Good vs Evil, Law vs Chaos Reboot - Game Over, Good wins

[Norman]

Hi guys. The name's Norm...

So what are our options here...

Hmmm... What are our options...

Someone give me a list of options...

[Norman]

Vote:

Foxace

Reason:

Pending...

FoS:

Lemons, Magnua, Riggs

Mr. Foxace... Let me ask you a few questions... Answer truly to all your extent. If you lie, I don't care because I'm immune to socialization.

Now... Thank god I have this Complete Idiot's Guide for Private Investigators...

Now lets gets started.

First of all Foxace, I'd like to ask you, what is you favourite number.

Secondly... What is your GPA...

Thirdly... What's your favourite hobby?

Fourthly, what do you plan to do in the future of this game? It can be estimated if you want it to be.

Fifthly, why do you like Naruto?

Sixthly, why did you intend to hang Mr. Riggs then Mr. Maniacal Lemon?




Also I want Mr. Lemon, Mr. Riggs, and Mr. Magnua to answer my questions as well. Please be honest as possible. Thanks. The Naruto question is not mandatory if you don't watch the show. (I don't watch anime or any of that Asian weird stuff).

Don't ignore the questions. I want straight answers.

[Norman]

1. 3

2. Haven't checked in a while. Its like 3.8+

3. Dancing. (Inb4ballet. Nope, its called popping. Dope ass shit, look it up)

4. Get rid of all the scum.

5. It's fucking amazing, that's why.

6. It's RVS. I was fucking around. Rigs because he likes P&T and ML because he unvoted during RVS. I voted purely out of trolling and the fact that it IS RVS.






Now tell me this....
Why did YOU vote for me?

Is it just another RVS vote or something more?

I voted for you simply because you were first on my agenda.

Now then, let me ask YOU this: Is this how you usually act in Mafia games? And does Riggs usually defend Lemons or this other person in ANY game, regardless?

As or Magnua, I do believe he might be a scumbag. His refusal to not answer my questions, during night time, is probably an act a scumbag would probably do and then vote me because I randomly make votes depending on first, roster picks and then detection.

Vote: Magnua
Reason: Not complying and acting suspicious.

Everyone else who didn't post and who is currently voting me right after Mr. Magnua did, I take you to be a scumbag.

[Norman]

Do you usually act like what you did on the first page?

[Norman]

Alright... I think you're not a scumbag. But then again I might be wrong.

As for Magnua, and Riggs, they remain on my FoS list.

And for Lemons, I'm going to have to ask what you are listening to right now.

And for everyone else, do you have your own original role from the original game?

[Norman]

Norman is most likely a troll.
Riggs isn't defending me... his first and only vote is

on

me.
I'm listening to Attack! by System of a Down... Troll

I deny that I'm a troll. Is this what you usually listen to, or is it on occasions?

And you better be true about this.

[Norman]

ManiacalLemon. You've earned yourself my distrust.

FoS: Lemons, MagnuaOfIllusion, Empking, Pine, and greenknight.

Until you 3 can tell me exactly why you're voting me, (exlcuding Lemons because I think he's trying to bluff me and make me think he's not a scumbag) you will remain on my FoS list.

As for Green Knight who recently asked why I'm asking these "random" questions... No these aren't random questions, genius, these are background checks and investigations.

[Norman]

So by the great power of deduction, your scum list and hunting abilities consists of people suspecting you? Is this correct?

Sometimes, sometimes not. It depends. And the validations of my answers are top secret. You nor anyone else will never know my intentions.

As for Lemons, why would you care if I'm replaced. That makes you more of a scumbag.

Vote: Lemon
Reason: Early information.

[Norman]

Norman is clearly trolling. Sadly I don't think this behaviour makes him any more likely than the usual random chance to be scum.Anyway, after reviewing the archive of the old thread, Vote: AurorusVox. I'm suspicious of the amount of buddying/alliance building he seemed to be doing.

You're probably a scumbag. Don't ever say anything like that because I'm not trying to be a troll. I think you and Magnua are scum.

@ Foxace:

Tell me exactly why you're "iffy" about me. What does that imply?

[Norman]

I'm neither what you said Foxace.

I'm really a nobody in this game. I'm the person that says alot of things in a certain room, as if I was talking about someone to someone, ranting about but then when you go in there, opening that door to the room, you don't see the person I'm talking to, and you don't see me. You see only the shadow of a body but you don't see a real person. I am the embodiment of obscurity.

That's what I am, and I will reman so.


As for Lemons, I don't think you know what I'm doing. But I'm not going to reveal even so if you and some of your delightful acquaintances lynch me. And even if you do, you're losing another number crucial to your manpower.

[Norman]

Magua I'm definitive you are a scumbag. In fact I'm really seeing that you are one. Such a waste that you have to live.

But sometimes a man must sacrifice himself for his own beliefs if necessary. And if so, I'm willing to do that to make people see the truth of things.

And I'm not going to be replaced. No matter no how.

And no one answered if their original roles are the same roles on this game. I'd like to know what that the answer is to that.

And I am trying to scumhunt, in fact I'm really trying hard. You people aren't just realizing it.

[Norman]

That was quite funny, Fox.

No that wasn't funny at all. Understand, everyone, if you want to take me seriously, or are trying to, please think profoundly to what I am doing. I'm not being a complete waste of time. So please, stop trolling me. It's the way of how I play things. Kondi you know exactly what I'm doing and I think you only want me out because you either hate me or you're a scumbag. Everyone who has played with me, KNOWS, exactly what I'm doing.

[Norman]

Kondi, if you were to look at my posts before in my games, yes, you would know. It's a shame you really don't know what I'm doing and plan to replace me.

And Foxace, there is reason behind everything. In fact a number of reasons. Every witness I've talked to in this game, and in every other game I've written down notes of personality and current reactions. I've asked serious quesions and I've asked rather odd questions. I've even placed Paint pictures for lots of reasons. Sometimes I do different things, sometimes I do the same things in different games or games that look like scenarios from older games.

Sometimes you even have to be illogical to get the information you want.

[Norman]

You are running a personality analisys on everyone.....?

*Sigh*

I've heard it all.


I hope you're not just throwing out bullshit and that ou are actuall town and this might actually help incriminate someone.

Yeah... I'm not throwing out B.S. I can assure you everything I do has a purpose. Even if it has no purpose at all it's worth being paranoid.

[Norman]

I do have* a purpose. Oh this computer really bugs the hell out of me.

[Norman]

Vote:

Foxace

Reason:

Pending...

FoS:

Lemons, Magnua, Riggs

Mr. Foxace... Let me ask you a few questions... Answer truly to all your extent. If you lie, I don't care because I'm immune to socialization.

Now... Thank god I have this Complete Idiot's Guide for Private Investigators...

Now lets gets started.

First of all Foxace, I'd like to ask you, what is you favourite number.

Secondly... What is your GPA...

Thirdly... What's your favourite hobby?

Fourthly, what do you plan to do in the future of this game? It can be estimated if you want it to be.

Fifthly, why do you like Naruto?

Sixthly, why did you intend to hang Mr. Riggs then Mr. Maniacal Lemon?




Also I want Mr. Lemon, Mr. Riggs, and Mr. Magua to answer my questions as well. Please be honest as possible. Thanks. The Naruto question is not mandatory if you don't watch the show. (I don't watch anime or any of that Asian weird stuff).

Don't ignore the questions. I want straight answers.

*puke* Did you forget this was mafia and not the place to have a survey for your school paper?

Ok you're definantly added to my FoS list

FoS list:

Lemons, Magua, Tammy, Empking, and Pine.

This is a mafiascum.net game, stop questioning my accusation techniques. And just for that I think you might a scumbag.

[Norman]

I'm wary of the Norman wagon. I've seen enough people used as martyrs on day 1 for talking about lame things to know when town is lynching town. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone on that wagon is town.

Tell me, why are you wary at my own hanging? And there could be a possibility at least one scumbag is on that wagon. And I'm betting Lemons.
It's really a gamble but I'd rather kill him because above everyone talking he looks like one. Anyone on my FoS list could be a scumbag as well. And anyone else just yet about to talk, they could be scumbags.

As for Tammy's introspection on LMP, I'd like to hear to what he has to say to after all this time of bickering and social war.

[Norman]

1. 3

2. Haven't checked in a while. Its like 3.8+

3. Dancing. (Inb4ballet. Nope, its called popping. Dope ass shit, look it up)

4. Get rid of all the scum.

5. It's fucking amazing, that's why.

6. It's RVS. I was fucking around. Rigs because he likes P&T and ML because he unvoted during RVS. I voted purely out of trolling and the fact that it IS RVS.






Now tell me this....
Why did YOU vote for me?

Is it just another RVS vote or something more?

I voted for you simply because you were first on my agenda.

Now then, let me ask YOU this: Is this how you usually act in Mafia games? And does Riggs usually defend Lemons or this other person in ANY game, regardless?

As or Magnua, I do believe he might be a scumbag. His refusal to not answer my questions, during night time, is probably an act a scumbag would probably do and then vote me because I randomly make votes depending on first, roster picks and then detection.

Vote: Magnua
Reason: Not complying and acting suspicious.

Everyone else who didn't post and who is currently voting me right after Mr. Magnua did, I take you to be a scumbag.

You've turned OMGUS into an artform.

That's not OMGUS. It's something, but it's not OMGUS.

[Norman]

Alright... I
And for everyone else, do you have your own original role from the original game?

Yes, we all do. You could find this out by reading the queue where we reconfirmed.

Oh well, I beg to differ, Tammy. Because I did read it. Maybe I forgot that everyone had their own original roles. In fact, why are you asking me this? I stated earlier that I'm not telling why I'm asking these questions.

I choose the 5th amendment until further notice.

[Norman]

No it's not asking it's telling... I say ask alot don't I. Yeah I do...

[Norman]

Still got him on there. Sorry it's just alot of people... After all is there 2 teams of good aligned people and 2 teams of evil aligned people and a square inch of grey people?

[Norman]

Norman, what happened to your FOS on greenknight?

It could be all town, or all scum. Or even half and half. But I'll take bets and guesses on it. The only real evidence is after the 1st day... To which I may be able o discover quicklier who might be who...

And Tammy I saw that sentence you said above of me. I'm not telling the order of what I'm going to do, or what my plans are. The things I do aren't silly. Everything I do is a cover up to the real investigation. Everything I say is a cover up. You and everyone else will never see what I'm doing for scumhunting.

I will say it incorrectly in public. It's for you to decide what I'm actually doing. But then again it's all coverups.

[Norman]

To discover* This computer annoys the hell out of me.

[Norman]

Norman, what happened to your FOS on greenknight?

Also Kondi, one more thing. Why would you care about my FoS list?

[Norman]

FuDuzn... CooLDoG... Let the active people stop talking and let these mockers say something for once.

[Norman]

They aren't talking at all...

If only I can remember where I put that note with people looking at the thread...

Damn it, curse my organization skills...

And Mhork I'm well aware Kondi might be scum.

[Norman]

I submitted my Daykill on you.

Next time Seacore posts you will be flipped.

Shotty alert.

........


Anyways...


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Norman


You seem like the best candidate for a lynch right now?

What say you?

Sheep much? He comes off as more of a noob/troll to me.

Are you really going to defend someone because they are a troll? norman can't be a noob, look at his join date.

As or Magnua, I do believe he might be a scumbag.

His refusal to not answer my questions, during night time, is probably an act a scumbag would probably do

and then vote me because I randomly make votes depending on first, roster picks and then detection.

Am I missing something here??? During night time?

Everyone else who didn't post and who is currently voting me right after Mr. Magnua did, I take you to be a scumbag.

Nice blanket statement thar.

Norman is most likely a troll.
Riggs isn't defending me... his first and only vote is

on

me.
I'm listening to Attack! by System of a Down... Troll

This is literately the first time I have ever heard the "he is a VI defense" used multiple times by the same person by page 3. Why do you feel the need to defend someone this early. Eat a vote:

vote: lemon

I'm going to ignore Norman's slot until he's replaced... if he's replaced >.>

Can everybody vote this guy now?
...
Am I doing it right?

ManiacalLemon. You've earned yourself my distrust.

FoS: Lemons, MagnuaOfIllusion, Empking, Pine, and greenknight.

Until you 3 can tell me exactly why you're voting me, (exlcuding Lemons because I think he's trying to bluff me and make me think he's not a scumbag) you will remain on my FoS list.

As for Green Knight who recently asked why I'm asking these "random" questions... No these aren't random questions, genius, these are background checks and investigations.

So by the great power of deduction, your scum list and hunting abilities consists of people suspecting you? Is this correct?

What do you deduce from this?

Norman is clearly trolling. Sadly I don't think this behaviour makes him any more likely than the usual random chance to be scum.

Anyway, after reviewing the archive of the old thread,

Vote: AurorusVox

. I'm suspicious of the amount of buddying/alliance building he seemed to be doing.

You are buddies with lemon. Why do you feel the need to say exactly what lemon has said twice?
@MoI spoof account:Tell me who has just posted so I can run it through my patented shotty bullshit filter^TM

@ML

– why do you think my Daykill on Foxace was a reaction test? He fence-sat way too passively for my tastes and I run on a gut basis for scum-hunting unlike my partner.

And why would you ignore Norman? Is it your belief that trolls can’t be scum?

Because I find it unlikely someone would kill this early in the day. Also, Seacore was online browsing this forum, and nothing was posted, so...

Also, I'll happily vote Norman. It's just hard for me to get a read on trolls. To clarify, I meant I would stop replying to his stupidity.

PEdit: Early information? And if you're replaced, and you're town, we can get a more pro-town player.

Unvote, Vote: Norman

I'm fine with this right now.

...
...

SO you can't get a read on him and you defend him and you still vote for him.
...
...

Spoiler: the most fucking hilarious string of posts in game ever

I haven't seen any potential partners for Norman as of this point. Therefore, my vote is staying on ML.

PEdit: People should stop posting

I'm neither what you said Foxace.

I'm really a nobody in this game. I'm the person that says alot of things in a certain room, as if I was talking about someone to someone, ranting about but then when you go in there, opening that door to the room, you don't see the person I'm talking to, and you don't see me. You see only the shadow of a body but you don't see a real person. I am the embodiment of obscurity.

That's what I am, and I will reman so.


As for Lemons, I don't think you know what I'm doing. But I'm not going to reveal even so if you and some of your delightful acquaintances lynch me. And even if you do, you're losing another number crucial to your manpower.

So what the above post indicates is -

Norman is going to be useless for scum-hunting purposes and isn't even an amusing troll.

He needs more votes stat!

If he's not replaced by D2, I'll vote him.

I'm neither what you said Foxace.

I'm just here to confuse the fuck out of you and everyone else. I don't actually plan on offering anything of stubstance. I just want to have the pleasure in pissing all of you off.

That's what i got from that.

If that's how you're going to play, I just want you lynched period. Scum or not, a player like you has no place in this game

My vote stands.

Magua I'm definitive you are a scumbag. In fact I'm really seeing that you are one. Such a waste that you have to live.

But sometimes a man must sacrifice himself for his own beliefs if necessary. And if so, I'm willing to do that to make people see the truth of things.

And I'm not going to be replaced. No matter no how.

And no one answered if their original roles are the same roles on this game. I'd like to know what that the answer is to that.

And I am trying to scumhunt, in fact I'm really trying hard. You people aren't just realizing it.

That was quite funny, Fox.

That was quite funny, Fox.

No that wasn't funny at all. Understand, everyone, if you want to take me seriously, or are trying to, please think profoundly to what I am doing. I'm not being a complete waste of time. So please, stop trolling me. It's the way of how I play things. Kondi you know exactly what I'm doing and I think you only want me out because you either hate me or you're a scumbag. Everyone who has played with me, KNOWS, exactly what I'm doing.

That was quite funny, Fox.

No that wasn't funny at all. Understand, everyone, if you want to take me seriously, or are trying to, please think profoundly to what I am doing. I'm not being a complete waste of time. So please, stop trolling me. It's the way of how I play things. Kondi you know exactly what I'm doing and I think you only want me out because you either hate me or you're a scumbag. Everyone who has played with me, KNOWS, exactly what I'm doing.

I'm TRYING to take you seriously. Why do you think I took the time to answer every single one of your godawful questions? I honestly don't see the reasoning behind any of it.

Kondi, if you were to look at my posts before in my games, yes, you would know. It's a shame you really don't know what I'm doing and plan to replace me.

And Foxace, there is reason behind everything. In fact a number of reasons. Every witness I've talked to in this game, and in every other game I've written down notes of personality and current reactions. I've asked serious quesions and I've asked rather odd questions. I've even placed Paint pictures for lots of reasons. Sometimes I do different things, sometimes I do the same things in different games or games that look like scenarios from older games.

Sometimes you even have to be illogical to get the information you want.

I'm neither what you said Foxace.

I'm just here to confuse the fuck out of you and everyone else. I don't actually plan on offering anything of stubstance. I just want to have the pleasure in pissing all of you off.

That's what i got from that.

If that's how you're going to play, I just want you lynched period. Scum or not, a player like you has no place in this game

My vote stands.

Meh...not a fan of policy lynches based on play style hate or comments like this. Sure policy lynches can be useful, I suppose. I prefer looking for scum.

100% agree. Listen to this guy people.

I wouldn't be surprised if all the scum were lurking, watching us tear the town apart.

I bet all the scum are active and posting content less posts like the one I just quoted.

@Norman, I can usually make 3 posts a day. Two short, on like this. Some days I can do more, some days I can do less. This is dependent on my work load and the daily tv/cricet/sport schedules.

How do I know you might be lying about your working schedule...

[Norman]

Moneybags... You're Moneybags?

[Norman]

This is a hydra account of Moneybags and Mcqueen. Mcqueen hasn't gotten back from whatever it is he does on his weekends yet; so yes, this is Moneybags.

/Moneybags
(^Note the post signature)

Moneybags! Ahahahahahaha. What a great day to see you here. I was worried I wasn't going to see anyone familiar in this game.

I sincerely hope though, you aren't one of those scumbags.

[Norman]

So we're live, there are already more new posts than there were before the crash, and we've shot straight past RVS. Things are looking up.

I had one suspect from the original thread I can still remember, and that was xvart, now replaced by Foxace36. My reason for suspecting xvart was his scum read on CooLDoG, which I find questionable. I can agree with the part that scum would be just as confused as the town about whether to mass claim, and they could prefer to let the town sort it out for them. What I don't agree with is that scum would be any more likely to be confused about the setup, and make baseless and erroneous speculation posts about it. On the contrary, I think that is what makes CooLDoG town, particularly since Seacore's clarification post revealed that there was significant confusion within the playerlist.

Now, Foxace36 has made it easy for me to keep my scum read on the slot. Reading his posts has reminded me of my own first game on the site and the excuses I made for my reluctance to vote. I was not lying then, but that did not stop me from being scum in that game. The reaction test does nothing for me.

VOTE: Foxace36

Other players on my suspect list include Typo Incarnate, whose behavior so far seems erratic. I did not think that their suggestion in the original thread that the people caring about alignments were scum was useful, and calling for votes on Norman while acknowledging his trolling for what it is is just pointless. I'm not sure what I expected from that hydra, but not this.

About Norman, I have no read on him and I have never played with him, but his reputation precedes him. His playstyle can be called unconventional, and people should consider that before labeling him as scummy.

There is also ManiacalLemon, whose statement that the benefits of alignment claiming outweigh the risk was just bizarre, when he had only mentioned downsides in the same post.

So you are voting for me based on....

1. The person I replaced sounded scummy.

2. Apparently there is a correlation between my reluctancy to vote at first (Which I had good resoning for) and you reluctancy to vote as scum in a completely different game.




Can't argue with those points. They seem pretty dam solid to me. /sarcasm

That's why I asked if you EVER sounded like this at ANY game, EVERYTIME, Foxace. Your alignment remains doubtful and I think I should take some more observation of your actions. As for Feysal, why do you think Foxaxe is scum?

He told me earlier that he usually acted trollish during conversations like these. What is your safe-trigger to which Mr. Foxace is a scumbag?

[Norman]

As for Feysal, why do you think Foxace* is scum?

[Norman]

@norman, read better, I said work load. I can post thought the day but it depends on my work load. Meaning that if I need do actually do something I will not post as much.

Maybe that's why I stop and think to myself each time... Which would explain why I'm typing alot of typoes.

In any event, Feysal, tell me your answer.

[Norman]

So we're live, there are already more new posts than there were before the crash, and we've shot straight past RVS. Things are looking up.

I had one suspect from the original thread I can still remember, and that was xvart, now replaced by Foxace36. My reason for suspecting xvart was his scum read on CooLDoG, which I find questionable. I can agree with the part that scum would be just as confused as the town about whether to mass claim, and they could prefer to let the town sort it out for them. What I don't agree with is that scum would be any more likely to be confused about the setup, and make baseless and erroneous speculation posts about it. On the contrary, I think that is what makes CooLDoG town, particularly since Seacore's clarification post revealed that there was significant confusion within the playerlist.

Now, Foxace36 has made it easy for me to keep my scum read on the slot. Reading his posts has reminded me of my own first game on the site and the excuses I made for my reluctance to vote. I was not lying then, but that did not stop me from being scum in that game. The reaction test does nothing for me.

VOTE: Foxace36

Other players on my suspect list include Typo Incarnate, whose behavior so far seems erratic. I did not think that their suggestion in the original thread that the people caring about alignments were scum was useful, and calling for votes on Norman while acknowledging his trolling for what it is is just pointless. I'm not sure what I expected from that hydra, but not this.

About Norman, I have no read on him and I have never played with him, but his reputation precedes him. His playstyle can be called unconventional, and people should consider that before labeling him as scummy.

There is also ManiacalLemon, whose statement that the benefits of alignment claiming outweigh the risk was just bizarre, when he had only mentioned downsides in the same post.

So you are voting for me based on....

1. The person I replaced sounded scummy.

2. Apparently there is a correlation between my reluctancy to vote at first (Which I had good resoning for) and you reluctancy to vote as scum in a completely different game.




Can't argue with those points. They seem pretty dam solid to me. /sarcasm

That's why I asked if you EVER sounded like this at ANY game, EVERYTIME, Foxace. Your alignment remains doubtful and I think I should take some more observation of your actions. As for Feysal, why do you think Foxaxe is scum?

He told me earlier that he usually acted trollish during conversations like these. What is your safe-trigger to which Mr. Foxace is a scumbag?

UNVOTE:



The very fact that one of your questions have actually shown some relevance has changed my mind about wanting a policy lynch, though you are still on my FoS.

As a right of paranoia, I'm putting you on mine because you seem to be agitated by Feysal's introspections.

[Norman]

...what the FUCK?

What is there to "wtf" about, Kondi? Even though his words are in color.

[Norman]

Hi.

Can you we stop with the quote walls that are > 50 lines long with maybe, if I'm lucky, five lines added onto the end?

That'd be great.

Why postpone it, if you think that it will be useful?

Because town has a propensity to want stupid things as well, so we're not lynching someone based on whether they did or did not want the alignment claim.

Oh please, we don't want stupid things. That doesn't even make sense.

[Norman]

A kill a day keeps the host away. Lol...

[Norman]

Immodesty admit of no defense,
For want of modesty is want of sense?

But if immodest words admit but this defense,
That want of modesty is want of sense?

[Norman]

Immodesty admit of no defense,
For want of modesty is want of sense?

But if immodest words admit but this defense,
That want of modesty is want of sense?

Immodest words* admit of no defense, for want of modesty is want of sense.... Right...

Which means Mhork is actually a townie. Atleast I think.

Anyways... I'll be watching this thread intentively.

[Norman]

Well no one's here so I guess I can say this.



Thank Jesus I'm not the serial killer, I'd come for the bad guys first.

Also I suspect Lord Mhork might be the godfather... Even scratching out such a "joke" doesn't seem funny to me.

[Norman]

Oh might Norman, please forgive mine error.

Also... Who's supposed to be "P" in that comic?

Um... Some guy named Phil. Nothing important...

Yeah... Shouldn't have posted that... Thank god no one knows I actually killed someone and I was charged for 1st degree murder... You know what can we stop talking about this?

[Norman]

I love this! Oh, I really hope you're town, Norman! What did you think of kondi?

What did I think of kondi? First of all what do YOU think of kondi. Then I may converse afterwards after you stated your reasonings.

[Norman]

I haven't seen any potential partners for Norman as of this point. Therefore, my vote is staying on ML.

PEdit: People should stop posting

This is truly terrible; mainly because I can't understand what he means, but also because he doesn't explain why he's voting ManiacalLemon, nor why he finds you suspicious. And why does it matter if there are no obvious partners? It just makes no sense.

If he's not replaced by D2, I'll vote him.

This is just bad. You don't hope someone gets replaced by the next day and then decide to policy lynch them if they don't get replaced. It doesn't work that way. Plus, he's yet to say

in his own words

why he doesn't like you.

His 94 and 97 are just fluff; not worth quoting, in my opinion.

Norman, what happened to your FOS on greenknight?

What is this?! Substance? No, not really, but it's the best he's done so far. He does not, however, follow through with anything once you explain.

More fluff...

...what the FUCK?

You know what's awesome? When you're ignored... Oh wait, the other thing. He has time to post more fluff, but not time to, say,

answer my question

. That's really not cool, kondi.

So a majority of his posts are fluff, plus he's ignoring me. Good enough case for me, at least.

So, Norman, thoughts?

In my other game with kondi he tends to be discreet as possible. I do believe at the end he was mafia... Or village. Idk. I had forgotten. But looking at why he WANTS to replace me... It didn't make sense because if I were to be replaced, Seacore would've already replaced me because I was being a troll. But he knew, he knew what I was doing. Then he said something else about me to cover the fact about how I do things in mafia games.

Indeed, I think he might be a scumbag. And as for you... I don't know.

[Norman]

Intriguing...

I note that you are voting for ManiacalLemon. Why?

Because Lemon answered all my investigating checks and balances quite awkwardly. Therefore if he were to be town, a certain aspect of my questions would be answered differently.

[Norman]

Jesus, this game is moving quickly, sorry for my inactivity atm, but I should be able to comment more now:
From listening to Norman, he's either some sort of underappreciated genius or a stupid troll, however neither are particularly indicative of alignment but I'm tempted to keep him in just to see what he comes out with,

kondi

, if you've played with him before is there actually some kind of odd method here or is he just (the more likely option) an idiot?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3921198: Don't like Pines a) attempt at buddying and b) jumping on the Norman bandwagon here.
Also on my potential scum list is Empking, hasn't posted much apart from changing his vote 3 times and didn't give much reasoning for any of those.
MaguaofIllusion seems fairly town atm, along with Tammy.
Foxace seems like slightly newb town, his reaction to the fake daykill seemed fairly genuine, although I still don't like his 'Pine is inactive' argument which he never explained

@Foxace

was Pine being particularly inactive?

First of all idk if you noticed but, there's like 3 people with similar names. Magua, MaguaOfIllusion, and MagnaOfIllusion. The one who called me a troll though, he's probably a scumbag. Also my investigations lead Lemons being somewhat a scumbag. I think atleast one person on my FoS list is a scumbag.

I'm also about to add Shadow to it because he isn't answering that guy's question...

If it doesn't go well... Plan B...

[Norman]

No wait, scratch out Magua, he isn't in the game... I wonder why there's people with those names but maybe I'll never know because I drink now and then and names look the same.

[Norman]

Jesus, this game is moving quickly, sorry for my inactivity atm, but I should be able to comment more now:
From listening to Norman, he's either some sort of underappreciated genius or a stupid troll, however neither are particularly indicative of alignment but I'm tempted to keep him in just to see what he comes out with,

kondi

, if you've played with him before is there actually some kind of odd method here or is he just (the more likely option) an idiot?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3921198: Don't like Pines a) attempt at buddying and b) jumping on the Norman bandwagon here.
Also on my potential scum list is Empking, hasn't posted much apart from changing his vote 3 times and didn't give much reasoning for any of those.
MaguaofIllusion seems fairly town atm, along with Tammy.
Foxace seems like slightly newb town, his reaction to the fake daykill seemed fairly genuine, although I still don't like his 'Pine is inactive' argument which he never explained

@Foxace

was Pine being particularly inactive?

I'm confused, what exactly are you asking me? lol

Also, why is it in every game I play people get a "Newb" read on me? >.<

Sorry, rephrase: Why did you feel Pine was lurking?

I never stated that he was lurking. Just that he hasn't been online to follow up on his questioning (I'm not sure if it's intentional or not so I wouldn't necessarily call it lurking.)

Starfox, what's your opinion on Lemons? I think I didn't hear you the first time.

[Norman]

I'm having a hard time getting a read on him. From what I can tell though.....


- Accuses Norman of trolling et a lot of his posts don't seem somewhat serious and he is joking around in half of them.
- Jokes about scum lurking and watching town tear eachother apart. That doesn't sit well with me.


Hmmmm, I honestly cannot say anything about lemons. I need to see more content from him before I can give a valid read.

You realize Empking was watching the thread in and out when almost no one was around. Today, yesterday, and before that yesterday.

[Norman]

I'm having a hard time getting a read on him. From what I can tell though.....


- Accuses Norman of trolling et a lot of his posts don't seem somewhat serious and he is joking around in half of them.
- Jokes about scum lurking and watching town tear eachother apart. That doesn't sit well with me.


Hmmmm, I honestly cannot say anything about lemons. I need to see more content from him before I can give a valid read.

You realize Empking was watching the thread in and out when almost no one was around. Today, yesterday, and before that yesterday.

I'm not following....

Foxace, don't bullshit me, where were you when Empking was around.

[Norman]

Shutup and answer the question.

[Norman]

...................


I don't know? I was on pretty much all day though if that's what your trying to ask.

On mafiascum.net?

[Norman]

Yea, I had a tab of this game pulled up the entire day except at night when I stated that I had to go.

So let me ask you, did you see Empking watching the thread during that time.

[Norman]

I didn't take tabs of people watching the thread. Pine was the only person I occasionally checked for as he was the person I was waiting to question.

Bullshit, you knew damn well Empking was watching the thread!

[Norman]

evermind ... I see you have it turned on ...Empking - Do you deny reading the thread but not posting as accused by Norman?

Stay out of it!

If he says no, he's a scumbag. If he says yes he's NOT one.

But I'd like to see what fishy has to say!

[Norman]

Empking disappeared... Again...

Unvote: Lemons
Vote: Empking

[Norman]

I'd like to know too! In fact, I'd like to know why a silent group of people are shifting in and out of the thread!

[Norman]

Pine disappeared as well... Foxace, don't think I might be crazy but I think the scumbags are denying their presence and they want us to kill each other.

[Norman]

Pine disappeared as well... Foxace, don't think I might be crazy but I think the scumbags are denying their presence and they want us to kill each other.

I love this guy.

Where were you the other day? Did you see anyone shift about?

[Norman]

Jesus, this game is moving quickly, sorry for my inactivity atm, but I should be able to comment more now:
From listening to Norman, he's either some sort of underappreciated genius or a stupid troll, however neither are particularly indicative of alignment but I'm tempted to keep him in just to see what he comes out with,

kondi

, if you've played with him before is there actually some kind of odd method here or is he just (the more likely option) an idiot?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3921198: Don't like Pines a) attempt at buddying and b) jumping on the Norman bandwagon here.
Also on my potential scum list is Empking, hasn't posted much apart from changing his vote 3 times and didn't give much reasoning for any of those.
MaguaofIllusion seems fairly town atm, along with Tammy.
Foxace seems like slightly newb town, his reaction to the fake daykill seemed fairly genuine, although I still don't like his 'Pine is inactive' argument which he never explained

@Foxace

was Pine being particularly inactive?

First of all idk if you noticed but, there's like 3 people with similar names. Magua, MaguaOfIllusion, and MagnaOfIllusion. The one who called me a troll though, he's probably a scumbag. Also my investigations lead Lemons being somewhat a scumbag. I think atleast one person on my FoS list is a scumbag.

I'm also about to add Shadow to it because he isn't answering that guy's question...

If it doesn't go well... Plan B...

Just for future reference, there are two Shadows in this game, and 'that guy' is fairly generic.

Shutup dirtbag. Where the hell were you the other day when people were shifting in and out of this thread?! And tell me. TELL ME.

AND EMPKING I SAW YOUR ASS ON THE GODDAMN THREAD! DON'T DENY IT!

[Norman]

Pine disappeared as well... Foxace, don't think I might be crazy but I think the scumbags are denying their presence and they want us to kill each other.

I love this guy.

Where were you the other day? Did you see anyone shift about?

Are you talking to me? If so, sorry but I barely went on this thread yesterday, had a massive cold and was also the 'chair' in a mishmash game.

Ok yeah, sure I believe you... But the other two have some things to explain... Hesitant talkers I'll tell you that...

And Empking, alot of things get taken into consideration. But you, you might be that scumbag I'm looking for.

[Norman]

I've been on every day since the restart. I have a post on page one of

both

days. What in the blue fuck are you talking about.

I'm watching you. And your group of filthy muckbags!

[Norman]

And Empking, alot of things get taken into consideration. But you, you might be that scumbag I'm looking for.

Pardon?

Oh don't give me that bullshit. I know MagnuaOfIllusion, you, Pine, and Shadow might be scumbags. Along with green knight, and Lemons!

[Norman]

ITT we learn that Norman's favorite word is 'might' and that just like in the original Scream - "EVERYONE IS A SUSPECT"

Shutup, everyone is not a suspect. You for certain are a suspect because you have been digressing my posts ever since goddamn Day 1!

[Norman]

Urge to follow policy lynch rising...

Yeah you do that. And while you're at it why don't you assassinate the vigilante!

[Norman]

Urge to follow policy lynch rising...

Yeah you do that. And while you're at it why don't you assassinate the vigilante!

I don't know Norman's meta, but is this par for the course?

Whatever. I know something about this though.

[Norman]

*Heads to Deathnotes Game (Other game Im in)*

*Glances at the players browsing*

*Sees Norman's name*



*Heads back here*





You must be really serious about these background checks....

Oh you know it. And I'll never reveal anything to you or anyone in any type of communication. It's top secret, and it'll remain that way until the clock ticks it's final hour.

[Norman]

You newbs do know that the 'players browsing' at the bottom shows all Players browsing Theme Park not the thread, right?

I hate to break up your amusing little train of thought with facts but figured it best to put you in the know.

Also - that feature can be turned off. Another strike to your brilliant plans darn it all!

But please continue ... I love comedy!

Ha, no it's not even comedy. It's actually stuff I've been doing for the first day. And I understand that, also hover down the pages, notice that everything I said was a coverup to the real thing.

So I hate to break it to you, but I know people can anonymously walk into a thread and not show their names.

[Norman]

VOTE: Foxace36

My #1 scum suspect based on a quick read of this thread.

More analysis later when I've had time for a proper read of both this thread and the archive of the old one.

So you vote for me without any proper reasoning to offer? Seems scummy.

Would you mind providing your reasoning for your vote on me?

That in itself looks scummy, Starfox.

Jack, please tell me: Did Fox's predecessor post alot? And if so, what did he talk about...

[Norman]

How is it scummy?


Is it not ok for me to ask the reasons as to why he wants to tie a noose around my head?

Ok well let me ask you Foxace. What did your predecessor talk about?

[Norman]

Haven't had a chance to read the original thread. I'm getting to a PC tonight so I can pull up the zip file and read through it.

You have a PC right there... Though... Why not do it there...

[Norman]

I'm on my phone right now....

Oh I'm sorry, I DON'T USE CELLPHONES.

[Norman]

Ok....

I got to go for now though. In the process of moving and have some things to pack. Will be back in a couple of hours.

Where's a link to the old thread? Can someone give me a link? That'd be appreciated.

[Norman]

In Post 3

I didn't see it there. Thankyou briz...

[Norman]

@ ManiacalLemon: Are you Mafia alot of the times?

@ Foxace: After when you put your computer back, tell me: Who do you think is buddies with Maniacal Lemon?

@ Kondi: The same question I asked Foxace.

[Norman]

Answer the question you slimebag.

[Norman]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ManiacaLemon
For unvoting during RVS.


:troll:

What was that? Oh I couldn't hear your lies.

[Norman]

That was during RVS......

Oh but votes do have a purpose, Mr. Foxace. A town must eliminate the scum as fast as possible? Yes. And the main way to do that is for townies to vote. A vote is a very reliable thing. And yet you say it was random voting sequence. Random or not, it was a vote.

So tell me who's buddies with Maniacal Lemon.

[Norman]

...okay, THAT was crap. VOTE: Norman@Norman: Not sure. I was basing my statement about you based on your actions.

Kondi answer my questions please.

[Norman]

I don't even know how to begin arguing with that......

Anyways, I haven't looked to closely into Lemon's posts yet. I dont have a read on him.

Maybe you aren't telling me because you're a scumbag and you want to hide the fact for your buddy?

[Norman]

I did, Norman. Did you read he post you quoted?

Let me look...

[Norman]

.......


You are acting as if I am going to agree with you on every point you make......

You asked me who I though lemon's buddies were when I never even stated that I thought he was scum. I don't understand the logic behind that.

Nevermind... Sorry everyone I'm just a bit paranoid...

[Norman]

Alright... Foxace isn't a scum. I'm sure of it. Empking... might be a scumbag...

However, kondi is voting me because he thinks I'm buddying with Lemons...

Which means, kondi... Is either a misinterpreted townie, or a scumbag trying to blend in... Because I think YOU'RE a scumbag! So to even this thing out, EAT THIS!

Vote: Kondi

Reason: Shifty emotions.

I know you're shifty, don't even get me started.

[Norman]

Or he could be a grey person, in this case, I feel no ill will with what I'm doing :/

[Norman]

Norman, I voted you because of this:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ManiacaLemon
For unvoting during RVS.


:troll:

What was that? Oh I couldn't hear your lies.

Ok well, you shouldn't just RVS people on the second game. I don't know... But I'm voting you because you, as in yourself, seem to be going in and out quickly like the others. I don't know if I know what I'm even doing. But hell it's worth a shot.

Let the revolver's barrel of justice roll... Let it roll... And when it shoots, I hope the gamble gets the better of good.
.

[Norman]

Yes, I HAVE 7 SUSPECTS NOW, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?! Yeah you are, you're not posting that much and you stray off a little bit.

[Norman]

Well, for one, I'm in twelve (about to be thirteen) games right now, and ten of them are in their day phase.

Everytime you say something senseless I become more and more insane and I start to hate you and anyone in this game.

[Norman]

@ ManiacalLemon: Are you Mafia alot of the times?

@ Foxace: After when you put your computer back, tell me: Who do you think is buddies with Maniacal Lemon?

@ Kondi: The same question I asked Foxace.

I've never been.

Sorry I was away, I had band related practice most of the day. Gah, Norman seems scummier and scummier the more I read. Will reread what I missed more in depth.

How the hell do I seem scumbaggish? You seem to start getting more and more scumbaggish the more I read your goddamn comments.

[Norman]

@ ManiacalLemon: Are you Mafia alot of the times?

@ Foxace: After when you put your computer back, tell me: Who do you think is buddies with Maniacal Lemon?

@ Kondi: The same question I asked Foxace.

I've never been.

Sorry I was away, I had band related practice most of the day. Gah, Norman seems scummier and scummier the more I read. Will reread what I missed more in depth.

How the hell do I seem scumbaggish? You seem to start getting more and more scumbaggish the more I read your goddamn comments.

I like how you just repeated what I said, but with an added factor of OMGUS. What posts of mine do you find scummy anyways?

Remember the music thing? Yeah that was one of the background investigations. Of how you listened to aggressive music when going on the computer, but you only said sometimes.

That gave me an idea you might be a scumbag. But then again, I might just be paranoid.

[Norman]

Norman, you have just contributed a literal four pages of noise. Stop.

AVox's buddying isn't the only reason that I'm voting him, and while it's true that suggesting an alliance isn't scummy, buddying can be. Someone disagreeing with you is not a scumtell. I do not think that someone who over reacts as town is unlikely to do it as scum, I don't agree with your meta argument that he's town at all. Finally, I disagree with your take on wagons for a couple of reasons, scum are reasonably likely to try to stay off of wagons early on day one and to avoid being accused of sheeping scum will also often try to avoid it.

The points about AVox I would honestly be more comfortable he refute himself, but what other reasons are you voting him for? The alliances and buddying is the only thing you've brought up. The points about Mhork I disagree, he's more reasonable when every little thing isn't surprising him.

Lemons: Besides your best chance at living through today who's scum?

Shadoweh, you have no power over me. It's not noise, it's scumhunting. So if you have any methods of getting scumbags faster, be my guest. But don't tell me to shutup.

[Norman]

Pine disappeared as well... Foxace, don't think I might be crazy but I think the scumbags are denying their presence and they want us to kill each other.

I love this guy.

Where were you the other day? Did you see anyone shift about?

This stops here guys. Looking for scum by just if the read the thread without posting or not is not 100% indicative of alignment. And we are NOT going to lynch off of who has their "show activity" on or off. Plus as furc/fate point out you can't tell if they are actually reading this thread. Some people are in multiple games. However, I do think that the specific critique of empking is valid because he was under suspicion at the time of his "only reading". And Having the theme park forum up and just looking at it doesn't seem to be "trying to get into the mood" I call bullshit.

Urge to follow policy lynch rising...

Yeah you do that. And while you're at it why don't you assassinate the vigilante!

WTF, vig claim?????????????

I don't even know how to begin arguing with that......

Anyways, I haven't looked to closely into Lemon's posts yet. I dont have a read on him.

Second time you have said this. Do it or don't.

Well, for one, I'm in twelve (about to be thirteen) games right now, and ten of them are in their day phase.

How you people do it, I will never know . However, this should not be an excuse for you not posting and answering questions. When you .in for a game I assume that you are going to play it to the best of your ability regardless of other on site matters.

@ ManiacalLemon: Are you Mafia alot of the times?

@ Foxace: After when you put your computer back, tell me: Who do you think is buddies with Maniacal Lemon?

@ Kondi: The same question I asked Foxace.

I've never been.

Sorry I was away, I had band related practice most of the day. Gah, Norman seems scummier and scummier the more I read. Will reread what I missed more in depth.

Elaborate.

Going forward norman will become a really easy lynch for both scum teams to push. Right now I see norman as one of the most pro-active players in the game who is trying to scum hunt. I might be a little biased towards favoring the VI because I was treated like that before (and to a certain extend still to this day), but norman does not have the characteristics of being scum. And nobody as brought a good case against him. Lemon seems to be the main pusher of this policy lynch happy mob.

@lemon:
1) why is norman scum
2) what maid norman more scummy between your posts (I'm talking about above quote)
3) does being a VI increase your chance of being scum?
4) Lynch scum or anti-town?

It wasn't a vig claim on myself. It was a vig claim towards the whole playerlist. And I think there is atleast one. And if the vigilante wishes to kill, I hope he kills Lemons, kondi, or any of the other 7 people I mentioned.

[Norman]

In post 309, Norman wrote:In post 308, ManiacalLemon wrote:In post 306, Norman wrote:In post 305, ManiacalLemon wrote:In post 279, Norman wrote:@ ManiacalLemon: Are you Mafia alot of the times?@ Foxace: After when you put your computer back, tell me: Who do you think is buddies with Maniacal Lemon?@ Kondi: The same question I asked Foxace.I've never been.Sorry I was away, I had band related practice most of the day. Gah, Norman seems scummier and scummier the more I read. Will reread what I missed more in depth.How the hell do I seem scumbaggish? You seem to start getting more and more scumbaggish the more I read your goddamn comments.I like how you just repeated what I said, but with an added factor of OMGUS. What posts of mine do you find scummy anyways?Remember the music thing? Yeah that was one of the background investigations. Of how you listened to aggressive music when going on the computer, but you only said sometimes. That gave me an idea you might be a scumbag. But then again, I might just be paranoid.You think I'm scum... based on my musical interests?I don't want to live on this planet anymore.In post 311, CooLDoG wrote:@lemon: 1) why is norman scum2) what maid norman more scummy between your posts (I'm talking about above quote)3) does being a VI increase your chance of being scum?4) Lynch scum or anti-town?1 & 2: When he started out, he seemed to be attempting to scumhunt, but now he's pretty much making reads up from those random questions. He also seems very flip-floppy, very prone to OMGUSing, and has seven fucking scumreads... on pretty much everyone who's found him scummy.3: Not really, but I have a scum read and a VI read.4: EitherIn post 313, Shadoweh wrote:Lemons: Besides your best chance at living through today who's scum?Cooldog, possibly Fox. MoS hasn't contributed much, and his only post was an RVS vote, way past RVS, and a response indicating he saw my feigned RVS, so he's possible scum, too.PEdit:In post 318, Mastermind of Sin wrote:I don't really feel like catching up. Someone tell me what's happened so far and who I should vote. Pretty content to sheep for now cuz fuck it.This is scummy as fuck. UNVOTE: VOTE: Mastermind of Sin

Ok, Lemons... Let me point something out to you. I don't do OMGUS, that's not my thing. Secondly, yes I think you might be a scumbag based on what music you listened to the last 3 or 2 days. Thirdly, I'm not flip-floppy, I can sometimes act crazy. And Fourthly, no I don't have reads on pretty much EVERYONE that votes me.

[Norman]

I will now commence a Norman.

Questions I have for Norman:
What is your favorite fruit?
What song are you listening to right now?
What is 2+2?
What is another name for the note Bb?
How many symphonies did Stravinsky write?
What is the capital of Mongolia?
Is the moon landing a hoax?
How many letters are in my name?
What is my avatar of?
What is your stance on gay marriage?
All of these questions may seem random, but they help me scumhunt. I won't tell you the results of my scumhunting, however, and I'll tunnel on you if I find one thing I deem scummy. If you don't answer, you're obviously mafia.

...Am I doing it right?

1. Favourite fruit is either a banana, orange or apple.
2. Song I'm listening to right now is: Welcome to St. James' Club
3. 4
4. I honestly don't know what you're typing on about.
5. Try another composer less Russian.
6. Try something in America.
7. No sir, the moonlanding was not a hoax. Why do you think we have Hubble Telescope?
8. I don't know you personally to know that.
9. Your avatar looks like Cthulu, or some other creature of that guy who makes strange but scary stories.
10. I don't care about gay marriage. If they want to be with each other, so be it.

And yes you're doing it exactly perfectly.

[Norman]

@Feysal

– If you’d like to point a single post by Norman where he’s authentically doing a single scrap of scum-hunting let me know. Also I’d like your answer on the point in the game where it is acceptable to suspect Norman .. .when does his shield of erratic playstyle expire?

Norman actually it was pure comedy … although I don’t think you intended it to be

So my other head thinks Norman is just a troll and VI and unlikely to be scum. So I’m going to humor him and just skip his posts until he gets put at L-1. At that point I’ll instantly move my vote to him claim or not. He is that toxic to the process of scum-hunting. And Post 295 screams “I can’t be alone in the vote lead so I’m just going to pull some Implosion-style bullshit and vote kondi the nearest altenate wagon”.

Who has yet to post since the thread re-opened? AurorusVox, Trekker, Skenvoy, Haze

I’ll need to check up on their site activity …

So Shadoweh:

Please point to the post which triggered your Town read on Lord M. Have you ever played with him as scum? I have to say my personal experience with him as Town was not the same as yours.

Also I find it fascinating you are trying to push a “ML is lurking” stance given he has the 4th most posts in the game post-crash and more than double your personal posts. It’s like you think people will not actually fact-check.

Ok first of all, Mr. whatever your name is. I am never giving you jack-shit information of what I think if you continue to act like I'm some goddamn rookie. That's what the British thought of Sergeat York in WW1 when he captured like billions of German soldiers singlehandedly. One lieutenant was like, "My god, you must be British!" But then York's like, "Nope, American." Never judge someone by their looks, FaguaOfDesolution.

Secondly, I'm only voting Kondi in response to him voting me because he thinks I'm a scumbag. Well in retaliation I'm voting him because he voted for me. Simple as that. I have no solid evidence currently to accuse him of. I really don't have any solid accusations of anyone. I'm just going by background investigations, gamblings, and reactions.

[Norman]

screw off, shithydra. norman's cool.

Yes I am trekker. Yes I am. And so are you.

And about the comics... I have to get evidence to exploit propagadist cartoons. So when that happens the RCS will probably emerge.

[Norman]

So tempted to vote Norman for being wishy-washy (in answering question #1). =P

What can I say, I'm a connossieur of food. A cartoonish omnivore would know such a man's craving, hmm?

[Norman]

Spoiler: Catchup Pages 5-Current

This is a mafiascum.net game, stop questioning my accusation techniques. And just for that I

think

you

might

a scumbag.

*My bold

Weasle-worded wishy-washy do nothing comment detected.

What about Feysal's argument swayed you? In my last post before the crash, I noted that you were rather overbearing in the way you backed up your argument and countered arguments about it. You seemed completely certain your way was the right way. What changed your mind.

The fact that I was completely wrong about cross-kills. I thought my plan would help them cross-kill each other, but it turns out that if they lie (which they have MASSIVE incentive to do) it actually GUARANTEES they can't cross-kill. So it went from an awesome idea to an absolutely TERRIBLE idea, thanks to Feysal's properly exposing the flaw.

Also, what about Rang Tangler screamed scum at you? You originally placed your real vote on him after he claimed to not have the intellectual capacity to contribute to the conversation, then offered up some possible roles based on alignment, and then claimed ambivalence on the argument but was intrigued.

How is this a scum tell?

Rang started off like this "I can't really contribute to this conversation, I'm not smart enough". Then later Rang makes a post about being "intrigued". Someone who is "intrigued" by the conversation, but wants to stay out of it and not engage in the discussion is someone who has something to hide and is afraid of giving something away by taking a stance. It looks like Rang is waiting to see how it shakes out before taking a stance. Which means trying to blend with town. Which means scum.

Also, if Rang is "intrigued" by it, Rang would have to have the intellectual capacity to understand it. And if Rang had that, then the earlier statement was a flat out lie.

So 2 fantastic reasons to suspect Rang as scum.

As for Tammy's introspection on LMP, I'd like to hear to what he has to say to after all this time of bickering and social war.

We need to rope this guy. If I didn't want Rang/kondi dead more, I'd be on this wagon.

Alright, then, LM. Who have you seen that is a potential partner?

It's 5 pages in, not everyone has seemed to have checked in yet, and we haven't found one confirmed scum. Can you explain to me the benefit or purpose of looking for partners right now?

QFT. Although it's not technically 5 pages, this point is still valid.

Feysal's 129 is good posting.
As is Zdenek's 140.

Shadoweh – so in regards to your second and third points –

2. Why exactly are you so strongly defending Mhork when he doesn’t have any significant votes ATM?
3. Your point here sounded better when ML made it at Post 126. Why are you parroting the person you look to be softly inferring is scum?

I also think your “I’m only going to pay attention to my target and give as little content as possible" stance sucks bilge-water and is totes scummy.

For ISO purposes ...

QFT.

Foxace's reaction super-defensive knee-jerk reaction to Jackal's vote on page 11 seemse scummy to me.

Alright... Foxace isn't a scum. I'm sure of it. Empking... might be a scumbag...

However, kondi is voting me because he thinks I'm buddying with Lemons...

Which means, kondi... Is either a misinterpreted townie, or a scumbag trying to blend in... Because I think YOU'RE a scumbag! So to even this thing out, EAT THIS!

Vote: Kondi

Reason: Shifty emotions.

I know you're shifty, don't even get me started.

This vote comes immediately following the vote count where Norman is the largest wagon, but kondi is just one vote behind.

As much as I love kondi votes, this vote STINKS LIKE SHIT.[/spoiler]

TOWN

Tammy
Feysal
MaguaofIllusion
Zdenek
Pine
Empking
Jackal711
greenknight
Y u no scum
Lord Mhork
ManiacalLemon
brizingre1
PeregrineV
CooLDoG
trekker
Skenvoy
Shadoweh
Mastermind of Sin
Guy_Named_Riggs
Haze
AurorusVox
Shadow1psc
Foxace36
kondi2424
Norman

SCUM

As always, this early in a game the poles are more accurate than the middle.

Unvote
Vote: Norman

We can come back to kondi tomorrow. Norman's last vote is cause for some death.[/quote]

Sir, do you obviously know what you're doing? Tell me this... Why do you decide to vote me afterwards when a quarter of the people in this game have found me innocent? Even more then that, why would you put some of my last 8-9 suspects on top? This makes me think you're probably a scumbag. And I will not allow such a fallacy to be taken place.

Therefore I'm now not voting you, but I'm voting the people at the top of the list that you have.
Actually I'm going to make it a tie.

Vote: Pine
Reason: The way this guy orders his suspects is goddamn suspicious. I mean I know there's probably like one scumbag down at that last near me but there could be one on top.

Even so I think our boy here is wanting a quick lynch for no apparent reason. But wait, do we have reason to interpret such a desicion? Nope. He's just going by what he thinks is right. But then again it could be a messup for town and he could be a scumbag. But meh.

[Norman]

Sir, do you obviously know what you're doing? Tell me this... Why do you decide to vote me afterwards when a quarter of the people in this game have found me innocent? Even more then that, why would you put some of my last 8-9 suspects on top? This makes me think you're probably a scumbag. And I will not allow such a fallacy to be taken place.

Therefore I'm now not voting you, but I'm voting the people at the top of the list that you have.
Actually I'm going to make it a tie.

Vote: Pine
Reason: The way this guy orders his suspects is goddamn suspicious. I mean I know there's probably like one scumbag down at that last near me but there could be one on top.

Even so I think our boy here is wanting a quick lynch for no apparent reason. But wait, do we have reason to interpret such a desicion? Nope. He's just going by what he thinks is right. But then again it could be a messup for town and he could be a scumbag. But meh.


And I don't know why that first post got all weird like that.

[Norman]

Let me bold it so I can make it official:

Vote: Pine.

Alright sorry about that triple post.

[Norman]

Ok fine, lynch me. It's not like I didn't try to help. When the scumbags kill you, it's not going to be MY fault, only yours. In fact I wouldn't doubt you're a scumbag as well LMP by saying how much shit you just wrote there.

In fact, while you're at it, maybe I should say I'm a scumbag! Yeah lynch me. You know you want to. You know you ALL want to. Do it, yeah, just lynch me. CMON EVERYONE, LYNCH ME!

LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME LYNCH ME!!!

Come and get some!

[Norman]

ITT Norman tries to elevate "Too Scummy to Be Scum" to a higher art!

What's the matter? Hesitant to lynch? Ok, I'll say it again.

LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME!

[Norman]

Is that all? This must be a goddamn room of scum-sucking fruitbaskets! CMON, LYNCH ME! DO IT!

YOU'RE ALL JUST LAME VOTERS, THAT'S WHAT IT IS! I'VE SEEN BETTER! COME AND LYNCH ME!

[Norman]

I would say he should at least claim first, but something that tells me that would just make this a more confusing endeavor.

He's claimed two different roles already, I think we can safely leave it at that

and

@trekker

care to explain why?

I'm starting to think you're one of the scumbags, briz. And trekker doesn't have to explain, no one really has any evidence on the 1st day except reads.

[Norman]

Cmon Shadow1, I know you want to lynch me.

You wanted to do it ever since Day 1! C'MON, LYNCH ME!

LYNCH ME YOU GODDAMN PANSY!

[Norman]

Secondly, I'm only voting Kondi in response to him voting me because he thinks I'm a scumbag. Well in retaliation I'm voting him because he voted for me. Simple as that. I have no solid evidence currently to accuse him of. I really don't have any solid accusations of anyone. I'm just going by background investigations, gamblings, and reactions.

That's exactly what an OMGUS is, and you completely denied OMGUSing earlier...

Ok, Lemons... Let me point something out to you. I don't do OMGUS, that's not my thing. Secondly, yes I think you might be a scumbag based on what music you listened to the last 3 or 2 days. Thirdly, I'm not flip-floppy, I can sometimes act crazy. And Fourthly, no I don't have reads on pretty much EVERYONE that votes me.

No that's not OMGUS, OMGUS would be, "I HATE YOU, I'M VOTING YOU BECAUSE YOU SUCK!" No, you see, what I'm doing in this situation is, I'm nicely saying, "Look, you're voting me, so I vote you." That has no correlation with OMGUS and I deny everything of what you say about me.

Also, since almost everyone in this game hates me, COME AND LYNCH ME YOU PISSBAGS!

[Norman]

No that's not OMGUS, OMGUS would be, "I HATE YOU, I'M VOTING YOU BECAUSE YOU SUCK!" No, you see, what I'm doing in this situation is, I'm nicely saying, "Look, you're voting me, so I vote you." That has no correlation with OMGUS and I deny everything of what you say about me.

Insert face-palm pic here ...

I'm not OMGUSing, I'm nicely suspecting everyone who suspects me.

Moron.

Sorry other head ... I can't not vote for him at this stage.

VOTE: Norman

Easy for you to fucking say. Scumbag.

VOTE: Pine


I've made up my mind. You just get scummier and scummier.

Well aren't you scummy. Pine is scummy but nowhere near the level that Norman is. How in any way is Norman less scummy then Pine? Pine is guilty is buddying while Norman is guilty of... lets just say a lot of things.

Shutup, Foxace is doing the right choice.

And briz, I am confident you might be a scumbag. I'm not that sure of it, but you read it to be. You say Pine is buddying, yet you don't say who he's buddying with. And also I think he's buddying with MoI or probably... Impromptu... And also I'm not guilty of anything (atleast not in this game).

So, I'm going to continue to let everyone make up their minds while I say, LYNCH ME! And why? Because I'm the scapegoat of your plans.

And Foxace, it may appear like that, but you'll see why I'm actually scumhunting.

[Norman]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Norman
Obvious

Ahahahahahah. Oh ML, it's great that you see me as the bad guy. But you know do what you want.

[Norman]

Anymore votes? I'd actually like some more. Hmmm?

Anymore votes?

I'd gladly like other votes.

[Norman]

Vote: Pine
Reason: The way this guy orders his suspects is goddamn suspicious. I mean I know there's probably like one scumbag down at that last near me but there could be one on top.

Are you drunk or just confused?

I haven't even finished catching up (blame midterms), much less put my suspects in any kind of order. This is pure OMGUS masquerading as reasoning.

Correction: No I'm neither of those, I'm madly insane. And no, that's not OMGUSing. I don't think kondi sucks for lynching me. There's a difference now.

[Norman]

It wasn't a vig claim on myself. It was a vig claim towards the whole playerlist. And I think there is atleast one. And if the vigilante wishes to kill, I hope he kills Lemons, kondi, or any of the other 7 people I mentioned.

How do we know that there is a vig? Why are we even speculating about it?

And look who pops up 5 whopping minutes after I point out he's possibly avoiding the thread?

Scumtastic!

This. Also, this is going to get really confusing really quickly with you and the hydra, just saying .

Now I'm really confused:

Cooldog - Ignorance is town, and there's no way scum would be so ignorant of who made up this hydra (that is,

hitogoroshi

and myself) as to confuse us with drmyshottyizsik and DGB.

contrast with
[quote="hydra's sig]A hydra of

Fate

and

Furcolow

.

VOTE: CooLDoG
his actions have been clearly scum motivated all game. he's also a chronic lurker.

chronic lurker.... who else is a chronic lurker? Also, why are my posts scum motivated? I fail to see a warrant for such a claim.

Vote: Pine

I believe in the power of Team Mo_!

Justification for your vote?

Secondly, I'm only voting Kondi in response to him voting me because he thinks I'm a scumbag. Well in retaliation I'm voting him because he voted for me. Simple as that. I have no solid evidence currently to accuse him of. I really don't have any solid accusations of anyone. I'm just going by background investigations, gamblings, and reactions.

How can you square the above with you saying that you don't omgus?

Shadoweh is mafia

This might be a good justification in another universe... but not here. Why is shadoweh scum?

So trekker is a Epic Mafia troll VI who will also be ignored like Norman. They can go make finger-paints in the corner as far as I’m concerned. I’ll also insta-vote trekker if he gets to L-1. Fair warning is fair.

agree. 100% agree.

lol wtf was totally gonna vote pine too until 338. If I voted him it wouldn't really work for me now would it...

I'll stick to my second best choice

VOTE: Tammy

Are you scum? >_>

nah, you are.

dszf,jsfmdioldsjrwoefsid439-u09048
^My fists pounding into the keyboard. Justify your votes and scum suspects or replace out.

Dayvig: Shadoweh

unvote, vote: trekker

this MaguaOfIllusion guy is scum with Shadoweh.

Not justifying votes hurts the towns scum hunting ability. Also, your appearance right when called out is scummy.

~ninjas.... sorry if some of the stuff I ask has allready been answered.
@norman, isn't your style of omgus essentially the same sort of stupid voting with little qualifications as what you say omgus is?[/quote]

No Cooldog, voting in itself isn't stupid. No matter how nice the person looks or how innocent he looks, he could still be a scumbag. It doesn't matter what quality it has, because it's still really a random vote.

Yes, my case against Cooldog was elaborated on. Mostly his questions page 1 and 2 which seemed like misdirection, about town sizes, and then the general lack of participation re: people voting him/lobbying suspicion at him.

Hey scumbag! HEY YOU! THE SUPER MARIO GAMES SUCK! YOU KNOW HOW MANY SUPER MARIO GAMES I THREW AWAY!? ALOT!

YOU'RE JUST A SMEAR IN THIS GAME, YOU SLIMY GUT-SUCKING, INTESTINAL PARASITE! LYNCH ME!!!! LYNCH ME, LYNCH ME!!!!

[Norman]

voting for someone for only voting for them is in fact really fucking stupid.

Not on the First Day, buddy.

[Norman]

Norman (7) - Pine, Empking, kondi2424, LynchMePls, brizingre1, MaguaofIllusion, ManiacalLemon

Halfway home folks!

Shutup scumbag. In fact it should be you being lynched.

But whatever. Now I just wait...

[Norman]

uhhh, so I can justify any stupid vote by saying its the first day? tempted to vote but don't want to because he might be just really stupid town urrg.

Lol no, that's not stupid at all. And tell me, why am I stupid for voting for anyone I want to vote?

And kondi, yes Haze is in this game.

[Norman]

ITT Norman is going to soft-claim and backtrack on every possible role in the hopes of outing Town Powerroles!!!

Good Times!

Can we have lynch time now please?

Shutup you pathetic scumbag. I know you want to lynch me because I'm such a great fucking target. Just shutup and die.

[Norman]

Foxace, if you can hear me, what are your reads on everyone? I'll gladly vote with you if I survive this. (Which I won't, I don't think anyone realize I'm something other then a scumbag in this game).

[Norman]

I'll have my reads posted up either tomorrow or tonight. I lack the motivation to build any kind of wall right now.

Also, your attempt at buddying up with me. Noted.

Foxace, I know you're probably town, and you know I'm probably town. I realize you're skeptic about it, I can understand why. If you aren't town, I wouldn't care less.

[Norman]

ITT Norman is going to soft-claim and backtrack on every possible role in the hopes of outing Town Powerroles!!!

Good Times!

Can we have lynch time now please?

Shutup you pathetic scumbag. I know you want to lynch me because I'm such a great fucking target. Just shutup and die.

Norman, you're making it really hard for me not to just jump on your wagon for the sake of my own sanity.

Tammy, let me ask you something. What do you think of MoI?

[Norman]

ITT Norman is going to soft-claim and backtrack on every possible role in the hopes of outing Town Powerroles!!!

Good Times!

Can we have lynch time now please?

yes.
Norman, I'm going to vote you because it is day 1.

vote:norman

and because I want to.
@green, read better. Like seriously, make sure that what you are saying is true before you post it.
@lord mhork, read his sig please.

Ok, might as well vote myself in as well.

And Lemons, don't follow what they're doing. If you think I'm a scumbag so be it. But if you really don't have any legitimate reasons why, don't even bother voting for me.

I'm getting bored over this anyways so let's just get everyone to lynch me.

Vote: Myself
Reason: Everyone surprisingly hates me.

[Norman]

CooLDoG, that seems scummy.
"Because it is day 1... and because I want to"

sorry that you didn't catch the fact that I was sarcastically voting using his reasons for omgusing half the player list. Need to learn sarcasm tags

I wasn't OMGUSing half the player list... I put them on my FoS list though. Sure some voted for me, and I put them on there but there was others as well who didn't vote for me. And you really can't see through their alignment unless doing something...

I hate how you and the other players call it OMGUS. Because quite frankly I don't think so.

[Norman]

Here's my updated FoS list as well: Tammy, Magua Of llusion, Pine, Empking, green knight, briz, Shadow1psc, and kondi.

Along with my mights: MoS, Cooldog, Shadoweh, Feysal, anyone else who seemed like "meh."

And here's my townlist: Riggs, Zdenek, Moneybags, Mhork, trekker, Foxace, and me.

Then there's another grey section of my FoS list. (mights), which is everyone else.

[Norman]

Just wanted to point that out, also here's this:

[Norman]

This is driving me insane.

@CooLDoG:
Go here.
Look at posts 33 and 36. Do you see a Magua here? No, you don't.
Now look here and here.
Note how MagnaofIllusion isn't on the list either.
The signature is a joke, just like the last one which proclaimed it to be a hydra of shotty and DGB.
Understand?

Oh man, you don't know how insane I was when I went camping for fucking 10 days with only water and little supplies... It was horrible and I whined. Also if you're tired and hiking only eat the mushrooms that are purely white because I ate one before and I didn't get diarrhea. I had to take the chances...

Nope on the other post too, I'm admitting that I'm tired of this shit, and I want them to just lynch me because I already got what I wanted. And that's my FoS list.

[Norman]

My FoS list... And the other something which I won't post because it'll ruin my plans and the mafia won't execute what I foreshadow it would be. So I can't tell that other something until the mafia do this somthing so I can tell everyone my plans afterwords publicly.

@Cooldog, I already went on the wiki, and I already knew what it meant. Also the townlist I made isn't all people that didn't vote for me. I was about to include Lemons and you but I didn't because you both seem to be scumbags.

[Norman]

Also you forget Foxace voted for me that one time. So that contradicts your statement of everyone on my townlist hasn't voted for me.

[Norman]

VOTE: Pine

That's the spirit Trekker!

[Norman]

Although I'm starting to have second thoughts about Mhork now.

[Norman]

ITT Norman is going to soft-claim and backtrack on every possible role in the hopes of outing Town Powerroles!!!

Good Times!

Can we have lynch time now please?

Shutup you pathetic scumbag. I know you want to lynch me because I'm such a great fucking target. Just shutup and die.

Norman, you're making it really hard for me not to just jump on your wagon for the sake of my own sanity.

Tammy, let me ask you something. What do you think of MoI?

I've never played in a game with a hydra before, so this is a rather new experience for me. It's hard to get a read. Every time I think I have a fairly decent town read on him (them), the head changes and it's a bit jaring. Anyway, I wouldn't vote for them if that's what you're asking.

Each head has to agree on something. So I'll wait till the other head of MoI responds and maybe he/she might be able to convince it's meaner head which I dislike... Alot... Although I doubt it even has an opinion.

[Norman]

I can totally grasp why people find Norman scummy, but on the other hand I am not reading him as scum, and his lynch is one that I don't see myself supporting, unless someone has a better argument for why he's scum than those that have already been presented.

I especially dislike LMP's attack against him for voting Kondi because they were both voting that slot for the same reason, trying to blend in and I find the idea that a vote is worse for coming immediately after a vote count distasteful.

Tammy has found her way onto my scum list with her recent posts. She looks to me like she is trying to be aggressively unhelpful by questioning people's attacks (just to be clear, the issue I have is with the volume of these sorts of posts coming from her, I don't actually think that doing it is necessarily scummy). For example:

Also, what about Rang Tangler screamed scum at you?

You were voting Zdenek in the last thread and now you're voting AurorusVox. Did you change your mind about Zdenek?

Is there anything else you find suspicious about Shadow1 besides him changing his vote to CoolDog after getting called out for keeping his vote on Foxace while calling him town?

You highlighted that you are voting Norman for using think and might in regards to someone maybe being a scumbag. Do you find that scum are more likely to use words which make one seem unsure or town?How often do you tend to find scum by word choice?

Additionally, the fact that she is not voting reeks of unnecessarily cautious play, especially when she's been attacking Foxace. I looks as though she's checking to see if she can drum up support for the wagon before getting on.

I'd still like LMP to explain his rationale behind his strategy of lynching to maintain balance between the sides.

Thank you for this. This post absolutely made my night. Questioning people is good...it helps generate discussion and allows me to evaluate people. Interaction is good.

So, you don't have a problem with me questioning people, it's just the volume? Is there a quota I'm not supposed to exceed on this site? Am I only supposed to ask a certain number of people questions on certain days that I wasn't made aware of? I comment on what interests me or I leave it alone. There happen to be a lot of people in this game, and a lot has interested me.

You know, I've reread the questions you quoted just to make sure, but I'm not seeing how any of them are invalid questions. But I always find it interesting the people who try to halt others from having conversations with people.

OK...so which is it? Am I aggressively unhelpful or am I unnecessarily cautious? I really don't think you can be both at the same time.

Nope you're right...I'm not voting right now, and I won't be voting until tomorrow or Friday. I don't really care about the support I have for whomever I decide to vote for. If people disagree, they disagree. That's the nature of the game.

Actually to what Tammy just said to this^... I'm starting to have second thoughts about Zdenek as well...

What am I doing... What... Am I doing...

[Norman]

Pine

Are you fucking serious?

I had made exactly one post prior to this. One. Which was an early suspicion of the current leading wagon.

And yet, you decided to more or less ignore anyone else and focus entirely on me, capitalizing on my absence.

You've referenced Epic Mafia, so I can't figure out whether this is general idiocy, or the completely ass-backwards and bad meta you've picked up from that site.

Reading right now to more fully catch up. I really can't stand these threads that put out several pages in the course of a day, then get pissy with people who are constantly behind. Stop reveling in your own waste, shut the fuck up, and let others catch up.

First of all, Pine, I don't know about you but I'm a good guy. And I'll be Lawful Good because I don't like chaos...

Secondly, I'm voting for you because someone had said earlier you were buddying with someone, whether or not this is true can be debated, and quite honestly I don't even see who you are supposedly buddied with.

Thirdly, Pine, since I just revealed pretty much my role to you, publicly, so do me a pleasant favour and get your absurd vote off me along with the other uninformed ficks who placed their stupid shit votes...

Lastly, since pretty much every active player has voted for me, I've decided to share with everyone my true intentions and reasonings behind every sort of coverup in this game. After every active player decided to vote me (beginning with briz) I did something incredibly retarded but worth doing because I'm a reckless gambling P.I. I wanted to lynch myself in the case that people were getting annoyed. By doing this I influenced a vig claim and made everyone speculate if there was a vig. This probably caused more and more intentions for the scumbags to vote for me. So afterwords when briz was doing all this shit in the background, it was the perfect time to make an act of deception. So I violently shouted in words that I, myself, was a scumbag. In doing so, pretty much everyone reacted to it and more of them voted for me. While acting like a scumbag I wanted everyone to try and accuse me with bullshit reasoning. Some of it worked, some of it didn't. The players I've found scumbaggish so far are kondi, Lemons, Cooldog, briz, and Jackal after analyzing each post for bullshit reasoning. The people who had seemed to have a reason but really didn't are also bullshitters. I'm safe to say atleast one dirtbag is on my train. Also a word about Shadow1psc, I wanted him to lynch me but he was hesitant to the point and didn't bother listening to me. Whether this is an act of scumbaggery or townish-like, I'll never know.

What I just did was reverse psychology. Maybe there was never a scumbag on my wagon, but with about 8 people on it I find it hard to believe.

I can name a few of these bullshit reasonings: The way how I play this game, and the OMGUS debate. If you still think I'm bullshitting you can go to Hell and play Russian Roulette with Hitler.

[Norman]

Oh wait, I wanted to vote, right. And MoI, I'm glad you saw through my distractions, or aggressiveness. Whatever the case I still think your other head sucks.

Vote: Pine

Shutup and die scumbag, I'll enjoy when you fucking cry for mercy.

[Norman]

Fuck you, asshat.

Art thou mad, scumbag?

[Norman]

show*

Fucking phone and its pointless autocorrect......

Freedom at Iwo Jima!

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!

Just... Felt like saying that.

[Norman]

Hah! I knew I had a reason to like Norman!

@MaguaofIllusion:
No offense, but would you please take the dissonance to a QuickTopic? Before it gets out of hand, yeah?

Although Mhork, I don't think my reverse psychology tactic was doing any good in this game. Usually in smaller games because there's less players to make them react upon common annoyances and therefore I can get a larger view of what's happening, what their alignment probably is, etc.. But for larger games like this it's ineffective because some people that are inactive don't get to see the thread and they're Mafia and when some do they tell their scumbag friends to stop posting and improvise.

That's what I'm afraid of now, so I think they're just going to crawl back into their hiding place and discuss things over. Yeah... Should've just acted normal... Nevertheless I think I've atleast trapped one scumbag onto the spot, and that would be Pine, or some other people I had mentioned earlier. If we do get Pine and he's scum, the effect is probably working a bit. But like I said it's obsolete in larger games like these.

[Norman]

I wish I never told anyone this type of strategy because I like to keep things to myself, but whatever. It's not like I'm going to be playing with you all again anyways.

[Norman]

Idk. He's agreeing with everything I say, and he's voting for the Pine guy. He might be a rainbow wizard of neutral alignment for all I'm aware of.

[Norman]

Or maybe... A sorcerer, but then again sorcerers are natural born users of magic. Wizards are intellectuals who seek forms of magic to better improve their mastery of it. And then there's the paladin who is a more melee mastered form of the Cleric, both of whom deeply believe in a God and want to fight for it wheneve it calls them for holy crusades, peeing on another god's sacred temple, etc. And then there's the rogue who steals things and bullshits people... And then there's the bard! Who only makes music and annoys the hell out of people (but that's not me, I'll becoming up last.) Then there's the raw powered fighter, the barbarian, he simply goes beserk and kills people with 2 handed heavy weapons or a weapon in each hand. And then there's the regular fighter who isn't as crazy as the barbarian but maybe that's a good thing. And then there's the ranger who professionalizes in arrows but seldom has time to fight or practice for melee because they're either too weak or they suck at it. And then there's the druid who is like a magical hippy and sits on his ass all day smoking weed except in a much less harmful way by making love with nature. And then threre's the commoner who basically is like, "What?" because they're regular joes.

And then there's my own personal class, unique and awesome in it's own way. I'm the Norman, P.I. The Norman P.I. has certain advantages and certain disadvantages. In fact it's universal and glorious in it's own way. And why? Because I can do anything the above classes do except not do what they do. In other words, I can make people think I'm something that I'm not, in which case if they ever become "friends" with me they get killed with my revolver. Here's a picture of the class.



Sweet.

[Norman]

Idk. He's agreeing with everything I say, and he's voting for the Pine guy. He might be a rainbow wizard of neutral alignment for all I'm aware of.

LOL. Everybody that agrees with you is town. Everybody that doesn't is scum. What was that about bullshit reasons?

First of all I have yet to hear from the other players, because they might be scumbags as well. Secondly, I had positioned myself on an easy vote, the scumbags could've easily still voted for me while trying to be one with the town. Thirdly I have several other suspicions that I might want to add later to my FoS list. And lastly, I'd like you to shutup now because I don't like being criticized about my FoS lists.

[Norman]

Why are you only concerned with questioning one person?

What's the problem if he is? Your question implies that Foxace36 focusing his questions at one player is somehow bad.

Whoa. People are talking and stuff. I had no idea this thread was back up.

I don't have time right now, but I'll
a) Reread the original thread
b) Read this new thread
c) Reread the original thread again
d) Make a post
tomorrow night, when I have a spare moment.

Did you feel compelled to detail this for some reason?

This is a fantastic question.

Sorry. This is my real question to LMP

You highlighted that you are voting Norman for using think and might in regards to someone maybe being a scumbag. Do you find that scum are more likely to use words which make one seem unsure or town?

How often do you tend to find scum by word choice?

What do you think of RT's response to Feysal saying that scum would be insane not to claim the opposite alignment:

"This 100%. A RC kind of defeats the purpose of itself in some aspects. But we also don't know if there's an even number of LE & CE and CG & LG. Or if the total LE + CG = LG + CE. So I suppose some information could certainly be ascertained."

I catch scum on word choice all the time. By far one of my top scum tells is finding scum that appear to be crafting their thoughts to conform/appease the town. Also fence-sitting/wishy-washy language is a big red flag for me. For a great example of these tells, see me catch CoachTravis scum on day 1 in Ghostbusters Mafia, in large part due to the way he used language in that game (see my ISO 1 where I show his backtracking from the use of the word "constant" was scummy and his fence-sitting/wishy-washy language toward Scott Brosius). I'm sure there are plenty of other examples of this in my wiki.

As for the quote, I'm not sure I follow the argument of whether or not LE + CG = LG + CE, since the game seemed intentionally designed to have PRECISELY that balance. I'm not sure what "some" information he suggests could be ascertained, but I don't think it outweighs the serious dangers that Feysal correctly identified.

Vote: Myself
Reason: Everyone surprisingly hates me.

This should convince the doubters.

I especially dislike LMP's attack against him for voting Kondi because they were both voting that slot for the same reason, trying to blend in and I find the idea that a vote is worse for coming immediately after a vote count distasteful.

Just so I have you correctly, when he sees his own wagon building, as displayed in a vote count, he immediately hops his vote to the only other viable wagon, and you think suspecting him for that is DISTASTEFUL!? As I see it, that is one of the best arguments for Norman-scum.

I'd still like LMP to explain his rationale behind his strategy of lynching to maintain balance between the sides.

Why? This only worked with the mass alignment claim and it's already been proven to be a bad idea.

VOTE: VOTE: Norman

Continually spouting nonsense, as well as having over 1/3 of the total posts in this thread which is making it hard to catch up.

Call it a policy lynch if you want, but his large number of posts seems scummy to me as it's hindering scumhunting.

But Zdenek finds my reasons "distasteful". My mind = blown.

Also not a fan of MOI's "scum wouldn't act this way" argument for Norman. No idea why "aggressive" is a town tell. Scum can easily be aggressive, especially in multiball. And stupidity as a town tell is also so full of fail it's not funny. Do you want a list of shotty-scum games that he got busted for being stupid? Cause I can definitely provide that. Start with the ghostbusters game linked above. So stupid != town and aggressive != town.

LMP did you actually read my reverse psychology post... That was the thing that was supposed to help. But now I see it's ineffective because there's alot more people. And I'll use wishy-washy language whenever I like! And that self-vote was an add-on to the other votes and I hoped one of the people that hadn't talked would vote me with absolutely no reason. The scumbags in this game are smarter then they look...

Also have no idea why you're dragging on about this because like I last said to Pine, I wasn't even a scumbag. I mean, wtf?

[Norman]

@MoS

– Stop trying to bait suspicion. With Trekker and Norman around it’s never going to pay dividends.

Norman is not a village idiot, he's a townie.

grade-A VI moron.

Nope.

Regardless of how Town he is per my other head he’s going to be

actively helping the scum with his ‘antics’ until he’s dead.

Well I don't think so.

Mark my words …

he’ll never be scum-killed.

So if you want this string of

stupidity

I wouldn't call it stupidity, I'd call it being retarded and discreet.

to continue please feel free to not vote him.

For the record – Norman indicates he thinks scum have daytalk.

Yes I do, does anyone else?

Other head – go refresh yourself on Clash of Kings and the process by which competent Town are killed leaving VIs in endgame to screw up what should have been an easy Town Victory

Like I said I'm NOT a VI, I'm a regular townie... God I hate when people use that fucking description

. That’s a roadmap to what leaving Norman alive gets you.

How would you know? I had a game where I was left alive with a few other townies and we killed all the scumbags.

Greenknight is tingling my scum-dar. He’s keeping a generally low profile, talking around any significant thread activities, and is taking the position re: Norman I expect from scum – one that allows them to lynch him later on when mislynches are running low.

That's not going to happen. I think I can do things my own way.

Any of trekker, Haze and Skenvoy are still great votes. Mod has acknowledged that everyone received new Role PMs so there is no reason why anyone can say “Oh hai, I didn’t know this thread was open”.

Lord Mhork

– so basically Post 428 you were fluffing to look good when you said “There is scum there” since you actually didn’t have any suspects. Also – why didn’t you find the flurry on Lemon to be “odd” since it can't be considered any more 'well grounded'?

What have I learned from Norman?

That he’s a Chesskid / Shotty / Furc level VI.

I don't know those people and I'm not a VI. You really haven't learned anything from me have you? Sure I may have screwed up this time but there were other times where I succeeded.

There is no grand plan coming together. His tactics are pointless.

Do yourself a favour and look at my goddamn posts. I hate this head really much.

Go through his ISO and count up the following –

Number of players he accuses of being scum – Wager it is approximately 60% of the playerlist.

Number of actual commitments to positions on players being scum – You will find Zero.

Scumbags come in many different forms, shapes, and languages. And with that statement I base off having probably atleast one scumbag on the list. Your logic actually makes no sense at all.

His reads list at Post 443 doesn’t commit to actual scum-reads on anyone. FOSes and “Might be scum’ aren’t actual positions.

Maybe but it's the first day, how would I know? How would anyone know for sure?

Also Lord M – please link me to any completed game you have where scum self-voted

I self-voted myself because frst I thought my situation was hopeless. It might still be but I wouldn't honestly know. The second reason behind is that I was trying to influence other people without legitimate reason to vote me. Lemons had acted like this, so had briz. The whole plan was to get scum on the wagon and try to make them look town but when everyone had voted for me I would say what my plans were at the end of the votes. As I realized the reverse psychological effect probably isn't going to work that great because there's lots of people.

.

Zdenek gets scum-points for his stance on Norman. Like Greenknight it looks like scum keeping his position open. The fact that they were voting each other (or people claim they were – I didn’t bother re-reading) in the old thread but have a 180 change in this one is worth noting.

@Tammy

– regardless of you stubbornness to not want to vote – who are you biggest three suspects at this stage

--

Shadoweh gets her own section –

First please confirm or deny you are a Mina Alt.

To keep it brief, the amount of posts you have is not as important as when you have them. Dropping off in activity when you're under suspicion is scummy, but I've come to the conclusion that Lemon isn't really posting less so much as other people are posting way too much. I still want him to expand his suspicions, the attacks on Norman are too easy and it seems like he forgot he thought Fox was scum.

Oh, so your argument is that despite being at the top of the list ML was lurking out pressue. Let’s take a spin through the facts, shall we?

Day 1 opens March 18 at 9:51pm (note all times are my personal site time of EDT). Game rules say that prods are given every 48 hours.

You make your “ML is lurking post” on March 20 at 10:40am.

Lemon’s prior post was at March 19 at 6:09pm.

So you were pushing ML as lurking out pressure 16 hours after his last post and 36 hours after the game actually started. So before he could be even due a Prod.

No. Just no. The

spam

It's spam but it's spam that I had to use for the effect.

generated in the thread by Norman does mean someone not posting for 16 hours is lurking out pressure. At the point you made your accusations Lemon would not have been due a prod if he had not posted since the game started.

Your “he was lurking out pressure based on when he posted” holds ZERO water. You are scum who got caught with her hand in the cookie jar making a scummy argument and is doing everything you can to extricate yourself.

VOTE: Shadoweh

Die, scum, die!!!

Why do we have hydras in this game if they don't atleast agree on something? It's actually making me more confused about what they appear to be then ever.

[Norman]

Pardon if I may be slightly annoying, but why are we not voting for Pine now?

[Norman]

Why are you only concerned with questioning one person?

What's the problem if he is? Your question implies that Foxace36 focusing his questions at one player is somehow bad.

Trying to determine what if anything that says about his alignment or his playstyle. Seems a bit odd seeing as how we have a more than one scum team out there to just focus on one person, especially when he's as active as he is and the one player he wants to question was inactive at the time.

Sorry. This is my real question to LMP

You highlighted that you are voting Norman for using think and might in regards to someone maybe being a scumbag. Do you find that scum are more likely to use words which make one seem unsure or town?

How often do you tend to find scum by word choice?

What do you think of RT's response to Feysal saying that scum would be insane not to claim the opposite alignment:

"This 100%. A RC kind of defeats the purpose of itself in some aspects. But we also don't know if there's an even number of LE & CE and CG & LG. Or if the total LE + CG = LG + CE. So I suppose some information could certainly be ascertained."

I catch scum on word choice all the time. By far one of my top scum tells is finding scum that appear to be crafting their thoughts to conform/appease the town. Also fence-sitting/wishy-washy language is a big red flag for me. For a great example of these tells, see me catch CoachTravis scum on day 1 in Ghostbusters Mafia, in large part due to the way he used language in that game (see my ISO 1 where I show his backtracking from the use of the word "constant" was scummy and his fence-sitting/wishy-washy language toward Scott Brosius). I'm sure there are plenty of other examples of this in my wiki.

As for the quote, I'm not sure I follow the argument of whether or not LE + CG = LG + CE, since the game seemed intentionally designed to have PRECISELY that balance. I'm not sure what "some" information he suggests could be ascertained, but I don't think it outweighs the serious dangers that Feysal correctly identified.

I realize RT is not in the game so it doesn't technically matter anymore, though I do think that predecssors must be taken into account when evaluating the new one. I thought that quote I asked you about was strange and felt like an attempt to contribute to the conversation and say something without making an opinion to avoid getting any more votes.

I agree that word choice is important and can help catch scum, but you have to be careful too, because town are just as likely to use words like "think" or "might" as scum. In fact, town has more of a tendency to do so because of coming from the position of not actually knowing anything.

I'm sure your meta is great, but I'm not going to read it. I have very limited experience with people on this site (3 people in this game were in a game I was briefly in before the crash), and I do my best to not allow meta into a current game. I might read it later though, I do love seeing people caught by word choice. In the last game I played in on my regular site, I was sure I caught scum for word choice. Everyone thought I was crazy...they did end up being scum in the end.[/quote]

Tammy, I think you just outwitted LMP with this because town does have a tendency to say things like that, alot of the time (I say it alot actually... In the Tits for Tots game I was in, I actually was kind of indesicive) and that I'm actually a townie. Eheheheheheheheh. Ah so much indifference in this game.

Back to the point though, Pine's a scumbag by trying to convince Foxace about his decision. Then you have MoI posting seconds ago (the nicer head) on why he's a scumbag. Then you have Foxace still quarreling with Pine and then Pine says, "Fuck you asshat." That is an indication which means he rolls about 64% scumbag. While the other 36% of the roll if he were to be lynched would be either a gray class or a townie. If in case he does turn up town I have another suspect in mind, and that would be kondi and some other people... I'm also weary about what Tammy said above because word choice can often to be a very good indicator but not all the time. As in Scumhunter's Tits for Tots, word choice is a rather sad tactic.

[Norman]

Here's the URL to Scumhunter's Tits for Tots game. Hoopla was actually the remaining scumbag and kondi was a townie... Some of the last and other parts got left out. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=450

Also here's the reverse psychology tactic I was talking about. It usually works with 8 - 10 players or below (the game was Mayo Clinic). I had successfully used it against the scumbags, who were Awesoma, BBmolla (well the vigilante sort of helped with that one), and the last guy (havingfitz) to get killed was the Serial Killer who persistently was being an ass to me the whole time. They used a different plan agaist him. Also some parts are left out as well so contact Uite if you have an further questions about the final showdown in that game. But town won that solely and singlehandedly because of me. I was even nominated by Hinduragi at end of the game who was a replacement of someone. Of course I died in the end, but I didn't care nevertheless because of what I did.

I'm pretty sure Riggs remembers it too, and kondi... Although he thought I did the whole reverse psychology/WIFOM thing wrong. He was corrected. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=19523

So MoI's meaner head don't fucking correct me on shit you fucking don't know about. You too CoolDog and LMP. Goddamn, people are just too fucking hostile.

And I heard you a second time Cooldog, please just shutup.

[Norman]

the real question is why isn't he voting for you when he has been pushing for your lynch for the past 20 pages or so. Also, good catch on the day-talk thing... lynch norman now please.

How about we lynch you for ignoring my fucking posts! How about you read them and stop being retarded.

[Norman]

Scum reads so far.....

MoI
Pine
CoolDog
Mastermind of Sin
Tammy



Will elaborate further tomorrow. (Heading to the theaters with a group of friends in a few hours to wait in line for the Hunger Games premiere! )

Yeah, I'm starting to think fucking Cooldog is a scumbag as well. And MoI, as hydras tend to be confusing...

[Norman]

As I've now learned from this game, hydras have two personalities that make it hard for people to know what the hell they are. When is this game ever going to proceed...

[Norman]

@norman, how could one vote for you and not be a scumbag?

Didn't I explain this a day or an hour ago? They would want to vote me because I seemed like an easy target. They want to blend in with the townspeople so that they woudn't get recognized as scumbags. If there isn't atleast 1 scumbag on there well then the reverse psychology effect obviously didn't work and I should've executed it later...

[Norman]

Right, zdenek gets some scum points for his stupid questioning of Tammy's questions. Asking questions is a fairly common and completely valid playstyle, and I don't like the way z was trying to read so much into them, and his argument looked a little like he was reaching. Also he goes in three hours from 'I like Shadoweh's points against Pine, to voting Shaodweh ( http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3926095 and http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3926204).
And foxace's recent posts are makink him look scummier and scummier, would be happy lynching him atm.
My vote still on Norman, we're not going to get anywhere with him playing, and I could be persuaded to switch my vote to Pine if needed, but at least he's vaguely playing, going to ISO foxace and see how scummy he looks.

How would you know if I'm not going to get anywhere when I'm playing? You're getting scummier each time I look at your posts. Furthermore you didn't even read the shit that I had to say because it's clearly evident you didn't. I tried to develop a plan in this game without thinking, and it got me on a bad lynch sequence. That's what it was supposed to do except I didn't get most of the players to react to it.

Also, did you see the reaction Pine made to Foxace? Idk if that's worth scumbag indication but it appears to be scumbaggish.

[Norman]

@norman, how could one vote for you and not be a scumbag?

Didn't I explain this a day or an hour ago? They would want to vote me because I seemed like an easy target. They want to blend in with the townspeople so that they woudn't get recognized as scumbags. If there isn't atleast 1 scumbag on there well then the reverse psychology effect obviously didn't work and I should've executed it later...

Don't take the negative. Under what situation could I vote for you and not be a scumbag? Apparently the answer is never. Correct? Because we are all trying to push an easy lynch right. Maybe it's an easy lynch for a reason. Because you are acting so damn scummy (as I have outlined before) that it would be stupid not to vote for you. Also, you do realize that acting stupid and putting everybody that has ever voted for you on your scum list hurts town and just creates a bunch of useless noise.

Everything you said there is extremely debatable. But I don't want to argue because I'm tired of your shit. I have the remain silent, and will do so.

[Norman]

*The right to remain silent and will do so.

[Norman]

everything cool dog says is irrelevant, because he's scum.

Trekker I really hope you're a rainbow wizard of neutral alignment... But yes I agree that Cooldog is a scumbag. It's really just intuition now.

[Norman]

Well if townspeople and neutrals could follow this vote, well then I have no problem in voting Cooldog. Although I still think Pine is scum nevertheless.

Unvote: Pine

Vote: Cooldog
Reason: His conversations are bullshit. I don't care what he says to me in advance.

[Norman]

On a quick skim I don't like the CD wagon at all. I've been in many games with CD where I couldn't wait to rope him, this game

he's actually made a decent amount of sense

Not really from what I'm hearing.

. Can't help but wonder if he's a convenient counterwagon to one of the

scum bags we're running up.

Idk about you LMP but I'm town.

More in depth post later/tomorrow.

Meh. Whatever, I still think Cooldog is scumbaggish. Idc what you have to say because pretty much basically everyone lynching me is insulting my way of playing the game.

[Norman]

Judging from LMPs last post, he's probably town.

As the norman lynch seems to be losing steam, and I like the CD wagon even less then I like the Pine one, I'm sorely tempted to vote Foxace or Lemon, will make a long awesome post detailing why tomorrow, and I need to do an ISO on Shadoweh. And I'm loving how Norman has acquired a small band of followers who will follow his every vote.

They're not followers, they're standing for what they believe in. And if they want to go that way, so will I.

[Norman]

If this wasn't multi-scum we could could clear CD at this point. As it is his wagon is going to be silly useful once Norm flips scum.

But you see, Empking, I'm town. And there's lots of reasons why I'm voting for Cooldog. One is his failure not to acknowledge my way of playing. 2ndly, he's calling us stupid for independent votes. And 3rdly, I don't like he's now calling me a hindrance to the town. I'm keeping my vote where it is until someone has good enough reason to coerce me.

[Norman]

Ok... So far it's just been discussional dissent. I don't even know if Cooldog is a scumbag anymore, I mean there's always two sides of the accusations. One side doesn't want to lynch Cooldog, the other side does.

If I can just figure out what side isn't bullshitting... But it's hard to tell without the day ending and actions are submitted to the mod. If only it were Day 2...

And if I'm town what does that make Cooldog and the rest of the people voting for him?

Unvote: Cooldog.

I don't know anymore... I should've used the reverse psychology tactic on Day 2 but it's too late for that. There has to be some way to sort everyone out without having to lynch them...

[Norman]

Pardon if I may be slightly annoying, but why are we not voting for Pine now?

What are your reasons for wanting to lynch Pine?

My reasons for lynching Pine was purely out of suspicion and reads. And also his recent word choices ring scumbag. If he isn't a scumbag, I wouldn't care less because he really isn't playing the game.

[Norman]

Pardon if I may be slightly annoying, but why are we not voting for Pine now?

What are your reasons for wanting to lynch Pine?

My reasons for lynching Pine was purely out of suspicion and reads. And also his recent word choices ring scumbag. If he isn't a scumbag, I wouldn't care less because he really isn't playing the game.

How are his word choices any different than trekker's which I'm to take you have a good opinion of?

To be honest, I'm not sure of trekker. All he did was support my lynch targets... Whether he has a mind of his own or being consulted by scumbags to band with the paranoid guy (me), I really don't know what alignment he is. He's the exact form of me in this game except more silent... But Pine cursed out Foxace when pretty much a decent amount of people had voted for him. However I don't want to lynch anyone without knowing who is who, and until then I'll fence-sit.

[Norman]

Hey Norman is trekker playing the game?

Trekker is playing the game because he's voting for people. Why would you want to ask that, kondi?

[Norman]

I have a question, MoS, are you just idling around just for fun, or is it for a greater purpose?

[Norman]

Neither?

What does 8 x 7 = ?

[Norman]

Come back here and answer it like a man, dirtbag.

[Norman]

Rats. he got away... Well I'm pretty much fed up with all this non-lynching business going around and I'm an impatient person... When will this day ever end...

Well I got some things to do. Adios amigoes. I'll be back when you guys have made up your mind. And it better not be me because I try hard to play this game.

[Norman]

Pretty much don't want to play this game anymore. People like Norman just make Mafia un-fun.I'm a Chaotic Good Bard. I can Detect Law every night in search of the LE faction

First of all I don't try to make Mafia un-fun. And I didn't say I was going forever, I'm watching progress.

And if you're a Bard how about you detect me and see if I'm Town, if I am, could you kindly explain these angry people to kindly get their hands off the rope for a lynch that should never happen.

[Norman]

I'm confused, why is Pine claiming now? What happened?

I made the guy confess in a rather painstaking way. Read what happened, Mhork.

[Norman]

Pretty much don't want to play this game anymore. People like Norman just make Mafia un-fun.

I'm a Chaotic

Good

Bard. I can Detect Law every night

in search

of the LE faction.

Pray tell, how does detecting Law help you search for the LE faction as opposed to simply lawful players in general (ie, half the game)?

Read the bold. I win if I eliminate the LE faction.

Alright, coniferous tree, who the hell do you think is a lawful scumbag besides me?

[Norman]

In other words, if you're LG, I have nothing against you, as we aren't competing, but neither are we allied. Stay out of my way and I'll try staying out of yours, but don't fuck with the CG vs LE fight.

PE: Actually, Norman, considering you claimed LG, I don't really care about you anymore. If you're LG, then we're not opponents. If you're CE, we aren't opponents.

Go do your own thing, stop spamming the thread, and fuck off

PE2: Of course it's useful in helping

my faction

win. Law detected=possible opponent. Chaotic detected=not an opponent.

I wish you wouldn't use words like the "f" word when you know I'm LG. Listen Pine, I'm going to help you whether you like it or not. So tell me who the fuck your next scumbag read is.

Alright, Foxace it is.

Vote: Foxace

[Norman]

cooldog is mafia

He might be. He just might. Sadly you can't do anything really until Day 2 where you have enough spectating of actions andevidence to reek out most of the bad shit.

[Norman]

Norman, I'll tell you to fuck off all I like. You're annoying, spammy, you make me want to replace out of a game I've been anticipating for half a year and was the first pre/in for, and you helped force a Cop to claim on D1 mostly out of OMGUS and because midterms are kicking my ass.

So fuck you.

No I don't think I've been such a trollish spammer lately. And yes I do have an affinity to being annoying and sometimes violent. But understand, I actually want to have fun, just like you. I'm trying my best to scumhunt, and I'm a little bit sorry that you can't accept such a thing.

Besides you shouldn't even join a game if you're in school right now.

[Norman]

I can't help to think that this somewhat my fault... Oh well I'll get over it.

[Norman]

Neither?

What does 8 x 7 = ?

6? 9? 42?

Good tries, but it's 56... What a day...

[Norman]

What's 6 + 9 + 42 - you?

6 + 9 + 42 - you = 57 - you. This is because you is a variable, and therefore is an imcomplete algrebraic equation.

[Norman]

So Feysal has come back, so Charlie Chaplin what do you have on YOUR mind?

[Norman]

Sigh, I was hoping I'd have a little bit of interaction at conversation:30 AM with Feysal. But it's too late for that and I'm getting tired. Also Briz was watching the whole thing as well because I watch the monitor for a whole day and night. Idk what I have to say to that, I'd call it lurking but then again no one listens to Normanus Insanus.

[Norman]

He's softclaimed everything though

has he like hardclaimed anything yet

becaus only hardclaims count

I don't... Like this post one bit.

Vote: Shadoweh

Yeah I may not have a reason, but at this rate THIS seems scumbaggish.

[Norman]

Greenknight is tingling my scum-dar. He’s keeping a generally low profile, talking around any significant thread activities, and is taking the position re: Norman I expect from scum – one that allows them to lynch him later on when mislynches are running low.

I said I think Norman is unlikely to be scum, how on earth do you interpret that as setting up a future mislynch? It's particularly hypocritical given that in the same post you said the following:

Norman is a grade-A VI moron. Regardless of how Town he is per my other head he’s going to be actively helping the scum with his ‘antics’ until he’s dead. Mark my words … he’ll never be scum-killed. So if you want this string of stupidity to continue please feel free to not vote him.

Implying that Norman is of negative value to the town and therefore it's ok to policy lynch him... it looks to me like you're the one potentially promoting a future mislynch here.

(Also, policy lynches are a bad idea in this game, given that scum have 2 night kills to our 1 lynch and the scum are not in competition with each other. We can't afford to waste days just to lynch people for being annoying.)

That actually looks more scumbaggish then Shade's post.

Unvote: Shadoweh
Vote: greenknight
Reason: Above quote

[Norman]

Nothing. He has to die eventually, though. Plus, he *might* be scum.

I'm saying all of the players on Foxace are scummy, and all the players on CooLDoG are scummy.

I'm not going to die! I will be a main character, damn it!

[Norman]

Good question Empking.

Eventually if we all get the same suspects I think we might be able to lynch them without question. It just needs time...

[Norman]

Also no offense, kondi, but you were sort of lame in Mayo Clinic. Like you were the dull quintagonist always saying stupid shit. So maybe you shuold die.

[Norman]

Maybe you* should die. Just saying. I mean, if you're making me look like an asshole, just look at yourself in that past game.

[Norman]

Norman, that was fucking Mayo Clinic, where whispersilk was dictating the game with "logix" and "planz", and I replaced out right after you did. Your argument is invalid.

Also no offense, Norman

kondi, but you were sort of lame in Mayo Clinic. Like

you

were

are the dull quintagonist always saying stupid shit. So maybe you shuold die.

I have fixed this for you.

Eh fuck you! You don't know happened! You weren't there, MoI... You weren't there...

Norman, that was fucking Mayo Clinic, where whispersilk was dictating the game with "logix" and "planz", and I replaced out right after you did. Your argument is invalid.

Bullshit! Without me you and your rookies wouldn't have survived that much soley because of me! I was the guy that figured out the case, not the guys after me! They only finished off to what I started. Whiskers was sort of the Ulysses S. Grant and I was Winfield Scott! I was the progneitor of the fucking plans, you were only there to fucking criticize it.

[Norman]

I would be fine with lynching one of:
Norm - Fairly obvious why
trekker - Sadly just another troll, doesn't seem to be putting any effort into the game at all apart from voting people without any reasons
ManiacalLemon - Seemed scummy in the old thread and has continued to be - Continued talk of a jester, trying to bring back a roleclaim debate that had been put to bed, and his jump onto the CD wagon.
PereV - Seems to be trying to stay under the radar, watching the town fight itself, and again his jump on the CD wagion reeks scumminess.

@Perev

reads please
Pine - His claim was totally unnesecary and I dont like the way that he seems to be trying to divide the town into lawful vs chaos, firstly for his claim, and secondly for his recent posts about Norman
greenknight - Basically what MoI said above

After rereading Foxace, torn between whether he's scum or a newbie town, used to playing this game on websites like epic mafia, but I really dislike his scum list here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p3926392 and also the fact that he continues to promise to post his reads or make a wall soon but never does so puts him on my suspiscion list for now.

We need to decide whether or not too lynch Norman now, or just accept him as a troll and continue scumhunting. Personally I'd be in favour of a lynch.

You obviously don't know what I'm capable of. You don't allow people second chances do you? It's a shame, briz. Because if you were in my position I'd allow you a second chance. Yeah. Who's the dick now?

[Norman]

Nothing. He has to die eventually, though. Plus, he *might* be scum.

I'm saying all of the players on Foxace are scummy, and all the players on CooLDoG are scummy.

I'm not going to die! I will be a main character, damn it!

I'm more like Radagast the Brown in Lord of the Rings. Yeah without me Gandalf wouldn't have the giant eagles saving him from Saruman. I mean he's not really a main character in the movies but he is a main character in the books. And that's what counts.

Also LMP, you really should give me a second chance. I may act like a VI but I'm really a competent townie. I don't deserve instant death. I never did.

[Norman]

P.S. If you read all of Suzanne Collin's hunger games books, don't go see the movie. It'll piss you off. Jus' sayin'.

Disagree. The movie was good. You're probably one of those people that freaks out because "OMFG no TOM BOMBADIL!" Newsflash: Movies aren't books. That's why they say they're "adapted" from the book.

Goddamn LMP that's obvious information... And Foxace I'm surprised you didn't know Hollywood movies don't go with the actual story most of the time.

[Norman]

You people questioning the timing of my claim - are you nuts? There was a wagon on me, picking up steam, led by morons who had no good reasons but were getting support from smart people that could actually make it happen.

What are you talking about? Two days ago there were three votes on you. When you claimed there were two. Now there is only one left. Your wagon was not picking up steam, it was collapsing. The only wagon I have seen picking up steam lately is the one on CooLDoG, and that wagon ranks high among the stupidest things I've seen in this game.

So Feysal has come back, so Charlie Chaplin what do you have on YOUR mind?

Plenty. For one thing, a sincere wish that there would be less noise in this game, so I could have more time for actual analysis and posting, instead of wasting it wading through the muck that is this thread. Which you are largely responsible for. Have a look at the activity overview and ask yourself, what do you have to say that is so bloody important that you cannot say it without having over 25% of the total posts?

Below are some highlights of your recent posts. Take a time out, think them over, and see if you can't figure out why no one takes you seriously or likes you in this game.

I wouldn't call it stupidity, I'd call it being retarded and discreet.

Did you really just say that you would rather be called retarded than stupid? Why yes, yes you did. Then again, perhaps you are not a native English speaker and don't know what the word means? Nope, you demonstrated the correct usage of the word in post #504.

Like I said I'm NOT a VI, I'm a regular townie... God I hate when people use that fucking description.

And yet you are a village idiot, and you should be glad of it, since it is the only thing keeping you from being lynched. Just in case you actually meant it when you called yourself retarded, and you in fact suffer from a debilitating mental disability, I apologize for the insensitivity, but it is true.

Scumbags come in many different forms, shapes, and languages. And with that statement I base off having probably atleast one scumbag on the list. Your logic actually makes no sense at all.

There probably is, given that there were eight names on your suspect list. You would have to beat the odds if there were no scum there at all. Even a blind chicken choosing at random would be expected to get one or two right.

Maybe but it's the first day, how would I know? How would anyone know for sure?

You were accused of lack of commitment to your scum reads, and this is your response? Good grief. And only two posts previous you said you had more suspects to add and that you did not like having your suspect list criticized. If this is the limit of your faith in your own reads, why should anyone else take your reads seriously?

The whole plan was to get scum on the wagon and

try to make them look town

but when everyone had voted for me I would say what my plans were at the end of the votes.

EXCUSE ME?

It's spam but it's spam that I had to use for the effect.

So you admit to spamming the thread, then deny it in post #617. While continuing to spam.

*The right to remain silent and

will do so

.

You would be ten times the player you are if you posted one tenth of what you do, but spent ten times the effort thinking about what you post.

Who's my favourite little turdshit, you are Feysal, you are. Awwww you're so cute trying to make me look like crap. I applaud you for your efforts you worthless, scum-sucking, discriminating, negligant, afflicted, calamitous, vile motherfucking bastard. I hope some day you may be able to eat feces like the piece of shit you are.

[Norman]

You people questioning the timing of my claim - are you nuts? There was a wagon on me, picking up steam, led by morons who had no good reasons but were getting support from smart people that could actually make it happen.

What are you talking about? Two days ago there were three votes on you. When you claimed there were two. Now there is only one left. Your wagon was not picking up steam, it was collapsing. The only wagon I have seen picking up steam lately is the one on CooLDoG, and that wagon ranks high among the stupidest things I've seen in this game.

So Feysal has come back, so Charlie Chaplin what do you have on YOUR mind?

Plenty. For one thing, a sincere wish that there would be less noise in this game, so I could have more time for actual analysis and posting, instead of wasting it wading through the muck that is this thread. Which you are largely responsible for. Have a look at the activity overview and ask yourself, what do you have to say that is so bloody important that you cannot say it without having over 25% of the total posts?

Below are some highlights of your recent posts. Take a time out, think them over, and see if you can't figure out why no one takes you seriously or likes you in this game.

I wouldn't call it stupidity, I'd call it being retarded and discreet.

Did you really just say that you would rather be called retarded than stupid? Why yes, yes you did. Then again, perhaps you are not a native English speaker and don't know what the word means? Nope, you demonstrated the correct usage of the word in post #504.

Like I said I'm NOT a VI, I'm a regular townie... God I hate when people use that fucking description.

And yet you are a village idiot, and you should be glad of it, since it is the only thing keeping you from being lynched. Just in case you actually meant it when you called yourself retarded, and you in fact suffer from a debilitating mental disability, I apologize for the insensitivity, but it is true.

Scumbags come in many different forms, shapes, and languages. And with that statement I base off having probably atleast one scumbag on the list. Your logic actually makes no sense at all.

There probably is, given that there were eight names on your suspect list. You would have to beat the odds if there were no scum there at all. Even a blind chicken choosing at random would be expected to get one or two right.

Maybe but it's the first day, how would I know? How would anyone know for sure?

You were accused of lack of commitment to your scum reads, and this is your response? Good grief. And only two posts previous you said you had more suspects to add and that you did not like having your suspect list criticized. If this is the limit of your faith in your own reads, why should anyone else take your reads seriously?

The whole plan was to get scum on the wagon and

try to make them look town

but when everyone had voted for me I would say what my plans were at the end of the votes.

EXCUSE ME?

It's spam but it's spam that I had to use for the effect.

So you admit to spamming the thread, then deny it in post #617. While continuing to spam.

*The right to remain silent and

will do so

.

You would be ten times the player you are if you posted one tenth of what you do, but spent ten times the effort thinking about what you post.

Who's my favourite little turdshit, you are Feysal, you are. Awwww you're so cute trying to make me look like crap. I applaud you for your efforts you worthless, scum-sucking, discriminating, negligant, afflicted, calamitous, vile motherfucking bastard. I hope some day you may be able to eat feces like the piece of shit you are.

Could we please just lynch this guy and get on with the game?

You also are the lowest form of life you sick tenuous fuck. You can go fuck yourself up with bullshit Feysal over there as well. In fact I should've voted for your disgusting ridden-filth the first time I saw your accursed posts.

[Norman]

If you guys are going to act mean, I can do twice the same better!

[Norman]

You guys just piss me off. All of you. These atrocities just make me even more mad!

[Norman]

Who's my favourite little turdshit, you are Feysal, you are. Awwww you're so cute trying to make me look like crap. I applaud you for your efforts you worthless, scum-sucking, discriminating, negligant, afflicted, calamitous, vile motherfucking bastard. I hope some day you may be able to eat feces like the piece of shit you are.

Such praise! I am not worthy!

Must... stop... laughing...

It seems to me that you have only proven my point. In case you were actually offended by the debilitating mental disability bit, you should not be. The way you set yourself up for that zinger would have been criminal not to use. Point is, you really don't need me to make you look bad or undermine you, you do that all by yourself. If you can't take criticism, you are playing the wrong game.

I was just kidding Feysal. I like you. But I hate the idea of you.

With 26 players how do we expect to get a lynch in 9 days, by the way?

Actual lol here. What is the fastest large lynch anyway? Hint, it was one post and was a bad idea . But the fifth shortest day in all of MS history (a pretty long time) is 5 days. Which is still pretty short. I'm going off on tangents here again.

Norman, that was fucking Mayo Clinic, where whispersilk was dictating the game with "logix" and "planz", and I replaced out right after you did. Your argument is invalid.

Just a little meta here for those who don't know. Norman is 1000x better than mist beauty.

@moI's post. Lead on brother. However, I must ask, what do you think of tammy vs. zed? Do you think that their interaction is scummy, or neutral? Also, lynch scum or anti-town (who is town aligned, if you get what I mean)? Also, I would be happy to lynch greeknight as well.

Also, if we are going to policy lynch we had better do it today as briz correctly points out. By d-2 we should be lynching who we think is scum only. With two kills its even debatable if we should P-lynch d1. But personally I would be for a norman lynch or a trekker P-lynch.

You obviously don't know what I'm capable of. You don't allow people second chances do you? It's a shame, briz. Because if you were in my position I'd allow you a second chance. Yeah. Who's the dick now?

Okay, prove us wrong and show us that you are better. If you actually try to catch scum and scum hunt and not omgus half the player list then we/I won't vote for you.

If I had the ability to

nuke every player

shoot, kick, ban every stupid fucker on a wagon, I'd target the CD wagon.

Fixed
Also, LMP should win the award for the most witty player in this game, just saying.

What the fuck is this epic mafia people keep mentioning?

Stay ignorant. I think either UT, oman, or NS actually never said a word on a certain EM account and he has a really good win/loss record. So it's basically the shit pool of mafia gaming.

P.S. If you read all of Suzanne Collin's hunger games books, don't go see the movie. It'll piss you off. Jus' sayin'.

Disagree. The movie was good. You're probably one of those people that freaks out because "OMFG no TOM BOMBADIL!" Newsflash: Movies aren't books. That's why they say they're "adapted" from the book.

It is up for debate if movies can even be compared to books. Totally different medium. Also, Battle Royal movie/book is way way better imo.

@fox, eh I might vote for pine. Not my top choice but passable. Slight scum read here...

Who's my favourite little turdshit, you are Feysal, you are. Awwww you're so cute trying to make me look like crap. I applaud you for your efforts you worthless, scum-sucking, discriminating, negligant, afflicted, calamitous, vile motherfucking bastard. I hope some day you may be able to eat feces like the piece of shit you are.

Damn, that's harsh, and the spelling is worse than mine!

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lynch norman guys. Let's just put him out of his misery. It would clear the air sooooo much.

I'd also like to point out that I've been scumhunting this whole fucking time, yet fuckface here doesn't acknowledge, again, oncemore. He maybe town but I'll hate his guts in any game I'll play with him. And also, I spelt all those words correctly except for probably negligant and calamitous. And to be honest they don't really spell bad.

[Norman]

@MOD: I will be V/LA until Monday due to the annual concert tour of my orchestra.

I shudder in advance at the thought of how many pages I will need to catch up on when I come back.

Real fucking nice, you even have it in your signature.

You haven't seen the last of me herring choker!

[Norman]

now, let's lynch cooldog.

Well, I don't care for those who mock me. So, after all this time of them being up my ass, I really don't care if they live. I want them to die. I want them to all die. They can call me names and shit but I don't give a shit about them anymore. It's all about my OWN survival now. Not theirs. I hate them. I don't care if I'm allying with scumbags, or neutrals, or even other town. I'm going against those who hate me and ME only.


This is not an OMGUS vote, this isn't a "whatever" vote, this isn't a sensible vote, it's a sincere hatred vote. And I intend to kill everyone with votes that mock me.

Heh, you can call me a traitor now and lynch me, but you know what? Atleast I never downgraded anyone's playstyle and told them to basically fuck off.
I'm sticking with the Cooldog vote.

I want you to die with all due respect, Cooldog and your comrades. Yeah I've grown insane, you can all die now.

Unvote: greenknight
Vote: CoolDog
Reason: He will die. I want him to.

(I'm coming for you afterwards GK.)

Who knows you might even be a scumbag.

[Norman]

Why is Empking and Avox town? And please do list your reasons Peregrine.

I'd like to know.

[Norman]

@LMP- Post 660

This isn't a training game, so the one-line responses seem contrived on your part.


And as for my quote specifically, CoolDog said on Post 311, "WTF, vig claim?????????????"
Norman says in post 315 "It wasn't a vig claim on myself. It was a vig claim towards the whole playerlist. And I think there is atleast one. And if the vigilante wishes to kill, I hope he kills Lemons, kondi, or any of the other 7 people I mentioned."
CoolDog then says in post 401, "How do we know that there is a vig? Why are we even speculating about it?"
Then I say in Post 558 "It was started by that CoolDog guy..."

Since vig was not mentioned anywhere else by enyone else between 311 and 401, how is that insane? (And I'm NOT counting you and Shadows little "dayvig" back and forth on page 15.)

Peregrine, why didn't you answer my questions as well? I asked you why you thought Avox and Empking were town, did you not see it?

[Norman]

What is with all this hate and name-calling? Are we fourth graders again? This is nothing but sheer chaos, spam, and more chaos! How is anyone supposed to get any scumhunting done amongst this?! Norman, you are making it really hard for me to stick to my 'no policy-lynching' policy. Feysal, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy are you feeding the flames?

I'll catch up to any questions directed at me later when I'm not fuming at the stupidity going on around me, yeah?

Well I wanted to ask Feysal a question but then herring choker punk thought it was ok to call me a retard while I clearly told him I was acting like one for game purposes only. Yet the shit used my way of playing as an example of being actually retarded. Sure the plan may have failed but that still doesn't give him the right to fucking use my accusations against him on his fucking signature!

And then there's briz saying, "Oh let's lynch Norm already because I think we don't need him!" Well fuck him too. And fuck you Mhork for getting into my business you Aussie prick being a hippy and saying, "Oh no my children, oh no chaos, spam and curse words = bad. Oh no don't do that. Oh no." In fact you scream scumbag to me the whole time you're saying posts only for somewhat seemingly "personal" purposes. You only want me around because you think I'm a goddamn VI and I'm basically a pawn for voting.

Well I'm not and I'll never be one!

In fact I think the people trying to protect me are basically scumbags! Probably CE at best! And it doesn't finish there. Oh no!

@norman, how could one vote for you and not be a scumbag?

Didn't I explain this a day or an hour ago? They would want to vote me because I seemed like an easy target. They want to blend in with the townspeople so that they woudn't get recognized as scumbags. If there isn't atleast 1 scumbag on there well then the reverse psychology effect obviously didn't work and I should've executed it later...

Don't take the negative. Under what situation could I vote for you and not be a scumbag? Apparently the answer is never. Correct? Because we are all trying to push an easy lynch right. Maybe it's an easy lynch for a reason. Because you are acting so damn scummy (as I have outlined before) that it would be stupid not to vote for you. Also, you do realize that acting stupid and putting everybody that has ever voted for you on your scum list hurts town and just creates a bunch of useless noise.

Also, this does not make any fucking sense to where

I

think is even logical in the fuking game. Even if you are town, like I said, you say I'm the one who shoud get lynched because of all my "noises." No, I'm actually scumhunting whether you believe it or not. And you bringing up support to lynch a townie is unconstitutional.

There, I've said enough, don't be mentioning me in any form or way, and don't even say anything about me.

Spoiler: Catchup Pages 5-Current

This is a mafiascum.net game, stop questioning my accusation techniques. And just for that I

think

you

might

a scumbag.

*My bold

Weasle-worded wishy-washy do nothing comment detected.

What about Feysal's argument swayed you? In my last post before the crash, I noted that you were rather overbearing in the way you backed up your argument and countered arguments about it. You seemed completely certain your way was the right way. What changed your mind.

The fact that I was completely wrong about cross-kills. I thought my plan would help them cross-kill each other, but it turns out that if they lie (which they have MASSIVE incentive to do) it actually GUARANTEES they can't cross-kill. So it went from an awesome idea to an absolutely TERRIBLE idea, thanks to Feysal's properly exposing the flaw.

Also, what about Rang Tangler screamed scum at you? You originally placed your real vote on him after he claimed to not have the intellectual capacity to contribute to the conversation, then offered up some possible roles based on alignment, and then claimed ambivalence on the argument but was intrigued.

How is this a scum tell?

Rang started off like this "I can't really contribute to this conversation, I'm not smart enough". Then later Rang makes a post about being "intrigued". Someone who is "intrigued" by the conversation, but wants to stay out of it and not engage in the discussion is someone who has something to hide and is afraid of giving something away by taking a stance. It looks like Rang is waiting to see how it shakes out before taking a stance. Which means trying to blend with town. Which means scum.

Also, if Rang is "intrigued" by it, Rang would have to have the intellectual capacity to understand it. And if Rang had that, then the earlier statement was a flat out lie.

So 2 fantastic reasons to suspect Rang as scum.

As for Tammy's introspection on LMP, I'd like to hear to what he has to say to after all this time of bickering and social war.

We need to rope this guy. If I didn't want Rang/kondi dead more, I'd be on this wagon.

Alright, then, LM. Who have you seen that is a potential partner?

It's 5 pages in, not everyone has seemed to have checked in yet, and we haven't found one confirmed scum. Can you explain to me the benefit or purpose of looking for partners right now?

QFT. Although it's not technically 5 pages, this point is still valid.

Feysal's 129 is good posting.
As is Zdenek's 140.

Shadoweh – so in regards to your second and third points –

2. Why exactly are you so strongly defending Mhork when he doesn’t have any significant votes ATM?
3. Your point here sounded better when ML made it at Post 126. Why are you parroting the person you look to be softly inferring is scum?

I also think your “I’m only going to pay attention to my target and give as little content as possible" stance sucks bilge-water and is totes scummy.

For ISO purposes ...

QFT.

Foxace's reaction super-defensive knee-jerk reaction to Jackal's vote on page 11 seemse scummy to me.

Alright... Foxace isn't a scum. I'm sure of it. Empking... might be a scumbag...

However, kondi is voting me because he thinks I'm buddying with Lemons...

Which means, kondi... Is either a misinterpreted townie, or a scumbag trying to blend in... Because I think YOU'RE a scumbag! So to even this thing out, EAT THIS!

Vote: Kondi

Reason: Shifty emotions.

I know you're shifty, don't even get me started.

This vote comes immediately following the vote count where Norman is the largest wagon, but kondi is just one vote behind.

As much as I love kondi votes, this vote STINKS LIKE SHIT.[/spoiler]

TOWN

Tammy
Feysal
MaguaofIllusion
Zdenek
Pine
Empking
Jackal711
greenknight
Y u no scum
Lord Mhork
ManiacalLemon
brizingre1
PeregrineV
CooLDoG
trekker
Skenvoy
Shadoweh
Mastermind of Sin
Guy_Named_Riggs
Haze
AurorusVox
Shadow1psc
Foxace36
kondi2424
Norman

SCUM

As always, this early in a game the poles are more accurate than the middle.

Unvote
Vote: Norman

We can come back to kondi tomorrow. Norman's last vote is cause for some death.

Why is Pine so far up that list, what has he done to make you think he is town?[/quote]

Alright, briz, you're defending Kondi. I can see it. Why did you defend Kondi when I wanted to vote Kondi not for an OMGUS vote but for some parts in the plan of my RP tactic which I later explained. So why did you defend him and instead vote me? Also your QFT doesn't seem that goddamn truthful to me because I'm town, please explain why the hell LMP is taking his ass off to try and persuade others why I'm a scumbag? Because most of the shit he says is basically word choice and gambling. Which I have no problem against but then why against all on me?

[Norman]

What I meant to say to briz was: Alright, briz, you're defending Kondi. I can see it. Why did you defend Kondi when I wanted to vote Kondi, not for an OMGUS vote but for some parts in the plan of my RP tactic which I later explained. So why did you defend him and instead vote me? Also your QFT doesn't seem that goddamn truthful to me because I'm town, please explain why the hell LMP is taking his ass off to try and persuade others why I'm a scumbag? Because most of the shit he says is basically word choice and gambling. Which I have no problem against but then why against all on me?

[Norman]

Why are these people ignoring my questions?! I want answers not fucking dismisses! Maybe the quiet people posting are town and the ones making bogus reasons are probably scumbags!

What a Sci-Fi thrill that'll be! Oh yeah it could be possible; those 'people' aren't reading what I have to say. I won't be surprised if every fucking person detailing large reasons of bullshit is scum.

Or atleast half of them, to which I have a paranoid suspicion of. Oh no, not because of my 'OMGUS' whatever votes, but how they react to my reactions toward it.

[Norman]

Norman, you're not a very likable person.

Well I hate people. Especially when they're retarded like this. Their opinions of me aren't facts, and they try to do this because they want information out of me. I'm not going to do that.

And btw, I think you're Cecil the Druid.

[Norman]

Trekker still failed to say why CooLDoG is scum. VOTE: trekker

thank you.

@trekker, tell me why I am lying about you. Also, quote where you have asked me a question or have made a substantive attack on me.

Trekker is a townie. He wouldn't have compassion for another townie if he weren't.

Therefore YOU are confirmed scum according to what trekker said.

[Norman]

Not going to be able to post for a couple of days and since I may be lynched during that time... Here are my last scum reads.....


MoI
CoolDog
Shadoweh
Pine
LynchMePls
Tammy

Why Tammy, LMP, CoolDog, please could you not go down the route of trekker and Norman and at least try to post your reasoning. And if I had to spend another day with Norman my head's going to explode.

I'm not that unlovable, am I?

[Norman]

Not going to be able to post for a couple of days and since I may be lynched during that time... Here are my last scum reads.....


MoI
CoolDog
Shadoweh
Pine
LynchMePls
Tammy

Why Tammy, LMP, CoolDog, please could you not go down the route of trekker and Norman and at least try to post your reasoning. And if I had to spend another day with Norman my head's going to explode.

I'm not that unlovable, am I?

Norman, if you actually want to help town
a) post less, like seriously a lot less
b) don't OMGUS everybody
c) Keep posting Paint cartoons

Then you will be very loveable.

Ok, I'll be what I was before. But people hated me even then D:

[Norman]

Vote: greenknight
Reason: Something I had posted before.

[Norman]

What about MoS? He doesn't seem to be an active scum hunter. Why are you almost exclusively attacking tammy for this.

That is a very good question.

Not it's not, since that isn't what I was doing. Considering that I'd answered CD's question before you made this comment, you are clearly misrepresenting what I've said.

LMFAO

I didn't even fucking read whatever it was you said, and I didn't put ANY spin on it. How am I "clearly misrepresenting" you?

Tammy, I'm still waiting for you to explain who my logic falls apart.

Erm...if your logic is as good as your grasp of English grammar, I don't think Tammy even needs to try.

MoS is scum or Cecil the Druid. I'm thinking Cecil... But idk.

[Norman]

Cecil the Druid is dead, Norman. He was the pre-game NPC. Please, please stop being a moron.

No, Cecil the Druid is what you think he is, if you believe.