Mini 1439 -- Game Over

[qwints]

random question, do you vote people for things you are about to do?

Only when I'm scum

[Bacde]

ok so qwints is town stop messing with me dude I'm gonna mislynch you again

[Bacde]

Bacde, what did you get from your reaction test? Do you think Fegelein is scum?

it wasn't really a reaction test it was just me posting my opinions

but no I don't think Fegelein is scum

[MrBump]

I lied, I'm back now for a sec :3

We've had around 20 posts, maybe, all game, which makes it hard to go into serious QUITE yet. Maybe in another 15 posts or something.

Do you think the degree of 'seriousness' is determined by the number of posts?

No, but there's no point in trying to make the game serious with literally zero evidence. That's all fine now :3

ITT people call each other out and say nothing about WHY they think people are scummy. qwints, Fegelein, Bacde, do elaborate

[MrBump]

WOW so many ninjas and I brb again mah bad

[Bacde]

It was more for the point on #32, didn't realise #36 was my post.

It might well get reactions, but it gives you negative coverage in the long run.

how much do you edit your posts when you write?

What is that supposed to achieve?
To answer your question, whenever a new post is made, I edit my post accordingly.

I wanted to know because scum posts take longer to write than town posts

and you took 5 minutes to respond to a post where your response should have been quick and natural (you said that you didn't notice #36)

that is as much as I want to let you window into my thought processes right now

[qwints]

the butter zone.

What's the butter zone?

WOW so many ninjas and I brb again mah bad

ITT people defend others for no good reason.

Is this really what you think or is this an attempt to get out of RVS?

What do you think?

[Fegelein]

It was more for the point on #32, didn't realise #36 was my post.

It might well get reactions, but it gives you negative coverage in the long run.

how much do you edit your posts when you write?

What is that supposed to achieve?
To answer your question, whenever a new post is made, I edit my post accordingly.

I wanted to know because scum posts take longer to write than town posts

and you took 5 minutes to respond to a post where your response should have been quick and natural (you said that you didn't notice #36)

that is as much as I want to let you window into my thought processes right now

I do do other stuff other than go on this forum. Also, even if I'm Town, I always try to formulate my responses correctly so that people don't start to believe that I am scum. The length it takes for people to make posts is kind of a null tell imo.

ITT people call each other out and say nothing about WHY they think people are scummy. qwints, Fegelein, Bacde, do elaborate

In fact, I'm calling people out for doing the same thing, yet you think I'm doing it? Take a bit more care when you are reading the thread.

Also, the butter zone = http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... sane_Tells
You'll find it here.

[Cheery Dog]

tbh I think #32 and #36 are scummy

I agree with this. #36 is the bigger scuminess by forcing comments that would probably have happened maturely. This was already happening in some cases already.

VOTE: fegelein

[RadiantCowbells]

I get the impression that Fegelein is just impatient, but I'll vote him just to keep things going.

Vote: Fegelein

If he gets to l-1, I will retract my vote.

[Ztife]

tbh I think #32 and #36 are scummy

I agree with this. #36 is the bigger scuminess by forcing comments that would probably have happened maturely. This was already happening in some cases already.

VOTE: fegelein

What some cases?

I get the impression that Fegelein is just impatient, but I'll vote him just to keep things going.

Vote: Fegelein

If he gets to l-1, I will retract my vote.

So what's the purpose of your vote then? What are you trying to pressure or get out of this bandwagon? By saying that you will unvote him at l-1 is counter-intuitive to any pressure you are trying to create, and it gives an opportunity for you to say you forget to unvote when a mislynch happens.

Vote:RadiantCowbells

[Cheery Dog]

That there already were people commenting on #32 before that post. (cases referring to the responses after that post that 2 if the 3 of them already talked about the specific post)

Though it appears I should have possibly looked at the timestamps all I know is that happened during my night.

[Fegelein]

tbh I think #32 and #36 are scummy

I agree with this. #36 is the bigger scuminess by forcing comments that would probably have happened maturely. This was already happening in some cases already.

VOTE: fegelein

Actually no, my intention here was to try and get some activity going in the thread, as RVS really wasn't getting us anywhere.

Also, even though Bacde has yet to provide reasoning for his vote yet, I really want to put your thoughts on #36 under some scrutiny here. How is trying to get people to contribute to the thread scummy, other than to mask yourself, which isn't stated in your post. As for your other point, yes it was, and I think my post helped develop those thoughts, as I was asking for people's thoughts on it.

I get the impression that Fegelein is just impatient, but I'll vote him just to keep things going.

Vote: Fegelein

If he gets to l-1, I will retract my vote.

I'm not impatient, I just want to get the game rolling here, I don't want it to stagnate.

Also, if I get to L-1, you will remove your vote? What? If you're trying to pressure me here, you're really not doing it right.

I'm waiting for Bacde to answer as to why he thought #32 and #36 were scummy. That's why my vote is staying on him for the time being.

[qwints]

So what's the purpose of your vote then? What are you trying to pressure or get out of this bandwagon? By saying that you will unvote him at l-1 is counter-intuitive to any pressure you are trying to create, and it gives an opportunity for you to say you forget to unvote when a mislynch happens.

Vote:RadiantCowbells

[Cheery Dog]

Actually no, my intention here was to try and get some activity going in the thread, as RVS really wasn't getting us anywhere.

Also, even though Bacde has yet to provide reasoning for his vote yet, I really want to put your thoughts on #36 under some scrutiny here. How is trying to get people to contribute to the thread scummy, other than to mask yourself, which isn't stated in your post. As for your other point, yes it was, and I think my post helped develop those thoughts, as I was asking for people's thoughts on it.

You asked a question on a post that was already very likely to draw attention to itself. Therefore forcing it to be made less interesting and basically halted any new people questioning the actual post.

And the people already taking about it were already talking it about it. Like before your post. How does sf chapter before your post be influenced by something yet to come?

[Fegelein]

Actually no, my intention here was to try and get some activity going in the thread, as RVS really wasn't getting us anywhere.

Also, even though Bacde has yet to provide reasoning for his vote yet, I really want to put your thoughts on #36 under some scrutiny here. How is trying to get people to contribute to the thread scummy, other than to mask yourself, which isn't stated in your post. As for your other point, yes it was, and I think my post helped develop those thoughts, as I was asking for people's thoughts on it.

You asked a question on a post that was already very likely to draw attention to itself. Therefore forcing it to be made less interesting and basically halted any new people questioning the actual post.

If anything, I'm trying to invoke people's thoughts on the post, which makes it more interesting. Also, there's new people questioning the post now.

And the people already taking about it were already talking it about it. Like before your post. How does sf chapter before your post be influenced by something yet to come?

SF chapter? Also, I'm trying to draw out opinions on the post itself, not just responses.

[Bacde]

^^Oh geez, don't start typing like that or I'm going to start ignoring it

please please please please please please

[Fegelein]

That's how I normally respond to points.

[MrBump]

WOW so many ninjas and I brb again mah bad

ITT people defend others for no good reason.

I meant I had five people post before me and then I had to go straight after (was loading into a game ^^;).

Radiant's #59 is terribad. What does saying "I'm going to vote this guy but I'm definitely not going to lynch him" do to achieve anything? They're hardly gonna go "oh shit i might die TIME TO CLAIM LOL" or something. The vote is absolutely worthless.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't have enough leads to leave RVS.

I'm just putting the vote down to keep things moving.
And see? I did just that. Discussion has been created!

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, Ztife's reaction seems way out of proportion.
I think you should explain why you're so enraged by a simple throwaway vote this early in the game.

Vote: Ztife

[Ztife]

I don't have enough leads to leave RVS.

I'm just putting the vote down to keep things moving.
And see? I did just that. Discussion has been created!

How does it keep things moving? Of course, apart from the fact that I have pointed out the scumminess of it.
Like I have pointed out, its a meaningless pressure vote.

How would it be out of proportion? Explain to me, what should I be doing then if I found you scummy? Continue being in RVS instead of voting and questioning you?
You also seem to imply that I shouldn't be voting seriously just because its early in the game, is that what's making you defensive? For me trying to draw attention to your scum slip?

Also on what grounds are you voting me for?

[Red Dragon]

Vote: Red Dragon

Larry Elmore or Hannibal Lector?

~P

both.

RVS is getting us nowhere at this moment in time, so I'm going to provide a question for us all to answer.

No.

But decent question that I won't answer because of this:

vote: bcade.

For some reason seems to be against contributing. He seems to be like, "No, I won't scum hunt and you can't make me". He has come out and said it, but I get that vibe off of him. Basically unwillingness to play for a town win con.

Fegelein wagon is crap and has built up for no reason.

That's how I normally respond to points.

No one likes it. It is hard to read.

I don't have enough leads to leave RVS.

I'm just putting the vote down to keep things moving.
And see? I did just that. Discussion has been created!

OKAY!

Also, Ztife's reaction seems way out of proportion.
I think you should explain why you're so enraged by a simple throwaway vote this early in the game.

Vote: Ztife

Isn't that strange.

[2birds1stone]

Vote Count 1.2

Alexcellent (0)
Cheery Dog (0)
Norfolk Enchance (1) -- MrBump
RadiantCowbells (2) -- chillkid, Ztife
MrBump (0)
Secret Agent Sloth (1) -- YOLO
qwints (0)
chillkid (2) -- Bacde, qwints
Fegelein (1) -- Cheery Dog
Bacde (2) -- Fegelein, Red Dragon
Ztife (1) -- RadiantCowbells
Red Dragon (1) -- Secret Agent Sloth
YOLO (0)

Not voting -- Alexcellent, Norfolk Enchance

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch

Day One ends in (expired on 2013-04-26 06:24:00)

[qwints]

I don't have enough leads to leave RVS.

I'm just putting the vote down to keep things moving.
And see? I did just that. Discussion has been created!

Excuses

Also, Ztife's reaction seems way out of proportion.
I think you should explain why you're so enraged by a simple throwaway vote this early in the game.

Vote: Ztife

OMGUS vote.

And hey, maybe chillkid's "scum don't have avatar's" thing isn't the nonsense I think it is.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: RadiantCowbells