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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:15 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

Yeah, but you aren't town this game, are you?

So this is kind of a pointless argument to make.


If you actually paid attention to my posts, you'd know this plan is flexible. I'm willing to democratically fill in the blanks based on votes, because I know I'm like so scary. The plan is also designed to give us the most information, and virtually lock down entire neighbourhoods tomorrow to essentially guarantee scum even in the worst case scenario of us missing scum with the lynch and vig. That shouldn't, nay, won't happen, but it's a safety net put in place to quell the possibility of people not trusting me.

You don't think SpyreX is scum? Fine, put DDD in instead. You don't think quadz is scum? Fine, put Faraday in the equation. We can decide this in a calm, organised manner. We nearly have this game cracked wide open. When you panic and start screaming, it causes other people to do the same. We don't want chaos. We want to lock scum down, by not giving them outs. You give them outs when there is no plan.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:16 pm

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There is a plan.

You get lynched.

You are town, shoot SSBF.

You are scum, shoot Faraday.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:18 pm

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Also, add Appeasement to the reasons why Hoop is scum.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:19 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Also, add Appeasement to the reasons why Hoop is scum.


Why is that a scumtell?
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:20 pm

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Hoopla wrote:Zito;

If SSBF is town, you shoot SpyreX.
If SSBF is scum, you shoot quadz.


Flexible. Yep.

See, it gives the appearance of flexibility... But in reality it's not.
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:21 pm

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LLD, chill out. Plan = good. It's just a matter of attempting to actually figure one out.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:21 pm

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I'm pushing for your lynch.

By appeasing me, you avoid a scum lynch, get your mislynch.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:23 pm

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Hard to chill out when I'm running 101 degrees F Fever.

But I agree. A plan is important. It needs to involve hoopla being dead.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:26 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm pushing for your lynch.

By appeasing me, you avoid a scum lynch, get your mislynch.


Or, by "appeasing you", I avoid a town lynch, and get my scum lynch.

Would you expect me to attack you in this situation? I know that's probably the natural instinct.
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:29 pm

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You're too good for that kind of reaction Hoopla.

If you had attacked me I'd have given it town credence actually. No, this calculated answer to every question is more of a null tell, I figure scum Hoopla does it just as well as town hoopla.
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:35 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You're too good for that kind of reaction Hoopla.

If you had attacked me I'd have given it town credence actually. No, this calculated answer to every question is more of a null tell, I figure scum Hoopla does it just as well as town hoopla.


Why are you interpreting my play as scummy rather than town, if you deem most of it null? What are you suspicious of exactly?
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:39 pm

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Misrep noted.

Most of it isn't null. That one reaction is null.

The scummy part comes from your actions prior to me voting you. As I outlined.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:39 pm

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LLD: Prana is scum y/n?
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:42 pm

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Gah.

Prana and Hoopla aren't scum together...

SSBF/Prana/????
or
Hoopla/Faraday/????

That's what I'm thinking right now.

But Hoopla>SSBF lynch.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:44 pm

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My head hurts ;_;
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:45 pm

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On a scale of 1-10 your thoughts on the Hoopla/Faraday/SSBF team
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:47 pm

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5.

I don't agree with the SSBF part of it entirely.

Well, actually.

Explain why SSBF belongs there.
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:47 pm

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Make that a 6z
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:49 pm

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Independently or as part of the chain? How tinfoil would you like me to go with this?
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:50 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Misrep noted.

Most of it isn't null. That one reaction is null.

The scummy part comes from your actions prior to me voting you. As I outlined.


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every
question is more of a null tell"


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I think you should talk to DGB, and ask her about how I play. She should be back from V/LA some time soon.

Your suspicion ultimately boils down to me using numbers as a primary form of scumhunting, when I have proven successes with it, and no failures. Can you say the same about the way you scumhunt? Criticising me for my approach to catching scum (when it's been proven to work) is not a point. If you dislike my approach, so be it - but you should full well know I was always going to play the game this way. I could quite easily dismiss your play as scummy/anti-town because you refuse to incorporate number analysis as a backbone of your play, but I know this is how you would probably play. Likewise, you should know this is how I would play.

If you want to debate the merits of each playstyle, and whether they're anti-town/successful/whatever else, then we can do that later. But you haven't got a reason other than me wanting to vig Spy/quadz who you deem town, to your case.

SpyreX wrote:LLD you're breakin my heart because I know your town. Who's the third then DDD/Prana?


I'd love this answered.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:52 pm

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As part of the group.

I know the arguments for SSBF scum in iso. I made Many of them myself.

I want to know how he fits with Hoopla/Faraday scum.

Forgive my illness, but "tinfoil"?
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:54 pm

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I would hazard a guess at DDD or Slaxz being thirdZ but that's kinda ubfoundee

It's not about playstyle. It's about how the playstyle is being utilized in a scummy streamrolling way.

I have asked DGB about you. I was warned that she can't read you to save her life. Big help. :3
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:55 pm

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Ubfoundee <3

Oh god, I'm losing my mind.

"Unfounded"
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:58 pm

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The compromise I will make is this.

If SSBF flips town, shoot Hoopla.
If SSBF flips scum, shoot Prana.

That's my compromise, if you want your SSBF lynch. Are you so sure he is scum, that you will lay your life on the line for it?
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2011 3:59 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I would hazard a guess at DDD or Slaxz being thirdZ but that's kinda ubfoundee


So Hoopla in a scumteam with two 6's (Faraday/Slaxx) chose Goon Cop with the only scum pick?

So, Hoopla with Faraday/DDD. You essentially prove/disprove this with my plan. If SSBF flips scum, it clears DDD. If SSBF flips town, we kill DDD. I'd still prefer Spy, but if it squashes/confirms that theory about me, then aren't we golden? You catch me if I'm scum, and then don't destroy the town if I'm town.

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