Nomic II - Moratorium Wins!!!

[Juls]

Nomic II

This game is based on Nomic. Our first game can be found here. I am, however, making a few changes. In this game, you are in control of what happens, how it happens, when it happens, and how you win. There are a set of golden rules and silver rules below that govern how rules are created and other miscellaneous bookkeeping but the rest is up to you.

The Golden Rules

GR1.

No rule will require moderator action in shorter duration than 24 hours. In other words, I will update at least every 24 hours and a rule cannot require me to make updates in less than 24 hours.

GR2.

Rules are proposed by sending the moderator a PM with your proposal. The mod will then post the rule in the first topic to be voted on. Votes are cast by typing

Yea - P<#>

or

Nay - P<#>

in this thread. Proposals to revoke rules in play are handled the same way. Note: this is different from the first Nomic game. The reason for this change is twofold. First, it protects the numbering scheme which got confusing and second, it ensures people do not edit their rules in thread.

GR3.

The moderator reserves the right to veto rules that make it impossible or extremely difficult for me to moderate the game and verify its results.

GR4.

I am the moderator. What I say goes. You can and will be modikilled if I feel you are ruining or distracting from the game. But you would have to do a lot to get modkilled.

GR5.

My color is

dark blue

. Do not use it.

GR6.

No player is allowed to edit a vote after it is cast. If a mistake is made, the player must use an Edit by way of post (EBWOP) to make changes to votes. Unless explicitly resricted by any other rule, players may edit other parts of their posts.

GR7.

Golden Rules may not be changed. Golden rules can be added by a unanimous vote but once a golden rule becomes a rule it will remain a rule for the rest of the game.

GR8.

Silver rules can be added, changed, and deleted, by a vote of 2/3 majority + 1.

GR9.

Any rule that is proposed will adopt the highest level of voting associated with the rule (e.g. if a rule changes a golden rule and a silver rule it will require unanimous consent to pass).

GR10.

Golden rules and Silver rules do not count toward any rule limitations.

GR11.

- Whenever there is a protest with a moderators ruling, any player may protest. The player has exactly 1 post to post

Prostest Moderator's Decision

and make their case. The moderator has convened a three person panel to deal with all protests. Once a decision is made there will be no more comments about it and no more protests allowed for that particular decision. The panel will remain anonymous.

Silver Rules

SR1.

A proposed rule must reach a 50% + 1 vote majority of yay votes before it is added to the rule set. Every player has exactly one yay or nay vote. It is assumed that the person who proposes the rule has submitted a yay vote for the rule.

SR2.

Once a rule is officially added to the proposal list in the first thread, it will stay there for a period of one week before it is removed from consideration. However, rules may be reproposed.

SR3.

There shall never exceed a maximum of 25 rules at any time during the game.

SR4.

When two rules contradict, the rule with the lower rule number takes priority.

SR5.

If a rule is repealed, the effects of the rule remain in effect unless the effect no longer makes sense in context of the game.

SR6.

The moderator may propose rules but does not get a vote.

Note: I, as the moderator am here to help facilitate your rules. I may, as the need arises, expand on rules to create a obtainable result (e.g. add procedures to create factions if they are to be formed.) I also reserve the right to add Golden Rules or Silver Rules if there is anything that has been neglected.

PLEASE SEND PROPOSALS TO THE ACCOUNT NAME "Nomic", NOT "Juls"

Rules Currently in Proposal Phase

Rule Proposals are located here now.

Rules in Play

(portions in red indicate portions of the rules that are unenforcable due to reasons specified at the time of acceptance. These "red" portions of the rule may change as more rules are added)

1.

NomicBucks ($$$) are hereby re-declared as the game's currency and scoring system.

5.

If a proposal expires, each eligible voter who didn't vote on it loses 50 $$$. Anyone who has had their voting privileges confiscated for whatever reason cannot be fined by this rule.

8.

The mod will make a 4x4 grid and will keep it updated.

9.

Each player can buy a place on the grid for 500 Nomic Bucks.

10.

On the passing of this rule, all players get 1000$$$. If a new player joins the game he/she is given 1000$$$.

11.

The mod shall keep a running balance for each player.

12.

Any player who does not post within the thread for a period of two weeks is no longer considered a voting player, and loses their ability to vote on proposals. Their vote no longer counts towards any tabulation of votes, and they are no longer considered a player for the purposes of tabulating the needed votes for majorities, pluralities, unanimity, or any other number of votes. These players are placed on a new list in the OP, the "Hiatus list". Players may ask to be re-instated as a full player from the hiatus list by making a request in thread and being voted back in by majority vote.

13.

Players on the Hiatus list may not be declared the winner of Nomic II.

14.

Every three days, each player is given 100$$$ which he must give to another player of his choice, by PMing the mod. A player needn't necessarily send only one player money, but may divide the sum as he sees fit or dispose of part or all of the sum. A player may not give himself the money.
The format of the PM must be:
<playername1> <amount of money>
<playername2> <amount of money>
etc...

15.

The Items:

There are 100 unique items introduced into the game by the mod. Each person initially receives 3 free randomly chosen items for their inventory. Each player is also given their own unique list of 5 randomly generated items that can be used to attempt to kill a player and a list of 5 randomly generated items to save a player. Players can acquire items three ways:

1) open trading in the forum (bolded for moderator to see).
2) private trading (must be confirmed via PM by all parties).
3) buying from the marketplace. (bolded for moderator to see when supplies are available).

Items available for trading can be currency, favors, items, votes, or any combination thereof. This will be enforced by the moderator and all trades are binding.

The Marketplace:

The moderator will maintain a list of the items and how many are available in the first post. There will initially be 5 of each item available for purchase and each item will have a randomly generated price between 10$$$ and 2000$$$. The prices will be changed by random generation each week 3 of each item will be added for sale each week. Items may be sold to the marketplace at a 50% markdown of the price. When an item is sold to the marketplace it is added to the inventory of the marketplace.

Using Items:

Once acquiring the items needed to attempt a kill on a player. The owner may PM the moderator with their instructions to kill a player. Making this attempt destroys the items used. The player can make an attempt with a minimum of 1 item on their list or up to 5 items on their list. The breakdown is as follows:

1 item - 20% chance player will be killed if not saved.
2 items - 40% chance player will be killed if not saved.
3 items - 60% chance player will be killed if not saved.
4 items - 80% chance player will be killed if not saved.
5 items - 100% chance player will be killed if not saved.

Note:

Players may not use duplicates of an item to raise the chances of success. (e.g. a player who's list has items A,B,C,D,E must use all 5 items to get a 100% chance at the kill, not 5 of item A).

The mod will then post in thread that the targetted player has been scheduled for execution and the associated percentage possibility for the kill. All players have 48 hours to either let the player die or save the player. In order to save the player, the person must have the items necessary to save the player and submit a PM to the mod indicating they wish to save the specified player. This will destroy the items used. The same breakdown of items used effects save (i.e. 20/40/60/80/100% save chance). Each attempt to save a player is separate and can not be combined with other attempts. If the kill is successful and there are no save attempts or all save attempts fail, the targetted player is removed from the game, may not return to the game, and therefore may not win the game.

Note:

If a player sends items to the mod to save/kill a player the items are still consumed even if the targetted player is killed or saved prior to the attempt actually being made (think of it as spoilage after items are combined).

Win Condition:

When there is only one player left in the game, that player is crowned the winner of Nomic II.

16.

Players may not carry more than 50 items at any given time.

17.

When a player is killed, their items are placed in the marketplace for selling.

18.

When a player attempts a Kill or Save, they may request the mod announce that specifically they were the ones attempting the action. If no preference is specified, the attempts remain anonymous.

19.

When the grid is filled, the mod will roll two dice. The first die will be the row and the second die will be the column. The person who owns the square at that location wins 8000 $$$.

20.

No new players can join Nomic II upon passage of this rule. Moderator will merely remove the current text ""(Signups are open)"" from the subject line to reflect the fact. Any player removed or who removes themselves from the game also cannot rejoin.

21.

Each player may buy one of the following abilities for 2500 $$$.

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Reviver

- You may roll to revive someone who has died. If a 5 or 6 is rolled on a 1d6 the player is revived. You may only attempt this within 24 hours of the kill.

Speed Demon

- When you make a kill attempt, other players have only 24 hours to save the victim.

Bargain Shopper

- You get a 10% discount on all items you buy from the marketplace.

Negotiator

- You get a 10% markup on your price when you sell to the marketplace.

(Owned by yabbaguy)

Vengeful

- When you are killed you may choose a player to attempt to kill as you die. All rules of killing/saving apply. Note: This attempt does not occur if you are revived.

(Owned by Moratorium)

Nosey

- You get to know who made kill attempts via PM.

Killer

- For every 3 players you successfully kill you receive one free 100% successful kill attempt.

Saver

- For every 3 players you successfully save you receive one free 100% successful save attempt.

Scientist

- You need one less item to make kill or save attempts. However, you may not make an attempt with 0 items. Your breakdown is: 1 item = 40% success, 2 items = 60% success, 3 items = 80% success, 4 items = 100% success

Bullet Proof

- Players who target you for a kill attempt require one more item to kill or save you. And may never have a 100% chance to kill you. A player targeting you has the following breakdown: 1 item = 0% success, 2 items = 20% success, 3 items = 40% success, 4 items = 60% success, 5 items = 80% success
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Each player may only have one ability and the ability is known to all players. Also, only one player can hold any given ability (i.e. there is only one of each ability to purchase). When a player with an ability dies, the ability may be purchased again.

Once a player has an ability, they may change their ability for the cost of the new ability plus 500 $$$.

Abilities can be traded and sold to other players but all rules regarding abilities must be obeyed.

22.

Any player whose balance is less than 0 for more than three consecutive days (72 hours) is ejected from the game.

23.

The items of any player who is ejected from the game (not killed) are placed in the marketplace.

24.

All rulings of the panel are publically announced.

25.

Every player (does not include moderator) may propose rules anonymously, by saying so when PMing propositions.

26.

Players may at any time /out and name a player not currently playing. The named player will then be able to join, retaining the current stats of the recently /outed player. A maximum of 3 days will be given to the named player to claim the spot.

28.

A second/third/fourth win condition is declared: if at anytime all but 1 person is 'in the red' (i.e. has a negative balance), the player with the positive balance will be declared the winner of Nomic II. This, P172 (if passed), P169 (if passed) and the win condition portion of Rule 15 will become a Silver Rule exactly 3 weeks after this rule is passed.

29.

The act of placing a new proposal onto the proposal board for consideration by the players of Nomic II may not be blocked by way of Protest to the Council, as it is no longer considered a moderator ruling. The moderator of Nomic II has sole discretion on whether a new proposal is placed on the proposal board.

30.

The winner(s) of Nomic II will automatically have a free spot in Nomic III if it is established, and will be given a second vote for the first two weeks of Nomic III.

31.

A player may pay 500$$$ to the mod to use the local blacksmiths, thus allowing that player to combine various ores acquired from the market place.
A player combines 3 ores to create a shield. These shields have various propertied according to the amounts of various ores used, as follows:

-Copper ore: If a kill attack on you fails, you take N*3% of the wealth of the player who tried to kill you, where N is the number of items that player used on you.
-Gold ore: Price of buying market items decreases by 1.5%.
-Iron ore: If a kill on an opponent fails, you steal two random items of his.
-Silver ore: Price of buying market items decreases by 1%.
-Zinc ore: Using a zinc ore in your shield negates the 500$$$ cots of creating a shield. Only one zinc ore can be used in each shield.

A shield can be made out of any combination of ores except entirely out of one type of ore.
If two same ores are used, their effect is additive. For example, for a player with a shield with two gold ores and a copper ore, prices in the market place go down by 3%.

32.

If at any point there are only three active players with voting rights left in the game, all proposals are proposed anonymously.

33.

If at any point there are only two active players with voting rights left in the game, the player with the highest balance wins.

34.

The moderator will do her utmost to perform all monetary transactions without error. However, if the moderator makes a mistake in transactions involving Nomic Bucks, and is unable to determine the exact $$$ amount of the error, the moderator will pay a compensation of 500 $$$ to the offended party. Note, all Nomic Buck transactions are performed in whole dollar increments. Therefore, if partial nomic bucks exist they are rounded down.

35.

If a player who has commenced saving or killing actions is killed, ejected from the game, or place on the hiatus list, then all saving and killing actions by this player on other players are canceled immediately.

36.

Once this rule passes, the perpetrator of the 6 kill attempts in post 875 shall be exposed by name in a post by the Mod.
(So we don't point fingers at chenhsi in vain)

Rule 8 Grid

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CLICK HERE TO VISIT THE MARKET PLACE

Players

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Player

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Balance

Moratorium (Vengeful)

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5197

chenhsi

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1226

Rhinox*

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1150

*hiatus list (cannot vote/cannot win unless voted back in.)

Dead Players

Lowell
Empking
Drench
skitzer
Lunar_Tick
yabbaguy

Evicted Players

Blackberry
animorpherv1
Perpetuum
popsofctown
ortolan
xelada

Brought to you by:

Mod: Juls

[Juls]

Sure why not...No rule, however, can remove me as the mod. So I would simultaneous be a player and the mod.

[Juls]

Yes PM'ing me. The numbering got confusing last game and people also editted rules occasionally after I posted them (not maliciously mind you). So this way I will have a permanent record of them. You will still be voting in thread though. I will post all rules to the thread within 24 hours of PMing them and if a rule passes it will take effect from the time the deciding vote is cast.

[Juls]

I want them in PM Max. It will be more organized that way.

[Juls]

Yes I will add an author column.

[Juls]

Yep, signups going on until Tuesday (so I can finish my finals).

[Juls]

bump. only 24 more hours of sign ups before we go live.

[Juls]

The game is now underway. Very important message though:

PLEASE SEND PROPOSALS TO THE ACCOUNT NAME "Nomic", NOT "Juls"

Good luck everyone.

[Juls]

Please see the first post for new rules proposals:
Moratorium proposed P1-P14
dizardin proposed P15

[Juls]

It would be helpful but not required if you could use this format when sending rules to me:

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[table][row]
                [size=12]<I will insert P#>[/size]
                [col][size=12]<your name>[/size]
                [col][size=12]<your rule>[/size]
                [col][size=12](1) <your name>[/size]
                [col][size=12](0) [/size]
                [col][size=12]<I will insert time>[/size][/table]

Just replace the parts between and including the <> as indicated or leave as is for P# and time. Thanks.

[Juls]

Please see the first post for new rules proposals:
farside22 proposed P16

[Juls]

Sorry for the spam, last one tonight. GR2 has been updated to include the voting syntax for voting yay or nay on proposals. It doesn't have to be perfect. If it is in bold and made clear what you are voting for then I will accept it.

[Juls]

Lawrence, you should definately make a new post because that would take way too much effort to check for edits. Also, you can say "Nay to all" or "Yay to P1-P10" and that sort of thing. Just make it clear what you want. But please bold them or they won't count.

[Juls]

Rules P17-P19 have added to the proposal list, please see the first post.

[Juls]

Rules P20-P27 have been added to the proposals on the first page.

The following proposals have been defeated:

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P16

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farside22

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At the start of the game (the first 3 days) only one rule may be issued to ease people into the game.

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(1) farside22

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(11) dizardin, Drench, KaleiÃ

[Juls]

Rules P28 and P29 have been added to the proposal list.

The following rule has passed and now is a rule of the game. However, portions of this rule are unenforcable and appear in red in the main post. The portions in question are all portions referring to NB(Nomic bucks). Until there is a rule that establishes NB or discusses how NB is rewarded, these portions will remain in red. Once a rule has been established, the portions that are currently unenforcable will be enforced.

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P#

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Rule

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Nays

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P4

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Moratorium

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Currency -> The Leaderboard

: Henceforth, the mod will maintain a public record of the current balance of each player entity in the game, which will be displayed in the original post. The mod will sort the list of player entities by NB total, whereas the player entity at the top of the list will be the one with the most NB’s, and the player entity at the bottom of the list will be the one with the least NB’s.

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(11) Moratorium, Drench, Perpetuum, Crazy, Rhinox, chenhsi, Empking, xelada, popsofctown, animorpherv1, farside22

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(2) KaleiÐoscøpe, Lowell

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May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Note: I made a separate thread for rules proposals to make the original post more readable.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11358

[Juls]

@dizardin: You cannot amend a rule that already has votes on it. You have two options: 1)resubmitting it with new wording and revoting on it or 2) wait until it passes and then propose an amendment to it to be voted on. I would allow it if there were no votes on it yet. I realize this change is small but it introduces a slippery precedence.

[Juls]

Rules P30 through P36 have been added to the proposal list.

NOTE1: A new golden rule is being added.

GR6.

No player is allowed to edit a vote after it is cast. If a mistake is made, the player must use an Edit by way of post (EBWOP) to make changes to votes. Unless explicitly resricted by any other rule, players may edit other parts of their posts.

NOTE2: The GR and SR rules do not count toward the current 25 rule limit.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

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P#

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Nays

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P1

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Moratorium

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Currency -> It’s all about the Benjamins

: Henceforth, let there be established a monetary currency, of which a single unit is to be described as “1 Nomicbuck”, abbreviated as 1 NB. The official symbol of the NB will be the bolded triple dollar sign, as plainly NB’s are deserving of the extra attention and emphasis given by such a symbol. Therefore, 1 Nomicbuck = 1 NB = 1

$$$

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(11) Moratorium, Drench, Perpetuum, Crazy,
Rhinox, chenhsi, Empking, xelada, popsofctown, animorpherv1, dizardin

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(3) KaleiÐoscøpe, Lowell, farside22

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May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P2

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Moratorium

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Currency -> Transfer of Wealth

: Henceforth, NB’s are fully transferable between players, either by direct exchange or by trade for goods or services. NB’s are also fully transferable between players and any non-player entity created within the game. All such transfers are to be announced, in thread, using the following bolded syntax:

Transfer - <playername | entityname> - <amount>

Examples:

Transfer - Moratorium - 10,000 $$$

Transfer – A pack of feral wolves - 47 $$$

Any transfer not following the exact syntax will be ignored by all parties.

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(11) Moratorium, Drench, Perpetuum, Crazy, Rhinox, chenhsi, Empking, xelada, popsofctown, animorpherv1, dizardin

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(3) KaleiÐoscøpe, Lowell, farside22

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May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P3

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Moratorium

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Currency -> The Starting Bankroll

: All initial players are hereby granted a one-time lump sum of 1,000

$$$

. Each player may only profit from this rule one (1) time during the entire game.

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(11) Moratorium, Drench, Perpetuum, Crazy, Rhinox, chenhsi, Empking, xelada, popsofctown, dizardin

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(4) KaleiÐoscøpe, Lowell, animorpherv1, farside22

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May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

[Juls]

We still have a problem with some people not bolding their votes. As of this post, any vote not bolded will not count.

Also, I will be updating the silver/golden rules tonight to clarify some things. And I still have to add new proposals. All this will be done shortly.

The following proposals have been defeated(proposal thread to be updated shortly):

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P10

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Moratorium

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Corporations -> Independence Day Victory

: Henceforth, a win condition is established for Nomic II, whereas the Corporation and corresponding player entity with the greatest net worth of Nomicbucks on July 4th, 2009 will be considered the victor, and all other Corporations will be dissolved. If there is a tie for first place, co-victors will be viewed as valid. As of May 25th, 2009, this rule becomes a Silver rule. As of June 15th, 2009, this rule becomes a Golden rule.

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(3)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench

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(10)Crazy, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, KaleiÃ

[Juls]

A couple of notes:

1) "initial player" to me indicated anyone who was a player at the time of the rule passage. Therefore, yabbaguy does not receive 1000$$$.

2) When Zeikhunter /out'd, he did not transfer the money first, therefore, Moratorium does not get his NB.

[Juls]

P37-42 have been proposed.

Missed a rule...P26 has also failed.

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P#

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Author

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P26

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xelada

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It is Kinda Common- After this rule has passed the letters E,e,é,É and any other variations are disallowed in any posts or rules.

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(3)Crazy, xelada, farside22

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(10)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, KaleiÃ

[Juls]

Updated golden and silver rules. Let me know if you have any questions:

The Golden Rules

GR1.

No rule will require moderator action in shorter duration than 24 hours. In other words, I will update at least every 24 hours and a rule cannot require me to make updates in less than 24 hours.

GR2.

Rules are proposed by sending the moderator a PM with your proposal. The mod will then post the rule in the first topic to be voted on. Votes are cast by typing

Yay - P<#>

or

Nay - P<#>

in this thread. Proposals to revoke rules in play are handled the same way. Note: this is different from the first Nomic game. The reason for this change is twofold. First, it protects the numbering scheme which got confusing and second, it ensures people do not edit their rules in thread.

GR3.

The moderator reserves the right to veto rules that make it impossible or extremely difficult for me to moderate the game and verify its results.

GR4.

I am the moderator. What I say goes. You can and will be modikilled if I feel you are ruining or distracting from the game. But you would have to do a lot to get modkilled.

GR5.

My color is

dark blue

. Do not use it.

GR6.

No player is allowed to edit a vote after it is cast. If a mistake is made, the player must use an Edit by way of post (EBWOP) to make changes to votes. Unless explicitly resricted by any other rule, players may edit other parts of their posts.

GR7.

Golden Rules may not be changed. Golden rules can be added by a unanimous vote but once a golden rule becomes a rule it will remain a rule for the rest of the game.

GR8.

Silver rules can be added, changed, and deleted, by a vote of 2/3 majority + 1.

GR9.

Any rule that is proposed will adopt the highest level of voting associated with the rule (e.g. if a rule changes a golden rule and a silver rule it will require unanimous consent to pass).

GR10.

Golden rules and Silver rules do not count toward any rule limitations.

Silver Rules

SR1.

A proposed rule must reach a 50% + 1 vote majority of yay votes before it is added to the rule set. Every player has exactly one yay or nay vote. It is assumed that the person who proposes the rule has submitted a yay vote for the rule.

SR2.

Once a rule is officially added to the proposal list in the first thread, it will stay there for a period of one week before it is removed from consideration. However, rules may be reproposed.

SR3.

There shall never exceed a maximum of 25 rules at any time during the game.

[Juls]

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

Please note, all players now own a corporation and must send me the name of that corporation via PM to the Nomic account.

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P5

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Moratorium

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Corporations -> This is Bigger than just You

: Henceforth, a new game object is created, the “Corporation”. Each player entity becomes the head of and sole initial member of their own individual Corporation. All players must immediately choose a name for their Corporation upon reading this rule, and PM it to the mod. The OP will be updated to reflect the name choices made.

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(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Crazy, Drench, Empking, Rhinox, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

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(6)xelada, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, KaleiÐoscøpe, skitzer

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May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P6

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Moratorium

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Corporations -> Incorporation incurs Individual immunity

: Henceforth, no proposal shall be passed that directly or indirectly removes a player entity from the game for any reason.

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(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Crazy, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

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(6)Drench, xelada, Lowell, farside22, KaleiÐoscøpe, skitzer

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May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P13

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Moratorium

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Bank -> FBN – First Bank of Nomic

: Henceforth, a new game object is created, the “First Bank of Nomic”, abbreviated as “FBN”. It will be managed by the mod to handle various financial services agreed upon by future proposals and rules.

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench, xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(6)Crazy, Empking, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, KaleiÐoscøpe

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P18

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Law of Private Communications:

Private communications between any players involved in this game and anyone else are expressly permitted.

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Crazy, Rhinox, farside22, KaleiÐoscøpe, skitzer, dizardin, Perpetuum

[col]

(5)Empking, xelada, Lowell, popsofctown, chenhsi

[col]

May 4, 2009 11:26p.m. CDT

The following rules have been defeated.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P15

[col]

dizardin

[col]

At the passage of this rule, no new players shall be allowed to join this game.

[col]

(6)animorpherv1, Crazy, Drench, Empking, skitzer, dizardin

[col]

(9)Moratorium, xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, KaleiÐoscøpe, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

May 4, 2009 9:21p.m. CDT

P20

[col]

Rhinox

[col]

Corporations -> Life and Death

: Henceforth, Corporations may be dissolved for various reasons. If a Corporation is dissolved, the corresponding player’s balance is set to 0

$$$

. All debts, loans, deposits, or other balances associated to that player entity are also null and void. All assets owned by said Corporation are null and void, and removed from the game. Upon dissolution, the individual CEO (or equivalent title) is blacklisted and must refrain from posting, and is forbidden from submitting new proposals. In essence, dissolution = loss and removal from the game.

[col]

(2)Rhinox, chenhsi

[col]

(9)Moratorium, Crazy, Empking, Lowell, farside22, KaleiÐoscøpe, skitzer, dizardin, Perpetuum

[col]

May 5, 2009 9:11a.m. CDT

P24

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Empking

[col]

One way to win is to become the New King of Nomic.

[col]

(3)Crazy, Empking, dizardin

[col]

(9)Moratorium, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, KaleiÐoscøpe, skitzer, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

May 5, 2009 10:09a.m. CDT

P25

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xelada

[col]

The Third Arm- Everyone obtains a third arm, in every post they must say what they are doing with it.

[col]

(3)Crazy, xelada, farside22

[col]

(9)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

May 5, 2009 11:05a.m. CDT

P36

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Corporations -> No Sleeping on the Job!

The CEO of each Corporation has a fiduciary commitment to his employees, his stockholders, and most importantly, to himself. Each CEO shall submit at least one rule proposal each Pay Period in order to justify his Salary. Failure to do so shall result in a Grade 1 Offense.

[col]

(1)dizardin

[col]

(9)Moratorium, Crazy, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, KaleiÐoscøpe, skitzer, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

May 5, 2009 11:49p.m. CDT

[Juls]

@Empking: Post 141 I assumed "Nay to Rest" meant nay to those you weren't voting for. If this is incorrect please let me know so I can update. If this is correct, please be sure to be specific in the future because I will nay everything on the proposal list. Regardless, the rules that passed had already passed before you made your post.

[Juls]

P43-P45 have been proposed.

[Juls]

Yes...proposed rules are here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11358

Rules of the game are in the OP.

[Juls]

P46 and P47 have been proposed.

[Juls]

For your convienance, a link to the proposal list is now in my signature.

[Juls]

P48 and P49 have been proposed and added to the proposal list (link in my signature).

Note: I don't think this warrants a rule but I will not be prodding people unless requested.

[Juls]

P45: This one infringes on SR1. It's gonna need a 2/3 majority,

right, Mod?

I had not thought about this. I think I will allow it though. Because the rule says that every 2 neutral votes reduces the votes needed to pass/fail by 1 it is essentially the same as saying whichever side gets to the "new majority" wins all the neutral votes and the majority is still maintained. The rule just allows people to make their intentions clear (that they don't care if it passes or not but don't want to hold it up).

SR1. A proposed rule must reach a 50% + 1 vote majority of yay votes before it is added to the rule set. Every player has exactly one yay or nay vote. It is assumed that the person who proposes the rule has submitted a yay vote for the rule.

SR1 say explicitly:
1) 50% +1 majority of Yay votes. P45 modifies that to something else.
2) Yay or Nay votes - no Neutral vote granted. Can I vote 'Fish'? How is it counted?

Your call, Mod, but this looks like a 2/3 majority change to SR1 to me.

It's intent does not violate the rule. I will allow it.

[Juls]

@farside: regarding the corporations. At this point, corporations do nothing. You just own a company, you are the only employee, and you do nothing. So the only thing your corporation needs at this point is a name.


Those who have not, please send me a name for your company/corporation via PM to the nomic account.

[Juls]

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

What this means to you:
Re: P11 - You may now create commodities via rule proposals. Commodities can be anything really: dogs, cats, coal, iron, pizza, donuts, software, intelligence, etc. To propose a rule such as this you would submit a proposal such as "This rule upon passage introduces coal as a commodity." Though it doesn't need to have this syntax. If that rule passes then you are the owner of that commodity and players must buy it from you at the price you choose. What those commodities do or are used for has not been determined yet and must be determined by another rule.

Re: P14 - You may send a message to the nomic account stating you want to purchase a term deposit for X$$$. You must have X or more $$$ in your account to make a term deposit. What a term deposit does is allow you to collect interest on your money. You must tell me also how long your deposit is for (between 1 and 4 weeks). That means you will not be able to use that money for that period of time and when that period is over I will return to you your deposit + interest for usage.

Re:P41 - Pretty straight forward, ask if you have any questions.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P11

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Corporations -> Sell! Sell! Sell!

: Henceforth, a new game object is created, the “Commodity”. Corporations will have the ability to sell commodities to other players in exchange for currency. A commodity is an object which must be put forth via proposal and made into rule to exist. More than one commodity may come into being based on the agreement of a particular rule. The Player who proposed a particular commodity immediately becomes sole rights holder to the sale of said commodity, and may choose his sale price by PM to the mod, who will henceforth update the OP with prices on various commodities. Commodities may and should grant special rules or abilities to the player entity that has purchased the item. Commodities may be purchased by posting the following bolded syntax in thread:

Purchase <amount> <commodity name> from <Corporation>

Example:

Purchase 10 Widgets from Awesome Inc.

The mod will maintain an inventory on the OP showing what items and how many of each a Corporation currently owns to be available for use.

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(5)Crazy, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, skitzer

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P14

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Bank -> We accept all deposits!

: Henceforth, a new game object is created, the “Term deposit”. Corporations may privately transfer funds by PM to the FBN, in order to purchase a particular term deposit. This is an agreement between the Corporation and the FBN whereas the money transferred will be held by the FBN, with no right to withdrawal, for a period determined by the deposit purchased. The FBN will then make a transfer back to the purchasing Corporation on a date to be determined by the deposit purchased, with interest accrued. Purchases must include a transfer of funds, as well as the following command, as specified in the table below:

Code: Select all

Command   Term Length  Bank payout
Purchase 1 week term deposit  1 week term  Deposit + 20% interest
Purchase 2 week term deposit  2 weeks term Deposit + 50% interest
Purchase 3 week term deposit 3 weeks term Deposit + 100% interest
Purchase 4 week term deposit  4 weeks term Deposit + 200% interest

There is no limit on the capital which can be invested into term deposits. Bank repayments are posted in thread by the mod.

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(4)Crazy, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P41

[col]

Lowell

[col]

CENSURE

- at any time and for any reason, a player can be censured. This act prevents them from posting in the thread, drafting rules, or voting on rules for a period of 96 hours. To achieve censure, a majority of the players (>50%) must vote for censure in the following manner. To begin a motion to censure another player, a player posts the following in thread:

MOTION TO CENSURE {player name}

To support the motion of censure, other players must post

vote to CENSURE {player name}

It is not permitted to retract a vote to censure. However, each motion has a time limit of 72 hours. If majority is not reached by then, the motion fails. ANY PLAYER may take the liberty of counting the votes, and when majority is reached, may post this in the thread:

MOTION TO CENSURE {player X} passes

. The 96 hour censure period begins from the time of that post.

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Crazy, Empking, Lowell, farside22, skitzer, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(2)Rhinox, dizardin

[col]

May 6, 2009 4:23p.m. CDT

[Juls]

P50-P53 have been proposed (link in signature).

[Juls]

P54 has been proposed. Also, the following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P7

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Corporations -> Life and Death

: Henceforth, Corporations may be dissolved for various reasons. If a Corporation is dissolved, the corresponding player’s balance is set to 0

$$$

. All debts, loans, deposits, or other balances associated to that player entity are also null and void. All assets owned by said Corporation are null and void, and removed from the game. Player entities whose Corporations are dissolved may start a new Corporation. A new name must immediately be chosen upon incorporation. Players who start a new Corporation beyond May 15th, 2009 may not profit from any act for a period of three (3) days upon incorporation.

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Crazy, Drench, Empking, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(6)xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, skitzer

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P8

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Corporations -> Violations of Corporate Standards

: Henceforth, the following list of violation penalties, known as the “Violations of Corporate Standards”, exists.

Grade 1 offense -> 100

$$$

fine
Grade 2 offense -> 300

$$$

fine, Player may not submit proposals for 1 week.
Grade 3 offense -> 500

$$$

fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks.
Grade 4 offense -> 1000

$$$

fine, Player may not submit proposals for 1 month.
Grade 5 offense -> Corporation is dissolved.

All fines are paid to the corporation infringed by the violation, in the same manner as a transfer. If the violation did not infringe a specific corporation, the fine is simply a deduction from the offending corporation’s balance entry. If a Corporation is unable to pay the fine, the Corporation is dissolved.

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench, Empking, Rhinox, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(6)Crazy, xelada, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, skitzer

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P39

[col]

Lowell

[col]

"Players may only be added to the game by a majority (50%+1) of the current players. To join the game a potential newcomer must find a ""sponsor"" who will speak on her/his behalf in the thread. If a non-player posts in the thread, they will be ineligible to join the game (or have their candidacy considered) for two weeks."

[col]

(9)Moratorium, Crazy, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(2)skitzer, dizardin

[col]

May 6, 2009 3:53p.m. CDT

[Juls]

P40 has failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P40

[col]

popsofctown

[col]

Everyone's favorite grandfather, ol' pops

: Effective as soon as this rule comes into play: popsofctown's NomicBucks are evenly distributed amongst all the players that voted Yay on this rule. Parts of hundredths of NomicBucks divided this way simply vanish into thin air.
Then, popsofctown is declared a winner of the game. This clause may in no way directly effect whether any other player wins or loses.
Then, popsofctown is removed from the game. This means he may no longer vote on propositions or propose them, his win/loss status may not change, he is no longer affected by any of the rules of Nomic, and no longer is listed on any up to date leaderboards or other player-by player statistics.
This rule overrules any rules forbidding the removal of a player or defining popsofctown's win condition.

[col]

(3)Empking, Lowell, popsofctown

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Rhinox, farside22, skitzer, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 6, 2009 4:20p.m. CDT

[Juls]

@dizardin: P32 is not dead yet because votes are allowed to be changed. If nothing else changes it will go away on its expiration date.

[Juls]

P55-P59 have been proposed

[Juls]

I'll vote

yes on 42

. Huzzah it passed... hilariously, I STILL don't think it helps yabba, as it only refers to NEW players. mod, a ruling?

Also I have no idea what the commodities do or mean. I'm not voting on any of them until I understand the point.

That is correct Lowell.

[Juls]

Proposals P60 and P61 have been added.

Still need corporation names from ortolan and xelada.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P12

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Corporations -> Stop Stealing out of the Warehouse, Carl!

: Henceforth, Corporations with sole rights to the sale of a commodity may only acquire said commodity for use by withdrawing the purchase price from their total balance. This money is not paid back to the Corporation, but instead vanishes into thin air, which for game balance purposes will be considered a Patent Tax.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(5)xelada, Lowell, farside22, skitzer, yabbaguy

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P28

[col]

Lowell

[col]

"A player may proxy her/his vote to another player at any time, for any length of time. To do this the player posts some form of ""I will proxy my vote to _____"" in the thread. To end the proxying, s/he posts ""end proxying""."

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(2)skitzer, yabbaguy

[col]

May 5, 2009 6:23p.m. CDT

P42

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

proposition to amend rule 4: The original: All initial players are hereby granted a one-time lump sum of 1,000 $$$. Each player may only profit from this rule one (1) time during the entire game. Revision: Upon signing up for this game, the player is granted a one-time lump sum of 1,000 $$$.

[col]

(9)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(3)animorpherv1, skitzer, Perpetuum

[col]

May 6, 2009 7:24p.m. CDT

[Juls]

P52 has passed (rules page to be updated shortly).

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P52

[col]

Empking

[col]

At the passing of this proposal the mod creates a blank 8x8 grid. The mod keeps it updated whenever a change is made to it.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, farside22, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(0)

[col]

May 8, 2009 1:13p.m. CDT

[Juls]

P62-P69 have been proposed.

[Juls]

@Lowell. The person who proposes a commodity is the owner of that commodity and they set the price. Other players can buy that commodity and use it in game. So say you had a commodity called "Double Vote" and its effect is that someone's vote counted double then you could sell this to other players for them to use in the game and you would be adding to your bank account.

[Juls]

Motion to censure dizardin expires on May 5, 2009 @ 12:35p.m. CDT.
Requires 8 yes votes to pass(votes will be tallied in this post)

Players voting yes: (0)

[Juls]

Motion to censure Moraorium expires on May 5, 2009 @ 12:35p.m. CDT.
Requires 8 yes votes to pass(votes will be tallied in this post)

Players voting yes: (0)

[Juls]

No votes aren't required for censuring, only yes votes need to be cast.

[Juls]

I wrote a program that helps me keep up with this game and now I added a feature to tell me who is not voting on things so the second post of the rules proposals thread has your name and what you are not voting on. Note, you aren't required to vote on everything, this is for your convienance only.

(this post does not include ani's last post...I will update now).

[Juls]

The following rules have passed.

What this means to you:
P9 - From this post, everyone has the title of CEO or Chief Executive Officer. If you refer to a player without this title then you will suffer a Grade 3 offense (Grade 3 offense -> 500

$$$

fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks.) You may also change your title to whatever you want at any time by using the specified syntax.

P22 - This rule contradicts rule 14. Therefore, I am introducing a new silver rule:

NEW RULE!:

SR4.

When two rules contradict, the rule with the lower rule number takes priority.

You may change this rule if you wish with a 2/3 majority vote.

P23 - self explanatory.

P34 - the first pay day will be May 8, 2009 at 11:59p.m. Each of you will get a salary of 0

$$$

as there is no amount set for salary.

P53 - I am now taking bets. Bets will be taken until May 5, 2009 4:30p.m. CDT at which time I will roll a dice in thread. Any bets received after the deadline will be counted for the following dice roll I would prefer bets be sent to the nomic account but you may post them in thread if you wish. I will update the OP with this information.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P9

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Corporations -> You’re the boss

: Henceforth, all player entities are hereby granted a new title, “Chief Executive Officer”, abbreviated to “CEO”. Any reference to a specific player entity must include that player entity’s title. At any time, any player may customize their title by posting the following bolded syntax to the thread:

New Job Title: <newtitle>

Example:

New Job Title: Master of Ceremonies

Failure by any player entity to include a player’s title when referring to another player entity in any post in the thread is a violation of corporate standards. Refer to the “Corporations -> Violations of Corporate Standards” rule. This is a Grade 3 offense.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench, Empking, Rhinox, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(6)xelada, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, skitzer, yabbaguy

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P22

[col]

Rhinox

[col]

Corporations -> It's a small world

: Henceforth, a limit is set on the number of corporations in the game, such that after the first corporation is established, no new players will be allowed to enter the game. If this rule is passed after multiple corporations are established, no more entrants will be allowed upon the acceptance of this rule.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, Perpetuum, yabbaguy

[col]

(4)Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, chenhsi

[col]

May 5, 2009 9:11a.m. CDT

P23

[col]

Rhinox

[col]

"

Corporations -> Everybody's Workin' for the Weekend

: Henceforth, a new game object is created, the ""Task"". A task consists of 2 parts: an action, and a payment. A task may be virtually anything, provided the action and payment receives a 50%+1 majority vote. Reward payments may be in

$$$

, or in Commodities. A new task must be created as a proposal, and must include the task name, action, reward payment, the paying corporation, and any limits on the number of times the task may be completed for payment."

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(3)Lowell, farside22, popsofctown

[col]

May 5, 2009 9:11a.m. CDT

P34

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Corporations -> It's Pay Day!

The standard Pay Period shall be defined to be one calendar week, and shall end on Friday, 11:59pm. Any wages earned shall be assumed to have been accrued and available as of that time.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, farside22, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(3)Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer

[col]

May 5, 2009 11:49p.m. CDT

P53

[col]

Empking

[col]

A player can at any time bet 100 Nomic Bucks on 1-6, 1-3, 1-2 horses.
Every 72 hours rolls a six sided dice. If the dice lands on a six any player that betted on 1-6 gets 600 Nomic Bucks.
5,4: Each player that betted on 1-3 gets 300 nomic bucks.
1,2,3: Each player that betted on 1-2 gets 200 Nomic Bucks.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, farside22, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(2)Lowell, chenhsi

[col]

May 8, 2009 1:13p.m. CDT

The following rules have failed.
I apologize, I accidently lost the data before saving but the Empking commodity of ninja's failed. I will try to recreate it if anyone insists.

[Juls]

animorpherv1: you have received a Grade 3 offense for referring to Moratorium in post 257 without referring to him as "Pimp Daddy". You have incurred a 500

$$$

fine and will not be allowed to propose any rules for 2 weeks (until May 16, 2009 5:19p.m. CDT)

Rescinded...see a few posts down.

[Juls]

P70 has been proposed.

P19 has failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P19

[col]

Lawrencelot

[col]

As soon as this rule is accepted, each player may only propose 1 rule at a time. Players that are proposing more than 1 rule when this rule is accepted, must choose which rule they want to propose, and the other proposals are automatically denied at that moment.

[col]

(5)Empking, farside22, skitzer, Perpetuum, yabbaguy

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, dizardin, chenhsi

[col]

May 5, 2009 5:24a.m. CDT

[Juls]

I am going to rescind the penalty on animorpherv1. Being that moratorium is part of his title I don't think I can count that. From this point forward I will not penalize anyone if the title or corporation name has another player's name included, only if you are referring to them directly will it count. I am sure I will get hassled about this but it's a difficult thing to judge.

[Juls]

Adding a new Golden Rule

GR11.

- Whenever there is a protest with a moderators ruling, any player may protest. The player has exactly 1 post to post

Prostest Moderator's Decision

and make their case. The moderator has convened a three person panel to deal with all protests. Once a decision is made there will be no more comments about it and no more protests allowed for that particular decision. The panel will remain anonymous.

I have 2 of 3 people committed to helping me with this and pm's out to two more (one will be an alternate if they both accept). This rule is in effect immediately.

[Juls]

Well in this case I can see both sides and I would rather get unbiased opinions in an official manner. Think of them as our Supreme Court.

[Juls]

When I am not too stupid to put it in. Sorry about that.

[Juls]

P71 has been proposed.

[Juls]

yabbaguy, you have suffered a Grade 3 offense (500 $$$ fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks. ) for breaking rule 18 and not referring to chenshi as EoCaD chenshi. Because you cannot pay your fine, per rule 13 your corporation is dissolved and per rule 12 you may start a new corporation. If you choose to do so please send me a new corporation name. You will be able to resume making prooposals on May 17, 2009 @ 8:16a.m. CDT

[Juls]

The following rule has been defeated.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P21

[col]

Rhinox

[col]

Corporations -> Do not pass go, do not collect victory

: Henceforth, a win condition is established for Nomic II. Gameplay will continue until all but one corporation has been dissolved, at which time the corporation and corresponding player entity will be deemed the winner.

[col]

(4)animorpherv1, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 5, 2009 9:11a.m. CDT

[Juls]

P72 and P73 have been proposed.

[Juls]

P29 has passed and is now a rule of the game (proposal thread to be updated shortly)

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P29

[col]

farside22

[col]

Anyone who wishes nothing to do with the corporation and did not vote for it can opt out of it with no penalty.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(4)Moratorium, popsofctown, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

May 5, 2009 6:30p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Updates:

• dizardin has suffered a Grade 3 offsense (500
  $$$
  fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks.) for not referring to Moratorium as "Pimp Daddy" in post 301. 500
  $$$
  has been transferred from dizardin's account to Moratorium's account. dizardin may resume making proposals at May 17, 2009 10:32p.m.
  
  
• @Empking, votes in Post 304 were not counted due to not being bolded.
  
  
• farside has exited the game (that's ok...I wouldn't call Moratorium "Pimp Daddy" either...a girl has standards!)
  
  
• Rhinox's new job title is: "Made you look ;P" (for those of you who cannot read small font).
  
  
• @Moratorium: Re: Post 319, it is no longer an issue as SR3 has been stricken.
  
  
• P74 has been proposed.
  
  
• Remember: I will only prod absent players if you request that I do so.

The following rules have passed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P33

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Unlimited Rules:

Proposal to strike SR3.

Mod Note: this rule requires 2/3 majority to pass as it changes a silver rule

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(2)Lowell, Perpetuum

[col]

May 5, 2009 10:54p.m. CDT

P69

[col]

popsofctown

[col]

Financial Sway

: Players can now turn their powers in for money by putting their suffrage up for auction. Players may post:

Auction my suffrage X weeks

, in thread, where X is any positive integer. Minimum bid is 1

$$$

. Auctioning is open to any corporation or player. The mod runs the bid, which ends in four days. The winning player or respective player to winning corporation may then vote on behalf of that player for the alotted amount of time. Players who currently have auctioned out their vote may not make proposals.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(2)Empking, Lowell

[col]

May 9, 2009 12:02p.m. CDT

The following rules have been defeated.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P46

[col]

farside22

[col]

From here on in people will be forced to post 10 words max in each post.

[col]

(1)popsofctown

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 7, 2009 4:33p.m. CDT

P47

[col]

farside22

[col]

Rules will be no longer then 40 words max. Come on people can we keep some things simple!

[col]

(1)popsofctown

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 7, 2009 4:33p.m. CDT

P64

[col]

Empking

[col]

Crooked Judge: This gives a player immunity from one fine.

[col]

(2)Empking, dizardin

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 9, 2009 11:43a.m. CDT

P65

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Commodity: Chameleon Device

When used, this commodity forces its user to immediately lose ownership of their current Corporation. They then immediately acquire and become the sole owner of the Corporation currently held by the second player entity on the leaderboard.
In exchange, that targeted player entity loses ownership of their current Corporation, and immediately acquires and becomes the sole owner of the Corporation previously held by the user of this Commodity.
All assets tied to a particular Corporation (Commodities inventory, Rights to sale, cash balance, etc...) are transferred along with ownership of a Corporation.
When the Chameleon Device commodity is used, it is consumed, and immediately deleted upon use.

[col]

(2)animorpherv1, Moratorium

[col]

(8)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 9, 2009 12:01p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Note: I have requested the opinion of my panel regarding Empking post 314 and Rhinox post 320. You two have referred to a player using the quote box without their title. I have also asked their opinion on the animorpherv1 title. I will let you know their ruling ASAP and issue offenses if necessary.

[Juls]

By a vote of 3-0, the panel has determined that the rule DOES in fact apply when quoting another player and using their name. Therefore:

• Empking has suffered a Grade 3 offsense (500
  $$$
  fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks.) for not referring to yabbaguy as "High Riser" in post 314. Empking has a balance of 0
  $$$
  . Therefore, his corporation is dissolved. He may start a new corporation if he wishes by sending me a PM to the Nomic account with a new name. All deposits are lost per Rule 12. Empking may resume making proposals on May 18, 2009 1:43p.m. CDT.
  
  
• Rhinox has suffered a Grade 3 offsense (500
  $$$
  fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks.) for not referring to yabbaguy as "High Riser" in post 320. 500
  $$$
  has been transferred from Rhinox's account to yabbaguy's account. Empking may resume making proposals on May 18, 2009 2:05p.m. CDT

The panel also ruled by a vote of 2-1 that you are not required to "nest" your titles (e.g. animorpherv1 is known as Moratorium's boss not Moratorium (Pimp Daddy)'s boss.

Also, there has been another infraction. Moratorium has suffered four Grade 3 offsenses (500 $$$ fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks.) for not referring to Drench, xelada, Perpetuum, and ortolan as their titles in post 322. 500

$$$

each has been transferred from Moratorium's account to Drench, xelada, and Perpetuum. This bankrupts Moratorium's corporation and thus dissolves his corporation. He may submit a new corporation name if he wishes via PM to the Nomic account. Moratorium may resume making proposals on May 18, 2009 3:32p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Please bold xelada or it won't count (do EBWOP)

[Juls]

UPDATES

• Bids for pops suffrage may continue until May 8, 2009 @ 4:57p.m. CDT
  
  
• yabbaguy has suffered a Grade 3 offense (500
  $$$
  fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks. ) for post 328. Yabbaguy will not be able to propose rules until May 18, 2009 @ 5:29p.m.CDT. 500
  $$$
  has been transferred to popsofctown's account. This bankrupts yabbaguy and thus his corporation has been dissolved (I have received the new corporation name. (you blew through that 500
  $$$
  fast. :p)
  
  
• xelada's votes in post 329 do not count as they were not bolded.
  
  
• animorpherv1 has suffered a Grade 3 offense (500
  $$$
  fine, Player may not submit proposals for 2 weeks. ) for post 335. animorpherv1 will not be able to propose rules until May 18, 2009 @ 7:05p.m. CDT. 500
  $$$
  has been transferred to popsofctown's account from animorpherv1's account.
  
  
• Re: Rhinox 343. This rule took effect from the time I posted the rule as passing (in post 255). The judgment made by the panel was to see if it counted as an offense. They judged that it did. The panel are the ones that made this ruling but if you still wish to protest I will send it back to them. Please indicate your wishes in thread.
  
  
• Motions to censure dizardin and Moratorium have failed.
  
  
• Dice Roll:
  
  
  Original Roll String: 1d6

  1 6-Sided Dice: (6) = 6
  
  
  I will check the Nomic account for bets and update if necessary. All bets for the next roll must be received by May 8, 2009 @ 4:30p.m.
  
  
• I will check Nomic account for new rule proposals and other such things immediately following this posting.

The following rules have been defeated.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P44

[col]

Empking

[col]

Mor Corp can make pancakes at will. Pancakes are delicious.

[col]

(1)animorpherv1

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 7, 2009 2:16p.m. CDT

P50

[col]

Empking

[col]

Pancakes are now a commodity.

[col]

(2)animorpherv1, popsofctown

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 8, 2009 1:04p.m. CDT

P62

[col]

Empking

[col]

Empking's Alt can post in the game and his votes count for Empking's votes.

[col]

(1)Lowell

[col]

(9)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 9, 2009 11:43a.m. CDT

P66

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Commodity: Patent Lawyer

Upon use of this commodity, the rights to sell a particular commodity, as chosen by the user, are hereby immediately revoked from its current owner and attributed to the user of Patent Lawyer.
Commodity: Patent Lawyer is immune to the effects of the use of Commodity: Patent Lawyer.
When the Patent Lawyer commodity is used, it is consumed, and immediately deleted upon use.

[col]

(2)animorpherv1, skitzer

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 9, 2009 12:01p.m. CDT

P67

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Commodity: The Prince of Persia

Upon use of this commodity, the game state is reverted back to the gamestate from 24 hours previous. Anything that occured within the game in the past 24 hours is rendered null and void.
- Proposals submitted in the past 24 hours are removed.
- All posts within the game thread from the past 24 hours are deleted by the mod.
- Votes rendered in the past 24 hours are removed (or, if they were modifications to previous votes, reverted back to the previous vote).
- All game effects happening in the past 24 hours are considered to have never occured (cash balances are reverted, commodity inventories are reverted, commodity purchases never occured, etc...)
- Any issue from the past 24 hours that isn't mentioned here but follows the spirit of this rule as determined by the mod is reverted.
When the Prince of Persia commodity is used, it is consumed, and immediately deleted upon use.

[col]

(2)animorpherv1, popsofctown

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 9, 2009 12:01p.m. CDT

[Juls]

P75 to P80 have been proposed.

There were no bets on the dice roll.

[Juls]

chenhsi, you have suffered a Grade 3 offense (you all should know what this means by now) for not referring to yabbaguy as "High Riser" in post 358. 100

$$$

(your remaining balance) has been transferred to yabbaguy from your account. All of your deposits have been lost. You may resume making proposals on May 19. 2009 @ 6:49p.m. CDT Your corporation has been dissolved. You may start a new one by sending me a PM (Nomic Account)

[Juls]

Moratorium, you have suffered a Grade 3 offense (you all should know what this means by now) for not referring to Empking as <whatever his title is I am too lazy to look> in post 360. You may resume making proposals on May 19. 2009 @ 7:00p.m. CDT Your corporation has been dissolved. You may start a new one by sending me a PM (Nomic Account)

You are all ruining my game that I am working my ass off to keep maintained. I am supposed to remain impartial but can someone please get rid of this dumb rule?

[Juls]

Empking, CEO, is the title.

Moratorium, who obviously can't follow his own dumb rules, perhaps job titles should be done away with. I'd vote for either that or the penalty reduction. That, or Juls be forced to use job titles correctly just for complaining.

Actually it's Nay Voter...and remember...I can still modkill you

[Juls]

P81 has been proposed.

[Juls]

UPDATES

• xelada, you have suffered a grade 3 offense for post 379. You know the drill. Can't make proposals until May 20, 2009 @ 11:44a.m. and 500
  $$$
  have been transferred from your account to yabbaguy's account.
  
• Empking, you have suffered a grade 3 offense for post 381. You know the drill. Can't make proposals until May 20, 2009 @ 1:13p.m. and you have no money to transfer so your corporation is bankrupt/dissolved. Send me a PM with your new corporation name if you wish to start a new one.
  
• People allowed to make proposals currently: Drench, Perpetuum, skitzer, ortolan, Lowell, popsofctown

The following rules have failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P77

[col]

xelada

[col]

Commodity: Plans for Casino: By paying 150

$$$

and expending this item, you may build a casino, each payday a dice is rolled for each casino, each casino gives 10 times the roll (in

$$$

) for that casino.

[col]

(2)animorpherv1, xelada

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 11, 2009 5:41p.m. CDT

P79

[col]

xelada

[col]

Commodity: Sapper: Destroy 1 building (mine, factory,casino etc.). One use.

[col]

(2)animorpherv1, xelada

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 11, 2009 5:41p.m. CDT

P80

[col]

popsofctown

[col]

"

Essences of Uniqueness

: All existing players now receive exactly one unit of a new commodity. Each corporation shall receive only one unit of one distinct commodity, the name of which can be found by the formula ""<playername>+"" ""+""<playertitle>""+"" ""+""itite"". (playername refers to the corporations first-ever employee). The commodity's name does not change to match changes in playername or title.
All commodities created by this rule are declared members of the ""tite"" family.
""tite"" commodities have a special powers.
At the end of each pay period, if you control your own ""tite"" commodity (that is, the one that bears your corporation's initial employee's name), you recieve 5

$$$

NB.
At the end of each pay period, if you control a different player's ""tite"" commodity, you receive an amount of money equal to 10% of that player's current

$$$

NB total. (or that is, the the

$$$

NB total of the corporation that player was first ever an employee with).
In a side note that has no real power, let it be know to all that the corporation system is a pain that makes rules hard to write."

[col]

(1)animorpherv1

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 11, 2009 9:32p.m. CDT

[Juls]

I will reset on a unanimous vote from the following people: xelada, skitzer, Lowell,

yabbaguy,

dizardin,

Rhinox,

animorpherv1,

popsofctown, Empking,

moratorium,

and chenhsi.

ortolan, Perpetuum, and Drench will be dropped if we reset and they can rejoin if they wish. They have not been participating.

So please

Vote to Reset

or

Vote to NOT Reset

in thread

[Juls]

@Lowell: Yes, you can still propose rules to reset if you want. Since there were no proposals I thought I would allow it for unanimous but the same thing can be accomplished with a 50%+1 vote by proposal. However, any modification to silver rules will required 2/3 majority.

[Juls]

animorpherv1 - Grade 3 offense post 388, 500

$$$

transferred from animorpherv1 to Moratorium's account. You are now bankrupt/dissolved. Can resume making proposals May 20, 2009 6:49p.m. CDT. (if you still intend to quit please state so explicitly in thread)

Vote to reset failed

P82 has been proposed.

The following rules have expired/failed:

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P30

[col]

animorpherv1

[col]

Everyone gets 15 HP. When they hit 0 HP, they are removed

[col]

(4)animorpherv1, Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin

[col]

(7)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 5, 2009 8:02p.m. CDT

P31

[col]

animorpherv1

[col]

Being removed means you have lost.

[col]

(5)animorpherv1, Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(6)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

May 5, 2009 8:02p.m. CDT

P32

[col]

dizardin

[col]

SR1. A proposed rule must reach a 50% + 1 vote majority of Yay votes before it is added to the rule set. It is assumed that the person who proposes the rule has submitted a Yay vote for the rule.

SR4. Each player has a minimum of one vote (Yay or Nay).

Mod Note: this rule requires 2/3 majority to pass as it changes a silver rule

[col]

(4)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Rhinox, dizardin

[col]

(6)Empking, Lowell, popsofctown, Perpetuum, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 5, 2009 9:11p.m. CDT

P35

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Corporations -> Get a Haircut, and Get a Real Job!

Each Employee of each Corporation shall receive an amount of 10

$$$

per Pay Period as Salary.

[col]

(3)Moratorium, dizardin, Perpetuum

[col]

(7)animorpherv1, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 5, 2009 11:49p.m. CDT

P37

[col]

KaleiÃ

[Juls]

It is what you (collectively) make it.

[Juls]

Updates

• May 8th dice roll (sorry its late..) only better is yabbaguy with a bet on 1:3 for 100
  $$$
  . If the dice roll is 5 or 4, he wins 300
  $$$
  
  
  Original Roll String: 1d6

  1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3
  
  
• May 8th payday. Everyone receives 0
  $$$
  
  
• bid for popsofctown's suffrage has ended. Animorpherv1 had won but is no longer in the game. Pops will get 50
  $$$
  and maintains his vote.
  
• yabbaguy's suffrage auction has ended. There were no bidders. yabbaguy maintains his vote.
  
• The following proposals have either failed or expired

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P54

[col]

farside22

[col]

Any corporation may chose to merge with 50/50 shares in an attempt to buy out and support their corporation.

[col]

(2)popsofctown, chenhsi

[col]

(7)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

May 8, 2009 2:29p.m. CDT

P75

[col]

xelada

[col]

Commodity: Plans for Mine: By paying 200

$$$

and expending this item, you may build a mine (the buyer chooses what it mines for), all mines add an extra 50

$$$

to each of the owners payday's.

[col]

(2)xelada, chenhsi

[col]

(7)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

May 11, 2009 5:41p.m. CDT

P76

[col]

xelada

[col]

Commodity: Plans for Factory: By paying 100

$$$

and expending this item, you may build a factory (the buyer chooses what the factory makes), all factories add an extra 20

$$$

to each of the owners payday's.

[col]

(2)xelada, chenhsi

[col]

(7)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

May 11, 2009 5:41p.m. CDT

P78

[col]

xelada

[col]

Commodity: Lazer Brand Laser: Select a player, they lose 100

$$$

. One use.

[col]

(2)xelada, yabbaguy

[col]

(7)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi

[col]

May 11, 2009 5:41p.m. CDT

P55

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Commodity: Gavel

Hammertime!

A

Gavel

yields one additional vote.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, popsofctown, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(5)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi

[col]

May 8, 2009 9:15p.m. CDT

P56

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Commodity: Gag

Shaddap!

A

Gag

silences a player for 24 hours, rendering him/her unable to post for any reason for that period. A

Gag

may only be used once every 48 hours.

[col]

(3)Moratorium, popsofctown, dizardin

[col]

(6)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 8, 2009 9:15p.m. CDT

P57

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Commodity: Pocket Veto

It wouldn't be in our best interest.

A

Pocket Veto

removes one

Rule

from play. A

Pocket Veto

may only be used once, and is thereafter consumed (rendered useless and null).

[col]

(3)Moratorium, popsofctown, dizardin

[col]

(6)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 8, 2009 9:15p.m. CDT

P58

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Corporations -> Utter Dominance

If at any time one Corporation has amassed 10,000

$$$

, all other Corporations shall be dissolved and the sole remaining Corporation (and Player) shall be declared the winner.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, popsofctown, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(5)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi

[col]

May 8, 2009 9:40p.m. CDT

P59

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Amendment to R2:

Currency -> It’s all about the Benjamins:

Henceforth, let there be established a monetary currency, of which a single unit is to be described as “1 Nomicbuck”, abbreviated as 1 NB. The official symbol of the NB will be the bolded triple dollar sign, as plainly NB’s are deserving of the extra attention and emphasis given by such a symbol. Therefore, 1 Nomicbuck = 1 NB = 1

$$$

Failure to properly use the Nomicbuck symbol (

$$$

), including but not limited to bold properly or use the correct number of dollar signs, shall result in a Grade 1 Offense.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, Rhinox, popsofctown, dizardin

[col]

(5)Empking, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 8, 2009 11:48p.m. CDT

P60

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Proposal: Charity

1000

$$$

is immediately added to yabbaguy's balance. Once this rule takes effect, and the 1000

$$$

payment created by this rule has been made to yabbaguy, this rule is immediately and unconditionally abolished and deleted.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, Lowell, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(5)Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, chenhsi

[col]

May 9, 2009 10:30a.m. CDT

P61

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

Free Money!

: Upon the passage of this rule, each corporation earns 1000 $$$. The money is not lost even if this rule should be removed.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(4)Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer

[col]

May 9, 2009 10:36a.m. CDT

P63

[col]

Empking

[col]

A player can buy a piece of the rule 17 grid for 200 Nomic Bucks from the mod.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(5)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, chenhsi

[col]

May 9, 2009 11:43a.m. CDT

P68

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

"

Emergency Amendment to Rule #4.

The following line is to be appended to rule #4: ""Each player may only profit from this rule one (1) time during the game."""

[col]

(5)Moratorium, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(4)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, chenhsi

[col]

May 9, 2009 12:01p.m. CDT

[Juls]

yabbaguy won 300

$$$

playing horses.

[Juls]

A couple of proposals have expired but nothing else to update so I will put a post up tomorrow.

[Juls]

Lunar_Tick will need 7 yes votes to be added to the game. I will keep up with votes in this post. (No need to vote no). Treat this the same as you did the motions to censure. Also, the rule does not specify an expiration for this so you may vote until he is accepted.

Yes - (4) Moratorium, Rhinox, Empking, dizardin

[Juls]

The following rules have expired/failed:

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P71

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Corporate Responsibility Act

In order to assure stockholders of the viability of a Corporation, each Corporation must have a Public Relations Executive (PRE). This PRE may be the CEO or any other employee of the Corporation. The PRE must prepare at least one report and post it to the thread per Pay Period (defined in R21). Failure to do so shall result in a Grade 1 Offense.

[col]

(3)Moratorium, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(5)Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, skitzer, chenhsi

[col]

May 9, 2009 10:44p.m. CDT

P72

[col]

chenhsi

[col]

A player may be an employee of at most 1 corporation at a time.

[col]

(2)skitzer, chenhsi

[col]

(6)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

May 10, 2009 9:56a.m. CDT

P73

[col]

dizardin

[col]

Australian Rules Politics
From the time of passage of this proposition, each player must vote on each proposition within 72 hours of its proposal and posting to the forum. Failure to do so is a Grade 1 Offense.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, Rhinox, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(3)Empking, popsofctown, skitzer

[col]

May 10, 2009 12:37p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Empking, it is assumed your yes in post 449 is to Lunar_Tick. Let me know if it should change.

[Juls]

Dice roll....

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

1:2 Payout (If it lands on 1, 2, or 3)

Yabbaguy - 200

$$$

Rhinox - 400

$$$

1:3 Payout(If it lands on 4, 5)

Rhinox - 600

$$$

1:6 Payout(If it lands on 6)

None.

[Juls]

No payouts.

[Juls]

The following rules have passed. Therefore, all rules have been repealed. The game essentially starts over with the exception of the striking of SR3 (it still stands).

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P82

[col]

Lowell

[col]

REPEAL ALL RULES>>

when this rule passes, ALL rules (except for silver and golden rules) will be eliminated from the game (as will this rule itself).

[col]

(7)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

(1)skitzer

[col]

May 14, 2009 6:14p.m.

The following rules have expired/failed:

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P74

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Corporation -> Amendment to Rule 18.

Change Rule 18 to the following text.
Corporations -> You’re the boss: Henceforth, all player entities are hereby granted a new title, “Chief Executive Officer”, abbreviated to “CEO”. Any reference to a specific player entity must include that player entity’s title. At any time, any player may customize their title by posting the following bolded syntax to the thread:

New Job Title: <newtitle>

Example:

New Job Title: Master of Ceremonies

Failure by any player entity to include a player’s title when referring to another player entity in any post in the thread is a violation of corporate standards. Refer to the “Corporations -> Violations of Corporate Standards” rule. This is a

Grade 1

offense.

[col]

(6)Moratorium, Rhinox, popsofctown, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(2)Empking, skitzer

[col]

May 11, 2009 1:59p.m. CDT

P81

[col]

popsofctown

[col]

Simple. Win condition

:
When a player accrues 25,000

$$$

, that player wins and all other players lose. If multiple players exceed that amount in the same thread update, the player with the most NB

$$$

.
If multiple players are still tied, a special event takes place. Instead of awarding victory, the mod alters this rule by changing all NB

$$$

by 5,000

$$$

. Then, the rule comes into play again.

[col]

(2)popsofctown, skitzer

[col]

(6)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 11, 2009 7:00p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Note, everyone can submit proposals again but from here on out if a rule is repealed the effects of the rule will stay. I will add this as a SR.

New SR Rule:

SR5.

If a rule is repealed, the effects of the rule remain in effect unless the effect no longer makes sense in context of the game.

[Juls]

Reminder: All proposals go to the "Nomic" account, not "Juls". Thanks.

[Juls]

proposals P83 through P93 have been proposed.

[Juls]

P94 through P102 have been proposed.

[Juls]

In Empking's defense regarding the grid, he has proposed something but I asked he elaborate for better understanding.

[Juls]

Rules P103 to P110 have been proposed.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game. I will update the OP after I eat dinner.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P86

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

NomicBucks ($$$) are hereby re-declared as the game's currency and scoring system.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

[col]

(2)Lowell, dizardin

[col]

May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT

P89

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

"Hereby an object called a Game shall be established. To put a Game into Nomic, it must be made a proposal along the lines of Propose: Add {Connect 4} as a Game, most likely substituting Connect 4 for another game, such as RoShamBo, So Long Sucker/F*** Your Buddy, etc. Rules and proposed variants, adaptations to a netgame setting MUST be posted to any game, in case discrepancies should arise as to who wins. Games must be finite, they must eventually end with a ""winner"" and a ""loser"", or may end in a ""draw"". Mod Juls reserve the right to override the rules and call her own winner/loser/tie for any reason she deems necessary (cheating, game taking too long to finish, game appears abandoned, etc)."

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, skitzer, animorpherv1

[col]

(2)Lowell, dizardin

[col]

May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT

P90

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

Games are instigated by players by saying in thread Instigating Game: {gamename}, where {gamename} is any accepted game into Nomic and players can join by saying Request to Join {playername}'s {gamename} Game. More players may join the Game, but once there are enough to start, the instigator of the Game may post Start Game: {gamename} with {playername}{playername}(etc.). Once Mod Juls approves the Start Game command, the game will play out by its prescribed rules with the listed players until a result is reached for all players.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

[col]

(2)Lowell, dizardin

[col]

May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT

P92

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

"As a player instigates a game, they may state a buy-in fee for the game such as Wager: {100} $$$, replacing 100 with the desired amount. Wagers must be made in 1 $$$ increments. When a wager is declared, all joining players must be able to pay up the wager when the game is Started. If this is not possible, the player will be denied admission, and the Starter will be told to find someone else.
When the game starts, the specified wager will be deducted from all players' total balance. When the game ends, the ""winner""(s) will split the sum total of the wagers, unless the Game rules specify otherwise, and the ""loser""(s) will get nothing. "

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

[col]

(2)Lowell, dizardin

[col]

May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Fixed.

Updating OP now.

[Juls]

Proposals P111 and P112 have been proposed.

[Juls]

I will update this later tonight...I have some chores to take care of.

[Juls]

P113 and P114 have been proposed. Thanks for your patience with me Empking.

[Juls]

Oh...and almost forgot...P99 failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P99

[col]

Empking

[col]

A player can at any time challenge a player a player to Rock, Paper, Scissors. Each player has 24 hours to pm the mod three rounds worth of actions. If the challenger wins he gets all of the loser's Nomic Bucks. If its a draw or the challenged wins, the challanged gets all the money. If only one player sends in actions that player wins.

[col]

(1)Empking

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

May 20, 2009 12:47p.m. CDT

[Juls]

@yabbaguy: yeah, he is not counting toward anything I just forgot to take him out of the first post. I will do that in the morning and update the whole thread in the morning. I have had guests today and now I am headed to bed.

[Juls]

P115 through P117 have been proposed.

[Juls]

P118 and P119 have been proposed.

[Juls]

Updates

• rek0204 has been added to the game.
  
• The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game:

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P85

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

If a proposal expires, each player who didn't vote on it loses 50 $$$

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

[col]

(3)Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin

[col]

May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT

P91

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

Game Instigations expire after a week if the Game is not Started by the Instigator.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

[col]

(2)Lowell, dizardin

[col]

May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT

P93

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

Games can be conceded at any time by a player. If a player declares their intent to concede, they lose automatically.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

[col]

(3)Empking, Lowell, dizardin

[col]

May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT

[Juls]

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P100

[col]

Empking

[col]

The mod with make a 4x4 grid and will keep it updated.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(2)dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

May 20, 2009 12:47p.m. CDT

P101

[col]

Empking

[col]

Each player can buy a place on the grid for 500 Nomic Bucks.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(2)dizardin, yabbaguy

[col]

May 20, 2009 12:47p.m. CDT

P119

[col]

Lunar_Tick

[col]

On the passing of this rule, all players get 1000$$$. If a new player joins the game he/she is given 1000$$$.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(0)

[col]

May 24, 2009 12:13p.m. CDT

[Juls]

Updates

• skitzer has bought square c3 in the Rule 8 Grid.
  
• The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.
  [mrow]
  P#
  [col]
  Author
  [col]
  Rule
  [col]
  Yeas
  [col]
  Nays
  [col]
  Expires
  P122
  [col]
  Lunar_Tick
  [col]
  The mod shall keep a running balance for each player.
  [col]
  (8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick
  [col]
  (1)dizardin
  [col]
  May 24, 2009 1:43p.m. CDT
  
  
  
• The following rules have expired.
  [mrow]
  P#
  [col]
  Author
  [col]
  Rule
  [col]
  Yeas
  [col]
  Nays
  [col]
  Expires
  P83
  [col]
  yabbaguy
  [col]
  No rule may remove a player's right to make proposals.
  [col]
  (7)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, yabbaguy, animorpherv1
  [col]
  (4)Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick
  [col]
  May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT
  P84
  [col]
  yabbaguy
  [col]
  No rule may remove a player from the game permanently or temporarily. (exception: Modkill privileges are still reserved by Juls.)
  [col]
  (6)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, Rhinox, yabbaguy, animorpherv1
  [col]
  (5)Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick
  [col]
  May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT
  P87
  [col]
  yabbaguy
  [col]
  If a player's balance + wagers in play totals 0 $$$ at any point, they will be immediately given 1,000 $$$.
  {this means all starting players receive 1,000 $$$ off the bat}
  [col]
  (5)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, yabbaguy, animorpherv1
  [col]
  (6)Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick
  [col]
  May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT
  P88
  [col]
  yabbaguy
  [col]
  A player wins the game by obtaining 25,000 $$$.
  [col]
  (7)Moratorium, Empking, xelada, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1
  [col]
  (4)Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin
  [col]
  May 19, 2009 6:53p.m. CDT
  
  
• The following players have been fined based on expiring proposals (based on rule 5)
  pops loses 200$$$ (P83, P84, P87, P88)
  ortolan loses 200$$$ (P83, P84, P87, P88)
  Perpetuum loses 200$$$ (P83, P84, P87, P88)
  rek0204 loses 200$$$ (P83, P84, P87, P88)

[Juls]

Also, forgot to say P129 has been proposed

[Juls]

Updates

• [*]P128 has passed and is now a rule of the game.
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P128

  [col]

  Moratorium

  [col]

  "Any player who does not post within the thread for a period of two weeks is no longer considered a voting player, and loses their ability to vote on proposals. Their vote no longer counts towards any tabulation of votes, and they are no longer considered a player for the purposes of tabulating the needed votes for majorities, pluralities, unanimity, or any other number of votes.
  These players are placed on a new list in the OP, the ""Hiatus list"". Players may ask to be re-instated as a full player from the hiatus list by making a request in thread and being voted back in by majority vote."

  [col]

  (8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (0)

  [col]

  May 25, 2009 10:39a.m. CDT

  
  
  Because of this rule the following people are placed on the hiatus list: Perpetuum
  
  [*]The following proposals have expired.
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P94

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  300$$$ is added to the balance of any player that proposes a rule/amendment which subsequently passes.

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, xelada, Rhinox, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

  [col]

  (5)Empking, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 20, 2009 7:39a.m. CDT

  P95

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  100$$$ is added to the balance of any player (excluding the initial proposer) that votes Yay on a proposed rule/amendment which subsequently passes.

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, xelada, Rhinox, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

  [col]

  (5)Empking, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 20, 2009 7:39a.m. CDT

  P96

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  100$$$ is deducted from the balance on any player that votes Nay on a proposed rule/amendment which subsequently passes.

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, xelada, Rhinox, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick, animorpherv1

  [col]

  (5)Empking, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 20, 2009 7:39a.m. CDT

  P97

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  Any player may loan any other player any amount of money. A player and potential borrower may request a loan by posting in the thread the terms of his loan (amount, interest per week, deadline of return). The lender then agrees to the offer by posting:

  Lend <borrower's name> <amount $$$> with <#% per week> interest, until <deadline>

  . The money is then transferred by the mod from the lender to the borrower. A borrower returns his loan, along with the interest, to the lender by posting:

  Return <amount $$$> to <lender's name>

  . The full amount returned to the lender at the end of the loan period is always rounded down to the closest decade.

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (3)Empking, Rhinox, dizardin

  [col]

  May 20, 2009 7:39a.m. CDT

  P98

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  If a borrower of a loan does not return the agreed money of a loan with the agreed interest then the borrowers balance is set to 1$$$ and the lender's balance is increased by the initial amount that the borrower borrowed (without interest). If the borrower has the money to pay back his loan but is offline/forgets/etc then the borrower's balance is not set to 0, but the agreed amount is transferred from the borrower to the lender automatically at the time of the deadline.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (4)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin

  [col]

  May 20, 2009 12:47p.m. CDT

  P102

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  The National Board of Gaming and Game-playing will give 100$$$ to each winner(s) of any game (regardless of the bets), as an incentive. It will also give, as a consolation prize, 5$$$ to the loser(s).

  [col]

  (4)Empking, xelada, skitzer, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 20, 2009 2:33p.m. CDT

  
  
  The following people are fined based on these rules expiring:
  xelada loses 100$$$ (P97, P98)
  popsofctown loses 300$$$ (P94, P95, P96, P97, P98, P102)
  ortolan loses 300$$$ (P94, P95, P96, P97, P98, P102)
  Perpetuum loses 300$$$ (P94, P95, P96, P97, P98, P102)
  animorpherv1 loses 150$$$ (P97, P98, P102)
  rek0204 loses 300$$$ (P94, P95, P96, P97, P98, P102)
  
  [*] Rules P130 to P134 have been proposed.
  
  [*]Blackberry has joined the game.
  
  [*] I will update the OP in just a few minutes.

[Juls]

Sorry about that.

P125 has failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P125

[col]

Lunar_Tick

[col]

From here onwards, together with any vote, a player is obliged to comment shortly and informally on why they voted for or against a proposal.

[col]

(1)Lunar_Tick

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

May 25, 2009 10:12a.m. CDT

Will update proposal thread in a minute...

[Juls]

Updates

• [*]P129 has passed and is now a rule of the game.
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P129

  [col]

  Moratorium

  [col]

  Players on the Hiatus list may not be declared the winner of Nomic II.

  [col]

  (8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (1)Lowell

  [col]

  May 26, 2009 6:58a.m. CDT

  
  
  [*]The following rules have failed.
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P130

  [col]

  animorpherv1

  [col]

  Every player gets 15 Health Points (or HP for short). If a player gets to 0 HP or lower, then they are immediatley removed from the list.

  [col]

  (2)dizardin, animorpherv1

  [col]

  (8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  May 26, 2009 7:52p.m. CDT

  P131

  [col]

  animorpherv1

  [col]

  If you are removed from the list, you have lost.

  [col]

  (2)dizardin, animorpherv1

  [col]

  (8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  May 26, 2009 7:52p.m. CDT

  P132

  [col]

  chenhsi

  [col]

  If a player is ever bankrupt (less than 0 NB), that player is put on the Hiatus List for 2 weeks, and their balance is set to 0 NB.

  [col]

  (1)chenhsi

  [col]

  (8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  May 27, 2009 4:41p.m. CDT

  
  
  [*]The following rules have expired
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P103

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  An entity called the New Central Bank of Nomicopolis is created. Any player may deposit any amount into the bank at an interest of 20% per week. The money may be drawn at any time. Interest is calculated and added to the sum in the bank at the end of every week, on Sundays.
  A player types:
  

  Deposit <amount in $$$>

  to deposit.
  

  Withdraw <amount in $$$>

  to withdraw.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (4)Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:02a.m. CDT

  P104

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  "There shall exist two distinct and mutually exclusive categories into which players are placed. The ""Government"" and the ""Townspeople"". On the passing of this rule all players are considered Townspeople. New players joining the game are automatically placed in the Townspeople."

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (4)xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:05a.m. CDT

  P105

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  The Government is made up of a Supreme Ruler (referred to from here onwards as SR) and his ministers. The SR may appoint up to three ministers. The SR is obliged to pay his ministers a salary each week.

  Mod Note: I will require a different reference for this if it passes. SR is reserved for Silver Rules. I did not feel this was significant enough to not allow it.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (5)xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:05a.m. CDT

  P106

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

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  A SR collects taxes from the Townspeople. Taxes may be set from 1%-20% of each players wealth. Taxes are calculated and collected every Sunday.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (5)xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:05a.m. CDT

  P107

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  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  Any player may declares that he is starting a coup, by posting

  start coup

  . When 50%+1 of the vote is for the coup, the coup succeeds and the current SR (with all his ministers) are removed from office, rendering them Townspeople. The coup starter is made SR.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (5)xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:05a.m. CDT

  P108

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  A deposed SR is immediately fined 1500$$$.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (5)xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:05a.m. CDT

  P109

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  Lunar_Tick

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  When any SR assumes office, he is immediately given 3000$$$ by the mod, to spend as he wishes.

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  (5)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (5)xelada, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:05a.m. CDT

  P110

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  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  Ministers may resign at any time by stating so in the thread. A SR may fire a minister by stating so in the thread. An SR appoints ministers by posting:

  Appoint <player name> as the <job title>

  [col]

  (4)Moratorium, Empking, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (6)xelada, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 10:05a.m. CDT

  P111

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  yabbaguy

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  "

  Odd Or Even

  : Requires 2 players. Once this game is started, whoever instigated the game should immediately choose ODD or EVEN by posting it in the same post as their Game Start post. (eg: Start ""Odd & Even"" w/ {playername}, and I choose {ODD/EVEN}). The other player automatically chooses the option the other player didn't take.
  Then each player has 72 hours to send in a PM to ""Nomic"" saying whether they will throw a ""1"" or a ""2"". If one fails to do this, that person automatically loses. If both fail to submit, it is a draw.
  The results are then revealed, and if both players throw a 1 or both throw a 2. (1 + 1 = 2, 2 + 2 = 4), the player who chose the EVEN option wins. If one player throws a 1 and the other threw a 2, then the player who chose ODD wins (1 + 2 = 3), an odd

  scum

  sum.
  If one player wins, their opponent is the loser."

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  (3)Lowell, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 8:46p.m. CDT

  P112

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  yabbaguy

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  "

  Rock, Paper, Scissors

  : Requires 2 players. Once this game is started, the players should send a PM to Nomic with either the option ""Rock"", ""Paper"", or ""Scissors"". Then the PMs are revealed. If one player chooses Rock and the other chooses Paper, the latter wins. If one player chooses Paper and the other chooses Scissors, the latter wins. If one player chooses Scissors and the other chooses Rock, the latter wins. If both players choose the same option, both players will send in another Rock/Paper/Scissors decision. Should this ""same choice"" scenario happen three times in a row, it is a draw.
  If one player is deemed the winner, their opponent is the loser.
  If one player fails to submit within 72 hours of a game update or game start, they lose. If both fail to submit, the game is a draw."

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  (3)Lowell, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  May 21, 2009 8:46p.m. CDT

  
  
  Per rule 5, the following people have been fined.
  xelada - 150$$$ (P103, P111, P112)
  popsofctown - 500$$$ (P103, P104, P105, P106, P107, P108, P109, P110, P111, P112)
  ortolan - 500$$$ (P103, P104, P105, P106, P107, P108, P109, P110, P111, P112)
  animorpherv1 - 500$$$ (P103, P104, P105, P106, P107, P108, P109, P110, P111, P112)
  rek0204 - 500$$$ (P103, P104, P105, P106, P107, P108, P109, P110, P111, P112)
  Blackberry - 500$$$ (P103, P104, P105, P106, P107, P108, P109, P110, P111, P112)
  Perpetuum - 500$$$ (P103, P104, P105, P106, P107, P108, P109, P110, P111, P112)
  
  [*]The following people have been added to the hiatus list: popsofctown

[Juls]

I believe I can not be fined as I have not joined yet.

What the other three said. If you want, you can /out and /in again when you are ready to play to stop the bleeding (see rule 10).

[Juls]

Updates

• [*]P135 and P136 have been proposed.
  
  [*]The following rules have expired.
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  P#

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  P113

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  Rhinox

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  Proposal -> Games -> The Vault: Nomic Version)

  It works like this: 1 player may instigate a game starting by announcing in thread

  I create a vault that contains {x}$$$

  , where {x} can be whatever the instigator wishes (but no less than 100$$$), and this starting value must come from the instigator's $$$ balance. Every nomic player is then automatically in the game (costs nothing yet). Then the first round will start. Rounds will last 24 hours. Each round, every player has the option to attempt to get the money out of the vault by PMing to the mod,

  I attempt to get the money out of {playername's} vault.

  Attempting to get the money costs you 100$$$, which is instantly added to the vault's value.
  At the end of each round, the mod will announce the results. If nobody attempted to get the money out of the vault, then the next round simply begins. If 2 or more players attempt to get the money out of the vault, nobody wins the round, and the next round begins. If exactly 1 player attempts to get the money, that player wins, and 50% of the vault's value goes to the winning player, while the other 50% of the vault's value goes to the game instigator. The game is then over.
  Rounds will continue daily until somebody wins. There are no draws. If there are 3 consecutive rounds where no player attempts to get the money from the vault, then the game is over and the game instigator retains ALL of the money in the vault.
  Important notes:
  -There may be many vaults available at 1 time (1 for each player, for example), but no player should have more than one vault game running at a time. Be sure to clarify to the mod which player's vault you're going for.
  -You may not attempt to get the money out of your own vault (prevents running the vault value up).
  -If you lose a round, you are more than welcome to try again in any other round as well - but remember, each attempt costs 100$$$ added to the vaults value.

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  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, yabbaguy

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  (3)dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

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  May 22, 2009 8:01a.m. CDT

  P114

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  Empking

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  Each place on the grid is worth 300 $$$. Each block represents a link in the chain. Two links are connected if they are adjacent to each other (not diagonal). Each connection raises the value of each link in the chain by 100 additional nomic bucks. (E.g. If three places owned by one player are next to each other, each spot is worth 700 for example.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, Lunar_Tick

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  (4)Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 22, 2009 9:48a.m. CDT

  
  
  Because of this the following people have been fined:
  xelada - 100$$$ (P113, P114)
  ortolan - 100$$$ (P113, P114)
  animporhperv1 - 100$$$ (P113, P114)
  rek0204 - 100$$$ (P113, P114)
  Blackberry - 100$$$ (P113, P114)
  popsofctown - 100$$$ (P113, P114)
  Perpetuum - 100$$$ (P113, P114)

[Juls]

Updates

• [*]Re: Blackberry - I consider him a player. He has two options 1) protest the ruling or 2) quit and rejoin receiving 1000$$$ as a new player. If someone want to protest THAT ruling, you will have to do it through the protest process because I see anyone who /in's as a new player. Think about it as when someone plays online poker and they get a default buy-in for joining the game. Or pass a rule that says that players who /out are no longer considered new players when they /in. You guys also might want to think about this in regards of the hiatus list. Players are supposed to be looking for loop holes, it is the nature of nomic.
  
  [*]The following rules have expired.
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  P115

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  Lunar_Tick

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  Players may auction their blocks/cells in the grid to any player by posting:

  Auction cell (x coord, y coord), starting at (starting price $$$) until (days until end of auction)

  . A player may bid by posting

  Bid (bid $$$) on cell (x coord, y coord)

  . The highest bidder when the auction end wins the block.

  [col]

  (4)Moratorium, Empking, skitzer, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (5)Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 23, 2009 5:42p.m. CDT

  P116

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  Lunar_Tick

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  When all of the cells in a grid are filled, the mod replaces the grid with a new grid. The new grid's width and height is larger than the previous grid by one cell.

  [col]

  (4)Moratorium, Empking, skitzer, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (5)Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 23, 2009 5:42p.m. CDT

  P117

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  Lunar_Tick

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  If a players cells are vertically, horizontally or diagonally symmetric when all cells are sold, the mod pays that player an extra 50$$$ for every cell he owns.

  [col]

  (3)Moratorium, Empking, Lunar_Tick

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  (6)Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 23, 2009 5:42p.m. CDT

  P118

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  Lunar_Tick

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  When the grid fills up completely, the mod then pays each player for the value of his or her blocks

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (4)Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 24, 2009 10:19a.m. CDT

  P120

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  Lunar_Tick

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  A player may transfer money to any other player by posting:

  Pay <receiver's name> <amount $$$>

  in the thread.

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, skitzer, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (3)Rhinox, dizardin, chenhsi

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  May 24, 2009 1:43p.m. CDT

  P121

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  Lunar_Tick

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  A player may transfer money to any other player privately by PMing the mod:

  Pay <receiver's name> <amount $$$>

  .

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, skitzer, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (3)Rhinox, dizardin, chenhsi

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  May 24, 2009 1:43p.m. CDT

  P123

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  Lunar_Tick

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  A player may request from the mod that his balance not be posted in the thread publicly.[/quote]

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  (2)skitzer, Lunar_Tick

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  (7)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 24, 2009 1:43p.m. CDT

  P124

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  Lunar_Tick

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  At the end of every week (Sunday), the mod will deduct from the balance of every player 10$$$ for each proposal on which that player has not voted on.

  [col]

  (3)Empking, Lowell, Lunar_Tick

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  (6)Moratorium, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 25, 2009 10:12a.m. CDT

  P126

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  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  If a players' balance goes below 0$$$ they are declared bankrupt and the remaining players vote to see if that player will remain in the game. If more than 50% of the other players vote in support of the bankrupt player by posting, he will receive 300$$$ and will continue playing in the game. However, if not enough players vote in favour of the bankrupt player he is removed from the game.

  [col]

  (3)Rhinox, skitzer, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  May 25, 2009 10:12a.m. CDT

  P127

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  A player removed from the game by the mod or the other players cannot return to it.

  [col]

  (6)Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

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  (3)Moratorium, Empking, dizardin

  [col]

  May 25, 2009 10:12a.m. CDT

  
  Based on rule #5 the following people have been fined.
  xelada - 500$$$ (P115, P116, P117, P118, P120, P121, P123, P124, P126, P127)
  ortolan - 500$$$ (P115, P116, P117, P118, P120, P121, P123, P124, P126, P127)
  animorpherv1 - 500$$$ (P115, P116, P117, P118, P120, P121, P123, P124, P126, P127)
  rek0204 - 500$$$ (P115, P116, P117, P118, P120, P121, P123, P124, P126, P127)
  Blackberry - 500$$$ (P115, P116, P117, P118, P120, P121, P123, P124, P126, P127)
  All on Hiatus List - 500$$$ (P115, P116, P117, P118, P120, P121, P123, P124, P126, P127)
  
  [*]P137 has been proposed. Because I have been away, I added 48 hours to it's expiration time.
  
  [*] ortolan has been added to the Hiatus List.

[Juls]

I like 136 because my wedding is on June 21, then I'm leaving on my honeymoon, and will be gone from the site for a couple weeks anyways

He actually wanted the 20th but I asked him to change it because that is MY (and Moratorium's) anniversary.

[Juls]

P135 has failed
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P135

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popsofctown

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Strike rule 13.

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(2)Lowell, chenhsi

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(7)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

May 28, 11:53p.m. CDT

P138 and P139 have been proposed.

[Juls]

Apparently people have a very different sense of humor from me.

Juls is married to Moratorium :O

Raise your hand if you didn't know that.....

pops is trying to claim I am being partial in my modding because I told him that while I wouldn't stop him from being a game spoiler (i.e. admitting he doesn't want to play but just wants to mess with you all) I did not appreciate it. See, I kinda want people to have fun playing this game and if you are in here just to cause a stir I would rather you not be in here. That doesn't mean I will kick you out. As it says in the first post, it would take a lot for me to modkill someone.

pops, maybe you should go read Nomic I...we openly talked about Moratorium and I being married. In fact, he had to write a poem for me for the game to end. Also, a few posts ago I said our anniversary is next month. So continue to do what you want but don't expect me to be a wallflower when you say I am not being impartial.

[Juls]

Program smart, Juls stupid. I will fix the rules post but the program knows it doesn't need 8 votes.

Sorry folks but school started back today and I spent the evening catching up on a game so I will update tomorrow

[Juls]

Updates

P139 has passed.

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Lunar_Tick

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Every three days, each player is given 100$$$ which he must give to another player of his choice, by PMing the mod. A player needn't necessarily send only one player money, but may divide the sum as he sees fit or dispose of part or all of the sum. A player may not give himself the money.
The format of the PM must be:
<playername1> <amount of money>
<playername2> <amount of money>
etc...

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

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(0)

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Jun 1, 10:35p.m.

P133 and P134 have expired

[mrow]

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Nays

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P133

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chenhsi

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If a player is put on the Hiatus List, all of that player's places on the grid are sold to the bank.

[col]

(5)Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(4)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, Lunar_Tick

[col]

May 27, 2009 4:41p.m. CDT

P134

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Moratorium

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"Proposal: Life Support
You suddenly realize that you are playing this game of Nomic underwater! Oh no! How are you going to breathe? You can hold your breath for a supernaturally long time, but not forever! Luckily, there's a store here, ""Mr. Breezy's Underwater Discount Oxygen Store"", that sells oxygen! You can purchase a canister for 200 $$$, allowing you to survive in this game for another week. But if you ever run out of money to pay for these canisters, you're as good as dead! Better make some cash!
All players are immediately given an initial two week oxygen supply, as a measure of goodwill from Mr. Breezy."

[col]

(4)Moratorium, Rhinox, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(5)Empking, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi

[col]

May 27, 2009 5:20p.m. CDT

Based on rule 5, the following people have been fined:
xelada 100$$$ (P133, P134)
animorpherv1 100$$$ (P133, P134)
rek0204 100$$$ (P133, P134)
Blackberry 100$$$ (P133, P134)
All on Hiatus list - 100$$ (P133, P134)

I will update the OP in a few minutes and look at the hiatus list if anyone needs to be added.

[Juls]

Oh btw P140-P143 have been proposed.

[Juls]

New silver rule:

SR6.

The moderator may propose rules but does not get a vote.

And...a new rule has been proposed, P144...by me .

[Juls]

-No, I am not in. I will facilitate the rules but not be killing/saving etc. I was just wanting to give some ideas to make the game fun. As always, you guys can vote them down and can also eliminate SR6 if you choose. Any rules I propose will not be biased to any one person or groups of people.

-Items will have names. For example your killing list may be: (hammer, nails, sugar, water, cat) and your save list be: (dvd, bird, steak, skull, baby powder). While Rhinox's kill list would be (flower, mouse, shampoo, skull, hat). etc. See? All items will be 1 of 100 items in the marketplace.

-There will be a list of 5 to kill and a list of 5 to save. There is no reason to think that other rules can't be proposed where you can do other things with the items.

[Juls]

The reason I proposed this rule was to give lots of different options. You can make money, eliminate people, save people, and there is a win condition. So it has a little bit of all the elements the game needs

[Juls]

OK, thats enough for P144 to pass. I will write a program to handle the logistics of it and try to have it up and running no later than tomorrow.

@Lowell...actually, I came up with it yesterday based on a friends comment of a larger game where this was a small element of it. I just expanded on it from there.

@yabbaguy - P144 allows you to make money and potentially a lot of it. If you buy an item at 10$$$ and it goes up in price to 2000$$$ then you can sell it for 1000$$$. You can work the marketplace like a very simplistic stock market.

[Juls]

The folowing rule has passed and is now a rule of the game (lists going out soon, link to marketplace is in OP and in my signature):

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Moderator Proposed

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The Items:

There are 100 unique items introduced into the game by the mod. Each person initially receives 3 free randomly chosen items for their inventory. Each player is also given their own unique list of 5 randomly generated items that can be used to attempt to kill a player and a list of 5 randomly generated items to save a player. Players can acquire items three ways:

1) open trading in the forum (bolded for moderator to see).
2) private trading (must be confirmed via PM by all parties).
3) buying from the marketplace. (bolded for moderator to see when supplies are available).

Items available for trading can be currency, favors, items, votes, or any combination thereof. This will be enforced by the moderator and all trades are binding.

The Marketplace:

The moderator will maintain a list of the items and how many are available in the first post. There will initially be 5 of each item available for purchase and each item will have a randomly generated price between 10$$$ and 2000$$$. The prices will be changed by random generation each week 3 of each item will be added for sale each week. Items may be sold to the marketplace at a 50% markdown of the price. When an item is sold to the marketplace it is added to the inventory of the marketplace.

Using Items:

Once acquiring the items needed to attempt a kill on a player. The owner may PM the moderator with their instructions to kill a player. Making this attempt destroys the items used. The player can make an attempt with a minimum of 1 item on their list or up to 5 items on their list. The breakdown is as follows:

1 item - 20% chance player will be killed if not saved.
2 items - 40% chance player will be killed if not saved.
3 items - 60% chance player will be killed if not saved.
4 items - 80% chance player will be killed if not saved.
5 items - 100% chance player will be killed if not saved.

The mod will then post in thread that the targetted player has been scheduled for execution and the associated percentage possibility for the kill. All players have 48 hours to either let the player die or save the player. In order to save the player, the person must have the items necessary to save the player and submit a PM to the mod indicating they wish to save the specified player. This will destroy the items used. The same breakdown of items used effects save (i.e. 20/40/60/80/100% save chance). Each attempt to save a player is separate and can not be combined with other attempts. If the kill is successful and there are no save attempts or all save attempts fail, the targetted player is removed from the game, may not return to the game, and therefore may not win the game.

Note:

If a player sends items to the mod to save/kill a player the items are still consumed even if the targetted player is killed or saved prior to the attempt actually being made (think of it as spoilage after items are combined).

Win Condition:

When there is only one player left in the game, that player is crowned the winner of Nomic II.

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(7)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

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(0)

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Jun 5, 7:45p.m.

The following rules have expired:

[mrow]

P#

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Nays

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P136

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Empking

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The player with the most money on the 19th of June wins.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, Rhinox, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)Empking, Lowell, skitzer, chenhsi

[col]

May 30, 9:49a.m. CDT

As a result, the following people are fined per rule 5:
xelada, animorpherv1, rek0204, Blackberry, and all on hiatus list.

P145 has been proposed.

[Juls]

OK, everyone should have your items and lists now. If you don't, please let me know.

[Juls]

I will do transactions tomorrow because I am still writing the buy/sell part of the program. But they will be executed in order they are received. However, just so everyone knows you can do transactions publicly or privately.

[Juls]

Marketplace and balances have been updated. Let me know if there are any mistakes. If you made a transaction you should have gotten an updated inventory. If you did not, let me know.

P142 has failed.

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Lunar_Tick

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A player may give 500$$$ to the mod to exchange roles with another player at any time. No consent is needed from the second player.

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(2)Moratorium, Lunar_Tick

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(7)Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

Jun 4, 11:27a.m.

[Juls]

An informal proposal. I was thinking what to do with a players money and inventory once they are killed. What would you rather do?

1) give money and inventory to killer
2) put inventory back up for sell
3) money and inventory go into a black hole never to be seen again.

[Juls]

When sending me money for the 100 $$$ exchange (rule 14). If you don't mind people knowing you sent money to a certain individual, please give me explicit consent to tell people about it and I will post it in thread. If no consent is included then I will not release the information.

[Juls]

I have proposed P146-P149. Just trying to give you guys some options.

[Juls]

ITT Juls clearly gets inspiration from Runescape.

I will have to look that up, never heard of it. But it must be awesome!

Update will probably come later tonight...I need to stare at the idiot box for a while...and no, I don't mean Moratorium (haha!)

[Juls]

Updates

• [*]dizardin received 100 $$$ from yabbaguy
  
  [*]The following rules have expired:
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P137

  [col]

  Empking

  [col]

  Each place on the grid is worth 300 $$$. Each block represents a link in the chain. Two links are connected if they are adjacent to each other (not diagonal). Each connection raises the value of each link in the chain by 100 additional nomic bucks. (E.g. If three places owned by one player are next to each other, each spot is worth 700 for example.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Rhinox, Lowell, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (4)Empking, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi

  [col]

  Jun 1, 10:01a.m.

  
  
  [*]Per rule 5, the following people have been fined:
  animorpherv1 50$$$ (P137)
  Blackberry 50$$$ (P137)
  
  [*]xelada has been added to the hiatus list. Six votes are now required for pass/fail. Because of this, the following rules have failed:
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P141

  [col]

  Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  A player is randomly assigned the role of the town police officer. Every two days, the town officer has the chance to send a PM to the mod and accuse any player of being a dirty robber.
  If the police officer is correct, he is awarded 1000$$$ and the money that that robber has stolen is returned to it's rightful owners.
  If the police officer is wrong, he is fined 500$$$ and the innocent person he has accused is compensated 500$$$.
  
  A police officer gets a salary of B*30$$$ where B is the number of Bankers.

  [col]

  (3)Moratorium, Lowell, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (6)Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  Jun 4, 11:27a.m.

  P145

  [col]

  popsofctown

  [col]

  declaration

  - Let this rule stand as a declaration that popsofctown won't return to play until he deems the senseles persecution of inactives has stopped. Also let this rule stand as a message to lowell that popsofctown sent the hundred dollars.
  
  This rule repeals itself when it comes into effect. (might as well vote for it eh?)

  [col]

  (2)Empking, Lowell

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  Jun 6, 2009 2:34p.m.

  
  
  
  [*]and the following rules have passed:
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P138

  [col]

  yabbaguy

  [col]

  (Change Rule 5)
  5. If a proposal expires, each

  eligible voter

  who didn't vote on it loses 50 $$$.

  Anyone who has had their voting privileges confiscated for whatever reason cannot be fined by this rule.

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Rhinox, Lowell, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (3)Empking, skitzer, chenhsi

  [col]

  Jun 1, 10:04a.m.

  P148

  [col]

  Moderator Proposed

  [col]

  Players may not carry more than 50 items at any given time.

  [col]

  (6)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  (2)Lowell, dizardin

  [col]

  Jun 8, 2009 7:15a.m.

  
  
  [*]P150 and P151 have been proposed.

[Juls]

Updates

1. Kill Attempt on Lowell with 40% chance of success.

All players have 48 hours to save Lowell from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #1 .

2. Kill attempt on Lowell with 40% chance of success.

All players have 48 hours to save Lowell from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #2.

3. Kill attempt on Rhinox with 40% chance of success.

All players have 48 hours to save Rhinox from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #3.


Rules P152-P158 have been proposed.

[Juls]

4. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success.

All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #4 .

P151 has failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P151

[col]

Moderator Proposed

[col]

Players may not lose any nomic bucks per rule 5 (proposal expiration) if the rule was proposed by the moderator.

[col]

(0)

[col]

(7)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

Jun 9, 2009 7:00a.m.

[Juls]

Oh and animorpherv1 has been added to the hiatus list.

[Juls]

I've done all updates for today. If something looks wrong please let me know.

Reminder: There are two attempts to kill Lowell and one attempt to kill Rhinox in 24 hours from now.

[Juls]

The following rules have expired.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P140

[col]

Lunar_Tick

[col]

All active, non-hiatus-list players are split into categories randomly by flipping a coin: Bankers and Robbers.

The Bankers, due to their economic dexterity, increase their balance every two days by R*30$$$, where R is the number of Robbers in the game.

The Robbers, due to their sinister stealing, target a banker every two days and steals R*30$$$, where R is the number of Robbers in the game. Robbers target players by sending a Private message to the mod.

These groups are not necessarily equal in number.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, Empking, Lowell, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)Rhinox, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi

[col]

Jun 4, 11:27a.m.

P143

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

I Wanna Be The Majority:

If a rule passes, all players who voted Yea receive 100

$$$

, including this rule.
If a rule fails, all players who voted Nay receive 100

$$$

.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, Rhinox, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)Empking, Lowell, skitzer, dizardin

[col]

Jun 4, 11:04a.m.

Based on rule 5, Blackberry has lost 100$$$

P159 has been proposed.

Kill attempts 1, 2, & 3 coming in ~2hours.

[Juls]

P160 has been proposed.

Kill Attempts

Kill attempt #1 on Lowell. If the dice rolls 4 or below then Lowell will be killed. There were no save attempts.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (9) = 9

Kill attempt #2 on Lowell. If the dice rolls 4 or below then Lowell will be killed. There were no save attempts.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

Kill attempt #3 on Rhinox. If the dice rolls 4 or below then Rhinox will be killed. There were no save attempts.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

Note: When I tested 1d100 it was acting like it would always be (80)+x. Send a PM to yourself and try it to see what I mean. So I went with d10

[Juls]

Lowell has been killed on Kill #2. All of his items will go to

the marketplace

a blackhole and he will be removed from the game never to return.

Edit: Sorry, just realized that rule hasn't passed yet where his stuff goes to market

[Juls]

P147 has passed and is now a rule of the game...updating now.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P147

[col]

Moderator Proposed

[col]

When a player is killed, their items are placed in the marketplace for selling.

[col]

(5)Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(2)Moratorium, dizardin

[col]

Jun 8, 2009 7:15a.m.

[Juls]

Kill attempt #4 on yabbaguy. If the dice rolls 2 or below then yabbaguy will be killed. There were no save attempts.

Sorry this is a little late

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

P157 has passed and the indicated rules have been repealed

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P157

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

Rules 2,3,4,6, and 7 are all stricken, as Games never got off the ground.

[col]

(5)skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Blackberry

[col]

(1)Empking

[col]

Jun 9, 2009 6:09p.m.

[Juls]

Updates

• 
  [*]P159 has passed and is now a game rule
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

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  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P159

  [col]

  yabbaguy

  [col]

  When a player attempts a Kill or Save, they may request the mod announce that specifically they were the ones attempting the action. If no preference is specified, the attempts remain anonymous.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, Empking, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy

  [col]

  (0)

  [col]

  Jun 10, 2009 10:35p.m.

  
  
  [*]P161 (the letting pops back in proposal) is now in the list to be voted on.
  
  [*]The market prices have been regenerated and 3 added for each item. This will occur on Sundays from here on out.
  
  [*]I see Drench has requested in. I will update this after this post.

[Juls]

OK Drench has:
- received his initial 1000 $$$ per rule 10.
- received his 3 free items and his save/kill lists per rule 15.
- been added to the game, Good luck.

[Juls]

5. Kill Attempt on Empking with 100% chance of success.

All players have 48 hours to save Empking from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #5 .

Note: in 48 hours I will be at work so this attempt will happen at night but all saves must be in by 48 hours from the post time to count

[Juls]

P162 has been proposed.

[Juls]

Yes it does matter that your balance is negative. This issue has been brought to the panel already and they have decided by a decision of 2-1 you may not purchase items if you do not have the funds to do so.

[Juls]

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P149

[col]

Moderator Proposed

[col]

When the grid is filled, the mod will roll two dice. The first die will be the row and the second die will be the column. The person who owns the square at that location wins 8000 $$$.

[col]

(6)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, skitzer, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(3)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

Jun 8, 2009 7:15a.m.

P153

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

"No new players can join Nomic II upon passage of this rule. Moderator will merely remove the current text ""(Signups are open)"" from the subject line to reflect the fact. Any player removed or who removes themselves from the game also cannot rejoin."

[col]

(6)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(2)Empking, chenhsi

[col]

Jun 9, 2009 6:09p.m.

The following rules have failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P150

[col]

Moderator Proposed

[col]

Once a week, beginning on Sundays, each player is allowed a chance to attempt to steal an inventory item from another player. To initiate a steal attempt, the thief must send a private message to the mod. There will be a 10% chance for success. The mod will reply with a 1d100 roll of a dice. If the number is less than or equal to 10 then the steal is successful. The moderator will randomly choose one of the targetted player's items and give it to the thief.

[col]

(2)Moratorium, skitzer

[col]

(6)Empking, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

Jun 9, 2009 7:00a.m.

@Lunar_Tick - the ruling was protested in private. Also, do another post with fixed tags and what you want to buy/sell and I will do the transaction. As I told you in your PM, you were only able to get 2 spoons and the transaction after that did not go through at all. You will need to submit new transactions for whatever you want now.

[Juls]

P163 and P164 have been proposed.

[Juls]

P165 has been proposed.

And I forgot to mention earlier that dizardin sent 100$$$ to yabbaguy

[Juls]

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P162

[col]

Moderator Proposed

[col]

Each player may buy one of the following abilities for 2500 $$$.

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Reviver

- You may roll to revive someone who has died. If a 5 or 6 is rolled on a 1d6 the player is revived. You may only attempt this within 24 hours of the kill.

Speed Demon

- When you make a kill attempt, other players have only 24 hours to save the victim.

Bargain Shopper

- You get a 10% discount on all items you buy from the marketplace.

Negotiator

- You get a 10% markup on your price when you sell to the marketplace.

Vengeful

- When you are killed you may choose a player to attempt to kill as you die. All rules of killing/saving apply. Note: This attempt does not occur if you are revived.

Nosey

- You get to know who made kill attempts via PM.

Killer

- For every 3 players you successfully kill you receive one free 100% successful kill attempt.

Saver

- For every 3 players you successfully save you receive one free 100% successful save attempt.

Scientist

- You need one less item to make kill or save attempts. However, you may not make an attempt with 0 items. Your breakdown is: 1 item = 40% success, 2 items = 60% success, 3 items = 80% success, 4 items = 100% success

Bullet Proof

- Players who target you for a kill attempt require one more item to kill or save you. And may never have a 100% chance to kill you. A player targeting you has the following breakdown: 1 item = 0% success, 2 items = 20% success, 3 items = 40% success, 4 items = 60% success, 5 items = 80% success
------

Each player may only have one ability and the ability is known to all players. Also, only one player can hold any given ability (i.e. there is only one of each ability to purchase). When a player with an ability dies, the ability may be purchased again.

Once a player has an ability, they may change their ability for the cost of the new ability plus 500 $$$.

Abilities can be traded and sold to other players but all rules regarding abilities must be obeyed.

[col]

(7)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(0)

[col]

Jun 14, 2009 11:08a.m.

P163

[col]

Lunar_Tick

[col]

Any player whose balance is less than 0 for more than three consecutive days (72 hours) is ejected from the game.

[col]

(7)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(0)

[col]

Jun 14, 2009 2:44p.m.

P164

[col]

Lunar_Tick

[col]

The items of any player who is ejected from the game (not killed) are placed in the marketplace.

[col]

(7)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(0)

[col]

Jun 14, 2009 2:44p.m.

P165

[col]

chenhsi

[col]

All rulings of the panel are publically announced.[/

[col]

(7)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(0)

[col]

Jun 14, 2009 4:46p.m.

If you wish to purchase an ability just buy it in thread as you would from the marketplace. I will create a table in the OP tonight showing which is avaible/who has what. For now you can just reference the rule.

Also, the following people are scheduled for eviction if they cannot get their balance out of the red (negative) before June 12: Blackberry, animorpherv1, popsofctown, ortolan, Perpetuum

The following rules have expired

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P146

[col]

Moderator Proposed

[col]

When a player is killed by another player, the inventory and nomic bucks of the slain player is given to the killer.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, Empking, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(5)Rhinox, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 8, 2009 7:15a.m.

Based on rule 5, Blackberry has been fined 50 $$$

Tonight: Empking kill/save attempts will go through and money per rule 14.

[Juls]

Updates

• 
  [*]Empking has died. There were no save attempts and it was a 100% attempt so there is no need to roll the dice.
  [*]Because of this, there are only 5 yea/nay votes needed to pass rules so the following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P152

  [col]

  yabbaguy

  [col]

  Every player (does not include moderator) may propose rules anonymously, by saying so when PMing propositions.

  [col]

  (5)Moratorium, skitzer, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick, Drench

  [col]

  (2)dizardin, yabbaguy

  [col]

  Jun 9, 2009 6:09p.m.

  P158

  [col]

  Moderator Proposed

  [col]

  "Correction to rule 16: Add the following sentence after the item breakdowns in the ""

  Using Items

  section.

  Note: Players may not use duplicates of an item to raise the chances of success. (e.g. a player who's list has items A,B,C,D,E must use all 5 items to get a 100% chance at the kill, not 5 of item A)."

  [col][/b]

  (5)Moratorium, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  (2)dizardin, Drench

  [col]

  Jun 9, 2009 9:35p.m.

  
  [*]The following rules have expired:
  [mrow]

  P#

  [col]

  Author

  [col]

  Rule

  [col]

  Yeas

  [col]

  Nays

  [col]

  Expires

  P154

  [col]

  yabbaguy

  [col]

  Strike rule 10, which regards giving new players 1000 $$$.

  [col]

  (4)Moratorium, skitzer, yabbaguy, Drench

  [col]

  (3)dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

  [col]

  Jun 9, 2009 6:09p.m.

  P155

  [col]

  yabbaguy

  [col]

  "Each time the real-life S&P 500 Index closes above its opening price after a trading day, (ie: ""it's up""), all players receive 50 $$$. If it's unchanged or drops, no cash is awarded.
  The link provided will be the judge of this."

  [col]

  (4)Moratorium, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

  [col]

  (3)skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi

  [col]

  Jun 9, 2009 6:09p.m.

  P156

  [col]

  yabbaguy

  [col]

  Rule 8, Rule 8's corresponding grid, and Rule 9, are hereby removed from the game.

  [col]

  (4)Moratorium, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

  [col]

  (3)skitzer, Lunar_Tick, Drench

  [col]

  Jun 9, 2009 6:09p.m.

  
  Per rule 5, the following people have been fined:
  Rhinox (150 $$$)
  Blackberry (150 $$$)
  
  [*]Lunar_Tick has purchased the Bullet Proof ability.
  [*]Drench has purchased the Scientist ability.
  [*]Updating OP and market next...

[Juls]

-dizardin sent 100 $$ to yabbaguy

-P166 has been proposed.

[Juls]

The following rules failed:

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P166

[col]

anonymous

[col]

The Doppleganger Rule:
If a player kills another player by any means, the killer immediately gains any ability held by the victim that was acquired through rule 21.

[col]

(1)skitzer

[col]

(6)Moratorium, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

Jun 16, 2009 7:55p.m.

The following rules have expired:

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P160

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

I Wanna Be The Majority:
If a rule passes, all players who voted Yea receive 100 $$$, including this rule.
If a rule fails, all players who voted Nay receive 100 $$$.

[col]

(3)chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, Drench

[col]

Jun 11, 2009 9:24p.m.

Per rule 5, Blackberry and Rhinox have been fined 50 $$$ each

Also, the following people are scheduled for eviction if they cannot get their balance out of the red (negative) before

tomorrow morning

: Blackberry, animorpherv1, popsofctown, ortolan, Perpetuum

[Juls]

P167 through P176 have been proposed.

[Juls]

As of this post the following people are ejected from the game: Blackberry, animorpherv1, popsofctown, ortolan, Perpetuum

I will deal with the ramifications of this tonight but right now I have to go work.

[Juls]

Basically the way I envisioned it is that the rule would roll over to Nomic III as the first regular rule at which point players could decide what they wanted to do about it (e.g. repeal it, not play, be happy with it, etc.). However, I am not going to abuse my panel on a proposal. If it passes I will pass the protest on to them.

[Juls]

-P180 and P181 have been proposed.
-The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game:

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P174

[col]

Drench

[col]

Players may at any time /out and name a player not currently playing. The named player will then be able to join, retaining the current stats of the recently /outed player. A maximum of 3 days will be given to the named player to claim the spot.

[col]

(6)Moratorium, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(0)

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P175

[col]

Drench

[col]

A second/third/fourth win condition is declared: if at anytime all but 1 person is 'in the red' (i.e. has a negative balance), the player with the positive balance will be declared the winner of Nomic II. This, P172 (if passed), P169 (if passed) and the win condition portion of Rule 15 will become a Silver Rule exactly 3 weeks after this rule is passed.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, skitzer, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(1)chenhsi

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

[Juls]

I will re-add P175 later tonight. I misremembered my own rule. I thought it was just 2/3 on the GR instead of 2/3+1 which is the same as 50% at this point. That is why I did not notate it. I will correct this tonight and notate it on all the proposals that modify the SR list. Sorry.

[Juls]

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P167

[col]

anonymous

[col]

xelada loses 50 $$$ once this rule comes into play. After that, this rule is automatically repealed. This puts xelada in the red, and then Rule 22 takes care of the rest.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(2)skitzer, chenhsi

[col]

Jun 18, 2009 8:34p.m.

The following rules have failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P168

[col]

Drench

[col]

From here on a new 'plug-and-play' game, so to speak, is established: Double or Nothing. Players must pay 10% of their current balance. They may then roll a d2. On a 1, they will receive 25$$$. On a 2, they will lose the wager. Players have the opportunity to stop and keep their money at any time. A table of winnings is below:

Code: Select all

[table][mrow]Wins:[col]Winnings:[row]1[col]25$$$[row]2[col]50$$$[row]3[col]100$$$[row]4[col]200$$$[row]5[col]400$$$[/table]

And so on. Winnings are capped at X*1000, where X is the amount of players playing and not on hiatus.

[col]

(2)chenhsi, Drench

[col]

(5)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P171

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Drench

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Upon the passing of this rule, a new meter is introduced: the Influence Meter. The meter has 5 distinct zones that start off coloured red. Each player has their own meter. For every proposal that passes, the proposer will have a zone coloured in on their Influence Meter. If at any time someone has all 5 zones coloured green, they will receive 1000$$$ and an Influence Token. Influence Tokens may be traded as the owners please. Players may convert green zones to red for $$$ as they please, no matter how close they are to 5 greens, but rates are greatly reduced:

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[table][mrow]Zones being exchanged[col]$$$[row]1[col]50$$$[row]2[col]150$$$[row]3[col]300$$$[row]4[col]500$$$[/table]

Anonymous proposals still count for the proposer. The proposer may choose whether to publicly display the zone, revealing them as the author, or keep it a secret.

[col]

(2)chenhsi, Drench

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(5)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P177

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Drench

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Each player from this rule has 2 lives. The mod will create a 3x3 grid in which a game of Battle Royale will take place. All players will start in B2, and must move to an adjacent square each turn. Then, they will play raf with the other players in the grid they have moved to for one round. The process will then begin anew. Being shot will cost a life. Losing both lives will eliminate you. The winner will receive 20000$$$. Upon the conclusion of Battle Royale, this rule will be removed, and the winner will receive a Game Token.
Explanation of RAF:
Each contestant will begin with two lives. The first time they are attacked, they will be injured and reduced to one life. Once they are attacked after that, they will die!

The goal of the game is simple: be the last one alive. A player dies when he/she loses both of his/her lives.

The game will be split up into rounds. Each round has two stages...

FIRST STAGE (Moving Round) You will move to a new location or stay at your current location. You may only move up/down and right/left. You may not move diagonal.

SECOND STAGE (Fighting Round) You will only fight with people in your own location. (Example: Lucy and Drew are in A2 and Peter is at A1. Lucy and Drew may only fight eachother, they may not attack Peter and Peter can't attack them).

Fighting. Fighting will take place exactly like RAF (Ready, Aim, Fire). You can attack someone, attack yourself or do nothing.

If you attack someone, that person will lose a life, UNLESS, they are attacking themselves. If they are attacking themselves, then the person/people who attacked them will lose a life instead.

If you attack yourself, you will lose a life, UNLESS, someone/others attack you. If others attack you while you attack yourself, they will lose a life instead and you will be completly safe.

If you do nothing, nothing happens, UNLESS someone attacks you. If someone attacks you, you will lose a life.

It is possible to lose both your lives in the same round.

Once the round is done, we will start with a new hour and players may move again. Continue until 1 person is left.

(To speed up the game when the players are dwindling, you can make squares become 'danger zones', i.e. cause anyone in them at the end of a round to be eliminated instantly. Maybe 1-2 per round beginning round 4?)

[col]

(2)yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

(5)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P178

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Drench

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Game Tokens may be used to purchase any one item, service, or other thing that costs $$$ for free.

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(3)Moratorium, yabbaguy, Drench

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(4)skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P179

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Drench

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A second/third/fourth/fifth win condition is declared: the first person to get 5 Game Tokens will win Nomic II. This, P174 (if passed), P171 (if passed), P168 (if passed) and the win condition portion of Rule 15 will become a Silver Rule exactly 3 weeks after this rule is passed.

Mod Note: Requires 2/3 + 1 majority to pass because it modifies a silver rule

[col]

(2)Moratorium, Drench

[col]

(5)skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

[Juls]

Market has been regenerated. Sending all of you your inventory so you know what you have. (This inventory will be as of regeneration)

[Juls]

P182 through P188 have been proposed.

[Juls]

P189 has been proposed.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

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Author

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Rule

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Yeas

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Nays

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Expires

P175

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Drench

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A second/third/fourth win condition is declared: if at anytime all but 1 person is 'in the red' (i.e. has a negative balance), the player with the positive balance will be declared the winner of Nomic II. This, P172 (if passed), P169 (if passed) and the win condition portion of Rule 15 will become a Silver Rule exactly 3 weeks after this rule is passed.

Mod Note: Requires 2/3 + 1 majority to pass because it modifies a silver rule

[col]

(6)Moratorium, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(1)dizardin

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P181

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Moratorium

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The act of placing a new proposal onto the proposal board for consideration by the players of Nomic II may not be blocked by way of Protest to the Council, as it is no longer considered a moderator ruling. The moderator of Nomic II has sole discretion on whether a new proposal is placed on the proposal board.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

(0)

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 4:17p.m.

The following rules have failed.

[mrow]

P#

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Author

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Rule

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Yeas

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Nays

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Expires

P172

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Drench

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A second/third win condition is hereby declared: The first person with 10 Influence Tokens is declared the winner of Nomic II. This, P169 (if passed) and the win condition portion of Rule 15 will become a Silver Rule exactly 3 weeks after this rule is passed.

Mod Note: Requires 2/3 + 1 majority to pass because it modifies a silver rule

[col]

(2)Moratorium, Drench

[col]

(5)skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

[Juls]

Rhinox has been added to the hiatus list. Therefore, regular rules only require 4 yea/nay votes to pass/fail.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

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Author

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Rule

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Yeas

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Nays

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Expires

P170

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Drench

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The winner(s) of Nomic II will automatically have a free spot in Nomic III if it is established, and will be given a second vote for the first two weeks of Nomic III.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, Lunar_Tick, Drench

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(3)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P180

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Lunar_Tick

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A player may pay 500$$$ to the mod to use the local blacksmiths, thus allowing that player to combine various ores acquired from the market place.
A player combines 3 ores to create a shield. These shields have various propertied according to the amounts of various ores used, as follows:

-Copper ore: If a kill attack on you fails, you take N*3% of the wealth of the player who tried to kill you, where N is the number of items that player used on you.
-Gold ore: Price of buying market items decreases by 1.5%.
-Iron ore: If a kill on an opponent fails, you steal two random items of his.
-Silver ore: Price of buying market items decreases by 1%.
-Zinc ore: Using a zinc ore in your shield negates the 500$$$ cots of creating a shield. Only one zinc ore can be used in each shield.

A shield can be made out of any combination of ores except entirely out of one type of ore.
If two same ores are used, their effect is additive. For example, for a player with a shield with two gold ores and a copper ore, prices in the market place go down by 3%.

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(4)chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

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(1)dizardin

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 8:04a.m.

The following rules have failed.

[mrow]

P#

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Author

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Rule

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Yeas

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Nays

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Expires

P173

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Drench

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All players are hereby granted 2500$$$ on the passing of this rule. Once the NomicBucks have been deposited into every player's balance, this rule is removed from play.

[col]

(3)skitzer, chenhsi, Drench

[col]

(4)Moratorium, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P176

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Drench

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Players may attempt to steal $$$ from others at any time using items. A list of 5 unique items, similar to the save/kill lists, will be sent to each player. You must use these items to steal $$$.

1 item/20% chance/5000$$$ max
2 items/40% chance/1000$$$ max
3 items/60% chance/750$$$ max
4 items/80% chance/500$$$ max
5 items/100% chance/250$$$ max

You may not steal more than you currently hold yourself, nor may you steal more than your target currently holds.

[col]

(2)skitzer, Drench

[col]

(5)Moratorium, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P178

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Drench

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Game Tokens may be used to purchase any one item, service, or other thing that costs $$$ for free.

[col]

(3)Moratorium, yabbaguy, Drench

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(4)skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

P182

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Lunar_Tick

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A four day period is set which starts on 00:00 GMT and ends after 96 hours. During this period players vote on who they think is awesome by posting

I think <playername> is awesome

in the thread. He who gets most votes is awarded 700$$$ at the end of the four day period. Anyone who voted for the winner gets 300$$$. Anyone who did not vote at all loses 100$$$. A player may not vote for themselves.

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(1)Lunar_Tick

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(4)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 12:01p.m.

P183

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Lunar_Tick

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"

Proposal to amend rule 20 (changes in bold):

""

No new players can join Nomic II upon passage of this rule. Moderator will merely remove the current text """"(Signups are open)"""" from the subject line to reflect the fact.

Any player removed or who removes themselves from the game also cannot rejoin.

Players who join from here onwards are referred to as ""

New

"" and are placed on the ""New Player List"", on the front page of the thread. They are not yet full players. Rules of old players apply to them unless stated otherwise. The mod will edit the title of the thread so that the text ""(Signups are re-open)"" is visible again.

"

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(1)Lunar_Tick

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(4)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 12:01p.m.

P184

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Lunar_Tick

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Every player who joins the game from here onwards will be given 2000$$$.

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(1)Lunar_Tick

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(4)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 12:01p.m.

P185

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Lunar_Tick

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New

players are not allowed to kill old players.

New

players may kill other new players, but only after 48 hours of their own and their targets existence in the game.

[col]

(1)Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 12:01p.m.

P186

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Lunar_Tick

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Every time a

new

player buys or sells an item to the market place, they are fined 5% of the buying or selling price of that item for being new. This charge is collected from every item and every

new

player and rounded up before being put into the Big Pot of Gold. The Mod shares out the contents of the Big Pot of Gold at the end of the day to all the players who are neither on the Hiatus list nor on the New player list, equally. The remainder, if there is one, is kept in the big pot until the next day.

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(1)Lunar_Tick

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(4)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 12:01p.m.

P187

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Lunar_Tick

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New

players may be removed from the New player list by voting. After a minimum of 72 hours are passed from a

new

player's entrance to the game, he can state publicly in the thread that he wished to leave the New player list. The remaining non-

new

players vote for or against the player's ascension. A

new

player stops being a

new

player if he gets 50% of the votes or more.

[col]

(1)Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 12:01p.m.

P188

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Lunar_Tick

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New

players may not buy an ability during the first 72 hours of existence in this game.

[col]

(1)Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 12:01p.m.

[Juls]

OH yes, forgot to mention that 190 and 191 were proposed.

[Juls]

P192-P194 have been proposed.

xelada has 26.5 hours to get his balance out of the negative or he will be evicted from the game.

The following rules have failed.

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P#

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Author

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Rule

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Yeas

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Nays

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Expires

P169

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Drench

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A second/third win condition is hereby declared: the first person with 1,000,000,000$$$ (one billion) will be declared the winner of Nomic II. This and the win condition portion of Rule 15 will become a Silver Rule exactly 3 weeks after this rule is passed.

Mod Note: Requires 2/3 + 1 majority to pass because it modifies a silver rule

[col]

(3)Moratorium, chenhsi, Drench

[col]

(4)skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 19, 2009 2:58a.m.

[Juls]

I originally thought 12 hours but then I figured everyone would complain that they couldn't make kills for like 4 days.

[Juls]

Kill Attempts:

6. Kill Attempt on Lunar_Tick with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Lunar_Tick from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #6.

7. Kill Attempt on Moratorium with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Moratorium from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #7.

8. Kill Attempt on Drench with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Drench from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #8.

9. Kill Attempt on Dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #9.

10. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #10.

11. Kill Attempt on skitzer with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save skitzer from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #11.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

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Author

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Rule

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Yeas

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Nays

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Expires

P193

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anonymous

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If at any point there are only three active players with voting rights left in the game, all proposals are proposed anonymously.

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, yabbaguy, Drench

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(1)chenhsi

[col]

Jun 23, 2009 2:19a.m.

The following rules have failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P189

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anonymous

[col]

Players cannot Save themselves. All those rich people can't regenerate themselves infinitely now.

[col]

(3)chenhsi, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 21, 2009 1:38p.m.

P190

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anonymous

[col]

"If a player's inventory is full, a player may buy marketplace items and they are put in an entity called ""storage"". Players do not have infinite storage capacity, nor do they start with any.

To buy up to 15 items over the 50 item max a player must pay 1000$$$.
To buy up to 30 items over the 50 item max a player must pay 1500$$$.
To buy up to 45 items over the 50 item max a player must pay 2000$$$.

Items in storage may not be sold or used in kills or saves.
When free space opens in the player's inventory, the earliest stored item in storage is put into the inventory, and thus can be sold or used."

[col]

(1)Drench

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi

[col]

Jun 22, 2009 12:09p.m.

P191

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anonymous

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Each day, the mod chooses a random number from 300 to 900 (inclusive) and takes from each player that amount of money. This sum is divided among the non-hiatus, non-new, non-negative-balanced players and is used to buy the most expensive item affordable for each non-hiatus, non-new, non-negative-balanced player. Any leftovers (from dividing or buying) are given to the player with the least positive balance. If a player receives an item in this way and his or her inventory is full, the player is given, in $$$, the exact value of that item (as designated by that day's selling price in the market).

[col]

(0)

[col]

(5)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Drench

[col]

Jun 22, 2009 12:09p.m.

P194

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Moderator Proposed

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Each week when the market is regenerated, the players will take turns accessing the market in 6 hour increments. Once all players have had solo access to the market it is open to all players for the remainder of the week. No transactions involving items may be completed during the total solo access time frame (e.g. kill attempts, etc.). The order of access will be randomly generated the first week. Each week after that, the first person to access the market (i.e. the first person on the list) will go to the bottom of the list for the following week access.

[col]

(1)chenhsi

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, yabbaguy, Drench

[col]

Jun 23, 2009 6:48a.m.

[Juls]

@yabbaguy - yes 2 items were used on Lunar_Tick

P195 was proposed. I have made a mistake, it is unfair to the offended player and I would like to fairly rectify it. Please consider this proposal and know the same could happen to you. Think of it as insurance on your money.

[Juls]

@Lunar_Tick - I have not made a mistake that I can recall until this point. It occurred because I manually changed something incorrectly when I was testing something in my program. Lesson learned: save off a copy of data before I test anything.

Like I said I will do my best to not make another mistake but I want you guys to have some insurance against it and it not be a tough luck situation. I am not sure anyone really notices but this game is a shit-ton of work and I am falliable.

[Juls]

Took a Nomic break tonight...will update all things tomorrow. Remember kills coming tomorrow...get those save attempts in.

[Juls]

Per rule 22, xelada was ejected from the game effective Wednesday, at 9:30a.m. CDT.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game

[mrow]

P#

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Author

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Rule

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Yeas

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Nays

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Expires

P192

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anonymous

[col]

If at any point there are only two active players with voting rights left in the game, the player with the highest balance wins.

[col]

(6)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(1)chenhsi

[col]

Jun 23, 2009 2:19a.m.

P195

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Moderator Proposed

[col]

The moderator will do her utmost to perform all monetary transactions without error. However, if the moderator makes a mistake in transactions involving Nomic Bucks, and is unable to determine the exact $$$ amount of the error, the moderator will pay a compensation of 500 $$$ to the offended party. Note, all Nomic Buck transactions are performed in whole dollar increments. Therefore, if partial nomic bucks exist they are rounded down.

[col]

(6)Moratorium, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick, Drench

[col]

(0)

[col]

Jun 23, 2009 11:19p.m.

Kill's / Save's coming at 7:03p.m. CDT or later (but 7:03p.m. is cutoff)

[Juls]

And here we go...

6. Kill Attempt on Lunar_Tick with 20% chance of success.

If the following roll is 1 or 2 then Lunar_Tick is killed.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

7. Kill Attempt on Moratorium with 20% chance of success.

If the following roll is 1 or 2 then Moratorium may be killed.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

Save attempt with a 60% chance of success.

If the kill on Moratorium is successful and the dice is a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 then Moratorium is saved.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

8. Kill Attempt on Drench with 20% chance of success.

If the following roll is 1 or 2 then Drench may be killed.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

Public save attempt by yabbaguy with 20% chance of success.

If the kill on Drench is successful and the dice is a 1 or 2 then Drench is saved.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

9. Kill Attempt on Dizardin with 20% chance of success.

If the following roll is 1 or 2 then Dizardin may be killed.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

Public save attempt by yabbaguy with 20% chance of success.

If the kill on dizardin is successful and the dice is a 1 or 2 then dizardin is saved.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

Save attempt with 100% of success. No need to roll the dice, no matter what, dizardin is saved.

10. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success.

If the following roll is 1 or 2 then yabbaguy is killed.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

11. Kill Attempt on skitzer with 20% chance of success.

If the following roll is 1 or 2 then skitzer is killed.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

If I missed any save attempts let me know (privately) and I will correct.

[Juls]

EVERYONE LIVES!!!!!

[Juls]

BTW, P196 through P198 have been proposed.

[Juls]

Rule 199 has been proposed but you all should know a few things before voting:

1) Saturday is our anniversary and we are spending the night away from home. I don't intend on bringing my laptop so Sunday's update will be a little later than normal.

2) Sunday is father's day so he will be spending time with our daughter.

3) I sleep in on Saturday's, he sleeps in on Sunday's. Fat chance he is giving that up.

4) I don't let him look at my screen when I am updating so therefore he will have to watch me on my computer for any length of time before he "knows" if I am updating or not. He has a short attention span. :p

[Juls]

I'm away for the weekend. I will likely push back market until Monday morning because I have my anniversary today and a test to study for.

[Juls]

Sorry guys but I am swamped studying for a test and have no time to update. I will do an update tonight including marketplace when I get home from school. I apologize for the inconvenience.

[Juls]

-The marketplace has been regenerated.

-The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game. P197 is a "red" rule because Rule 18 states:

"When a player attempts a Kill or Save, they may request the mod announce that specifically they were the ones attempting the action. If no preference is specified, the attempts remain anonymous."

and SR4 states:

"When two rules contradict, the rule with the lower rule number takes priority. "

Therefore, rule 197 cannot be executed unless Rule 18 has changed. As with all decisions, you are welcome to protest.

[mrow]

P#

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Author

[col]

Rule

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Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P196

[col]

anonymous

[col]

If a player who has commenced saving or killing actions is killed, ejected from the game, or place on the hiatus list, then all saving and killing actions by this player on other players are canceled immediately.

[col]

(5)Moratorium, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(1)dizardin

[col]

Jun 25, 2009 6:30p.m.

P197

[col]

anonymous

[col]

Once this rule passes, the perpetrator of the 6 kill attempts in post 875 shall be exposed by name in a post by the Mod.
(So we don't point fingers at chenhsi in vain)

[col]

(4)skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(2)Moratorium, yabbaguy

[col]

Jun 25, 2009 6:30p.m.

-The following rules have failed.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yeas

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P198

[col]

anonymous

[col]

"Repeal rule 16, which states: ""Players may not carry more than 50 items at any given time. "". Anyone who votes Yay to this proposal gets 1000$$$ on its passing."

[col]

(2)dizardin, Lunar_Tick

[col]

(4)Moratorium, skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

Jun 25, 2009 6:30p.m.

P199

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

The Cheater's Auction:

The following event is up for auction. Bids are to be made publicly in thread, and may include NomicBucks, Marketplace items, or any other item, promise, or declaration. Moratorium will deem who is considered the current highest bidder, and declare as such in thread.

Moratorium will wake up very early Sunday morning, and follow his wife around until he sees that she is about to update the marketplace. At that point, he will send a warning email to the address of the auction winner's choice, to warn him/her of the impending update of the marketplace. Moratorium will make no purchases from the marketplace for one hour following the update.

[col]

(2)Moratorium, dizardin

[col]

(4)skitzer, chenhsi, yabbaguy, Lunar_Tick

[col]

Jun 25, 2009 7:52p.m.

[Juls]

yabbaguy...do

NOT

edit your posts in which you make a transaction or a vote. That is prohibited. Consider this your warning.

[Juls]

Kill Attempts:

12. Kill Attempt on Drench with 100% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Drench from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #12.

13. Kill Attempt on skitzer with 100% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save skitzer from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #13.

Rule 200 has been proposed.

[Juls]

Kill Attempts:

14. Kill Attempt on Lunar_Tick with 80% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Lunar_Tick from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #14.

[Juls]

Both Drench and skitzer die. There were no attempts at the save.

[Juls]

And here we go...

14. Kill Attempt on Lunar_Tick with 80% chance of success.

If the following roll is 1 through 8 then Lunar_Tick is killed, 9 or 10 means Lunar_Tick is not killed.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

Save attempt with 80% chance of success.

If the kill on Lunar_Tick is successful and the dice is a 1 through 8 then Lunar_Tick is saved.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

[Juls]

Lunar_Tick has been killed.

[Juls]

~Marketplace has been regenerated.

~Kill Attempts:

15. Kill Attempt on Moratorium with 100% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Moratorium from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #15.

[Juls]

~Kill Attempts:

16. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #16.

17. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #17.

18. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #18.

19. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #19.

20. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #20.

21. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #21.

22. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #22.

23. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #23.

24. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #24.

25. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #25.

26. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #26.

27. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #27.

28. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #28.

29. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #29.

30. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #30.

31. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #31.

32. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #32.

33. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #33.

34. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #34.

35. Kill Attempt on dizardin with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save dizardin from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #35.

36. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #36.

37. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #37.

38. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #38.

39. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #39.

40. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #40.

41. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #41.

42. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #42.

43. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #43.

44. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #44.

45. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #45.

46. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #46.

47. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #47.

48. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #48.

49. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #49.

50. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #50.

51. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #51.

52. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #52.

53. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #53.

54. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #54.

55. Kill Attempt on yabbaguy with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save yabbaguy from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #55.

[Juls]

Kill Attempts:

56. Kill Attempt on chenhsi with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save chenhsi from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #56.

57. Kill Attempt on chenhsi with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save chenhsi from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #57.

[Juls]

Kill Attempts:

58. Kill Attempt on Moratorium with 20% chance of success. All players have 48 hours to save Moratorium from this attempt. Note if attempting to save on this one, please indicate attempt to save on Kill #58.

[Juls]

Per rule 24:

24.

All rulings of the panel are publically announced.


I am required to make you aware of a ruling by the panel. By a 2-1 vote, the panel has determined that no ability effecting a kill or save can be used on a kill or save that was submitted before purchasing the ability.

(e.g. A player cannot use the bullet proof ability to reduce the success percentage if the kill was submitted prior to the targetted player acquiring the ability.)

[Juls]

Bleh. Ain't worth the effort.
/out

<====sad face

[Juls]

@chenhsi: Table is updated. Sorry I neglected to update it yesterday after your purchases.

@dizardin: I think that you would be a much better mod for this game than I am. I tend to be more of a "spirit of the game" person than a "rules loophole" person. I did not realize how much so until this game. That is the primary reason I created the panel. I would be willing to turn it over to you if you wanted it.

[Juls]

This is going to be quick and dirty because I don't have a lot of time.

-Kill attempt 15 on Moratorium 100% was saved 100%
-Kill attempts 16-35 are not necessary because dizardin has /out'd
-Kill attempts 36-55..there were no save attempts so if any of these are 1's or 2's then yabbaguy is killed.

36.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

37.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

38.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (9) = 9

39.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

40.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

41.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (10) = 10

42.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (10) = 10

43.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

44.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (9) = 9

45.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

46.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

47.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (9) = 9

48.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

49.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

50.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (7) = 7

51.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

52.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

53.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

54.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

55.

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

If any of these are successful the game is over so I will do 56-58 in following posts if necessary.

[Juls]

On kill attempt 37 yabbaguy is killed.

That leaves Moratorium and chenshi as the only active players. Per rule 33:

33. If at any point there are only two active players with voting rights left in the game, the player with the highest balance wins.

Moratorium has won Nomic II with a balance of 5197 $$$. Congratulations!

I will draw up notes after I return from my trip (on Monday). Thank you all for playing it was fun.

[Juls]

The most recent kill attempts were by Moratorium (the big block of 40). He saw you, chenhsi, as the person with the least amount of money and knew if it got down to 2 it would be the one with the most money.


Everyone thank our panel if you see them around: Artem, SpyreX, and Vi.

[Juls]

I wrote a C++ program to help me manage the voting and another one to help me manage the marketplace/Nomic bucks.

(Notes to come next week, still on vacation)