NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

Majiffy · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:10 am

Signing is fine as long as you can remember. God knows I forget all the time when Thor and I play our hydra.

Majiffy · Post Post #118 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:28 pm

VOTE: Bitmap

Wagons are good.

Majiffy · Post Post #119 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:29 pm

3 fucking p-edits just to post that? The fuck.

Majiffy · Post Post #272 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:17 pm

In post 121, Bitmap wrote:
In post 118, Majiffy wrote:VOTE: Bitmap

Wagons are good.

wtf is dis shit?

Looks like a vote to me.

In post 151, MattP wrote:im about to go get pizza

Don't make me hungry, you cunt.

In post 239, Om of the Nom wrote:I think mollie has like a thing for majiffy or something and maybe she can't be without him for too long or she'll explode.
it would explain why she's in like every game with him.

We have a thing for each other, kthx.

Majiffy · Post Post #274 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:39 pm

Nah. The last 10 pages were just a giant can of spam anyway.

Majiffy · Post Post #275 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:39 pm

Make that 11.

Majiffy · Post Post #277 (isolation #6) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:44 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #280 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:55 pm

In post 279, Boating Police wrote:You're breakin my heart Majiffy

Majiffy · Post Post #284 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:55 pm

Bitmap reacts awfully and I don't understand why anyone who voted him would consider unvoting.

Majiffy · Post Post #338 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:25 pm

Oh I didn't know Zabiano Domingo Rodriguez was in this game.

Majiffy · Post Post #340 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:41 pm

Don't worry, you didn't miss much.

Majiffy · Post Post #342 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:49 pm

I reckon you'll get over it.

Majiffy · Post Post #346 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:52 pm

In post 344, Boating Police wrote:
In post 343, Majiffy wrote:I reckon you'll get over it.

That's xReckon's job

But seriously as a favor to me

What's in it for me??

Majiffy · Post Post #349 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:55 pm

Caring isn't a specialty of mine.

Majiffy · Post Post #351 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:57 pm

Refresh my memory?

Majiffy · Post Post #356 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:05 pm

Now explain how my behavior in this game deviates from my behavior in the previous game?

Majiffy · Post Post #359 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:10 pm

Don't I always?

Also my vote is on scum, what more do you want?

Majiffy · Post Post #361 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:17 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #364 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:29 pm

In post 363, zabriel wrote:There's currently a lot of banter bogging down the game. Om in particular has a lot more chatter than content.

You should consider voting Bitmap.

Majiffy · Post Post #366 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:37 pm

I'm going to hold my tongue about the above post, but I am not pleased.

Majiffy · Post Post #370 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:32 am

Pleeez.

Majiffy · Post Post #374 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:39 am

Or at the very least, the smartest guy in the room.

p-edit: Go home, Rob, you're drunk.

Majiffy · Post Post #376 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:41 am

Go home, Rob, you're stoned.

Majiffy · Post Post #380 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:00 am

In post 378, Herobrine wrote:What, exactly, did you not like about my posts?

~Rob

They're very shallow. You're not thinking deeply enough.

Majiffy · Post Post #383 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:26 am

Attaboy.

Majiffy · Post Post #387 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:50 am

I'm not sure if you just went up on my "stupid" or "scum" meter, but I'm pretty sure it was one of those.

Majiffy · Post Post #389 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:53 am

No, because you don't demonstrate original thought.

Majiffy · Post Post #393 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:01 am

VOTE: Mozamis

We can play this game if you'd like.

Majiffy · Post Post #395 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:26 am

Majiffy · Post Post #397 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:41 am

He's miffed I'm calling him out.

Majiffy · Post Post #399 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:04 am

That's not the reason I gave for calling you stupid or scum, silly.

Majiffy · Post Post #401 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:35 am

Mozamis looks town to you for sheeping a case you don't get based on over-justifications and having contributed little to nothing else to the game state?

Majiffy · Post Post #404 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:30 am

In post 403, borkjerfkin wrote:I actually missed that he was sheeping the penguin case, and that's my bad, but I want to be clear:

Are you calling him out for sheeping or are you calling him out for sheeping that particular case? Because #390 looks like the former.

I'm calling him out for not doing any thinking of his own all game. The sheeping is just one part of that long trend.

Majiffy · Post Post #405 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:31 am

Plus his really bad reactions to being called out.

Majiffy · Post Post #490 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:28 pm

In post 408, borkjerfkin wrote:Really not seeing this -- he came right in with some reads. See #93, #98, #114...pretty much everything but the sheeping. What are your examples?

I disagree -- this is primarily why I had him as town. He doesn't seem flustered or flaily. #392 is overly snarky -- not a scumtell and I think an appropriate reaction to what seems to be an accusation of "sheeping therefore scum" (from his POV). Again, examples?

93 was on reads that were already town-popular and being thrown around. Note that he didn't actually give any reasons.
98 is terribad and was retracted in 104 anyway.
114 isn't anything of note.
177 is a bad reaction.
380 is some fency shit.
Then theres sheep and snark.

Also that "overly snarky" is precisely what I'm talking about. It isn't snarky in the sardonic rebuttal by Thor sense, it's snarky in the "oh you hurt my feelings now I'm going to lash out at you!" whinebaby scum sense.

In post 472, Vifam wrote:Like, anyone on Moz's wagon really isn't making an effort aside from Boner Police and it's retarded

Bitch you blind?

In post 487, Boating Police wrote:(PS i dont like post 483)

Dat... Hydramished?

Majiffy · Post Post #492 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:41 pm

Whatever you say, bruhaha.

Majiffy · Post Post #494 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:47 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #496 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:58 pm

Whatever you say bruhaha.

Majiffy · Post Post #498 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:02 pm

I never said he was.

And I'm obviously voting Mozamis so you can make of that whatever a cognizant being with an IQ of 80 should be able to do.

Majiffy · Post Post #506 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:12 pm

In post 500, pirate mollie wrote:oh god are you scum

Only on Tuesdays.

In post 502, chkflip wrote:Fair enough on the silly question, but why 'Boo' if he isn't a town read? More fodder?

Because you unvoted Mozamis.

Majiffy · Post Post #517 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:32 pm

In post 516, UberNinja wrote:
In post 367, Majiffy wrote:I'm going to hold my tongue about the above post, but I am not pleased.

Nononono no... Speak out, by all means.

Your catch-up post that was over an hour after your last post ITT covered up to post 8. That's just pathetic.

Majiffy · Post Post #520 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:39 pm

Over-react much? I never called you scum, I just said I wasn't pleased.

Majiffy · Post Post #525 (isolation #42) » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:00 pm

In post 524, TheReverend wrote:Not sure what to make of om's reaction to the daycop thing.

Bugged me too.

Majiffy · Post Post #627 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:33 pm

In post 550, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 118, Majiffy wrote:VOTE: Bitmap

Wagons are good.
Majiffy is being as useless as he normally is.

... Dude, from 400 posts ago? Also I wouldn't call that vote useless. It illicited a very scummy reaction.

In post 572, Vifam wrote:It seemed like genuine town frustration, especially the part about looking at Majjify's attitude problem, I see statements like that coming more from town than scum.

Lol no.

As a side note to everyone voting Mollie under the premise of her interactions with Mozamis; Why not just vote Mozamis?

Majiffy · Post Post #652 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:54 pm

In post 631, TheUnderachivers wrote:'cause Mollie prob is scum.

Prob scum but you vote someone else in the same vote. Cute. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

Also, present me a mollie case independent of Mozamis.

In post 635, Herobrine wrote:For me, she's acted more scummy in isolation than Moz. If she were to flip scum, I would be all over Moz though because of the interactions.

For the sake of not having to read mounds of text (which I assume some of the reasons may be in the latter portion of this post), present me the tl;dr of why mollie is scummy iso of Moza.

Majiffy · Post Post #653 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:55 pm

*vote someone else in the same post.

Majiffy · Post Post #663 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:31 pm

In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=4674894#p4674894]post 662[/url], Maestro wrote:
...by the way, here's a gift for those who haven't yet born witness to this gem...

Spoiler:

I love it.

VOTE: Archive
Because why the hell not.

Also not liking Zabiano Domingo Rodriguez' most recent post.

Majiffy · Post Post #667 (isolation #47) » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:40 pm

Because I'm a hater. And dem haters, dey don' hate.

Majiffy · Post Post #690 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:26 pm

Apparently posts happened. I'm far too apathetic to read them right now. So uhhh I'll get to this tomorrow sometime.

Majiffy · Post Post #759 (isolation #49) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:45 am

In post 677, zabriel wrote:Which part Majiffy?

Back now, thinking more clearly. Re-reading.

Which part of what?

Quotes: They help.

In post 685, Aj The Epic wrote:I believe the humans make these when they feel the need to entertain others. I must not have succeeded in imitating them.

Need? Not a want or urge, but need? Why do you feel the need to entertain?

In post 688, Om of the Nom wrote:Why does everyone call them Archive?
It's theunder
ACHIEVERS

Someone said Archive and it stuck in my brain. They're theunderarchivers from now on.

In post 695, TheUnderachivers wrote:
In post 653, Majiffy wrote:Prob scum but you vote someone else in the same vote. Cute. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

'cause I'm town. Stop playing against a town wincon.

Show me.

In post 695, TheUnderachivers wrote:

Also, present me a mollie case independent of Mozamis.

already did ya noob.

Link me.

In post 736, TheUnderachivers wrote:Dunno if Ma Jiffy is scum or stupid. He's calling me scummy for not voting Mollie but he's not worried about Mollie calling multiple people scummy but not voting.

I've also played over 20 games with her by now.

Matt

- Why the Reverend town-read? Om's interpretation of his posts seems fairly accurate.

VOTE: Mhork

In post 759, I Am Innocent wrote:@Majiffy, re your question in 628 "everyone voting Mollie under the premise of her interactions with Mozamis; Why not just vote Mozamis?" I think while both may be scum, if only one is, it would likely be the one who called the other obvconftown. (possibly looking for town cred for staying off a mislynch)

Not mollie's style as scum.

Majiffy · Post Post #764 (isolation #50) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:53 am

Jacob hasn't stuck out to me. Not much of a read on him. And I've only played with him once before and he hasn't flipped yet, to my knowledge.

Not confident Mollie is town. Frankly I haven't been reading her posts much, if she's town she'll make it clear to me eventually.
Her flipping out when she started getting pushed on looks like typical Mollie-town-freakout though.

p-edit: Matt, why is Rev-jokery Rev-town? Is he serious as scum? Is he aware of this distinction in his meta? Seems like a weak thing to town-read off.

Majiffy · Post Post #768 (isolation #51) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:55 am

In post 767, MattP wrote:pedit: Majiffy, it's because the shit he's serious about is towny, and Rev is a well-known troll everywhere on the forum.

You realize that your reason for reading Rev town just completely inverted? It went from "his ISO is jokery" to "his serious posts are town".

The fuck is this.

Majiffy · Post Post #812 (isolation #52) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:15 pm

In post 771, MattP wrote:I did not EVER say that

In post 761, Majiffy wrote:
Matt
- Why the Reverend town-read? Om's interpretation of his posts seems fairly accurate.

In post 764, MattP wrote:Majiffy, once again, a shitton of rev's posts are jokery

In post 766, Majiffy wrote:Matt, why is Rev-jokery Rev-town? Is he serious as scum? Is he aware of this distinction in his meta? Seems like a weak thing to town-read off.

In post 767, MattP wrote:Majiffy, it's because the shit he's serious about is towny, and Rev is a well-known troll everywhere on the forum.

Go home, Matt, you're drunk.

In post 773, MattP wrote:You can take everything I say literally if that hives you a hard-on

... God forbid I take you seriously when I ask you about your read on a player?

In post 789, chkflip wrote:
In post 761, Majiffy wrote:VOTE: Mhork

Boo.

Care to elaborate?

Majiffy · Post Post #825 (isolation #53) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:24 pm

823 was exemplary shitposting, and I'd love to point out why but it's too large to bother quoting and snipping the bits out.

The tl;dr is calling people town for doing things they were specifically asked to do, flip-flopping on reads (e.g. calling me scummy at the start and then prob-town shortly thereafter), and for basically calling half the players in the game scum or vigbait at some point in that awful, terribad post.

Majiffy · Post Post #829 (isolation #54) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:44 pm

In post 829, UberNinja wrote:ftr i want UberNinja to stop posting in case that wasnt clear

Majiffy · Post Post #833 (isolation #55) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:55 pm

Care to share with the class?

Majiffy · Post Post #838 (isolation #56) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:10 pm

Yeah what Vifam said.

Majiffy · Post Post #842 (isolation #57) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:36 pm

In post 841, Herobrine wrote:Vifam and Majiffy of all people ask you for a case and you link them to three entire games expecting them to read.

You must be new here.

It was better when you left him guessing if we were being serious or not.

Majiffy · Post Post #845 (isolation #58) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:43 pm

In post 845, Om of the Nom wrote:The fact you think that anyone could take you two seriously is the funniest part.

What is the town motivation of this part of the post?

Majiffy · Post Post #847 (isolation #59) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:48 pm

I, for one, welcome our new MattP Masonlord.

Majiffy · Post Post #849 (isolation #60) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:49 pm

Like a junkie for the rock.

Majiffy · Post Post #851 (isolation #61) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:50 pm

It just upsets me that UberNinja isn't mad no one is going to read his dumb wallposts.

Probably because we did, and regretted doing so afterwards.

Majiffy · Post Post #854 (isolation #62) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:53 pm

That's not the only reason they suck.

In fact, I'd say that's more an effect of their suckiness, as the suckiness itself is at the core of the problem.

Majiffy · Post Post #857 (isolation #63) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:03 pm

I killed my dog so I would have an excuse to make mean posts on my forum mafia game and call every1 retarded - UberNinja

Majiffy · Post Post #858 (isolation #64) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:04 pm

You heard it here first, folks; UN is a sick fuck.

Majiffy · Post Post #861 (isolation #65) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:06 pm

Wouldn't know, didn't read that closely to the posts when I realized how much they sucked.

Majiffy · Post Post #863 (isolation #66) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:10 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #865 (isolation #67) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:18 pm

The crybabies have hit the thread apparently.

Majiffy · Post Post #868 (isolation #68) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:26 pm

Would have been nice if he'd have at least explained what it was we were supposed to look at in all three of those ISOs.

Majiffy · Post Post #869 (isolation #69) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:27 pm

In post 869, Maestro wrote:
I have received a second PM from a different player wishing to voice dissatisfaction with your posting...this is an official warning.

To be fair, you don't *technically* have a rule against attacking players in the ruleset.

Majiffy · Post Post #874 (isolation #70) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:47 pm

In post 875, Maestro wrote:
In post 871, Majiffy wrote:
In post 869, Maestro wrote:
I have received a second PM from a different player wishing to voice dissatisfaction with your posting...this is an official warning.

To be fair, you don't *technically* have a rule against attacking players in the ruleset.

It is a part of the linked wiki page Boilerplate-suggested Site-wide Game Rules that form the core of my ruleset.
This issue need not be hashed out in-thread, a warning has been given. That's all. I still love everyone in this game and I'm grateful for the activity, etc.

I'm just bustin' yer balls.

Majiffy · Post Post #876 (isolation #71) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:50 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #880 (isolation #72) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:13 pm

Probably IAmI... seeing as that's where his vote is.

Majiffy · Post Post #882 (isolation #73) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:28 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #884 (isolation #74) » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:00 pm

HEY MATT HOW YA DOIN

Majiffy · Post Post #926 (isolation #75) » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:52 am

In post 888, zabriel wrote:@Majiffy - You mentioned not liking the post I made when I got off my shift. I wanted to know what specifically bothered you about it.

About to go to work. Remind me with a link so I can access it easier whenever I get back on.

In post 887, chkflip wrote:Just busting your balls for coming over to the wagon you 'boo'ed at me getting on earlier.

I'm doing it mostly because I'm tired of this day phase and we need a flip.

Rev, you missed me.

Last page Savage bugs me.

Majiffy · Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:03 am

Woah five pages fuck that.

I'll get back to this later.

Majiffy · Post Post #1164 (isolation #77) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:01 pm

Stop posting you cunts.

Majiffy · Post Post #1166 (isolation #78) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:58 pm

In post 938, ActionDan wrote:Boehner

It's funny cuz you replaced Josh Lyman who is a fictional politician and you said Boehner who is a real politician ha-ha funny.

In post 959, TheReverend wrote:How do you people not immediately see arc is a she from India? I have a boner.

We should go pick up Indian chicks together sometime.

In post 966, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 963, MattP wrote:Just read UNs catchup posts they're an accurate interpretation of the game

I disagree

^^ This

In post 979, ArcAngel9 wrote:Majiffy is pretty much null, not sure if that’s how he normally plays so he is neutral

Just sheep Mollie's read of me, unless it's a scum read. Sometimes she gets the wires crossed. But if she says I'm town she's usually accurate.

In post 995, TheReverend wrote:If this guy isn't scum then wft?

VOTE: mozamis

Let's move out to the countryside and have children.

With our Indian wives, obv.

In post 1020, MattP wrote:1) IAI
2) Mozamis
3) underachievers

imokwiththis.jpg

In post 1063, borkjerfkin wrote:
Mollie wrote:Majiffy - I saw something earlier that made me think he was scummy. you would have to know him in order to get it. and it might not even be legit. I have a tendency to get super duper paranoid about him in general but I learned to just ride it out.
if he is town he will find scum if he is scum he will wind up bussing his teammates at some point. win/win either way to leave him in the game longer.

Heh I think I made that point in Micro 99.

Hey, if my teamates weren't always so fucking scummy I wouldn't have to...

In post 1108, TheUnderachivers wrote:This whole "ZOMG NERO HAS MORE THEN ONE SUSPECT" is stupid. ... but the players like Majiffy, Zab whom I have just blows my mind.

I hadn't even said anything about that? The fuck is this.

In post 1165, chkflip wrote:UNVOTE: Underachivers
VOTE: I Am Innocent

The fact that this wagon isn't growing means some of the louder mouths on the other wagon are scum.

? What "other wagon"? You mean the Savage wagon? The one that UA just jumped on as it started growing? The same one IAI is on?

Stop fucking dismantling the strongest wagon and get the fuck back on UA.
VOTE: UnderAchievers

Majiffy · Post Post #1167 (isolation #79) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:02 pm

{theunderachivers, Herobrine, borkjerfkin, mozamis, UberNinja}
Good lynch/vig targets, to varying degrees.

Majiffy · Post Post #1171 (isolation #80) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:08 pm

In post 1168, TheUnderachivers wrote:
In post 1166, Majiffy wrote:I hadn't even said anything about that? The fuck is this

never said you did , cum bucket.

... Uh... yes you did? There's very clearly a quote... presented... that proves that.

The fuck.

Majiffy · Post Post #1172 (isolation #81) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:14 pm

UN you picked up on two of the scummiest things Achiever has said recently and yet you're saying we should ignore that wagon? Are you derp or just an SK?

Majiffy · Post Post #1175 (isolation #82) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:27 pm

In post 1173, UberNinja wrote:SK, duh

Just makin' sure.

Majiffy · Post Post #1177 (isolation #83) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:31 pm

In post 1176, TheUnderachivers wrote:JS is probably town and everyone voting JS is suspect.

Fixed your post!

Majiffy · Post Post #1183 (isolation #84) » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:43 pm

In post 1178, TheUnderachivers wrote:Hey Ma, can you get off me so you can hammer me? Pretty sure you aren't town so lemme kill you.

Why for am I not town?

Majiffy · Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:23 am

In post 1208, Vifam wrote:But how the hell do you get confused reading 20 pages of this game

Probably because English isn't her native language and there's a lot of walls.

Majiffy · Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:24 am

Majiffy · Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:31 am

In post 1215, Vifam wrote:
Majiffy wrote:-.-

In my defense girls on my Facebook talk like her all the time I thought she was just being cute

See that's your problem; you're using Facebook.

In post 1216, ArcAngel9 wrote:That's okay, I ll try my best in explaining... Just ignore the grammer

*Grammar.

And it's fine, for the most part I can follow you.

Majiffy · Post Post #1231 (isolation #88) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:14 pm

In post 1225, TheUnderachivers wrote:The hydra dissonance?

No. That exact line about being confused by your partner's reads and their transition. I've seen it from scum hydras, I've done it as a scum hydra. It's simply not a town hydra post.[/quote]
I've done it as a town hydra. Go look at the second TwoUpstandingGentlemen game in my meta links.

Majiffy · Post Post #1232 (isolation #89) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:14 pm

Harumph.

Majiffy · Post Post #1235 (isolation #90) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:21 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #1244 (isolation #91) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:04 pm

Anyone that thinks UA is scummy and isn't on UA should probably consider switching over since we're almost down to only 11 days bankable.

Majiffy · Post Post #1249 (isolation #92) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:20 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #1256 (isolation #93) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:35 pm

I think both of your premises are inherently flawed. First off, I've seen Nero be wrong a hell of a lot. And secondly... I haven't gotten the feeling of you being obvtown despite the fact that you keep posting and posting and posting... so... GG?

Majiffy · Post Post #1258 (isolation #94) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:38 pm

In post 1257, pirate mollie wrote:his case on me earlier was kind of torn apart so by matt, sooo......why the sticky scum read?

Residual gut feelings, probably.

I've torn apart many a case and had people still be like "well I know there's really no reason but uhhhh scum"

Majiffy · Post Post #1260 (isolation #95) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:40 pm

Sure thing. Take off myself and Vifam, add in yourself, and presto.

Majiffy · Post Post #1262 (isolation #96) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:46 pm

Doesn't really change the end result.

I do like how we have seemed to have gathered a pretty collective understanding of where the scum team lies, with a few outliers such as the mollie wagon. I just don't understand why people aren't ponying up and voting collectively... we need the time.

Majiffy · Post Post #1266 (isolation #97) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:59 pm

In post 1263, TheUnderachivers wrote:No, seriously. Anyone who actually is pushing the idea that we're a scum lynch is either an idiot or scum. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that this isn't my scum play. (Among other factors...name a single scum game of mine where I claimed VT.
Well, other than GvE, CvL where there was a
rolecop
and me claiming anything other than VT woulda ensured my lynch.
Legitimately, go look. Search for threads in mafia games where mastin2 has posted. You won't find any, because they don't exist. I always claim PR as scum, unless mechanics in the game prevent me from doing so.)

Wait so are you using a self-meta defense that not only relies on self-meta but also on WIFOM? Wow.

In post 1263, TheUnderachivers wrote:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Nero was legitimately frustrated town.
Am I being blatantly obvtown, no. I'm not. But I'm obvtown all the same.

... Uh

In post 1263, TheUnderachivers wrote:
And as for Nero...every. single. game. I've seen him in, he has had some of the best reads in the whole game.
No, seriously. Look at every single game Nero's been in that I have posted in as well. Look at his reads. Look at who the scum were. Look at the comparative reads of the rest of the town.
He's always in the top. ALWAYS. Not always the #1 scumhunter, sure. Not consistently having the scum in sight, sure. (He kinda lacks focus early-game; Nero gets stronger the longer he lives.) But ultimately, he's always been right when the town (me among them in all but one game) was wrong. And often tries to mislynch him. (With a fairly high success rate, if memory serves.)

Ok, well he's been pretty wrong in the games I've played with him. Mostly because he tries to peg me as scum and I never am.

Majiffy · Post Post #1267 (isolation #98) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:00 pm

In post 1266, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1263, TheUnderachivers wrote:No, seriously. Anyone who actually is pushing the idea that we're a scum lynch is either an idiot or scum. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that this isn't my scum play. (Among other factors...name a single scum game of mine where I claimed VT.
Well, other than GvE, CvL where there was a
rolecop
and me claiming anything other than VT woulda ensured my lynch.
Legitimately, go look. Search for threads in mafia games where mastin2 has posted. You won't find any, because they don't exist. I always claim PR as scum, unless mechanics in the game prevent me from doing so.)

Wait so are you using a self-meta defense that not only relies on self-meta but also on WIFOM? Wow.

Also, if anyone was looking for a reason to hop on the UA wagon, here you go. ^

Majiffy · Post Post #1284 (isolation #99) » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:38 pm

In post 1269, pirate mollie wrote:majiffy you are often wrong too but seem to have this convenient amnesia and pretend like you never were

What are you talking about?

In post 1274, TheUnderachivers wrote:
Majiffy and Hero's followup posts to maz are right along with my thinking. town points
Okay, so not all three of {Jiffy, Hero, IAI} are scum, but one (if not two) definitely are.

Elaborate.

In post 1275, pirate mollie wrote:what I don't like about ua's posts is that they are coming from a survivalistic POV now majiffy explain to me one more time how that is a null tell

Because townies know they're town, and that's the only knowledge they can be certain of. If there are two wagons and one is on a townie, that townie will kick into survivalism mode to ensure that from their POV the confirmed townie isn't lynched.

In post 1279, MattP wrote:FTR I still want an IAI lynch and if UA flips town it's more proof that IAI is scum and there are some serious scum trying to push a wagon away from IAI

What the fuck is this didn't you have a scum read on UA like last time you breathed?

In post 1282, TheUnderachivers wrote:Majiffy's posting seems pretty weak on a skim. Because this is a super-duper-mega-skim, it's not very definite, but I have a gut feeling if I had time to look it'd look bad.

Funny, I have a gut feeling your reads are utter trash as they all end with "yeah that person could be scum but I don't know but yeah they look kinda scummy i mean idk but they could flip scum I guess".

Your 11th hour desperation is pathetic. If you're town, try investing some actual real effort in, eh?

~Better...?

Majiffy · Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:38 pm

In post 1283, TheUnderachivers wrote:UberNinja--mid-tier scum.
Jacob Savage--mid-tier scum.
Herobrine--personally high-tier scum, but eh, not to Nero. Mid-tier scum overall.
IAI--Mid-low tier scum.
Majiffy--mid-low tier scum.
AJ--low-tier scum.

Oh look, exactly like I said.

Majiffy · Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:39 pm

Mod...have I ever told you how much I admire you? Well I do.

~Awww, thanks Majiff!

Majiffy · Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:47 pm

Or provide utter garbage reads in a last-ditch "oh look how town I am" hail mary.

p-edit: Eh.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:59 am

In post 1284, Majiffy wrote:
~Better...?

ty <3

Side notes;
1) UN is looking better now that I'm not seeing wallsofshit.
But

please, explain Mollie

. Because I'm not seeing Molliescum atm, but then again I tend not to look at Mollie till late-game.
2) What I can only deduce is my hard drive making terrible clicky noises that I reasonably will assume foreshadows the death of my laptop in the very near future, and I don't have the money to be throwing away on a new one with that shitty Windows 8 OS... ugh, my life.
3) Goodbye, cruel world.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:36 am

There are a number of great reasons to lynch UA, but you're his teamate so I won't bother explaining them to you, eh?

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:50 am

In post 1327, borkjerfkin wrote:If this wagon dies I'm going to Uberninja

Me too. But it shouldn't. That would be sad.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:34 am

Spoiler: This is how bad UA is, I have to spoiler a PbPA because there's so much scummy shit.

Spoiler: And break it into fucking parts.

Now vote UA.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:34 am

Maestro, chkflip, PM me with information. I may join your Micros.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:44 am

Unless Mastin got a different role PM from Nero, I think it's very valid to call a slot scum based on one player in that slots' play. And it was the way you said it that was scummy. But cute deflection, again.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:45 am

It's like every post you make is just another reason to lynch you.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:24 am

In post 1353, TheUnderachivers wrote:Do you play this bad on purpose?

Deflect moar?

In post 1357, TheUnderachivers wrote:Majiffy had 1284 and 1291, though. Both pretty terrible.

You can say terrible all you want, but unless you back it up... deflect moar?

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:26 am

In post 1362, TheUnderachivers wrote:Also, Majiffy's case against us is pretty bad. It's hardcore morphing the evidence to fit the read rather than the read to fit the evidence. I could dismantle half of that case by just pointing to simple things from our QT, simple manners of timing, simple reasoning, simple logic pointing to trends.

"I could totally dismantle that case by posting things I know I can't actually post"

Righteo, boss, righteo.

In post 1362, TheUnderachivers wrote:(Btw, 'nother thing I've noticed 'bout my scum meta, as scum I hardcore fight to the death when under pressure. I wall, I spampost, I try every trick in the book to make sure I'm not lynched. Even--no, ESPECIALLY--in hydras. Pine correctly pointed out in
Batman and Friends[/b] DCU Mafia that it's a reflexive action as scum from me. The fact that I'm basically just letting the lynch happen would be all the proof anyone who actually cared would need to know that I'm town.
Butyeah, those on the wagon are idiots or scum, so they really don't give a damn how obvious it is that I'm not. )

OMG SELF META DEFENSE ACTIVATE GOGOGO!

You must be so town.

Also your self-admitted scum meta is looking an awful lot like your play in this game.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:26 am

Oh and I could dismantle your scum read on me by posting my role PM.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:31 am

I'd say you'll be missed but lynch all liars so I won't.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:36 am

Right, spam posting walls. Just like what your giant ATE of eventual null-scum reads was.
Oh yeah, and then you out a bunch of null-town reads.

So...

I mean, good job having everyone as essentially null.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:38 am

Add to that, the fact that you haven't actually backed up a single read this entire game.

Basically, if you're scum, you're a really bad scum player.
And if you're town, you're a

really

bad town player.

I'm seeing some similar conclusions going on.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:49 am

... I went through your whole ISO.

I mean, unless you want to call that 11th-hour bullshit of null-scum read spam posts "backing up" your reads...

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:05 am

In post 1373, ArcAngel9 wrote:And about theUnderachivers lynch wagon, Again I am not too sure.. It seems like everyone is rushing on his lynch. Is there anything or any quick post that indicates his scum behavior? If so , Can someone be dear and give the post #, please?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4686729

Plus all his terribad posts after I made the case on him.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:14 am

I wonder that to myself every time someone who isn't voting him posts.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:26 am

What the fuck are you even.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:29 am

Let me explain the situation to you, Angel.

We have a limited amount of time to this game. Any time we don't spend during d1 will transfer over to d2, d3, d4, etc.
Each day phase does have a minimum time limit, which I believe is 3 days, but that's really way too little time to discuss anything.
We have only 11 days left of time to roll over to our extra days.
This game has over 20 players.

We need to lynch someone and we need to lynch now.

I've given you a case on UA. Now either refute the case or vote them.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:35 am

* Not to mention his second-strongest scum read is backed up by reasoning garnered through "a very light skim" of my ISO, followed by a lot of conjecture.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:42 am

... Next time it's appropriate to wait for a claim before you hammer, yeah?

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:50 am

In post 1393, TheUnderachivers wrote:Blatantly false. We have strong reads. Everyone not among the 8 is varying degrees of town. A pool of 8 suspects. Of which, four are scum, two are leaning town, and two leaning scum.

All of your scum reads given earlier were weakly justified or wishy-washy.
Your list of town reads that you gave very recently all had null involved in them somehow.

Those are not strong reads.

In post 1393, TheUnderachivers wrote:This is justifying being on our wagon.
"Well, it's not MY fault I lynched underachivers! They were a bad player!"

Yeah, your point? You deserved it. If you flip town, I will never play a game with you, Mastin.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:52 am

In post 1396, TheUnderachivers wrote:Nero is VERY fond of implying rather than out-right stating things, and I just plainly suck at out-right stating things and just give the conclusions.

So what you're trying to say is you're both not very good at this game.

In post 1396, TheUnderachivers wrote:But that's not "not backing up reads", that's us both being bad at adequately vocalizing said reads. Doesn't mean they're any less valid.

Explain to me the difference between "not backing up your reads" and "not adequately describing your reads". Because those look very congruent to me.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:54 am

Half-hearted entry into this game? That was like 10 pages ago at the most, we're almost at 60.

Explain how snarking is scum-dependent and not playstyle/attitude-dependent.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:55 am

In post 1403, TheUnderachivers wrote:
morphing the evidence to fit the read
to VERY strong relationship tells with Jacob
to dismissing us as bad-town before we've even flipped
to trying and make people ignore our reads.

1) Conjecture
2) No flips - useless
3) Are you saying you're not town? Because you've claimed you're town after the hammer
4) Your reads are utter shit

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:57 am

I never said it was my town meta. I said it's playstyle. Which is null.

I know your reads are shit because I read your reads. Especially since you're listing me as your second-strongest scum read and I know my alignment.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 am

In post 1409, TheUnderachivers wrote:Also a misrep. We have VERY strong townreads. Everyone outside of those 8, in fact. That itself is a very good start. And it's also pretty impressive I did what I did considering the fact that I HAVEN'T READ MOST OF THE GAME, and entered TWO DAYS AGO (I was not in the game Friday, Saturday, Sunday, or even really Monday).

My apologies. I went back and looked; the second list was actually just a refined version of the previous wishy-washy scum list where you got even wishy-washier. Which means you haven't named or backed up a single town read. Which means you're blowing even more steam than before.

In post 1409, TheUnderachivers wrote:Yes, we have said as much. We deserved the lynch.
That doesn't make it entirely our fault. You can never blame a lynch on the player being lynched. A good 50% of the time, it's because the player in question wasn't more scummy than the other players, they were just less charismatic than the other players.

And trying to brush this off, to pin the blame entirely on us, is extremely scum-motivated. It eliminates any fault you would have. It makes you being on the wagon look justified. It makes being on the mislynch more acceptable, if you can push the idea that it was our fault.

I'm sorry, what? You deserved the lynch, you played poorly and yet... It's... not your fault? It's whose fault then? The players whom were more charismatic than you? Whom played better by some qualia that you're using to judge why you got lynched over others?

I don't even.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:03 am

In post 1412, TheUnderachivers wrote:3 and 4 also show why Majiffy is scum.
Majiffy was saying this before we began posting post-hammer.
And other than Majiffy, didn't Majiffy say most of the reads in the 8 were actually good? (Substituting out a couple names and putting a couple more in [ours among them], if memory serves.) So how, exactly, would our very-similar reads be "shit" and his not?

1) Misrep. I actually said you're either really bad scum

or

really bad town. Thanks.
2) Because the reasons offered for your reads were shit.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:04 am

See above, retard.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:05 am

In post 1416, Majiffy wrote:See above, retard.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:10 am

Inclined to agree with Rev. Really fucking stupid, but way too dumb for even the dumbest of scum.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:21 am

In post 1428, TheUnderachivers wrote:Fault is not black-and-white.

It's not 100% one person's fault. It's not 100% the other side's fault.

But the town players on our lynch are equally at fault, for not realizing what our play meant. (That we are town.)

What, is it also the fault of a person who gets shot for standing in front of a gun? Get the fuck outta here.

And how are we supposed to "realize" that you're town if

you don't show us

?

In post 1429, TheUnderachivers wrote:
In post 1414, Majiffy wrote:1) Misrep. I actually said you're either really bad scum or really bad town. Thanks.
100% of the time this line is used, the person saying it means the latter. The former is there as a formality to make it look less scummy to say, but they always, ALWAYS know already that it's going to be town. They just want to make it look as if they don't.

You might have said "bad scum or bad town", but you already know it's town.

Whenever my role is revealed, I'm going to give you a winky face. You'll know what it means.

In post 1433, TheUnderachivers wrote:And Maj is just a terrible terrible player so could be scum/could be town.

Oh the irony.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:35 am

In post 1439, TheUnderachivers wrote:Majiffy, the wording of this makes it so that you're saying us getting mislynched ISN'T our fault.

No. I'm arguing against your "fault is never 100%" statement. It isn't to be applied as a metaphor for your lynch.

In post 1439, TheUnderachivers wrote:
But yes, if getting shot is a metaphor for nightkilled, it is partially the nk'd person's fault, depending on the circumstances. (Generally, if they had good reads but didn't manage to convey 'em properly before their death.)

The guide's a mess, but my "MD Theory Project" goes into SIGNIFICANT detail about this concept.

Now that I've explained (above) please respond appropriately, because this is really awfully not even related to what I was saying.

In post 1439, TheUnderachivers wrote: We did. Actions speak louder than words. Subtleness is key. If I'm being blatant, then I'm being fake. I might be obviously town, but I'm not blatant with my method of showing it.

Yes, actions speak louder than words. You vote someone while subsequently calling someone else (with a bigger wagon) scum [Mollie]. You neglect the gamestate until two days before deadline in a game with a

bankable deadline

. You provide awful, wishy-washy reads. You don't explain shit.

You're right, actions do speak louder than words. Thanks for not showing whatsoever that you're town. And if you are indeed town, then you should rest easy knowing that you fucking suck.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:35 am

In post 1438, pirate mollie wrote:well if you had bothered to read your game you would know she isn't that dumb!

scum win games by sometimes doing what town does not expect them to do.

1) It isn't necessary for a person to be dumb to do incredibly dumb things
2) The problem with applying a generalized argument to a specific example is that you're not taking into account the nuances. This exact scenario; basically saying "ok who is scummy and why" and then after being told who and why, voting to

no lynch

? and then subsequently hammering less than an hour later? That's not scum out-WIFOMing town, that's legit scatterbraintown that isn't understanding the gamestate.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:41 am

It's always in the case of a deadline. We're playing a bankable deadline game. Waiting all the way to the deadline is literally shooting town in the foot.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:43 am

No relevance to the game? Are we not real-life people? Do we not exist in the same plane of reality? Fuck you.

Just remember that winky face, UA.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:44 am

Oh, and the whole "you suck"ing thing.

Majiffy · Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:51 am

In post 1451, TheUnderachivers wrote:Hydra activation knocked us out until Friday. Permanent V/LA for me knocked me out until Monday. Arguing that as being under my control is lunacy. I wasn't supposed to post before the hydra activated. I wasn't around over the weekend. Saying that was neglect on my part is quite frankly false.

You could have continued to read and keep up with the game, as well as take notes in your hydra QT. You clearly failed to do so.

In post 1451, TheUnderachivers wrote:Our reads are solid, both in who they are and in how little they fluctuate. "*insert you pointing to earlier posts which suggest otherwise*". Yes, they were. WERE. They got stronger and more solidified the further into the game we went.

They might be solid to you, but to those of us on the outside whom aren't in your brain, all we have to go on are your wishy-washy reasons for your wishy-washy reads.

In post 1451, TheUnderachivers wrote:
We did show we were town, with the general aura of our posting. Going on just the literal words, I will never win any argument. Going into the intention, picking up the subtext of conversations, is where my strength lies, and where the townread on us would be coming from.
Words are the literal thing.

No. No you didn't. Because if you had, you wouldn't have been lynched.

In post 1451, TheUnderachivers wrote:And ignoring this, brushing it off as being complete BS, ignores all semblance of reason.
Hence, why those on our wagon are idiots, or scum.

Lolololol must be nice to have an even larger ego than myself.

Majiffy · Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:58 pm

In post 1457, AngryPidgeon wrote:@Majiffy, top 2 picks for scum today?

Probably bork and Hero. Then again I never like Rob's posting so that could be what's rubbing me re: Hero. Bork definitely doesn't seem like himself, though.

In post 1473, Vifam wrote:VOTE: Majiffy

I'm sure there's definitely a glorious case to accompany this, so I'll wait while you type it up.

In post 1475, Vifam wrote:Majiffy's argument towards the end of the day was useless and Mastin was probably right about what he was doing the whole time

Takes two to bicker.
Refresh me, what exactly was Mastin "probably right about"?

In post 1477, Vifam wrote:it just looks like Majiffy was compensating for the mislynch.

And it looks like you're getting the winky face too. UA was scummy as fuck and you know it. Don't give me this BS.

In post 1486, AngryPidgeon wrote:VOTE: mattp

If this is about 1485, I concur.

In post 1490, ArcAngel9 wrote:Majiffy drugged me to vote TheUnderarchives . i agree on this.

VOTE: Majiffy

If you didn't like the drugs, you didn't have to take them. They're expensive these days, and hard to procure.

In post 1494, Vifam wrote:Is she pretending to be a clutsy anime girl what the hell is she up to

She's like this in every game. Also drugs.

In post 1496, ArcAngel9 wrote:Speak of which ... Majiffy's nicely tricked me to vote underarchives, so how many of you think that he could be possible scum or does he have a town read?

Pray tell what "tricks" I played.

In post 1497, chkflip wrote:
lolyou'redumb
bah

Bad chkflip, bad.

Majiffy · Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:52 am

In post 1502, pirate mollie wrote:what bugs me about majiffy is his reluctance to give me a town read and pawning it off that he usually waits/can't read me until later in the game. this is simply not true and I don't understand his hedge. majiffy can usually read me early. also his reads are shit and his push on ua was shit.

you said about arcangel "she is like this in every game. also the drugs." <---- where is this coming from? you don't read the games you gm and you are too lazy to do a thorough background meta check. it kind of reminds me of what you said about daphne when we were all scum going down on d2 in the desk game at tr.

also do you seriously have borky as scum? lol. I hope he tears you the fuck up

VOTE: majiffy

1) We have this argument like once every 3 or 4 games. I don't "usually" read you early. In fact, it's a rarity when I do. Typically I take a while to read you.
2) UA was shit. My reads and my push on UA were not shit. Dealwithit.gif.
3) I've either seen her/played with her in a handful of games now. And no, I don't read the games I GM

thoroughly

, but I do skim.
4) Bork isn't being his typical bork self and that's problematic.
5) Your vote is bad and you should feel bad.

In post 1507, Vifam wrote:
I'm saying that the argument you got in was ridiculous and there really is no reason to get sucked into that if you're town.
I didn't think Mastin would get sucked into it either
and would just post his reads which is why going into twilight I just thought he was scum. It takes two to bicker but that was literally pointless
and I don't think you'd get involved with that as town

I'll just let you ponder on the stupidity of what you're trying to posit here.

In post 1523, UberNinja wrote:I don't like Maiffy's post 1498 very much. It feels like scum who desperately wants to comment on everything possible so that people won't realize he's not commenting on the thing which is the most important; i.e. that Underachivers was town.

1) I respond to everything always, regardless of alignment.
2) I've openly discussed UA being town, so this is completely off.

Majiffy · Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:54 am

Btw Vifam

In post 1498, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1473, Vifam wrote:VOTE: Majiffy

I'm sure there's definitely a glorious case to accompany this, so I'll wait while you type it up.

In post 1475, Vifam wrote:Majiffy's argument towards the end of the day was useless and Mastin was probably right about what he was doing the whole time

Takes two to bicker.
Refresh me, what exactly was Mastin "probably right about"?

Still waiting.

Majiffy · Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:17 pm

I can't believe I watched a full game of football...

Some notes;
Alicia Keys and that chick who did America The Beautiful with the little kids were actually singing live.
Beyonce/Destiny's Child was all lipsynched.

Carry on, my wayward sons.

--------------------------------------------------

In post 1535, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1530, Majiffy wrote:1) We have this argument like once every 3 or 4 games. I don't "usually" read you early. In fact, it's a rarity when I do. Typically I take a while to read you.
2) UA was shit. My reads and my push on UA were not shit. Dealwithit.gif.
3) I've either seen her/played with her in a handful of games now. And no, I don't read the games I GM
thoroughly
, but I do skim.
4) Bork isn't being his typical bork self and that's problematic.
5) Your vote is bad and you should feel bad.

1. I think the last time we had this argument you were scum.
2. ua was not shit I liked what he had to say and I like his reads.
3. yeah but you made an offhand comment like that trying to help daphne when we were all scum together and you have flat stated that most of the time you don't read your games that is why you sat around doing nothing while I was getting accused of cheating in your game.
4. I think borky looks fine.
5. I feel pretty good about my vote when you start playing towards a town win condition I might change it!

1) Doesn't change the validity.
2) Well... I'll hold my tongue, but I'm sure you know what I would say.
3) My interactions with Daphne were entirely to distance her from me since I knew I was getting lynched next. And it worked, mostly. I don't feel the situations are even close enough to merit a comparison.
4) You haven't played enough games with him then.
5) Lynching UA

was

playing to a town win con. UA was awful, and I'm a firm advocate of cutting the chaff in early stages of large games.

Oh and to whomever asked about my scumreads, add Moza in too. I forgot he existed in this game.

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:28 am

What is this about chkflip having been mod-confirmed?

In post 1565, MattP wrote:bork is town let's talk about that

Go on...

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:36 am

VOTE: Moza

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:37 am

AP you should fix your signature;

"To post is to be perceived. One cannot know one's own alignment except through others' reads."

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:42 am

Then maybe you should vote Moza.

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:55 am

In post 1585, AngryPidgeon wrote:@Majiffy? Was that you saying Bork isn't playing to his town meta? Bullet points as to why? No quote thanks. Sorry if I already asked this, I keep thinking I have.

Gut mostly. I've played a handful of games with bork and this just doesn't feel like him at all.

In post 1592, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also, I'd like to know Majiffy/Matt's reasons for suspecting Moz.

I've been giving reasons all game. Check my ISO and ctrl+f Moz.

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:55 am

Woahhhhh

~What?

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:08 pm

Must be all that start-of-the-workweek cocaine.

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:57 pm

In post 1629, mozamis wrote:People need to unvote Vifam. Miniscule chance that he is scum. Gotta be better candidates Jacob, Zab, Penguin, Arc Angel.

What's the case against Penguin? I haven't seen anyone really bring up any suspicions on them.

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm

What do you need to win games for, dude?

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:26 pm

Vifamism

Majiffy · Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:49 pm

La la la didn't read much after UN's shitpost... Get back to this tomorrow but
VOTE: UberNinja

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:28 am

Mollie, opinion on Vifam-UN interactions? Smells like theater.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:37 am

Both.

Vifam's reaction seems like pissed-off-bussed-scum.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:10 am

In post 1680, pirate mollie wrote:majiffy what are your other reads?

Towns;
ArcAngel9
ActionDan
Angry Pidgeon
TheReverend

Scums;
Herobrine
borkjerfkin
mozamis
UberNinja
Vifam

Rest aren't strong enough to say.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:10 am

Missed a bracket.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:41 am

In post 1688, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also UN is like really really town. Really REALLY town

Explain.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:46 pm

In post 1692, AngryPidgeon wrote:Yes, UN is being an ass to a lot of people isn't he? I'll let you all tell me what a fantastic scum play that is.

And, no, it isn't part of his scum meta. Ive played with scum UN.

Lol show me the UN town meta of being an asshole and maybe we can talk about how playstyle is somehow alignment indicative.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:21 pm

In post 1695, UberNinja wrote:Actually this makes sense. Vifam couldn't put Underachivers in the ground by himself so you had to step in at the end of the day and be the straw that broke the camel's back. And now you're chainsawing on me which is totally dumb.

Actually, I'd rather see you lynched then Vifam at any rate. I have had a healthy suspicion for you since the end of D1.

1) So you're voting me for associative tells on an unflipped player. Adorable.
2) I'm not chainsawing shit; chainsawing would require defending someone. And I'm certainly not defending Vifam, if that's whom you're referring to.
3) Give me a case so I can tear it apart on your dipshit ass.

In post 1696, UberNinja wrote:You'd click the link in my sig if you really wanted to know. Specifically, pick a game where it says I was mislynched. You'd find what you were looking for very fucking easily... IF you were actually looking for it.

Burden of proof isn't on me to back up a claim, and I sure as shit am not going to go crawling through game after game for meta I don't even know exists.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:32 pm

In post 1703, AngryPidgeon wrote:Side note: I cant think of anything melodramatic enough to do if we lynch Uber today and he flips town. But seriously, we aren't lynching Uber ever.

Please provide legitimate reasons for your town-tunnel because I'm not seeing any town out of UN whatsoever.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:33 pm

Whilst we wait;

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:13 pm

I'm officially with Bork re: UN, if he isn't gone by the end of the day I'll probably request replacement. I can see this becoming a very unenjoyable game.

Also AP you really need to start explaining the UN town read instead of ignoring it, yeah?

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:15 pm

Right?

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:20 pm

The difference is, Dennis Leary is actually funny.

You're closer to Daniel Tosh, really.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:24 pm

In post 1748, Vifam wrote:Daniel Tosh is pretty funny

I bet you think Dane Cook is funny too.

GTFO.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:25 pm

UN isn't even reading the fucking thread, AP. How the fuck are you reading UN as town?

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:32 pm

In post 1753, AngryPidgeon wrote:Because hes rampaging and getting pissed off and posting w/e the fuck he wants.

UN is a master at not getting lynched when he wants to be. This isn't that.

Gut I guess. I just get people's emotions and UN is not acting.

1) Not really alignment based.
2) Well he's not getting lynched, now is he?
3) You know one doesn't necessarily have to be acting to be scum, right?

In post 1755, Vifam wrote:Daniel Tosh's standup is pretty decent.

Out. Out now. Get out.

I'll settle on Zab as well.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:44 pm

You still haven't fixed the grammatical mistake in your signature AP.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:47 pm

The following players need to post more:
Aj The Epic, TheReverend, ArcAngel9, I Am Innocent, Lord Mhork, Herobrine

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:59 pm

In post 1750, UberNinja wrote:I will settle on Majiffy or Mollie if I have to.

In post 1749, AngryPidgeon wrote:
I want to start settling on a compromise lynch. How about:

Zabriel
P_A
IaI?
Mattp (reaching, I know)

Where do you see either of us in that list?

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:00 pm

Also I want to lynch you twice as hard now that I know you were actually serious about that stupid capitalization/punctuation bit.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:11 pm

You mean the game where Director and I both were on Penguin which led to me thinking Penguin was clear?

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:43 pm

I'll ponder on it.

And IDK re: Penguin, then. I was reading Penguin as town d1, hence the doc, and I basically stopped paying attention to her after that because I figured she was conf. town.
I have a similar problem in regards to Jacob in that the game I was reading him as a firm town read he ended up being CL.

Both of them are playing differently than they did in those games, so I'm willing to give them some time and wait until they can't lurk anymore and have to produce content.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:58 pm

In post 1786, UberNinja wrote:[img]http://i.imgur.com/BGqMctF.jpg[img]

Oh look, we're back to you not being funny.

In post 1793, Lord Mhork wrote:Why is ArcAngel town? And do you think that Uber's behaviour is indicative of scum?

...

This, for instance, reads townie for the same reason most others do. I can't see scum being so stupidly, irrationally, aggressively, obviously scummy like this. Like, at all.

1) Doesn't seem like scum play. The wagon, on the other hand, seems like scum-pushed, apathetic-town filled. Look for those advocating the lynch and not placing a vote there.
2) Yes. Obviously. My vote is on Uber.
3) Too Scummy To Be Scum is absolutely awful reasoning.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:37 am

... Those are completely congruent statements.

Reading comprehension; apparently you have none.

p-edit: Oh hi Bork.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:06 am

In post 1818, UberNinja wrote:
fuck you guys i have an excuse
i cant think straight
whats YORU excuse

Excuse for what?

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:40 am

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:17 pm

Are you even voting UN, Mollie?

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:02 pm

Yeah I looked back and her whole "I want to lynch scum uber plz help me do that", I read that as her calling you scum to some un-named person she quoted since she just uses [quote] instead of [quote=Name].

Carry on.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:10 pm

In post 1847, Vifam wrote:And by that I don't mean YOUR dumb

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:16 pm

In post 1853, UberNinja wrote:ur so dumb Ma Jiffy

now who do you think is scum

full list of players and your opininons plz

Are you too lazy to ISO me?

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:17 pm

Wham bam, that was so hard.

In post 1683, Majiffy wrote:Towns;
ArcAngel9
ActionDan
Angry Pidgeon
TheReverend

Scums;
Herobrine
borkjerfkin
mozamis
UberNinja
Vifam

Rest aren't strong enough to say.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:47 pm

In post 1857, AngryPidgeon wrote:
~"It's leviOOOsa, not levio-SAAA!"

Saaaaaaaaahhhh

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:36 pm

In post 1873, Lord Mhork wrote:1) Apathy for a wagon really isn't a scum tell, at least in my experience. Are you suggesting that I'm scum, then, since I'm advocating her wagon?
2 + 3) I just can't see why scum Uber would be drawing this much attention. It doesn't seem to fit scum mentality. He looks more like aggressive town to me.

1) I didn't say it was. I said it's likely pushed by scum not actually on the wagon, and cluttered with townies who just want something to go through and are apathetic towards the gamestate in general.
2) I suppose you're entitled to your opinion?

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:42 pm

So it appears. Which is weird, because I feel like there's this gigantic spoken support for lynching Arc and frankly I think it's a load of trash.
The fact that no one is following up with their willingness to lynch Arc with a vote is troublesome.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:18 pm

In post 1900, pirate mollie wrote:I am feeling a little bloodthirsty right now

Blood god demands blood?
Blood for the blood god?

inb4RoboHarassment

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:35 pm

In post 1917, TheReverend wrote:
In post 1911, Vifam wrote:Nigga it's late

White boy, you don't know the meaning of the word late. It's 5.27am here, I'm just starting to get tired.

You tell 'em! Night owls for life.

o/

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:05 pm

In post 1925, TheReverend wrote:I've played once with him before, he was town, and he seems a little more laid back here

Probably because we're not at each others' throats like crazed hyenas.

In post 1928, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:nacho said he was sus of mozi.
before that, i had him as town.
that's why i said unsure.

Let me help you out;
Nacho and I have the same read on a player?
You should probably go with it.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:09 pm

My favorite bit was the part where you didn't believe me when I said I was obvtown. Now you'll know better in the future; even when I'm scum, just let me run free till LYLO. I'll lynch all my teammates anyway.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:10 pm

In post 1932, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:you think mozamis is scum??

If you read any of my posts, or saw where my vote was... you'd know this.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:10 pm

Yeah let's see if Nacho is parroting me entirely.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:27 pm

NachoDreams: I mention Moza 27 times in my ISO, out of 197 total posts. That's a good 7.3% of my posts. I mean, c'mon.

Mollie: Problem is, I don't have you as a town read. So why should I sheep your reads?

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:27 pm

AP, you want to explain instead of just quoting a wall post and saying "wow scum lol"?

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:31 pm

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:40 pm

In post 1949, pirate mollie wrote:if you don't have me as town then why did you sheep me onto uber and try to work with me last night? omg, lol

... I wasn't sheeping you onto Uber, I have a scum read on Uber. Which I've had. For a while. Thanks!

In post 1951, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:want to give a summary of why (he is scum)?

ISOs and ctrl+f are your friend.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:43 pm

Here this will get you started.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4670430
Start there. Read till 405.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4671876
Then read that.

If you want more, seek previously given advice.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:45 pm

I didn't call you a scum read earlier.

Haven't we already gone over this? I'm not going to read you until later.