First thing that stands out: Hoopla's
462. She presents solid evidence for Prana-scum (not voting despite regular posting, flipflop on top-4 beliefs, not buying Hoops as town). She then presents a case on me that is, as far as I can tell, active lurking and my vote remaining on LLD. She then proceeds to vote for me, despite the fact that her case on Prana is much stronger. Now, I had a town-read on Hoops for all of D1, but her voting for someone that doesn't seem to make logical sense based on her post is not what I would expect from a town-Hoopla. +scumpoints
Next is Spyrex's
469. I am wary of VCA. It can be useful, but it's also easy to both manipulate and misinterpret. The biggest issue I have with Spy's VCA is his assurance of LLD-town. I don't see a scum motivation, except for pooooossibily white-knighting a possible mislynch, but it seems premature for that sort of thing. This means that I stand by my townSpy-read, but I won't be putting much stock in that particular VCA.
As to a massclaim, scum will get a roadmap-to-night-actions, which I find particularly dangerous. We're still in 9:2. Tomorrow, when we may be in 6:2 going on 3:2, I'll talk about a massclaim. I'm unsure how I feel on a VT/ non-VT claim, as it does tell the scum "THESE ARE THE PRS YOU GUYS." While they can probably do a reasonable job at guessing a couple based on numbers, this 100% confirms all town PR-holders to the scum.
Hoopla's suggestion on having the RB claim first makes sense to me.
LLD votes for Prana in
538, and I don't like it. She FoSed Prana once, at the beginning of D2, due to why he shot down Spy's VCA. Otherwise? No mention of him, at all. Then, suddenly, a vote? Because he said "hey, there are people who've done this before; you should listen to us?" Yeahhhh no.
Of course Prana's 544 after their brief argument is OMGUS TO THE HEAVENS. *thumbsdown*
DDD 547 wrote:Previously withheld meta-point
I think people who are trying to clear quadz based on meta-gaming are making a serious mistake. First, he’s almost certainly on a team with Singersinger who flipped scum in the completed game which already makes it more likely that he’d have to take a scum PM changing the dynamics of things significantly.
Laters, going golfing.
...what. How does my hypothetical team getting a scum PM make it more likely that we got another scum PM? This is exceedingly poor logic.
Prana vs. LLD is showing me that they're almost certainly not both scum. It also doesn't feel town v. town to me.
Prana's logic on "lynch scum PR vs. scum goon" is leaving out the bit where we don't actually
know
if anyone we're lynching is scum til they're dead. You lynch the scummier person, period; I'd rather hit a scum goon than a townie who was not as scummy as the goon.
Kise, your question has been answered in my D1 catchup post.
I need to think about Kise's claim and its implications. I may have to do some read-shuffling...
As to Prana's 625: Welp, then +scumpoints for EPIC BUDDYING. And as to the claiming deal, if we're definitely claiming... Hm. I do think all VTs should claim what they went for and why, and I feel that going VT/non-VT first, followed by non-VT roleclaims is the best idea so far. Your reasoning of "wanting to save time" is... odd, at the very least. Aaaaaand apparently it's been decided ok.
I am a
Vanilla Townie
. I tried for Tracker (Prana you're a dick.)
I will withhold voting til after the claim is finished. My reads are going to get shuffled, I think...
Current Avatar: Kronk. Duh.
