In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:Townie:
Birds of Prey
beastcharizard
xoflelf (claim)
notscience (mostly from TSO read, reads similar to Prisoner of Azkaban TSO)
Nero Cain (typical bull headed Nero. Just I am not on the receiving end of it this time)
Geists (have some niggling suspicions about them but fairly strong townread)
Majiffy (higher up depending on Shos's answer to my question)
Moggle Dance Troupe
Lord Mhork (would be higher but D2 has been fairly bad for him)
Egg (suspected early on but has greatly improved as the game progressed, but his vote is rotting on me. Why?)
Shos
HighShroomish (miller-gate interactions)
I guess they can be town:
Young and Beautiful
Always (I could write a novel on my paranoia of Mastin)
BulbaFenix (less active than I would like but contributes)
Abomination
ActionDan
They could be scum:
Squirrel Girl (don't really see the towniness from this one)
Svenskt Stal (does this person earnestly contribute to the game?)
The Goat
Neil1113 (I did not like his interactions with Leminiscate, still think he possibly recruited her to play the game to be scums together)
Scummy:
BBmolla (has done literally nothing this entire game)
ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
Venmar (has done exceptionally nothing this game except be super brusque with people, I can't remember if this is Venmar town meta though)
Mist7676 (super defensive unnecessarily)
Ok yeah.
Why has no one made Molla put his money where his mouth is?
I would gladly string his buttocks to the rafters if time allowed.
I think given the situation Mist is a good lynch.
VOTE: Mist
i like your list
I don't. I especially don't like the pattern of rationale tags.
In post 4192, Birds of Prey wrote:Mist claimed and maintained a townread on Lemin throughout the Lemin lynch process. Why would scum not bus for credit (however small it would be at that point)?
Shrommish had Rhaego as a I don't know what the fuck to do with this pile read (845). Shroomish disagrees that if Rhaego is scum Egg is scum (972). Votes Lemin (2355) becoming 11th vote on wagon (doesn't want to lynch shos, doesn't want no-lynch)
~P
Bussing is overrated, Pere.
You should have learned that from Prisoner of Azkaban.
Was Mist reading that slot a particular way before Leminiscate was pushed to claim + lynch? I thought Mist was town reading it for the way Leminiscate claimed. I remember Mist saying "this is something Leminiscate would do".
I don't understand your Shroomish case. I will give you that having a scum as definitively null falls more in the direction of buddies. However, your other two points are not that strong for Shroomish-scum. Could you expand on the case overall?
In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
LoL, after you mention my awesome post. (Actually put it in a link and ask for commentary which you probably hoped people wouldn't click on anyway). Yeah, you can still be scum, and if you are, you picked the wrong person to push.
The reason you have me in your scum pile is a load of crap.
No, I will hold those people to that question. I will hold everyone to the questions I posed in my catchup posts. Well, the ones that seem relevant now.
Your "awesome post" in question is actually why I suspect you. Someone else already made the commentary (I think AP or Iec) but it was fairly obvious what Leminiscate was trying to say in that post was exaggerated to some extent. I may be misreading your gusto for the Leminiscate lynch, that is true.
I think you came to an overdrawn conclusion, but put a lot of work into that post so you're proud that you think it nabbed scum. I mean, I could see the towniness behind that. I'm not done suspecting you though.
Want to hear why you think they were roleblocked or jailkept by town or scum.
I put them in I guess they can be town because they haven't proven themselves yet.
Roleblocking them or jailkeeping them after their horrible play D1 primes them for lynching each day the ability is not proven.
I don't think they are going to be roleblocked anymore considering the claims we have, unless the scum have two distinct roleblockers and they would rather not take a shot in the dark.
In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
LoL, after you mention my awesome post. (Actually put it in a link and ask for commentary which you probably hoped people wouldn't click on anyway). Yeah, you can still be scum, and if you are, you picked the wrong person to push.
The reason you have me in your scum pile is a load of crap.
While I (drink Titus) thinks Oversoul is a pile of scumshit, I want to know why you think they have you as a scumread as I'm apparently prone to scumread Oversoul according to Dr. Who...
~Drunk Titus
You can't read me, 'tis true.
But are you scumreading me or Katsuki?
Yeah, after rereading more of Sven's posts his insistence to have some credit from Leminiscate's lynch is bad.
In post 4204, BulbaFenix wrote:What was it about that particular post that made you think Mist-scum?
Really, really trying to get that Shos mislynch instead of Leminiscate. Comes at a point in the game where it is clear that Shos plays erratically, yet she still holds that against him.
In post 4222, Abomination wrote:She's never posted in the window during the day between now and deadline from what I can tell.
I'm mostly worried well no lynch
Not exactly sure why people are scum reading this slot so hard. Posts like this go a long way toward making me feel that this slot is playing honest town.
Let's see how long you can endure the dance of the Femme Fatale~
- b -
Go away please, or at least make yourself useful.
In post 4224, Young and Beautiful wrote:I stick to principle. Not going to vote Mist because I am adamant that BoP is scum. Someone else ca do the hammering, anyway.
- b -
?????
In post 4230, Nero Cain wrote:1. Lord Mhork
5. BulbaFenix
6. Oversoul
7. Squirrel Girl
9. notscience
11. Birds of Prey
16. Majiffy
20. neil1113
21. Abomination
^^^^
those are my preferred targets.
but I might compromise on
3. shos
18. Always
26. xofelf
28. HighShroomish
choose wisely, goat.
You have some of the absolute worst targets ever. Are you townreading BBmolla?
In post 4230, Nero Cain wrote:1. Lord Mhork
5. BulbaFenix
6. Oversoul
7. Squirrel Girl
9. notscience
11. Birds of Prey
16. Majiffy
20. neil1113
21. Abomination
^^^^
those are my preferred targets.
but I might compromise on
3. shos
18. Always
26. xofelf
28. HighShroomish
choose wisely, goat.
are you townreading bbmolla?
FUCKING LOL, had the same exact thought when I read that post. ^^^
In post 4182, Oversoul wrote:Townie:
Birds of Prey
beastcharizard
xoflelf (claim)
notscience (mostly from TSO read, reads similar to Prisoner of Azkaban TSO)
Nero Cain (typical bull headed Nero. Just I am not on the receiving end of it this time)
Geists (have some niggling suspicions about them but fairly strong townread)
Majiffy (higher up depending on Shos's answer to my question)
Moggle Dance Troupe
Lord Mhork (would be higher but D2 has been fairly bad for him)
Egg (suspected early on but has greatly improved as the game progressed, but his vote is rotting on me. Why?)
Shos
HighShroomish (miller-gate interactions)
I guess they can be town:
Young and Beautiful
Always (I could write a novel on my paranoia of Mastin)
BulbaFenix (less active than I would like but contributes)
Abomination
ActionDan
They could be scum:
Squirrel Girl (don't really see the towniness from this one)
Svenskt Stal (does this person earnestly contribute to the game?)
The Goat
Neil1113 (I did not like his interactions with Leminiscate, still think he possibly recruited her to play the game to be scums together)
Scummy:
BBmolla (has done literally nothing this entire game)
ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
Venmar (has done exceptionally nothing this game except be super brusque with people, I can't remember if this is Venmar town meta though)
Mist7676 (super defensive unnecessarily)
Ok yeah.
Why has no one made Molla put his money where his mouth is?
I would gladly string his buttocks to the rafters if time allowed.
I think given the situation Mist is a good lynch.
VOTE: Mist
i like your list
I don't. I especially don't like the pattern of rationale tags.
What do you disagree with?
Mod, V/LA until 18th of August. I will have access but it will be through a phone and/or a shitty laptop. I will probably only be making one-liners until then.
we have 5.5 hours starting from this post until deadline. and you guys keep talking about irrelevant things while not voting either of the main wagons.
I'm not even mad, you are just being pathetic right now. Please, keep QQing, it feeds my ego.
Besides, you don't get to brag that you were the
first
second on that wagon if you were easily dissuaded by a fucking 4-man mason team claim, that no one wanted to confirm for him. You are the joke, go act being tough somewhere else babe.
I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 4130, Squirrel Girl wrote:I agree, the poisoner should try to poison him and then claim result.
Now this is role fishing~
For those who townread Mist - I offer evidence proving she either isn't reading, or had a hole drilled in her head.
It's an opportunistic swipe that makes no sense.
Thank you.
I'm not even mad, you are just being pathetic right now. Please, keep QQing, it feeds my ego.
Besides, you don't get to brag that you were the
first
second on that wagon if you were easily dissuaded by a fucking 4-man mason team claim, that no one wanted to confirm for him. You are the joke, go act being tough somewhere else babe.
charizard above xof, but not for reason of claim (or you only felt the need to justify xof rather than charizard)
lord mhork being so high, given that half the scumlist is there for doing nothing.
Molla in the scumlist, xof in the townlist. You really think scum "counterclaimed" town on day 1?
shos and especially Y&B is also a claim-based townread, I would think, but only xof gets a "(claim)"
Some reads seem inconsistent with what should be an obvious conclusion given 3753.
Other minor points, but I'm actually more concerned about sven's response than issues with the list itself.
charizard above xof, but not for reason of claim (or you only felt the need to justify xof rather than charizard)
lord mhork being so high, given that half the scumlist is there for doing nothing.
Molla in the scumlist, xof in the townlist. You really think scum "counterclaimed" town on day 1?
shos and especially Y&B is also a claim-based townread, I would think, but only xof gets a "(claim)"
Some reads seem inconsistent with what should be an obvious conclusion given 3753.
Other minor points, but I'm actually more concerned about sven's response than issues with the list itself.
I only felt the need to justify Xof because she was a hot topic earlier in the game.
I said as much in my other catchup posts and even in that read, Mhork's early game I felt was super town.
Yes. Especially considering he didn't counterclaim but just tried to get people to disturst Xof's role.
They are. I thought that was self explanatory. I'm sorry if it wasn't. :\
That was my first catchup post and more interesting things happened with my other catchup post.
They could be scum:
Squirrel Girl (don't really see the towniness from this one)
Svenskt Stal (does this person earnestly contribute to the game?)
The Goat
Neil1113 (I did not like his interactions with Leminiscate, still think he possibly recruited her to play the game to be scums together)
Scummy:
BBmolla (has done literally nothing this entire game)
ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
Venmar (has done exceptionally nothing this game except be super brusque with people, I can't remember if this is Venmar town meta though)
Mist7676 (super defensive unnecessarily)
In post 4230, Nero Cain wrote:1. Lord Mhork
5. BulbaFenix
6. Oversoul
7. Squirrel Girl
9. notscience
11. Birds of Prey
16. Majiffy
20. neil1113
21. Abomination
^^^^
those are my preferred targets.
Well, we share SG and Neil.
Other than Mist, I really don't think any of those guys are scum. (the ones on your list)
Bulb is somewhat lurky and robotic. Bulb town is a bigger presence.
I think Abomination is incredibly scummy. You don't even need to look far, just look at that crap over this Mist wagon.
I TOTES disagree with Fery that Jiffy town meta says he'd tunnel on a single player all day. I'll have to look but I don't understand why he stopped pushing Shos.
I think this only really makes sense if they knew that she was blocked.
I kinda agree with you about TSO looking like POA (so you may have a point there) but I have some niggles about NS.
I'll discuss Mhork later.
Why should I be town reading those players?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
In post 4265, The Goat wrote:I'm sure Nero's around somewhere as well. That should handle it.
I'm already on. You to help me lynch abomination tomorrow.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
They could be scum:
Squirrel Girl (don't really see the towniness from this one)
Svenskt Stal (does this person earnestly contribute to the game?)
The Goat
Neil1113 (I did not like his interactions with Leminiscate, still think he possibly recruited her to play the game to be scums together)
Scummy:
BBmolla (has done literally nothing this entire game)
ProHawk (didn't like him trying to take credit for Lem)
Venmar (has done exceptionally nothing this game except be super brusque with people, I can't remember if this is Venmar town meta though)
Mist7676 (super defensive unnecessarily)
In post 4230, Nero Cain wrote:1. Lord Mhork
5. BulbaFenix
6. Oversoul
7. Squirrel Girl
9. notscience
11. Birds of Prey
16. Majiffy
20. neil1113
21. Abomination
^^^^
those are my preferred targets.
Well, we share SG and Neil.
Other than Mist, I really don't think any of those guys are scum. (the ones on your list)
Bulb is somewhat lurky and robotic. Bulb town is a bigger presence.
I think Abomination is incredibly scummy. You don't even need to look far, just look at that crap over this Mist wagon.
I TOTES disagree with Fery that Jiffy town meta says he'd tunnel on a single player all day. I'll have to look but I don't understand why he stopped pushing Shos.
I think this only really makes sense if they knew that she was blocked.
I kinda agree with you about TSO looking like POA (so you may have a point there) but I have some niggles about NS.
I'll discuss Mhork later.
Why should I be town reading those players?
We do. I wouldn't mind you shooting either of them, but random chance doesn't mean that will happen.
I can see that Bulba read. You probably have more experience with him.
What do you mean? I'll reread that for you.
Jiffy has the demon claim from Shos on him though. Far more likely to be town than he isn't. Not a good shot in my opinion. Maybe another PR should choose him but not a vig.
Hmm... Maybe? I'm not sure I can overlook how they look after their claim.
Ok.
Looking forward to it. I am willing to reconsider about Mhork given his Day 2.
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Maybe another PR should choose him but not a vig.
