Mini 1439 -- Game Over

[Bacde]

/confirm

[Bacde]

Vote:chillkid

[Bacde]

things seem to be going well in this thread

[Bacde]

tbh I think #32 and #36 are scummy

[Bacde]

What do you think of chillkid's #32?

Personally, I think it's a town tell, as he does raise a good point. Just look at some of the past newbie games, there has been amazing newbie scum, and we shouldn't avoid scrutinizing someone because they are new.

Aww, I was all set to sheep you all game because of the awesome avatar, but you had to do something like that.

random question, do you vote people for things you are about to do?

[Bacde]

well, for one it gets reactions

such as you being overly defensive to my barely typed out post

[Bacde]

It was more for the point on #32, didn't realise #36 was my post.

It might well get reactions, but it gives you negative coverage in the long run.

how much do you edit your posts when you write?

[Bacde]

ok so qwints is town stop messing with me dude I'm gonna mislynch you again

[Bacde]

Bacde, what did you get from your reaction test? Do you think Fegelein is scum?

it wasn't really a reaction test it was just me posting my opinions

but no I don't think Fegelein is scum

[Bacde]

It was more for the point on #32, didn't realise #36 was my post.

It might well get reactions, but it gives you negative coverage in the long run.

how much do you edit your posts when you write?

What is that supposed to achieve?
To answer your question, whenever a new post is made, I edit my post accordingly.

I wanted to know because scum posts take longer to write than town posts

and you took 5 minutes to respond to a post where your response should have been quick and natural (you said that you didn't notice #36)

that is as much as I want to let you window into my thought processes right now

[Bacde]

^^Oh geez, don't start typing like that or I'm going to start ignoring it

please please please please please please

[Bacde]

my name isn't bacade

its bacde!

[Bacde]

secret agent sloth is getting more and more awkward

[Bacde]

haha i love you secret agent sloth

[Bacde]

I wanted to see how he would respond

[Bacde]

@RedDragon
Who do you think are possible scums on the Cowbell wagon?

yolo
possibly bcade

vote: yolo

No, I joined that wagon because I wanted to see it go to L-2. In other words, I did not join because I was convinced of RC's scummyness, but because I thought a big RC wagon could give us some information. It did (in my opinion).

this couldn't possibly be scummy in any way. There is no way on earth that this could possibly be opportunistic.

I wanted to see how he would respond

mhhhm

how can you possibly think that yolo and I are both possible scums based on our exchange with each other?

do you think we are on a team or are you just stating a general suspicion you have on both of our slots

[Bacde]

I actually liked the qwints vote

[Bacde]

So as far as I can gather, SAS is voting me for being experienced.


Cheery Dog's last post raises a valid point in my opinion though, which I do agree with, despite the fact that we don't see eye to eye here.

Still waiting for Bacde to respond to my questions.

What questions?

[Bacde]

So as far as I can gather, SAS is voting me for being experienced.


Cheery Dog's last post raises a valid point in my opinion though, which I do agree with, despite the fact that we don't see eye to eye here.

Still waiting for Bacde to respond to my questions.

What questions?

Why #32 and #36 are scummy. It's old, but you've still successfully avoided my queries for about 100 posts.

it was just how I felt at the time

I thought I communicated this to you

[Bacde]

^^are you talking about kcudz?

[Bacde]

I have 2 main reasons why I feel Bacde is one of our better lynches:
1: Says that #32 and #36 are scummy, never expands on it, despite me asking. Looks like he's avoiding my question.

2: Red Dragon gave good reasoning, he's basically not helping the Town scumhunt also.

I'm also getting bad feelings about SAS (bandwagoned me, with no explanation, and a lack of contributions anyway), Norfolk (his only post was a simple vote, with no explanation), Cheery Dog (his reasoning into voting me is really odd, but on the other hand, his recent posts are better) and Radiant (don't let him get off the hook so early for the things he's done)

Null reads on qwints, YOLO, Alex and chillkid.

Town on Ztife, Red Dragon and MrBump.

dude I feel like I've explained myself to you and answered your questions like 3 times by now, what aren't you getting?

[Bacde]

So as far as I can gather, SAS is voting me for being experienced.


Cheery Dog's last post raises a valid point in my opinion though, which I do agree with, despite the fact that we don't see eye to eye here.

Still waiting for Bacde to respond to my questions.

What questions?

Why #32 and #36 are scummy. It's old, but you've still successfully avoided my queries for about 100 posts.

it was just how I felt at the time

I thought I communicated this to you

[Bacde]

So, it was gut feeling?

mostly

[Bacde]

^^YES

THAT is why I didn't like #36

I don't understand why you kept making hedgey comments like the bolded one above if you were trying to make opinionated posts to get us out of RVS

[Bacde]

Yeah I'm completely serious

I guess you could take it as "parroting" but considering that I stated that I didn't like the post before Venmar ever did I don't know why you would assume that my reasons for thinking the post was bad depended on Venmar saying the post was bad, (Venmar = Secret Agent Sloth)

rather than just me agreeing with Venmar's reasoning about

WHY

the post was bad, which is what I did

In fact, you moving SAS up to town category when he's pointing out why your posts could be perceived as scummy is super scummy imo

[Bacde]

The fact of the matter is that I have been chasing you for your proper thoughts for most of the game, and you have not given me a very clear answer. Now that SAS has posted a clearer answer, you say "Yeah, that's what I meant by scummy"

Also, how is it scummy if SAS is accusing me and I don't think it's scummy? Think from his point of view. His reasoning is original and it makes sense to him, even though I disagree with it.

Just because you said it was scummy first doesn't mean you're not parroting SAS's post here.

JUST BECAUSE

I said it was scummy first doesn't mean that I'm not parroting SAS's post here,

so you're gonna have to take my word for it--I'm not. I was just agreeing with it. He was able to say with words the things about that post that I didn't like that I was unable to express. Since you didn't like my explanation I thought I would agree with someone else's that would make more sense to you.

I mean, I feel as though I gave you a pretty clear answer twice, and you've been hounding me for something that in your opinion should be false reasoning anyway, so I don't understand why you've been so adamant about pursuing me to keep repeating my answer to you

Also, its super scummy to see someone and think "Yeah, their logic and reasoning is wrong, that really establishes them as town or leaning-town"

But SAS thinking you are scum should be something that you should know is false, yet you townread him for it? Seems fishy

[Bacde]

^^That's sort of a misrep

I gave you clear answers about how I felt about #32 and #36--I just felt like they were scummy

You asked me how posting my opinion without explanation was possibly protown, to which I responded that it can get reactions

So you saying that I expressed my opinion just "to get reactions" is a misrep and probably a big part of why you are misperceiving me--I wasn't posting to "get reactions", I was just posting. And just posting is good because it CAN get reactions

And I haven't avoided your question at all, I've been reiterating my point that it was mostly gut and I just felt like they were scum posts

Why can't you accept that as an answer?

What counts as an acceptable answer to you? Because a LOT of my reasonings in ALL of my games has to do with gut and intuition

When I tried to further explain my reasoning by agreeing with someone else who I felt captured my feelings well, you now say that its scummy for me to attempt to answer your question?

Its weird to me that I've been answering your question all thread, yet you still harp on me about answering it, and when I find someone else's post that expresses my feelings you find that even scummier? I don't understand why you keep asking me questions when you are clearly not going to pay attention to the answers

[Bacde]

But SAS thinking you are scum should be something that you should know is false, yet you townread him for it? Seems fishy

"You don't OMGUS him, you must be scum!"

Eh, I'm not saying that he MUST be scum

but town are more likely to OMGUS than townread whoever is attacking them

[Bacde]

look if you really think its my scum master plan to get away with saying "gut" for all of my reasonings and somehow convincing all of the town to vote alongside with me despite my lack of a good argument (?) then go ahead and vote me

because you are getting really riled up about gut reads that I had on p2

and you are getting really riled up about me being honest and not just trying to make up shit answers and telling you straight up it was gut

and you are getting really riled up about me agreeing with another poster's reasoning against you

[Bacde]

eh fuck it

Vote: Fegelein

i dont buy it

[Bacde]

look if you really think its my scum master plan to get away with saying "gut" for all of my reasonings and somehow convincing all of the town to vote alongside with me despite my lack of a good argument (?) then go ahead and vote me

Stop trying to use "I wouldn't do this as scum" as an excuse for your play, that makes it even worse for you now.

because you are getting really riled up about gut reads that I had on p2

My beef with this is that you completely copied SAS's reasoning as if to say "I was thinking that all along".

and you are getting really riled up about me being honest and not just trying to make up shit answers and telling you straight up it was gut

How am I supposed to know you are telling the truth?

and you are getting really riled up about me agreeing with another poster's reasoning against you

Because you said "I was thinking this all along" Why didn't you state it in the thread before SAS did?

Also, what happened to "No, I don't think Fegelein is scum"? Explain please.

@Qwints: mfw you voted me:

Look, the thing is that you are searching for something that isn't there

you are looking to make me trip up on myself or something but I'm not scum, and your search is going to be fruitless

its not my job to always post to whatever your "requirements" are for a townie player to be

I'm town, I don't have to prove that to you

I've already said multiple times that I posted what I did because they were my thoughts--and I didn't post what SAS had posted (despite me agreeing with the reasonings) because I hadn't collected my thoughts about the post in as easily-communicable manner as SAS had posted. To be honest--I didn't give a shit. It was a page 2 read. I didn't care enough to try to formulate communicable reasons. If you really think I'm trying to pawn off SAS's thoughts as my own then you are retarded. Yeah his thoughts are similar to the ones I had, and I thought you would accept that as an answer if you were searching for my reasoning, which now I don't think you are.

The issue here is that you for some reason or whatever can't accept that as an answer--yet you keep harping on me like I'm going to give you a different answer all of a sudden? I'm not. That is the answer.

The fact that you keep searching more and more like you think there is something more I am going to say is scummy--you are pushing for something that isn't there

and it fits in with you townreading someone for voting you, which is scummy

which fits in with you being hypersensitive and hyperaware of how other players are reading your slot, which is scummy

so yeah, back then I didn't think you were scum, but your repeated behavior and insistence that I answer questions that I already have reveals to me an attitude that I don't believe is town-aligned

[Bacde]

^^The only thing I got out of that post is "I'm going to argue against everything you say and not attempt to see if there is a possible town mindset coming out of this poster"

Which basically tells me that you aren't scumhunting, which makes me think even MORE that you are scum

Here's the thing: I told you that I've answered your questions

now you are saying "You could have TRIED instead to do this"

Well I didn't

I'm not TRYING to look town

I am town, I'm TRYING to find scum

How does it seem like I'm trying to avoid you

at all

basically every post of mine in this game has been addressed to you because of your ridiculous behavior

[Bacde]

ugh your posting style is so antitown

its hard to read

and you are annoyingly arguing against everything I say, instead of trying to come together to achieve understanding

whats worse, is rather than addressing my points, you just quote everything I say and create a "laundry list" of whats wrong. This is not how you achieve communication

Like seriously, if you want an example of how you are being antitown, consider this:

basically every post of mine in this game has been addressed to you because of your ridiculous behavior

Again, don't just say something and then don't back it up. Explain.

Explain what? Explain how most of my posts in this game have been addressed to you? Ok, they have. My example is this: check my ISO

I think you are expecting me to make some sort of "quote" post type analysis and are getting upset when thats just not what I wanted to do about P2

Basically, I think you are either scum or just way too overeager town who found something that you thought was slightly irksome (me not answering your question in the manner you would have liked) and are now misconstruing it as something thats scummy. Like in your post above, you seem to have a problem about the definition of the word "solid". I don't give a shit if you think my answer was solid or not, it was my answer. There wasn't more to it

Because I don't understand why else you would possibly still be pushing my behavior as scummy

I'm communicating to you clearly and truthfully, and that is protown

I'm trying to communicate my points to you, that is protown

I'm listening to and considering your arguments, that is protown

I haven't ever once tried to dismiss you, even your ridiculous insistence that I answer your questions that I answered multiple times, that is protown

so yes, its easy for me to discuss behaviors that I am engaging

in this game

that are protown

[Bacde]

Unvote

my heart isn't in lynching fegel right now

[Bacde]

anyone think fegel and mrbump and ztife/red dragon are our scum team?

how cool would that be

[Bacde]

Yeah I didn't like chillkid's hop onto fegelein

that didn't feel natural

who wants to counterwagon go go go

Vote: Chillkid

[Bacde]

Yeah I didn't like chillkid's hop onto fegelein

that didn't feel natural

who wants to counterwagon go go go

Vote: Chillkid

How do you feel a post, lick your computer screen and see if it tastes good?

no thats how you taste a post

you have to use your hand

[Bacde]

something about chillkid seems a little too...


...chill

AAAAAaaahhhhhh

[Bacde]

something about chillkid seems a little too...


...chill

AAAAAaaahhhhhh

The fact that you only just noticed this means you need to ketchup to the rest of us.

this is an eggsellent post

[Bacde]

I'm a big fan of Om this game

@Fegel, who is your second-to-top scumspect? Because that is who you should be chasing down, since I'm town

[Bacde]

^^I need someone better than fegel to wagon though

[Bacde]

meh I could state my opinion about my passive play but I'll just respond to others' comments about it

[Bacde]

qwints is a tough cookie to crack

[Bacde]

^^Please post more qwints

[Bacde]

^^Explanation?

[Bacde]

i might join a bump wagon

[Bacde]

Unvote

Om how do I know that you are not just charismatic scum

b/c I'm not exactly sure what I should be looking for here and you seem to know for somer eason

explain it to me

run me through uyour htoughs

[Bacde]

so you think scum is bump and thus possibly fegel by extension

[Bacde]

so you think scum is bump and thus possibly fegel by extension

[Bacde]

D_j is town

that much is clear

D_J when are you gonna start doing something though

[Bacde]

Ehh, even though I don't find DJ that scummy, there's a possibility that he is scum, but that only applies if Om is Town.

Unsure where I stand on this Om wagon. Will think about it.

this doesn't make any sense

fegel are you scum?

[Bacde]

yeah, I'm really happy with my om vote. Flailing scum is flailing scum. Anyway, time to do real work.

Please point out the flail to me

as one townie to another

since I don't see it but would love to be convinced :3

[Bacde]

As bad as Om looks right now

I don't think that "Yeah, someone who self-metas as town would TOTALLY do it as scum to trick us" is a good reason to think Om is scum, since, ya know, Om also does that as town

I bet Om does it as scum though

@Om can you link us to some games where you self-metad as scum please?

[Bacde]

Ztife is town too

Guaranteed Town List

Bacde
Ztife
D_J

[Bacde]

what if DJ is town? Does that have any bearing on Om's alignment in your mind?

[Bacde]

Om of the Nom reads town to me here not so much for activity level but for what he's contributing. He's making cases rather than spamming in my estimation. qwints seems more confrontational here than when he's been scum, IIRC.

Bacde, I don't know that I follow how you got from:

I'm a big fan of Om this game

@Fegel, who is your second-to-top scumspect? Because that is who you should be chasing down, since I'm town

to:

As bad as Om looks right now

I don't think that "Yeah, someone who self-metas as town would TOTALLY do it as scum to trick us" is a good reason to think Om is scum, since, ya know, Om also does that as town

I bet Om does it as scum though

@Om can you link us to some games where you self-metad as scum please?

meh, I didn't really type my thought process

I was getting a little paranoid of om because he's being very diplomatic this game (diplomacy is a sign of scum)

and then other people started being suspicious of om so i didn't think it was crazy to start a post with "as bad as Om looks"

but if you'd notice post 402 was still somewhat of a defense of Om, as I didn't think the people voting for Om were doing so for the right reasons

[Bacde]

Just to going to show everyone my list I made:
TOWN
MrBump
Ztife
Red Dragon
Secret Agent Sloth
don_johnson
RadiantCowbells
penguin_alien
Om of the Nom
Cheery Dog
Bacde
evilpacman18 (for YOLO's play really, waiting for him to respond)
qwints
SCUM

I had a really tough time ranking everyone from Don to Om.

lol dude give it up admit that I'm town

[Bacde]

You didn't really answer my first point.

Also Bacde, I still hold earlier against you. Don't think that I just forgot about that.

lol whatever man

You gotta realize that I'm town or scum at some point man, I'm not both

I dunno why you are "holding things against me"

[Bacde]

mr bump and fegelein aren't scum together btw

but probably one of them is

fegel's reads list is crazy bad (and I'm not just talking about me being on the bottom) so I wouldn't be surprised if it is him.

MrBump might be one of those situations where its a tough townie to read (and everybody thinks hes scum) so the scum townread him to look good

[Bacde]

@Om of the Nom: my best condolences. I'm town in this game and will do my best to help you win (if you are town too)

Vote: Fegel

just realized that his reads don't make any sense

I can't see how Ztife goes as your second to top townread

i feel like you are piggybacking on me saying that Ztife goes in the "guaranteed town" pile which doesn't make any sense considering that you seem to want to think that I am scum and "hold things against me"

[Bacde]

And that's blatant hypocrisy, you piggybacked SAS's entire argument for a vote earlier, and claimed to see that as fine, yet you criticize me for stealing a read? (which I did not do, there is proof)

lemme see it

I'm not trying to misrepresent you

I'm just not going back and rereading to make all of my arguments, and its weird to me that you think Ztife is an awesome sauceome protown player when generally he is hard to read and is a target for mislynch by scum

[Bacde]

b/c I haven't really seen anything from Ztife this game thats made me think "wow thats protown"

I just read him as town

[Bacde]

Also, whats wrong with piggybacking on SAS if I think hes town?

I was pointing out that its bad to piggyback on people that you think are scum--it doesn't make sense from a town perspective

[Bacde]

And that's blatant hypocrisy,

you piggybacked SAS's entire argument for a vote earlier

, and claimed to see that as fine, yet you criticize me for stealing a read? (which I did not do, there is proof)

Explain how I was misrepping. Because I can assure that it was at least not my intention to do so.

I just feel that Ztife has the right town interest in mind, and seems to be geniunely scumhunting, without being overly concerned about their appearance.

Also, you did not piggyback on SAS

, let me refresh your memory.

You voted me with no real case against me.
SAS had a case against me.
You said "I was thinking that all along"

Also, #433, I really don't like how you have to say you are Town to Om. It just seems unorthodox.

what the fuck dude

do you have a coherent argument

I'm seriously trying to connect w/ you and figure this game out right now so if you are town you are doing a horrible job at it

[Bacde]

Explain how I was misrepping

. Because I can assure that it was at least not my intention to do so.

I just feel that Ztife has the right town interest in mind, and seems to be geniunely scumhunting, without being overly concerned about their appearance.

Also, you did not piggyback on SAS, let me refresh your memory.

You voted me with no real case against me.
SAS had a case against me.
You said "I was thinking that all along"

Also, #433, I really don't like how you have to say you are Town to Om. It just seems unorthodox.

1) I never said you were misrepping. You are jumping at arguments I'm not even making!

2) Do I seem like a generally orthodox player to you? What about "unorthodoxy" makes you not like it? (I am assuming that by "not liking" something you are implying that you think it is scummy)

[Bacde]

Explain how I was misrepping. Because I can assure that it was at least not my intention to do so.

I just feel that Ztife has the right town interest in mind, and seems to be geniunely scumhunting, without being overly concerned about their appearance.

Also, you did not piggyback on SAS, let me refresh your memory.

You voted me with no real case against me.
SAS had a case against me.
You said "I was thinking that all along"

Also, #433, I really don't like how you have to say you are Town to Om. It just seems unorthodox.

also I think you are remembering this event differently than it actually occured

Didn't I just say that a post of yours seemed kinda scummy (and didn't even vote it), to which you FREAKED OUT AND DEMANDED AN EXPLANATION, which I gave a few times, which was insufficient for you, so I tried to agree w/ someone else who gave a better explanation, which caused you to freak out even more

lol that last sentence started out as a question but I dunno what happened in the middle

[Bacde]

Did I vote you? I'ma go reread

[Bacde]

yeah dude I was voting chillkid at the time

[Bacde]

fegel are you scum? be honest

you are at the point where you are making things up to try to paint me as being scummy somehow

if you are town just admit that you are wrong about a few things

[Bacde]

lol fegel,

I'm not worried about you finding me scummy

I'm really not

So you can drop the whole "maybe if you had done this, then I wouldn't find you scummy" act

I'm just trying to help you see the light, bc I'm actually town

and if you are town you are ignoring every argument that I've actually presented just because you think you've found something and you are purposely blinding yourself to the possibility that its not there

quote where I said you were misrepresenting me, because I didn't

Why haven't you checked my meta yet to see if my playstyle is usually like this? That seems to me like the first thing I'd want to do if someone's playstyle was unorthodox or throwing me off

pedit- dude, just check the thread. I'm not going to argue with you about checkable facts. I was voting chillkid at the time. I voted him later today, but at the time of your FREAKOUT, I was voting chillkid

[Bacde]

IMO mrbump read fegelein wrong and thats why fegelein has him as his #1 townread

[Bacde]

I DO want you to be a doll and quote those good things from bump when you get back

thanks, much appreciated

[Bacde]

You said I was misrepresenting you.

Also, your second question I can't really answer, seeing as I haven't played any other games with you yet (too early to tell). But it just seems out of place for your average townie to just say "Don''t worry, I am Town, let's get scum"; contrived more than anything.

I could be wrong, but it's just some psychology.

Also, I never freaked out,

it's just that opinions don't stand for anything unless you explain

. Had you given a sufficient explanation (the ones that you gave me weren't, and I notified you saying that they weren't), then maybe I wouldn't find you as scummy as I do now.

dude obviously I didn't consider your post scummy enough to vote, why would I have felt the need to explain it?

[Bacde]

I could see a qwints/fegel team

[Bacde]

tbh I think #32 and #36 are scummy

I agree with this. #36 is the bigger scuminess by forcing comments that would probably have happened maturely. This was already happening in some cases already.

VOTE: fegelein

What some cases?

I get the impression that Fegelein is just impatient, but I'll vote him just to keep things going.

Vote: Fegelein

If he gets to l-1, I will retract my vote.

So what's the purpose of your vote then? What are you trying to pressure or get out of this bandwagon? By saying that you will unvote him at l-1 is counter-intuitive to any pressure you are trying to create, and it gives an opportunity for you to say you forget to unvote when a mislynch happens.

Vote:RadiantCowbells

How's childkid scummy?
Not the most pro-town behaviour though.

RC is still bad.

Feg seems too active for scum ATM, drawing too much attention.

Cherry dog seems opportunitistic.

Ok, now for YOLO;
post 95
Actually, a quick peek at RC's ISO shows a much more aggressive player than he is this game, thought this is not a point which I want to get much into.

post 246
How's childkid's behaviour any different from RC thus far? In fact, is this your "serious" vote or trying to get information?

From RC to SAS to childkid, seems pretty opportunistic to me.
How about your SAS vote whom you were so "serious" about lynching?
For someone who believes about competing wagons for D1, your plays have been pretty passive to me it seems.
What of the other players? MrBump? And what do you think of Bacde's passive play thus far? Do you think Om is scum hunting hard now?

What a surprise, Ztife, who is fegelein's 2nd to top townread, soft-defended fegel in two posts

lol fegel do you have any strong townreads who haven't specifically defended you?

[Bacde]

cooldog are you the third scum

[Bacde]

Its 4 days to deadline, get the big wagons up and discuss.
No more lame ass pressure voting and let scum derail us at this point.

In no particular order, im fine with Feg RC and yolo/evil lynch atm.

Feg/bacde exchange seems town/town. But Feg would probably make a good information lynch will all the opinions about him and seeing how his wagon would go.

you think its a good idea to lynch someone who you think is town?

[Bacde]

D_J isn't happening today

Ztife maybe could happen

fegel I'm happier about

I'd be down for fegel or ztife actually since I don't understand Ztife's explanation

[Bacde]

^^Am I the only one who thinks this guy is scum this game?

I might be willing to wagon qwints depending on if he even checks into this game. If he doesn't get any analysis out, he might just be trying to slip by

[Bacde]

ugh I feel like qwints wagons tend to happen to relieve pressure of scum not wanting to lynch their own and he tends to be mislynched town

[Bacde]

Cheery Dog, do you really want reasons that badly that you're going to put a vote on me?
I didn't add them because I'm lazy quite honestly, but if you want me to, I can.

woah.

hold it.

So at the beginning of the game when I didn't post reasonings about something on p2, that was bad. But now you are going to be the same and wait until you post reasonings about something?

[Bacde]

^^boom

qwints is a mislynch

[Bacde]

unvote, vote: fegelein

bacde: i get the feeling you have a genuine townread on me and that you are not scum trying to buddy me. so i bend the knee in fealty here. take us to victory. don't be too hard on om. pretty sure they are town too.

yeah I do have a genuine townread on you

hopefully you are genuinely town

[Bacde]

Cheery Dog, do you really want reasons that badly that you're going to put a vote on me?
I didn't add them because I'm lazy quite honestly, but if you want me to, I can.

woah.

hold it.

So at the beginning of the game when I didn't post reasonings about something on p2, that was bad. But now you are going to be the same and wait until you post reasonings about something?

Actually, I was asking Cheery if he wanted reasons for my reads. I also have yet to plagiarize someone's read.

err, I'm not accusing you of plagiarizing someone's read?

You are responding to posts I'm not making

[Bacde]

oh I get it, snark

I actually have yet to plagiarize a read too considering that I was the first person to even say that I thought that one post was scummy way back in the day

[Bacde]

ugh does anyone here think that I actually "stole" SAS's case as opposed to referenced it?

[Bacde]

D_J could be scum, but I have a feeling that he isn't

I've played with him as scum before and D_J in that game seemed more aloof and stilted and careful with his words, here he is more personable and less stressed about the game

[Bacde]

yeah I'm not feeling the don push

I AM feeling a fegel push, but it seems like the town is split 50/50 between me and fegel for some reason? If I was more sure about fegel I'd turn this into a 1v1 right now

I'm not exactly sure what or who evilpacman has done wrong, anyone wanna fill me in?

[Bacde]

i think a bump wagon may be the way to go, actually. but again, i haven't been paying superclose attention. i did notice, however, that he is just lurkerhunting. all his scumreads keep replacing out, then he's like "where's cowbells?" but thats just a gut read based on the last 2 pages.

I might be ok with a bump wago

although I'm getting this feeling that the mafia are just staying under our radars

[Bacde]

although I'm getting this feeling that the mafia are just staying under our radars

Seems to me like you're softly showing your lack of commitment to major wagons, almost as if you already know they're going to flip town.

Fancy that?

are the major wagons on town?

[Bacde]

I've been in the same shoes as don before (having to sub in for a scummy Townie), so I can sort of sympathize there.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

In case I'm not able to post, I'm gonna vote for the wagon that I hate the least that has a chance.

vote: feglein

I wish we could have lynched better d1.

same question as don, which lynch would be better?

[Bacde]

how the butt did this happen

who let this bandwagon onto the wrong track?

Vote: Cheery Dog

please don't be a PR or something

please forgive me

[Bacde]

no fuckit

Vote: fegel

screw you guys

[Bacde]

Vote: Cheery dog

whatever

[Bacde]

thank goodness for D_J

good game guys

lol this was my first time being vigged--of course I was town