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I think DL always acts this way...and I still don't understand post 74 at all.
In general, I also don't get the big deal with the chainsaw defense thing.
@Sabre: What's the big deal about not RVing? Why is being dogmatic scummy?
I find the whole thing confirming Konowa as town due to him voting Sabre is ridiculous.
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I don't like the the Yarmond Wagon
184: He would probably be replaced way before lylo.
190: Why vote Albert? I've Contributed much less.
199-216: I agree with Albert.
218: He never said that. You're misrepping.
220: I can find one...
227: What was his defense?
239: Hewitt
253: WHat does "You both are scumtells and nulltells" mean.
hewitt: Which of your posts do you think are contributive?
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SeriouslyDarkLight wrote: Defending a player who isn't here?? SERIOUSLY????
Ellibereth not elizabeth.farside wrote: Just reading elizabeth's post 276. Why are you voting hewitt? Nothing in that post shows a reason. How is hewitt misrep? Why are you taking one side over the other?
Cause I think he's scum.
He had a misrep in 218.
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I try to stop but it's too addicting...but I still don't see where in that post CSl said you were the top contributor.hewitt wrote:
That's my misrep Ellibereth? It's dangerous to smoke crack and then play Mafia, be careful.hewitt wrote:
This is kind of a funny little misrepresentation here. When did I ever state that I've been a top contributor?CSL wrote:hewitt, I'm going to have to agree with ABR on this one. You have not contributed at all. I know I haven't contributed much either, but that's because I don't see anything that sets off my scumdar, EXCEPT this.-
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OK...I read through everything but I'm not completely sure what to post that isn't just repeated what people said...I'll be happy to answer any questions though.
To be honest, I think that Neto, DLA are scum...I didn't really find Neto's answer to hewitt's case that convincing.
CSL and saber both seem to have a history of self-voting and vote jumping so I think those are both null.
Albert, do you no longer think that hewitt is definitely scum? It seems the wagon on him fell apart when CSl started getting erratic.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Why can't it be used as a real one?hewitt wrote:
...That wasn't even a real case that was a fake case. I don't think Netopalis is scummy at all and that "case" didn't need a response from him.Ellibereth wrote:To be honest, I think that Neto, DLA are scum...I didn't really find Neto's answer to hewitt's case that convincing.-
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Why do I have to acknowledge it? It seemed pretty obvious...Netopalis wrote:Acknowledge that CSL is no longer playing, for one thing.
Also, explain how a 3rd-person pronoun which is uncapitalized is supposed to be a complete sentence. Seriously. You can't just make words into sentences by adding periods to the end of them.
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SerialClergyman: CSL's play seemed to be consistent with all his other games EXCEPT for the self-vote. While SC's wall was really impressive, I lean more toward scum due to CSL's play.
hewitt: I originally thought he was scum, but I don't think scum would rant that much and now he feels more town. Wierd the way he defended Neto though.
Albert B. Rampage: Seems confident and sure about everything. I also like reading his posts the most. Town.
saberwolf: I don't like his play and he confuses me a lot. I can never tell when he's serious and when he's not. Using the meta excuse for everything is pretty bad IMO and I feel he needs to be lynched sooner or later.
Shotty to the Body: I originally thought of him as neutral but after after reading SC's post, it makes him seem much more scummier...
Netopalis: I'm not really sure why, but my gut leans scum. Seems to suspect anyone who presents someonething without a concrete case
kikuchiyo: Her early play felt like town, but hasn't really done much since then. Neutral, leaning town.
DarkLightA: I don't understand what he says. I played with him in an ongoing game now which I can't discuss. He feels more like scum here.
farside22: Seems to be farily normal town player.
saberwolf: I don't like his play and he confuses me a lot. I can never tell when he's serious and when he's not. Using the meta excuse for everything is pretty bad IMO and I feel he needs to be lynched sooner or later if no scum is caught. Neutral, leaning both ways.
Ojanen: I didn't get much from Konowa's play, but the whole meta thing with saber was interesting. Neutral
KittyMo: Nothing. neutral.
So Scum are: Neto, Shotty, DLA, Serial. One too many...
Yes, I know the above has close to no to no real logic in it, it's just my feeling.
I'm goingUnvote, Vote Shottysince he's the one in the three closest to being lynched.
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That's because you clearly have not read this game.Ellibereth wrote:I don't see what's so pro-town about Neto...
So anyone who doesn't think he's town hasn't read the game?
I'll admit everything here is true except for the first sentence.SerialClergyman wrote: Ellibereth is scum. That is an epic case of hold on for the ride bandwagoning. His entire play has been 'I agree'.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Ok...I read through all of Neto's posts:
#8: He agrees that meta is overrated, but still uses DLA's meta as an excuse for DLA's play.
#15: Says he will vote for DLA only if he doesn't put him in the danger zone. Later says it is to encourage DLA to post better. I don't see how that works.
#21: Says that Hewitt is the "easy target" scum found. I dunno, I think it would have been me, saber or DLA...
#27: Why are day 1 lynches worse than random? Why did you choose DLA and hewitt as the least useful people that you can get a read on others from? And did you ever do the hewitt reread?
#28: Hasn't voted for either CSL and DLA yet, after suggesting policy lynch.
#35: He sounds like voting Albert was some sort of inevitable result. Why so sure DLA is the best play of the day? You haven't even voted for him.
#36: Ooh! Ooh! Isn't the last sentence lining up lynches?
#38: Why doesn't what the original player did pass over? I disagree.
#41: It's what Saber's been doing the whole game, why only mention it now?
#46: Wants a polivy lynch here again.
#55: Continues to vote for people because they'll be dangerous or playing bad. Not because he thinks they are scum.
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Are we suppose to believe you when you say you aren't scum?Netopalis wrote: Personally, to me, it looks like he's just said that because you accused him of bussing... I know he can't *actually* be bussing because I'm not scum!
I'd be perfectly happy with lynching Serial just because of CSL's play, but I think Neto's much scummier.-
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Can't wait.Netopalis wrote:Alright. Thanks for your input, Elibereth. You've been extremely, extremely helpful.
*scribbles*
Tell me, Elibereth, why do you think that I'm asking you about shoes?
Once we hear from Saber, I will release the wealth of information that this just gave me in regards to your play.-
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Whatever you say.Netopalis wrote:Elibereth: You're a girl until you earn the right to have a username that confuses your physical gender with your preferred presented gender.
Saber: My test was fairly simple: You both exhibited a pattern of agreeing with the last thing that was said. Elibereth did. You didn't. That means that this sort of automatic regurgitation is no excuse for your actions - there is, apparently, at least some independent thought in there. Now, here's a trowel, a bag of potting soil and a watering can. Plant that seed of independent thought, nurture it, then eventually it will grow into something glorious.
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Meh, I disagree about the self-vote-not-a-scumtell thing, especially in this case.kikuchiyo wrote:In any case, self voting is not a scumtell. Ever. I would say it more often than not is a townsperson acting stupid. I see nothing which indicates SC as scum. It seems that we should be lynching Netopalis, ABR, Shotty or Farside.
Where did Farside come from?
Sorry, I don't get what you mean here .I think that if we lynch from the pairs of those opposed to one another that we would either hit scum, or reveal that the other player is scum, no? But I guess that circles back to the discussion on setting up lynches.
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Serial: Why would you call a player slot that has close to no posts scummy? It seems it was mostly because of RL reasons...
Shotty: Do you still suspect DLA after Albert flipped town?
Scig: Where did SC quote 'em? Can't find it....
Kik: Don't you think it would have been better to wait a while before you hammered?
I'm a bit short of time right now, but my top suspects are Shotty and DLA. I'll explain why when I get back.FLASH OF GREEN-
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Meh...Serial just replaced in for CSL so he had to be pretty convincing to avoid getting lynched. I don't think it would have been a problem for him to a launch an attack on his buddies to make himself look better.farside22 wrote:
Yeah but SC started a case on shotty which is why I have pause on that. If I think of of DLA or SC scum based on neto defense then I have to wonder about shotty with SC trying to get him lynched.Ellibereth wrote:Shotty and Neto were avoiding each other Day 1 IMO.
Shotty didn't even mention Neto until Albert started pushing
And then he put some crap up like:ABR where did you go? I need you to talk about Neto.I need to reread Neto and someone else
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[quote=Serial]
at the same time that Shotty was saying Albert was scum with DLA, he then turned around and buddied Albert pretty hard and started to talk his way onto the Neto wagon. I don't usually join the wagon of my top suspect nor do I 'talk to them about it' first. I thought that was particularly odd. [/quote]
Odd in a good way or a bad way?
The thing is Shotty only he said he wanted to talk about Neto, reread Neto etc. He didn't indicate the intention he wanted Neto to be the D1 lynch.
Where did Shotty buddy Albert?FLASH OF GREEN-
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Odd in a good way or a bad way?Serial wrote: at the same time that Shotty was saying Albert was scum with DLA, he then turned around and buddied Albert pretty hard and started to talk his way onto the Neto wagon. I don't usually join the wagon of my top suspect nor do I 'talk to them about it' first. I thought that was particularly odd.
The thing is Shotty only he said he wanted to talk about Neto, reread Neto etc. He didn't indicate the intention he wanted Neto to be the D1 lynch.
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Saber's not playing anymore, and I honestly have no idea what to think of him. Main reason for this is is I don't know if he was playing to win or cared about the result...
I already said, I think Shotty had a good idea that DLA was not going to be the day 1 lynch.Serial wrote:Shotty being very aggressive towards him on D1 makes him more likely to be town in my eyes.
Shotty looks like the best lynch.
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The whole DLA vs. Serial argument is just begging for a massive amount of WIFOM. Not going to think about it right now.
Shotty's still scum, look at his interactions with/concerning Neto:
Irrelevant talk
Suddenly wants to talk to Albert about Neto after launching attack on DLA + Albert.
Neto reread plus "someone else"
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Meh.
SC! I know you're there! Drop your argument with DLA a sec. Don't you still think that Shotty's scum?
And DLA, if you're so intent on following Albert, You know he did say he believed hewitt's claim.-
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Serial wrote: The problem isn't buddying - thep roblem is he was scum according to your theory of the game. I thought Albert was town, i said so repeatedly and make no apology for it. You outlined a theory that you fought tooth and nail for, apparantly, that had DLA scumbuddies with ABR and then just sort of stopped that theory and started buddying Albert by pushing to 'talk to him' about the Neto wagon. You don't see anything wrong or unusual about that?Elli wrote:Shotty, who was the someone else when you said you had to reread Neto and someone else?-
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Shotty, these two off the top of my head...tired as hell right now, post more later:
Ellibereth wrote:Serial wrote: The problem isn't buddying - thep roblem is he was scum according to your theory of the game. I thought Albert was town, i said so repeatedly and make no apology for it. You outlined a theory that you fought tooth and nail for, apparantly, that had DLA scumbuddies with ABR and then just sort of stopped that theory and started buddying Albert by pushing to 'talk to him' about the Neto wagon. You don't see anything wrong or unusual about that?Elli wrote:Shotty, who was the someone else when you said you had to reread Neto and someone else?-
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