InuYasha Mafia (Game Over)

[Lord Mhork]

I don't think so? I honestly don't remember.

...although now you're making me doubt myself. I remember many games where I had pegged Titus as scum, though now I can't remember if she were actually scum or not. The point remains, though, that I have also played a lot with Titus. You're not the only one who has played with her before.

[Oversoul]

Because I would think scum have a strongman or something similar. Their powers would be scattered making it more likely the kill would succeed.
I see the angle you're trying to push and it isn't going to work.

along with the supposed scumslip that Kagami looked at, this looks like another SK-slip. remember how I was a strongman-but-probably-not-enough-for-Naraku?
why would he assume scum have a strongman?
now we know that town do not have any protection powers..

so I'm guessing that OS is the SK and knows that hsi barrier is strong enough to prevent even strongman kills, and that explains that page.

VOTE: oversoul

Mmm nope. Never been SK. I want to. I would not waste my first time playing SK by slowly drifting away like this.

id like oversoul to full claim, as well as describing what his role pm says about kikyo

Hmm? Why and why? You don't seem like the flavor type.

Why does Kikyo matter at all on your read of me?
You *really* think that I would say my teammate's fakeclaim? Yeah. Okay, Muffin. You've gone off the deep end.

Kikyo is mentioned twice in my role PM. I thought that was a lot for a character that I didn't have a role connection with.

I have already been abundantly clear about my opinions re: undead + demon given my stance on game design.

[Young and Beautiful]

@Squirrel Girl

I have looked over the new evidence that you have provided, and sadly none of them reach the standards of the first original post that you quoted that had caught my attention.

This is your first piece of evidence:

vote BoP

moonlogic=scum!titus

check streetracers and how you want to die

how you want to die:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=51356

street racers:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34551

both games had moonlogic and thats how she got outed as scum

It is a very poor piece of evidence and does not point to Titus town in any way. May I remind you that the action of calling Titus scum is not necessarily scumvstown interactions, but might be a scumvsscum interaction in the form of distancing. Since this post was made in Day 1, all the more that distancing would have occurred. The fact that you have chosen this piece of evidence to defend Titus, only shows that distance attempts, no matter how minor or small or how long ago, can still have an impact on the game.

This piece of evidence is poor because: The post by Abomination itself is half-hearted and non-committal. A vote on BoP does not a Town BoP make. It could certainly be perceived as them both being scumpartners, and thus a half-hearted push on Day 1 would not lead to a lynch, although they both knew the answers as to who was scum.

The second piece of evidence that you have linked:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6013030

As the above, this reveals nothing about Titus alignment. I believe the main point that you were looking at was:

Rhaego is scummy because they are doing nothing at all that is helpful to the town. Their posts are just dumb questions with zero content what so ever. Their claim of scum hunting is not actually that. It feels like they are going more for making noise than anything else.

This is why I think Rhaego is scum.

Why is Rhaego the worst offender of this?

If Rhaego is scum, so is Egg for this post. It subtly says only the worst offender at a particular transgression can be scum and searches for another player to make worse than Rhaego.

- Venus Fly Trap -

This is a scum post attempting to connect a Rhaego scum flip to Egg.

I'll continue this after I wake up and take care of a few more pressing issues. I'd rather not do any more of these when I'm this tired.

On to page 40.

-Bulba

This post is very interesting, notably the sentence "This is a scum post attempting to connect a Rhaego scum flip to Egg.". Knowing that Rhaego scum flip is actually true, and also Egg is town as far as we can see (although this isn't confirmed, it can be safely assumed), it is not a stretch to say that BulbaFenix might have been telling the truth. There is no reason to believe that it is

NOT

a scum post to connect a Rhaego scum flip to Egg. In fact, I feel that this post points towards BoP scum rather than BoP town... your choice of evidence is not very helpful to your case. I can infer that you are not a Literature student.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6072137

I don't think that this post means anything.

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As much as I appreciate your efforts in finding three relevant posts to help us shed some light on BoP's alignment, I did mention that they should be three

good and convincing

piece of evidence. The posts that you have found were not convincing, and I am unable to give them the credit as I have for the first original piece of evidence that you have found in an earlier post.

Sorry, but you might have to find three (actually, two more, since you have already found one)

solid

pieces of evidence to convince me that BoP is town, because at the moment, you only have one, and from the above efforts, it appears that you are unable to find any more relevant ones.

I still think that BoP is scum.

- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

I remember many games where I had pegged Titus as scum, though now I can't remember if she were actually scum or not.

...

How does this even happen? Did you die all the time before she had flipped? Did you always replace out before you could see her flip?



- b -

[zMuffinMan]

You *really* think that I would say my teammate's fakeclaim?

no

i doubt you even knew what aronis's fake-claim was, given discussing fake-claim flavour isn't exactly high priority for any scum team (virtually never happens ime)

i wanted to know what the context behind the kikyo mentions in your role PM are

I have already been abundantly clear about my opinions re: undead + demon given my stance on game design.

yeah but you're supposedly a flavour-miller

a
flavour
miller

if you investigate as undead, and you're a flavour miller, how does this not tell you what to expect about scum in this setup?

(also still doubt katsuki says "im negative utility" instead of just claiming flavour miller but that's not really something you can say anything about)

[Lord Mhork]

No YB I just have an insanely poor memory and a lot of games I've played. Shit blurs together.

[Squirrel Girl]

@Y&B - why didn't you discuss my stated reasoning for finding the posts townish? Like, you ignore that the one case, half-arsed it may be, was still tied as the biggest case Abomination made all game. It is in *context* not in isolation that it suggests an issue with BoP being a buddy.

Also, literature student or no - please explain why a scum player would call out another scum player for trying to tie a town player to a scumbuddy. What, were they hedging their bets on how bad that one would go down or something? Explain to me the scum strategy there please.

[zMuffinMan]

Btw oversoul

What is your full role name?

[Oversoul]

I'm honestly over this game and I will self hammer given the chance so either make that happen or lynch BoP like you all seem to be aiming towards. You've all talked this way and that, time to put your money where your mouth is.

Being a miller is stupid and I have hated every minute of it.

[ProHawk]

Spoiler:

Robin

: "I'd never assume that! What kind of monster would curse their friend..."

Tharja

: "...Oh. Right. That would be crazy! Heh heh."

Welcome to Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia, Saki. You are

Tharja, Neutral Female Childbearer Hexmage Inquisitive Serial Killer

.

Abilities:

Proposee

(passive): As a female, during the day you may receive proposals from male players. If you do, I will notify you of this and tell you the screen name (not rolename) of the proposer. You will have the rest of the day, plus the first 24 hours of night, to decide whether to accept. If you do, the two of you become a neighborhood.

Childbearer

(passive): If you successfully marry another player, your child, Noire, will enter the game the following day and join your family neighborhood. Unlike most children in the game, you know that Noire will by default enter the game as a Neutral player and will join you to become a miniature mafia. However, you also know that she is only guaranteed to share your alignment if your husband is Town. As such, marrying a town-aligned player is likely in your best interests.

Inquisitive

(semi-active, 1-shot): To help ensure you can find a town-aligned husband, you have a one-shot ability to investigate a player proposing to you (you may do this during the Day or during the first 24 hours of Night). You will learn whether or not your target was Town, and can then choose whether to marry him.

Hexmage

(active, night): You are a master of the dark arts and have learned a wide variety of curses you can lay on others for a variety of different effects. As such, at night, you may use any of the following powers in addition to your nightkill. You may use only one of them per night, and may not choose the same power two consecutive nights (you don't want to get bored, mixing things up is more fun).
Target takes one less vote to lynch tomorrow (can't use this if 6 or fewer players are living)
Target can't be protected tonight (may not also kill said player)
Target becomes an Ascetic tonight and tomorrow, so non-killing abilities targetting them will fail (yes, this prevents proposals)
Target cannot make proposals tomorrow
You become a Ninja tonight
Voyeur
Silence target for first 24 hours of real-time tomorrow
Target can't vote tomorrow (can't be used later than N4)
Roleblock (you may only choose this power once)

If you don't know what any of those abilities does feel free to ask.

Serial Killer

(active, night): Apparently Robin, with whom you are infatuated, is “straight”. Well, if you can't have her, then no one can! You never cared much about these Ylisseans and their “morals” anyways. Each night you may kill another player. You do not have a particular kill method (they will simply turn up as “killed”). If you die and Noire shares your alignment, she will inherit this ability.

You win when your faction (whether Noire is in it or not) comprises half the game (you explicitly know that you win all ties so long as you are alive).

You may confirm via PM now or via thread once I unlock it.

i wonder how likely it is ceph included a SK with unique modifiers here!?

That sounds an aweful more like Shos' role claim than mine don'tcha think?

[Oversoul]

Also, what the fuck is a flavor miller? Like seriously Muffin what in the fucking hell are you even trying to prove? I do not understand any point you're trying to make here.

If I am a flavor miller so is Mhork apparently but you're giving him a pass for god knows what reason even though he LITERALLY CLAIMED scum.

[ProHawk]

so youre clearing him because you dont think scum would distance from each other with

15

to lynch D1?

This times 1,000,000,000.

Birds, why are you conveniently forgetting that Katsuki/Le Cupcake said they had role info clearing Lemniscate, which was subsequently ignored when questioned on and later resulted in a peace-out-replacement?

[Oversoul]

My role is Town Demon Undead Vanilla.
Both of my abilities are passives. The first one is that I am a demon. There is no flavor justification given for this.
The second is that I count for the undead. There is a flavor justification given for this and it is basically because I am always around the graveyard and dead shit.

I don't know why Katsuki made any comments he did but if I had to guess it would be due to being both a demon and undead, which has obvious connections to some sort of race cop type role. If Katsuki did know that Demon = town (which I still don't believe is a 100% certainty) a two different race cops could technically prove that I am what I say I am. So yes, I am not technically a miller but I am negative utility.

Was that really so hard for you to parse or are you being obtuse on purpose?

[Oversoul]

/rant

[Young and Beautiful]

@Y&B - why didn't you discuss my stated reasoning for finding the posts townish? Like, you ignore that the one case, half-arsed it may be, was still tied as the biggest case Abomination made all game. It is in *context* not in isolation that it suggests an issue with BoP being a buddy.

I don't understand. Can you please rephrase?

And no, that isn't a case. Abomination played poorly, and that 'case' was obviously written in lesser time that I had taken to respond to your post.

Also, literature student or no - please explain why a scum player would call out another scum player for trying to tie a town player to a scumbuddy. What, were they hedging their bets on how bad that one would go down or something? Explain to me the scum strategy there please.

Distancing. BulbaFenix was obviously not interested in playing the game, or playing a scum role. He was obviously expecting to go down some time in the future; it would be better to distance from BoP, assuming she is scum, as Titus has more willpower to play the game and carry it for the team. Plus, there was also an added intention to paint Egg as scum as well.

- b -

[Oversoul]

Katsuki flaking being a lurker = town Katsuki.

Learn to Meta. Thank me later for any and all future games you have with Katsuki.

Thank you and good night.

[Young and Beautiful]

Learn to Meta.

That's why BoP is #1 lynch target!

[ProHawk]

Meta changes. I am not being obtuse, I just really think your slot is scum.

[Young and Beautiful]

Name	Flavor	Race	Role/Abilities	Actions	Comments	Alignment
Lord Mhork	Renkotsu	Undead	1-shot Watcher
shos	InuYasha	Demon	Scenter Empathic Vigilante
ProHawk	Tsubaki	Human	Shard Thief
Oversoul	Urasue	Demon	Race Miller
Squirrel Girl			Doublevoter
BeastCharizrd	Sango	Human	Poison Immune
notscience	Kohaku	Human	Faustian Pupper
Birds of Prey	Hakudoshi	Demon	Ascetic
ActionDan		Human	Poison Doctor
Kagami	Princess Abi	Demon	Faustian Puppet
Majiffy	Ryujin	Demon	Faustian Puppet
Neil1113		Demon	Neighbour
Young and Beautiful	Jijenji	Demon	Friendly Neighbour
TheGoat	Kagome	Human	Shard Cop
Penguin_Alien	Ginta	Demon	Neighbour
BBMolla	Midoriko	Human	JoaT
Egg			2-shot Tracker
zMuffinMan		Demon	VT
Lemniscate	Jakotsu	Undead	2-shot nonconsecutive Ninja			SCUM
AngryIceRink	Ryukotsusei	Demon	VT			TOWN
Mist7676	Miroku	Human	Demon Cop			TOWN
geists	Rin	Human	VT			TOWN
Xofelf	Shippo	Demon	JoaT			TOWN
Abomination	Bankotsu	Undead	Even night Jewel Cop / 1-shot Jewel Thief			SCUM
The Chamber of Kittens	Hakkaku	Demon	Neighbour			TOWN
Serene2	Hosenki	Demon	Shard Holder			TOWN
Aronis	Suikotsu	Undead	1-shot Odd-night Poison Doctor			SCUM
Nero Cain	Sota Higurashi	Human	VT			TOWN

Someone complete this. I have no time or will and this is much easier to navigate and read.

Right, I just thought of something very important.

Not all the claims that have been given are truthful.

There is still a Reviver, and they are obviously keeping their role and identity a secret.

It goes without saying that there are other claims that are either blatant lies or lying by omission.
- - - - - -

There might be a chance that BoP is town.

Birds of Prey, are you the Reviver?

Think carefully before you answer this question.

It is a critical moment.

- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

I know, B! This game is so big and it's so exciting but that's also why from here on I'm just going to cheer for B from the sidelines.

As for the rest of you children, no trashtalking B! You guys just need to all take a step back and watch B put her scumhunting SHINE on! She is always right! Always!

I believe in you, B! Keep it up!

- y -

[Young and Beautiful]

I love you too Y! :*

I missed you so much! Your scum-pushing skills are magnificent, and it is difficult for a beautiful lady like myself to push heavy wagons...

I do wish you can join us on Day 6 though, and I'll catch you up! You can pretend that the first 5 days didn't happen and start afresh on a new day!


We're going to make history!~

- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

OK B, but please first check your main! I just sent you a PM containing content!~ :*

Kiss! Kiss! Fall in Love!,

- y -

[Lord Mhork]

What the fuck are you even talking about YB? What is the history? How are you making it? When will you actually go for real scum?

[Young and Beautiful]

We're going to be part of a record-breaking game in Mafiascum! Aren't you excited?

- b -

[Young and Beautiful]

Shut your pie hole and leave B alone Lord Mhork! She is doing just fine without you yelling at her...

- y -