Team Mafia: Pick Your Power (Game Over)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Kise

For being first in the draft.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Six was the most commonly selected number last draft.

Ergo, scum decided to double pick six on the logic that in no PYP game ever have scum doubled up on numbers. They got outwitted by two townies picking six as well. Therefore 2/4 6 picks are scum.

Vote: LadyLambdadelta

Start at the top, work your way down.

This is terribad logic.

Scum would both pick the same number, and sabotage their ability to gain powers?

Which is tantamount to handing over powers to the town?

Ya, no. Please insert another coin and try again.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, in the mafia PM we are given in the second post of the game, it confirms there are only 3 mafia.

So you're saying that 2/3 of the mafia in this game would BOTH pick 6, putting themselves further down the draft order?

With the potential of town ALSO picking 6, which is something you yourself suggested?

So you are suggesting that 2 scum deliberately removed themselves from being able to get powers, just for WIFOM?

Leaving only 1 scum potentially with power?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's great Amrun.

Who's scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[quote="Faraday"]I've learned lately sometimes the obvious answer is correct. /emo. And that's all I gotta say about that.[/quote

Occam's razor is equivalent to WIFOM in mafia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: And so the tag fail begins. Can you fix that Zora? Arigatou Gozaimasu

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote; Vote: Amrun

Opportunistic Voting + your posts making it look like you're providing content, but actually giving us no real idea on your stances.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Spy-kun is town god.

Faraday is null leaning town.

GI is scummy.

You are scum.

4 reads, 2 pages.

TADA~

Further, was there a reason you didn't place an RVS vote?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Grey essentially is an RVS vote.

He seems to stand out the most to me as of yet, so I voted. By no means am I sure he is scum.

I like to wait until everyone has posted before deciding on alignments with any amont of conviction.

NOPE!

Grey is NOT an RVS vote, because you stated he was behaving "Oddly" and then voted him for it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I guess it depends on your definition of RVS.

It isn't a truly serious vote.

Grey is acting oddly. I haven't decided yet if that means scummy or just oddly.

I decided to stick a vote on him because I wasn't voting anyone and for pressure.

I didn't do a "hey, hello, wassup" vote because there was already content being posted so what is the point?

I'm not apologizing for not having solid reads on page 1-2.

Dealwithit.jpg

So there's content, but you don't have any reads?

Hmmm

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And in my experience, grey does not take wagons seriously unless they start to grow a bit and I wanted his reaction, which is basically ruined now.

I still have no firm scumreads and I don't care if that makes me scum supposedly.

But this mini wagon on me has already been useful, reads-wise, better than the grey wagon, which is good.

P-edit: I do have reads, they are just not concrete. And I have no significant scumreads. I don't seee the merit in sharing my townreads so I won't.

This wagon has been helpful?

Has it given you any scum reads?

Certainly by now you should at least have an inkling, correct?

Or are you still comfortable in you GI vote?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Faraday: Please explain why Slaxx is town based solely on his first post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The Witch of Certainty will now use the glorious Red Truth in her attempt to achieve victory this game!

The alignment of a player cannot be determined from a single post!

The alignment of a player cannot be determined from a vote that is cast on another player without a flip!

Calling someone town holds equal and opposite meaning as calling someone scum!

Therefor, calling someone town based upon the first post they make and their first and only vote is not possible!

I do not feel good about Faraday calling Slaxx town based on that post.

But by my own logic, this is not enough to decisively to determine the alignment of Faraday.

IGMEOY: Faraday

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Isn't red supposed to be truth? Cos if you can't determine the alignment of a player from a single post you're doing it wrong.

Are you trying to say that one post in isolation is enough for you to determine intent of town or scum?

I do not agree. It is enough to give you an inkling to pursue a lead. Not enough for you to be able to state your town read with that amount of

certainty.

I would know. Certainty is my thing. ^-^

Jokes aside though, you aren't scum for calling him town, but it is worth keeping an eye on you for.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm torn in my heart of hearts because I agree with all your words but I was surprised at the Slaxx call too and these early wagons probably have a scum on them somewhere and, as you said, it aint me and it mos def aint lld - but I doubt its you too soooo

I aint in the business of

being an uncertain kitten.

I've been looking forward to this for like 3 months. I'm in go mode.

Oh You.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

^ Scum buddy #1 of Amrun?

Are they making it this easy?

Also, that's not a contradiction at all.

I'm saying one post IN ISOLATION cannot be used to determine intent.

I had 2 pages and interactions to be able to make my reads.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Further, if I am scum for those posts, where is your vote?

Afraid to commit to something this soon?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Spyrex's first post is mostly useless; all the scum could be sitting at the bottom, or all at the top. Totally random probability does not change based on past experiences. (There's a little bit in there about scum not doubling up which makes sense, but that's about it.)
Amrun's first post is NOT useless. That is valuable information that we should all keep in mind.

In other words:

"Here scumbuddy Amrun, let me try and earn you some town cred by discrediting Spyrex's post, and playing up yours!"

Even thought they were basically similar. Sorry, make that damn near identical.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Congratulations!

Scummy=/= scum.

If you payed attention to what I wrote, I said that inklings can be gained and ideas can be formed. But having CERTAINTY is something that cannot be achieved.

But you don't read. Or rather, you selectively read.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD have you played with quadz before?

No, and I don't believe in Meta.

Why is this relevant?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Isn't red supposed to be truth? Cos if you can't determine the alignment of a player from a single post you're doing it wrong.

Are you trying to say that one post in isolation is enough for you to determine intent of town or scum?

I do not agree. It is enough to give you an inkling to pursue a lead. Not enough for you to be able to state your town read with that amount of

certainty.

I would know. Certainty is my thing. ^-^

Jokes aside though, you aren't scum for calling him town, but it is worth keeping an eye on you for.

And here's where I outline it.

IN BOLD.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Congratulations!

Scummy=/= scum.

If you payed attention to what I wrote, I said that inklings can be gained and ideas can be formed. But having CERTAINTY is something that cannot be achieved.

But you don't read. Or rather, you selectively read.

I'm not trying to say you said scum. Just pointing out that you're walking a fine line of contradiction here, splicing hairs to call someone else scummy for something you have been very close to doing yourself several times.

Fine, I see your point.

But the fact remains that I maintain a clear distinction between "You are SCUM" and "You're acting scummy". They seem VERY similar, but they are entirely different.

One is MUCH more certain than the other.

And one, in my opinion, cannot be determined from a single post. The other can.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD have you played with quadz before?

No, and I don't believe in Meta.

Why is this relevant?

He's town. His team wouldn't entrust him with a scum PM.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lol? You have been figuring out teams, right?

When I said I don't use Meta, I meant it.

It's not worth basing opinions on really.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

GreyICE’s scum WIFOM argument is interesting but the only two players who have the stones to pull that sort of move are Hoopla and/or SpyreX. One of them flips scum and we can talk about the possibility, but I can’t see anyone else sabotaging themselves in that regard. Beyond that number speculation might, might be worthwhile later in the game with flips giving us some information to make assumptions on; right now pretty useless in my book.

LLD is all over the place for me, Amrun looks scummy, and quadz play doesn’t look good but I’m not sure that actually means anything with him.

Define: All Over The Place

It's rather vague in meaning.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Some things look extremely town; other things look extremely scummy.

Citation Needed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nice Misrep Quad.

I said Basically Similar and Damn Near Identical.

There are SMALL differences, but both posts are setup speculation and are based on the same principles.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

First off, could you sit on the fence any harder SSBF?

LLD is scum because she attacks Amrun! But she makes good points~!

Amrun is scum for the points LLD made~

Seriously, bro?

Secondly to answer your questions:

1) Are you saying it is antitown to try and create discussion and content? Also, since you agree with me that Amrun is scummy, how is my attacking him and pushing him here scummy?
You're spouting contradictions. This is what the question was designed to do. It was designed to get Amrun posting content and reads, so I could get a read on him. And he reacted scumily.

2) Are we seriously about to debate about why RVS exists? Learn to mafia. it creates discussion and reads. FURTHER, the reason for asking the question was to see what he would answer. If he had answered, " I don't think we need RVS, we have content already through setup speculation" I would have been slightly more satisfied.

Instead, he claims GI is his RVS vote. Which is total bullshit, because he voted GI based on a legitimate scum read he had voiced. So he's lying there. Further, when I asked him who scum was, (which was Point 1 in your case) he responded with "I don't have any reads at the moment".

Which is ALSO BS, because he had just expressed a scum read on GI when placing his vote on him. The "GI is playing oddly" comment is evidence of this.

3) Uh, SSBF? Do you know how to read? Maybe you should read the repeated posts where I not only denounce GI's Logic, but also call him scum.

FURTHERMORE, the GI post wasn't a read based on a single post like Faraday's was. It was a setup speculation read.

So the situations are entirely different ANYWAY, and your connection and "contradiction" isn't actually there.

So in recap, you are attacking me for:

1) Creating content and helping create reads on players for myself and others.
2)Putting pressure on a scumspect of mine to try and see what she would say.
3) A "contradiction" that is fabricated either by your inability to read, or your deliberate manifestation.

Case Debunk'd. Next?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, it has come to my attention that LLD favors scum roles, which makes me suspect her more, since if her team drew a scum role, I could totally see her taking it.

USO DA! YOU LIAR~!

First off, why don't you give a reference for this information. Give me a source?\

SECONDLY, Meta is BULLSHIT, because on the best of days it's WIFOM.

THIRDLY, YOUR META ISN'T EVEN CORRECT. I WILL GO FIND YOU CYS:A Monument of Sins.

A GAME IN WHICH YOU CHOOSE YOUR ALIGNMENT.

GUESS WHAT I CHOSE~?

I DARE YOU.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =3&t=17041

There you go. Meta of me CHOOSING Town over Scum.

So you just fucking made that up on the spot.

You're caught out, lying scum. I have no meta of PREFERRING scum roles.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

^Backtracking

"OH A TEAMMATE TOLD ME. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE".

BULLSHIT. APPARENTLY IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU TO BASE A CASE ON.

SO YOU BETTER NOT BACK DOWN NOW. YOU'VE BEEN DEBUNK'D, CAUGHT, AND ARE NOW TRYING TO SAVE YOURSELF.

TOO FUCKIN' LATE.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was a little wary of this feeling at first, wanting to make sure it wasn't just an annoyed OMGUS coloring my perception, but I'm certain it is more than this, now.

ITT Amrun admits he was afraid to vote me because he thought it would be called OMGUS.

Only scum is scared to voice their opinions.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD: They aren't Damn Near Identical. Period. No way, no how.

SSBF's post is bad. His point on GI has been made a jillion times, and his points on LLD are all poor. He gives decent reasoning for Amrun-scum, then backs off with "but I'm not certain about it." I agree with his conclusions, but his logic to get there was terribad.

Well... this is interesting.

Um, if Quadz was scum, why would he discredit the only real case that has been posted on me so far...

Heh. This post earns Quadz some town cred.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So far, Amrun has done the following:

10 Good Reasons Why Amrun is Scum

1)Posted Setup Speculation in an attempt to look more town.

2)Voted GI based on an apparent scum read, then backtracked when pressured, stating it was an RVS vote

3)Stated that she had no reads in the game currently when pressured, but then votes GI based upon a scum read.

4)States there is sufficient content in the game that RVS is not needed, but refuses to generate a read from said content. (If there was enough content, she should have a scum lead)

5)States that wagon on her has "given her good reads, and better reads than the GI wagon". SpyreX asks her to elucidate, and she provides the suggestion that "everyone currently
posting could be town". This is obvious appeasement and attempt to dismantle her wagon.

6)Until SSBF posted his case, Amrun was VERY quiet about attacking me. The second SSBF posts his case, Amrun agrees with him and proceeds to vote him. Never does she state on what points she agrees with him or why she does. She simply sheeps his case and votes me.

7)The only reasoning provided for the vote on me is META and GUT. There are NO FACTS or INTENT reads in the case. It's based on "Lambda seems forced" and "My team says Lambda likes Scum PMs".

8)Amrun blatently LIES about a meta read on me, in an attempt to build a stronger case on the next biggest wagon besides his own, and sheep SSBF further. (The meta was proven false
when I posted the CYS link, a game in which I was able to choose my alignment and chose TOWN.)

9)Amrun states DIRECTLY that she was afraid that if she voted me earlier, it would be OMGUS. This is not a town thought. Town votes their scumspects regardless of "OMGUS" claims.

10)Amrun BACKTRACKS on both her meta claim and the OMGUS accusation. In the case of the Meta Claim, she blames FALSE INTEL GIVEN TO HER BY HER TEAM.

This is why Amrun is scum. ALL of this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Now that I have condensed the Amrun case in to 10 easy to read bullet points, are there any questions?

Any one want to try and DISPROVE anything up here? I'm MORE than willing to show you quotes for EVERY. SINGLE. FACT. That exists here.

And I will explain and answer ANY question that is posed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@GI: A graph? Seriously? Bloody hell.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Quadz, any comments on my Amrun case?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Amrum, I enjoy how you cutout half of my post in that quote.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What the hell happened to the Amrun wagon?

Don't you dare fucking abandon me now. We have caught scum. She dies TODAY.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You're not.

Quadz is slightly more townie that he was originally due to his post about how bad SSBF's case was.

But he burns that town cred immediately when he admits I have a good case on Amrun, but continues to vote me...

So he needs Rope.

Papa Zito is oddly quiet. So he's a good place to look.

SSBF posts one terribad case and then LEAVES. So THAT needs some rope.

But Amrun is the worst of all and he's NOT getting off the hook today.

So yes, you're totally right.

But I'm MORE right.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You call it an impasse.

I call it a noose.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What breakdown?

You mean that thing where you said "this is wrong" for everything and basically provided shit reasons?

Yeah I read it. No need to dignify it with a response.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Amrun dies.

Today.

No excuses.

She's probably the scum's only POwer Role.

SSBF dies tomorrow.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

GI, why would scum not want the GunSmith role?

Cause I see a few good reasons.

1)It helps scum find the vigs (and the goon cop?).

2)It looks significantly more townie that picking a Vig.

CONFIRMED ROLE DOES NOT EQUAL CONFIRMED ALIGNMENT.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, Amrun and GI are buddies.

Actually it does Amrun.

Because had you chosen vig or tracker or something, you would not have gotten it very likely.

It's the PERFECT choice for you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@DDD: Amrun is scum. I'm positive of it. Her posts do not come from town.

So I'm not using that line as reasoning why she is scum.

I'm saying Amrun is scum, therefor this is likely.

Understand? The logic is entirely based upon Amrun-scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

However, I was mistaken in assuming that scum would only chose gunsmith if they had no power roles above them.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The logic for you chosing Gunsmith as town?

Perfect Sense.

The Logic for you being the only scum Power Role?

Not so much. I'll admit I wasn't thinking straight when I came to that conclusion.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I want SSBF dead more than I want GI dead.

But frankly, I'm happy with either. GI has been bad this game.

Unvote; Vote: GI

THIS IS L-1. NO ONE HAMMERS WITHOUT A CLAIM.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SSBF is sitting on dat fence.

LLD IS SCUMZORS.

BUT I AGREE WITH LLD ABOUT AMRUN.

I THINK ONE OF THEM IS SCUM, BUT ONLY ONE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT AMRUN~~~~~~

Yeah. He's scum. Or VERY VERY VERY VERY dumb.

Of course, his team this game is Team Vigbait, so it's not surprising.

Also, Popmobile McTurboCunt: Claim or Die.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, you can get over yourself.

I can get over MYSELF?

This is coming from YOU?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"out the goon cop"?

Thats exactly what they're supposed to do? Exactly it. No teehee, no "ohh gosh wait for more things". Find a scum get them lynched, profit.

Dude. He's so fucking obviously scum it's not even funny. Here's how we out him: We lynch him, he flips red, the end. We can save the power role for someone a tad less obvious (that'd probably be the entire fucking scum team).

But SpyreX, I have a question for you: Why would scum-Faraday bus on day 1? What would scum be doing with no power role, a goon cop, and no real hope of living past day 3?

PEdit: Yes, LLD. Get over yourself.

You first, you self righteous bastard.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: SSBF

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That then throws out your groupings

, as LLD has to be included.

FoS: Prana

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That then throws out your groupings

, as LLD has to be included.

FoS: Prana

Why? Because I pointed out that said groupings are meaningless when they are produced in such a way to almost be fact, when they're not and are ommitting posibilities? Nope, sorry.

Hey! Here's a chance to discredit ALL of Spyrex's conclusions based upon ONE minor detail~!

Because me being left off his pairings list changes his conclusions entirely RIGHT~?

Because if I was on the list, I would totally be a top scum pick of Spy-kun's, RIGHT~?

Yeah. No. You're trying to discredit Spy-kun based on ONE minor detail that has NO BEARING on the rest of his reads.

That's scummy.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm uneasy about claiming. I feel like scum would gain more out of it than town would.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

GreyICE is stupid.

This is why Quadz is town. I'm totally willing to outguess like a champ. Unless his team got 4 scum pm's there's no way he's not town.

This is stupid.

Massclaim is stupid.

fffffffff

VOTE: Prana

Someone explain the SSBF wagon.

Step 1: Read his ISO (won't take you long, only 4 posts)
Step 2: Read his only 2 content posts again.
Step 3: Click on the Links to those 2 posts.
Step 4: Read the reactions and debunking of said cases.
Step 5: See his lack of response to any questions, focusing only on a defense of his precious case.
Step 6: Watch him lurk.
Step 7: ???
Step 8: Profit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm actually rather uneasy about a quadz lynch right now.

I REALLY don't like the people on his wagon.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SSBF is a good secondary lynch, but he's 7th in the draft. There's absolutely no chance he's the highest ranked scum (and that's without the fact that for that to be the case the scum have to have picked the same first number at least twice).

Ergo, finding the scum ABOVE him is much more important, and that's either Quadz or you Kise. (Hoopla at a very slim push, but I've no reason not to believe her at the moment). Of the two of you, Quadz is most likely scum. Thus we lynch Quadz.

But I don't like how the Quadz wagon is being used to draw attention away from SSBF.

So, no. SSBF dies today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fuck this.

Unvote; Vote: Prana

The above post is terribad. "I HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE THAN YOU, SO YOU LISTEN TO ME HERP".

No.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, I'm saying, actually listen to EVERYONE who has more experience in this style of game than you.

What you're saying is that the numbers are meaningless.

THIS IS KNOWN TO BE FALSE.

Either you are scum, or playing like shit as town.

You ballsed it up royally for us in CYS, don't do the same here by pretending you don't need to listen to those who have played PYP before.

The Ad Hom is noted.

The bolded Misrepresentation is noted. I have never stated such a thing. They are important.

But lynching scum is more important.

And frankly, you haven't given a real case on Quadz yet. All it's been is "HERP HE'S HIGH ON THE LIST, LET'S LYNCH HIM".

Show me why he's scum based on gameplay, and I'll give it more credence.

But scumhunting > all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Either you are scum, or playing like shit as town.

OOH.

I almost missed the false Dichotomy and deliberate attempt at discrediting me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And as a final note: You have no right to talk about CYS, considering your own play in that game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is amusing.

Prana is perfectly content to go along with pseudo-supporting an SSBF lynch and call me town.

Until I start to attack him.

At which point he does a 360 and I'm now scum with Quadz(because he can't change that read, or he'd be TOO obvious scum) and DDD.

SSBF can be dealt with another day. Prana is scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, when did Quadz ever defend me from an attack?

He agreed that SSBF's case was bullshit... but in the same post continued to call me scum.

This is further misrepresentation of the facts on your part.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

He discredited the case=/= he defended me.

You'll note he calls me scum in the same post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prana, why is Quadz scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

THIS IS BUUULLSHIIT.LYNCH THE MOTHERFUCKING SMASH BROS, STOP GIVEM SCUM TIME TOCOAST THROUGH SUSPICION

Don't worry. He dies tomorrow.

But Prana needs to die. Today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait, what LLD isn't town Prana?

Yeah. You missed that?

He started calling me scum immediately after I voted him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

haha sorry tI've not slept in 24 hours and have had a few drinks.

Sounds like a party~

[Lady Lambdadelta]

She's either scum deliberately ignoring stuff that is actually useful in favour of not having to lynch scum buddy Quadz (See:

Her refusal to vote anywhere bar SSBF

, despite the fact that there's scum above SSBF that is more dangerous, and her subsequent ignoring of the fact that the lower scum are on the list, the less likely they are to have a role, and hitting scum with roles is much better than scum without roles).

Or, she's town playing badly by refusing to listen to anything of actual use in favour of "My scum reads are more important than anyone elses experience of the game".

Oh Yeah. I totally won't vote anyone but SSBF.

That's why my vote is on you right now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And Prana, guess what?

My scum reads? They're more important to me than anyone elses. I will make my own reads and I will not be controlled by anyone else.

Further, it's not like you even had a real case on quadz. Like, until I pushed you for it, it was non-existent.

And your current case on him is weak at best.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, my scum reads are infinitely more important to me than your setup speculation.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm actually rather uneasy about a quadz lynch right now.

I REALLY don't like the people on his wagon.

Myself and Prana? I don't recall you being anti-me. Can you explain this to me?

That post juts out at a weird angle to me.

"Don't like the people on his wagon"

is empty propaganda, devoid of reason and in this case, doesn't represent what the quadz wagon actually is - two people. Stating it in that manner reads like you're opposing more than you actually are. Can you also explain your town read (I assume this is what it is) on quadz?

I thought it was Prana and Zito on Quadz's wagon. My bad.

No, I don't have a negative opinion of you. You're null-leaning town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, it's not so much a town read as it is a "There's no way this person is scum with the other suspects I have" read.

I will not say that Quadz has been a protown force. He's not. But I have much stronger scum reads, and these scum reads don't mix with Quadz!scum.

Does that make sense? I'm trying to explain this as clearly as possible, but if you're still confused I'll try again.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I thought it was Prana and Zito on Quadz's wagon. My bad.

No, I don't have a negative opinion of you. You're null-leaning town.

Does this alter your perception of the quadz wagon?

I still don't like Prana being on it.

The way Prana was on the wagon is just as meaningful as him... being on the wagon.

As I explained, Quadz certainly hasn't endeared himself as a town force. I can see why people would be suspicious. I am too.

But as I explained above, Quadz!scum doesn't work well with SSBF!scum. Or Prana!scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If SSBF is scum, I like Prana and Papa Zito as scum buddies.

If SSBF is town, I still think SpyreX is town, but I do agree that DDD has been less than stellar this game. I'm keeping an eye on him at the moment, but he's done nothing overtly scummy.

The third question is going to remain unanswered for the moment. It does not benefit the town at this moment in time. If you push me, I'll give a more elaborate answer, but I would prefer to keep my silence for the time being. Know that I will come back at the proper time and answer this question for you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hold on.

Why doesn't Quadz scum and SSBF scum work together? Serious question, what have they done that shows that they can't be scum together?

You yourself quoted the post when I talked about it.

Quadz totally discredited SSBF's entire case, calling it crap.

If they were scum really looking for a push on me, it's more likely quadz would have been neutral to mildly agreeing with the case.

But to do what he did was not something scum does to another scums case.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD 299... what? where in the world did you get the idea that Amrun was scum's only PR? Pushing big wagon with weak reasoning? CHECK.

I already said that this was a mistake on my part and rectified that claim. I was on a wrong track entirely.

But what IS interesting is how you say I'm pushing a big wagon with weak reasoning... and fail to comment on my 10 point case which was fairly STRONG reasoning.

Hmmm.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh I'm sorry. I got into a rage fight in [redacted].

Claim: Vanilla Townie

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I chose tracker, because I thought everyone above me would be grabbing for the Vigs and Roleblocker/Jailkeeper.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This plan is ignoring Prana.

I disapprove.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Slaxx is the N3 vig?

Clearly he has shown he can't be trusted with this power.

We will be controlling his shot tomorrow. To hell with his "hard-on".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm running a fever right now folks. I'll do my best to post some content either tonight or tomorrow, but I'm not feeling great.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote; Vote: SSBF

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD was aggressive in BloodBath in Camden and

seemed really town there too

. Hint: she was scum.

Not buying LLD town.

Someone's a little bitter, nyaa~.

Teehee, is your only argument META Slaxx-kun~?

Because it seems to me as if you are saying I appear town. The bolded is tantamount to this.

So TELL me Slaxx-kun. Why am I scum~?

I want cases with citations and reasoning. I want scum INTENT and not this meta bullshit.

Oh, and be warned~. Failure to satisfy these conditions or prove conclusively why I am scum will result in the town directing your precious vig shot tomorrow.

^-^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

In response to Faraday:
Very poor logic
Strong reactions / emotions and yelling at the beginning of the game, which have since died down after people called her scummy for it
I think she's whiteknighting me at this point, tbh.

Very poor logic.

All right. Let me clear something up for you~.

You've done dick all this game but sit around and be a hindrance to town.

You have no right to claim THAT. So go back to being useless.

Secondly, What is this about my emotions dying down? ^-^

Thirdly, you're town. You're a horrible, horrible, terrible, awful town. But you're town. Kinda like when Chesskid or Vezok is town. You know it, but you don't want to admit it.

It's that kind of town.

Any OTHER questions? Or should I continue to look at your non existent case with no citations?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am VEHEMENTLY against the shooting of Spy-kun.

I would much prefer a Prana shot if SSBF is scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ALSO.

WHAT DERP DECIDED THAT SSBF AND QUADZ WERE SCUM TOGETHER?

DIDN'T I DISPROVE THAT ALREADY?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

These shots are dumb.

Zito, if SSBF flips town, shoot Faraday.

If SSBF flips scum, shoot Prana.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't know who decided that Spyrex was a good shot, but they're going on some kind of scum list.

And the person who suggested that Quadz and SSBF are scum together is ALSO going on that scum list.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

FoS: Hoopla

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fuck it. This SSBF lynch is stupid. I can't get behind it now when people are making these plans for tonight that are pure lunacy.

Unvote; Vote: Hoopla

[Lady Lambdadelta]

FUCK THE NUMBERS GAME.

I'M NOT GETTING INTO A PERCENTAGE MECHANIC WITH YOU.

I'M PLAYING THIS GAME ON READS. THIS NUMBERS BULLSHIT IS DISTRACTING AND ANTI-TOWN.

PEOPLE, HOOPLA DIES. TODAY.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How the hell do LLD and I agree on I think all of our reads?

FFFFFF.

(LLD, I am fully aware I'm playing terribly this game. Just fyi.)

P-Edit: Look at SpyreX still being town.

[offtopic]Ahhh.... shit.

See, when players say things like "I know I'm playing bad" or "I'm trying to get better" I always feel a twinge of guilt.

Yeah, I'm sorry. You're nowhere near as bad as I said you were. Everyone strives to improve at this game and anyone who says they are always right is lying to themselves.

Keep on truckin', etc. [/offtopic]

Can we kill Hoopla now?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Marry me LLD. Together we can make a better world.

This game is being steered in the wrong direction by a scum force.

I'm merely righting the ship a little.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Let's lynch SSBF. The PR's have pretty much been co-ordinated. Kise should try block the nightkill via roleblock. The vig should shoot (prana really). The pr's should try and catch who they think is scum.

Co-Ordinated by WHOM?

The scum team who is using it to their best intrest?

Neither Quadz OR Spyrex is scum.

Sorry, red flags go WOOSH.

It ain't happening.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SPYREX.

ZITO.

FRIENDS. ROMANS. TOWNIES.

LEND ME YOUR VOTES.

THE TIME IS UPON US TO RID OURSELVES OF THE SCOURGE OF HOOPLA-SCUM.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

3 POINTS OF GLORY

1) NUMBERS AS A SCUM HUNTING METHOD

It's false. It's a bunch of probability shit that is based upon certain unconfirmed assumptions. Assumptions that Hoopla is enforcing on this town. Hoopla is clearing people and labeling people scum based upon numbers, which is a great way to look like you're scum hunting, not have to give any reasoning for scum intent, not get questioned AND have people not be able to fight back.

2) SPYREX AND QUADZ ARE BOTH TOWN

Yeah, Hoopla pushing these vig shots screams scum. It's obvious to any townie that SSBF and Quadz aren't scum together. And if any townie wants to try and tell me that Spy-kun is scum with a straight face, they're lying. These shots are horrible and scum driven.

3) WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE?

Hoopla is supposed to be a scary player. Catching scum left and right, or demolishing as scum. And yet, from her I've only seen number speculation. Where is the scum hunting? It doesn't exist. Hoopla has tried to pass off her number games as scum hunting, and I'm NOT BUYING IT.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh... 1) and 3) were supposed to be different.

1) is saying Numbers are distracting town and forwarding scum agendas.

3) is saying that Hoopla isn't scum hunting, but only using numbers to hide it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gut town read on Slaxx.

As for SSBF, read his iso. Really, you don't see it? Really?I'm kinda shocked.

No.

Scum Buddy #2 to Hoopla.

I swear, this might make Prana and SSBF town at this rate...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And yes Faraday, I've had enough of your LET'S PUSH IT THROUGH BECAUSE IT'S THERE AND HE'S SCUM arguments.

Make the case on SSBF or watch Hoopla die.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SPYREX.

DON'T YOU DARE DO THIS TO ME.

HOOPLA DIES TODAY.

SSBF IS NOT SCUM WITH FARADAY AND HOOP.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

3) WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE?

Hoopla is supposed to be a scary player. Catching scum left and right, or demolishing as scum. And yet, from her I've only seen number speculation. Where is the scum hunting? It doesn't exist. Hoopla has tried to pass off her number games as scum hunting, and I'm NOT BUYING IT.

That's the exact same method that saw be 100% correct in PYP4 (I didn't vote for a single townie all game) and mostly correct in PYP3. I was correct about Amrun being town, I got Grey wrong on a Day 1 wagon without flips - but THAT'S ALL THAT'S HAPPENED. The fact that this game has descended into chaos when I was about to get a plan going strongly suggests to me that I'm on the right track. But even IF I'm wrong, the plan gives us enough information, and locks down enough players to give us the scumteam.

It's the most rational method of playing.

Yeah, but you aren't town this game, are you?

So this is kind of a pointless argument to make.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

There is a plan.

You get lynched.

You are town, shoot SSBF.

You are scum, shoot Faraday.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, add Appeasement to the reasons why Hoop is scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Zito;

If SSBF is town, you shoot SpyreX.
If SSBF is scum, you shoot quadz.

Flexible. Yep.

See, it gives the appearance of flexibility... But in reality it's not.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm pushing for your lynch.

By appeasing me, you avoid a scum lynch, get your mislynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hard to chill out when I'm running 101 degrees F Fever.

But I agree. A plan is important. It needs to involve hoopla being dead.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You're too good for that kind of reaction Hoopla.

If you had attacked me I'd have given it town credence actually. No, this calculated answer to every question is more of a null tell, I figure scum Hoopla does it just as well as town hoopla.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Misrep noted.

Most of it isn't null. That one reaction is null.

The scummy part comes from your actions prior to me voting you. As I outlined.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gah.

Prana and Hoopla aren't scum together...

SSBF/Prana/????
or
Hoopla/Faraday/????

That's what I'm thinking right now.

But Hoopla>SSBF lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My head hurts ;_;

[Lady Lambdadelta]

5.

I don't agree with the SSBF part of it entirely.

Well, actually.

Explain why SSBF belongs there.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Make that a 6z

[Lady Lambdadelta]

As part of the group.

I know the arguments for SSBF scum in iso. I made Many of them myself.

I want to know how he fits with Hoopla/Faraday scum.

Forgive my illness, but "tinfoil"?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would hazard a guess at DDD or Slaxz being thirdZ but that's kinda ubfoundee

It's not about playstyle. It's about how the playstyle is being utilized in a scummy streamrolling way.

I have asked DGB about you. I was warned that she can't read you to save her life. Big help. :3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ubfoundee <3

Oh god, I'm losing my mind.

"Unfounded"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The compromise I will make is this.

If SSBF flips town, shoot Hoopla.
If SSBF flips scum, shoot Prana.

That's my compromise, if you want your SSBF lynch. Are you so sure he is scum, that you will lay your life on the line for it?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I gave my ultimatum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm only appeasing my own throbbing brain at this point Hoopla. Best to remember that.

And no. No "lynch me if"'s. SSBF lynch, he flips town, you get Zito's bullet to the head.

If SSBF is scum, Prana.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you take the bullet tonight, and you flip town (remember, this means SSBF flipped town too) I am doing reevaluation.

Who would you suggest then? If both you and SSBF are town, who is scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, does it seem like I'm in a condition where jokes would work with me? ;_;

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you take the bullet tonight, and you flip town (remember, this means SSBF flipped town too) I am doing reevaluation.

Who would you suggest then? If both you and SSBF are town, who is scum?

Reevaluation = not listening to me.

SpyreX/quadz/Faraday is the likeliest combination, with DDD maybe in for Spy and Zito maybe in for Faraday and Prana maybe in for quadz. Which obviously blows your mind.

That's great Hoopla.

Any 3 of these 6 is scum~ GOOD LUCK.

Way to be non-committal as hell.

PS: it hurts @_@

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Go fuck yourself Prana.

You are the one who is acting like he is "holier than thou".

Numbers aren't that important to me because it is a good way for scum to wifom the fuck out of town and send them down the wrong fucking road.

So go call the waambulance and talk to someone who cares.

You're useless really when all you're gonna yell about is this.

How about you actually start scum hunting?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh Yeah Slaxx was scum.

OH was he scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I like how Regfan is still trying to push that it would be my meta to choose Scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prana, consider this:

The scum team considers that certain roles are more important than others.

The realize that if they choose vig with a high number, they will be labeled more likely scum.

So they choose a role that looks less suspicious, but gives them an advantage. Like Tracker or Role Cop or GunSmith.

And with a scum who is at #13, it's very unlikely they will get a power role.

So what does the scum team do?

They have the #13 person go for Day 3 Vig, with the off chance it MIGHT slip there. Reasoning being:

1) #13 player as scum has NOTHING TO LOSE from choosing Night 3 Vig.
2) If they DO get N3 Vig, they look much less suspicious for choosing it (as you yourself have proven by trying to use that defense)

So yes, I HAVE considered what you proposed.

And yes it DOES make sense for scum to do that, if they place preference of other roles over the Vigs.

And we can't know what scum would make a preference.

So neither of us can refute the possibility of the others argument.

So we fall back on SHOCK, Scum Reads.

See how that works, baka~?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Which essentially has been what I have been saying all along.

The speculation about roles, numbers and probabilities all must rely on some ASSUMPTIONS you make.

We cannot GUARANTEE these assumptions.

Therefor, the speculation and number probabilities you post can never be guaranteed as true, nor can they be accepted as the truth.

See how that works?

See why I refuse to think about the numbers game?

Because it's a lot of false certainty.

And I would know about certainty. ^-^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ITT Regfan implies I am a strong scum player.

ITT Regfan implies he can read me within 12 hours of replacing in as scum, using meta as an aid.

LOGICAL INCONSISTENCIES, YEP.

If I'm so great at scum, how did you catch me so easily?

And if I'm so stupid, how can I be good at scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

... I was proud of that fake scum slip thank you.

And are people seriously going to try and use that game as reference?

Did you take that from your team/scum QT?


Also, your arguments are STILL only meta. I see NO intent behind your arguments. You're basically implying I'm scum because... I'm scum.

Good Job, Regfan. Continue to be horrible at this game, no please. Don't let me stop you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's pretty clear YOU are the one who isn't reading.

I believe I said my opinion on Faraday. Several times. Pairing him with Hoopla.

This is also my first PYP game, as has been pointed out.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Regfan, kiss my ass. Have YOU played a PYP before?

No, they did not inform me.

If Hoola is town, Faraday is very likely town in my eyes.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think Regfan is really whittling away some of LLD's credibility. SpyreX; what's your take on the Regfan/LLD back and forth?

*twitch*

You see it too? Awesome. Can we lynch it?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prana's Game:

Step 1) NUMBERSNUMBERSNUMBERSNUMBERS
Step 2) Try and lead town with Step 1 only, and no real attempt at scum hunting.
Step 3) Anyone who disagrees with him is a "horrible player".

See: Him attacking me, Papa Zito.

I love how he thinks he's the shit. It's cute and delusional.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can see numbers being used as some kind of GUIDE to help you look in the right places for scum.

But to be lynching someone solely based on number theory....
To make a vig shot based solely on number theory...

Is ridiculous.

You say that if SSBF is scum, Faraday is obvious scum.

Explain how SSBF and Faraday are linked. Use numbers and I'll ask again. I want an actual scum intent reason why these two are scum together.

You yourself said that you don't believe SSBF is scum, but you want to lynch him on the off chance you are wrong.

So you're lynching a town read... Based on what? Numbers, what else?

You're delusional because you aren't actually playing the game. You're trying to play the numbers. And while numbers can provide places to LOOk for scum, you cannot say "player XYZ is scum because number theory~!"

So, I want this answered.

2 questions.

1) How are Faraday and SSBF/Ani scum together? What links them?

2) If you have a town read on SSBF, why are you lynching him?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, and the height of your arrogance comes when you start claiming that one of you or the people who agree with you HAVE to be the scum kill tonight.

PUH-LEASE. Get OVER yourself.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fuck you Papa Zito.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you're voting, you're a massive retard.

We're not lynching today, sorry.

To be clear, are you claiming that Zito visted two people last night Prana? Are you saying you TRACKED ZITO?

Also, all other claims are to be coughed up now. I want to know exactly what occured last night.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OOPS IT'S MYLO.

OOPS, PRANA ISN'T CONFIRMED TOWN.

For those of you who are dense(Prana) that means we can't trust your investigation at face value because, HERP DERP, you could be lying.

All it takes is one more mislynch and it's game over.

So you pushing so hard for this lynch today is +1 scum points. Only scum would want to avoid an NL today and getting more info.

After all, you can't be RB'd anymore RIGHT~?

So you're gonna get SOME kind of result.

And that result can only help us.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD hasn't been playing well this game anyway, so her saying no lynch is ridiculous.

Kise and Zito are voting me, which they need to do (doubley so now I've caught Zito, though note how Kise was quick to hit me hard despite the fact that he's been pro-me all game, he knows he could get support from LLD without much effort).

DDD is obviously voting no lynch (It's that or vote me as well, and lol at him doing that after his buddies are on my wagon).

We need to get to lynching the scums, and a no lynch is stupid today. Especially as we still gain more information after tonight, but at this stage,

allowing the scum to take out myself or Hoopla without losing someone themselves is a shit move.

Shame we lost RegFan though, we could have finished this earlier by having him take out DDD or Kise tonight after we lynch Zito.

Hey? Scum kill you and you flip town tracker? Zito is then confirmed scum.

Yeah, you're lying through your teeth to try and get this lynch, and it's unnerving me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DDD is obviously voting no lynch (It's that or vote me as well, and lol at him doing that after his buddies are on my wagon).

It is pretty obvious since I'm not the sort of player to make unneeded assumptions

or with the ego to pretend I'm smarter

that I am and turn down free information.

Nail has been hit on the head. Repeatedly.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Except waiting when tomorrow we'll DO THE EXACT SAME THING is stupid.

Scum tomorrow just kill someone in the 6s (Faraday most likely), then convince you to vote me or Hoopla (as you're more than likely going to do because you're not paying the blindest bit of attention to logic in this game, and y'know... I want us to WIN the damned game), and they can all pile the votes on to get an easy win. With the current standing it requires TWO people to be a bit dim and willing to piss the game away.

Guess what? Zito is scum, lynch the fucker. Stop pretending you know what you're doing in this game,

you helped push SSBF stupidly hard and I stated he was town.

OH LOOK HE WAS! You wanted to lynch Hoopla... OH LOOK SHE'S TOWN. Your track record this game is shit. I called DDD scum previously at least, and I lured scum into allowing Zito to fire both shots by saying they were confirmed town due to the vigs being down there. Thus I could catch them at their own game (or 100% clear Zito if it turned out he wasn't scum, but oh look, he is!)

Today we vote Zito, tomorrow we vote DDD, then we vote Kise. We do not deviate from this plan. This plan = we win, 100%.

I will draw your attention to the vote count at the end of yesterday.

I was voting Hoopla and pushing Hoopla HARD.

You on the other hand were voting SSBF, contributing to his lynch, and yet have the AUDACITY to say "I TOLD YOU SO"?

Nope. Sorry. Not buying it.

I would vote you right now, but frankly we need to NL because the info is more important right now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prana, my play isn't what you should be worried about. I'd be more worried about your own.

Considering that you helped lynch some you had a "strong town read" on. You admitted that you thought he was town and yet you let him be lynched without a single complaint.

Especially when YOUR name was brought up as an alternative at one point.

So, you're actually the worst player in this game currently, and have no right to judge MY play, because your own has been beyond horrendous(see: Voting town read above).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And for the love of god stop acting like your investigation confirms Zito as scum to the rest of us. If we had a mislynch, we'd all be on the wagon and lynching Zito right now, because we'd be willing to do the potential 1 for 1.

But it's mylo. So we can't. Get over your damn self.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fuck the vote count. I had a choice of lynching Hoopla OR SSBF.

That was it, there was no other choice presented at the time.

Are you suggesting I should have allowed my most solid town read to be lynched over a slightly lesser town read? Fuck off.

I spent ALL of yesterday saying "SSBF isn't scum". Don't fucking pretend I didn't. YOU KNOW THAT'S THE FUCKING TRUTH.

It's called STARTING A NEW FUCKING WAGON.

It's easy~! Wanna see an example? Take my creation of a wagon on Hoopla. I voted her, called her scum (I still believe this BTW) and voila~, wagon.

You could have done this with ANY of your scum reads. ANY OF THEM.

YOU CHOSE NOT TO. YOU MADE THAT CHOICE.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No LLD, you're playing like shit. Guess what? I've now got the entire scum team down. 100%. I'm going to guarentee that. Without fail. If I'm wrong, blacklist me. Now fucking stop pretending your some sort of god's gift to the game, and actually play PYP properly.

I wish you'd replace out and let someone competant replace in.

Will you GIVE UP THE FUCKING PERSONAL ATTACKS ALREADY?

LIKE, DO YOU WANT THIS DAY TO BE ABOUT ME VERBALLY ABUSING YOU?

BECAUSE I'M CONTENT TO DO THAT ALL DAY, YOU ASININE, EGOTISTICAL, SELF-RIGHTEOUS PIECE OF SHIT.

IN THE END, WE

ARE GOING TO NO LYNCH TODAY.

YOU HAVE NO SAY IN THIS.

SUCK UP YOUR GOD DAMN PRIDE AND FUCKING GET OVER YOURSELF.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No LLD, you're playing like shit. Guess what? I've now got the entire scum team down. 100%. I'm going to guarentee that. Without fail.

If I'm wrong, blacklist me

. Now fucking stop pretending your some sort of god's gift to the game, and actually play PYP properly.

I wish you'd replace out and let someone competant replace in.

Done.

2nd

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh my god you infuriate me Prana.

I had like, the happiest day of my life so far yesterday, and I was riding that happy wave into today until I had to deal with your shit.

Get out of my face and stop being an asshole, and getting me riled up.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If Hoopla were scum, she could just have targetted ANY random Vanilla and said "He came up Goon"

. Auto-win for scum at that point. The fact she didn't do that point to Hoopla-town.

Why are you clearing Hoopla based upon this logic, but yelling at us for suspecting you when you claim a guilty (equivalent to a guilty) in this situation?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I say LLD.

Let's play "let's pretend".

We no lynch today. Scum kill Faraday.

Tomorrow we're left with:

Kise
Prana
Quadz
Hoopla
DDD
LLD
Zito

ANY results from myself and Hoopla are STILL unconfirmed and useless at that point.

Are you suggesting that the "additional information" from Myself and Hoopla will change your opinion of either of us?

No, they wont. So either piss the game away and vote me, or actually try and win by voting Zito.

You will be forced to give a result.

Mafia is forced to kill.

Lots of things can occur, and it helps give opinions.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If Hoopla were scum, she could just have targetted ANY random Vanilla and said "He came up Goon"

. Auto-win for scum at that point. The fact she didn't do that point to Hoopla-town.

Why are you clearing Hoopla based upon this logic, but yelling at us for suspecting you when you claim a guilty (equivalent to a guilty) in this situation?

I want this answered BTW.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That doesn't answer my question really.

Why are we (according to you) supposed to just assume you aren't lying and lynch Zito, when you yourself admit that a scum move would be to come out today and claim a guilty (which is what you did)?

You are talking in circles, and missing the point that this question entirely.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OH PLEASE.

I-I'm no kitten...

I a-am being careful with my v-vote...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Prana, scum wouldn't kill LLD, just Faraday? No. FFS Hoopla please do something with DDD. He has heat and if town can be viewed as a mislynch. Force scum to factor that in tonight. LLD, we're still going to be at prana and zito. I'm willing to lynch either -

feeling like zito first, just so prana can miraculously survive the night and explain to us why. Nice of you to ignore my point, Prana.

You do know we ARE IN MYLO RIGHT?

We only get one shot at this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I-I don't think th-that Kise understand our situation...

Umu... I guess I will keep trying to e-explain....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Umu... but a k-kitten should always be l-loyal to h-her master...

A-and I thought I was Zito and Kise's kitty, nyaa~?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

K-Kise~?

A G-g-good kitten knows when her master is upset...

Are you mad, master~? P-Please allow m-me to he-help~!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I-I understand and readily agree with you about Prana, nyan~!

B-but... I am w-worried... y-you are aware that t-today is mylo, master?

We... we... WE ONLY GET ONE SHOT AT TH-THIS, NYAA~. ;_;

P-Please calm my nerves and c-confirm that you u-understand this~?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So... Me and Zito are scum... together? When if we were, we could win by pushing someone else as scum?

Right.

Fuck that.

We lynch Zito.

P-Ppplease do not be d-disrespecting Master Kise!

I-I am o-obliged to protect... to protect him, umu...

A-Arigatou Gozaimasu~!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I-I am TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY s-sorry Mr.Devil...

B-But I was r-recently informed t-that I am m-merely a kit... following kitten in this game, umu~...

S-So I try hard to live up to expectations, nyaa~!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You better retreat back to your hole..

I-I hope you don't mean ME, nyan~?

I-I'm a very SENSITIVE kitten, you know.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote;

I'll get back to you tonight.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My team wants Faraday or Hoopla lynched today with a passion, and do not support a no lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Your team is shit then.

Vote Zito for fuck's sake.

Yes, please do take up this argument with Esurio, DGB and UK.

I'd

LOVE

to see you try~

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Faraday, I'm not ignoring the 50/50.

My team is simply more that 50% certain you are scum.

^-^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You're not getting anything from me just yet.

I'm taking my time with this... and discussing everything with my team before I come to a final decision.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry, but I'm inclined to get the information than to lynch today.

I'm swaying towards a No Lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Mod: Is it possible to perform more than one active power per night?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

After reading through the last few pages, and doing some re-reading from earlier,

I find it incredibly unlikely that scum-Prana would still be forcing this at us.

Additionally, Hoopla's divided-town point is probably the best argument I've seen for not no-lynching today yet, and while I was leaning towards voting before I read that, her logic there really cemented my decision.

All that said:

VOTE: Papa Zito

Yeah. Right.

Because scum!Prana would suddenly stop pushing his target in a 1v1.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can't hammer it. Quads just invited and voted Papa Zito.

Which was weird....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, hey. New day.

Hoopla got a negative on DDD?

Kay.

I need to discuss something with my team...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh look, that's what I was waiting for.

Vote: Kise

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We've already determined that DDD and I aren't scum together.

So, if your last remaining argument that I am scum with HOOPLA, you're laughable.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kise is flailing...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You're right. I could have hammered No Lynch when I had the chance...

So if I'm scum, why didn't I hammer NL, and save Zito from the lynch?

I like how you try to argue because you were still voting Prana, that I was holding out some hope for a Prana lynch~.

It's a logical fallacy. Much like the rest of your argument. You're flailing because you can't find a suspect, because none remain for you.

You're scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was discussing something with my team.

I.E: We were discussing whether we should believe Prana or not.