomination
^^^^
those are my preferred targets.
but I might compromise on
3. shos
18. Always
26. xofelf
28. HighShroomish
choose wisely, goat.
are you townreading bbmolla?
FUCKING LOL, had the same exact thought when I read that post. ^^^
In post 4250, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:
I don't. I especially don't like the pattern of rationale tags.
What do you disagree with?
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In post 4262, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:
charizard above xof, but not for reason of claim (or you only felt the need to justify xof rather than charizard)
lord mhork being so high, given that half the scumlist is there for doing nothing.
Molla in the scumlist, xof in the townlist. You really think scum "counterclaimed" town on day 1?
shos and especially Y&B is also a claim-based townread, I would think, but only xof gets a "(claim)"
Some reads seem inconsistent with what should be an obvious conclusion given 3753.
Other minor points, but I'm actually more concerned about sven's response than issues with the list itself.
I only felt the need to justify Xof because she was a hot topic earlier in the game.
I said as much in my other catchup posts and even in that read, Mhork's early game I felt was super town.
Yes. Especially considering he didn't counterclaim but just tried to get people to disturst Xof's role.
They are. I thought that was self explanatory. I'm sorry if it wasn't. :\
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In post 4266, Nero Cain wrote:
They could be scum:
Squirrel Girl (don't really see the towniness from this one)
Svenskt Stal (does this person earnestly contribute to the game?)
The Goat
Neil1113 (I did not like his interactions with Leminiscate, still think he possibly recruited her to play the game to be scums together)
Scummy:
BBmolla (has done literally nothing this entire game)
ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
Venmar (has done exceptionally nothing this game except be super brusque with people, I can't remember if this is Venmar town meta though)
Mist7676 (super defensive unnecessarily)
In post 4230, Nero Cain wrote:1. Lord Mhork
5. BulbaFenix
6. Oversoul
7. Squirrel Girl
9. notscience
11. Birds of Prey
16. Majiffy
20. neil1113
21. Abomination
^^^^
those are my preferred targets.
Well, we share SG and Neil.
Other than Mist, I really don't think any of those guys are scum. (the ones on your list)
Bulb is somewhat lurky and robotic. Bulb town is a bigger presence.
I think Abomination is incredibly scummy. You don't even need to look far, just look at that crap over this Mist wagon.
I TOTES disagree with Fery that Jiffy town meta says he'd tunnel on a single player all day. I'll have to look but I don't understand why he stopped pushing Shos.
I think this only really makes sense if they knew that she was blocked.
I kinda agree with you about TSO looking like POA (so you may have a point there) but I have some niggles about NS.
I'll discuss Mhork later.
Why should I be town reading those players?
We do. I wouldn't mind you shooting either of them, but random chance doesn't mean that will happen.
I can see that Bulba read. You probably have more experience with him.
What do you mean? I'll reread that for you.
Jiffy has the demon claim from Shos on him though. Far more likely to be town than he isn't. Not a good shot in my opinion. Maybe another PR should choose him but not a vig.
Hmm... Maybe? I'm not sure I can overlook how they look after their claim.
Ok.
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I mean, pretty obvious at this point that Geists is town? If there is an SK (Naraku), they are either very unlucky, or choosing to no-kill.
I hate no-killing SKs worse than actual SKs.
Anyway, I don't think undead are de facto scum. I think if a Bo7 claims, that is probably de facto scum claim.
Pedit: yes, but at this point I think demons will comprise the majority of the town with a few humans and even fewer undead townies.
I was hoping it would be like Jason's Dr. Who large or Seacore's Good vs. evil, where they had two cops who could detect different aspects.-
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