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In post 1396, TheUnderachivers wrote:Nero is VERY fond of implying rather than out-right stating things, and I just plainly suck at out-right stating things and just give the conclusions.
So what you're trying to say is you're both not very good at this game.
In post 1396, TheUnderachivers wrote:But that's not "not backing up reads", that's us both being bad at adequately vocalizing said reads. Doesn't mean they're any less valid.
Explain to me the difference between "not backing up your reads" and "not adequately describing your reads". Because those look very congruent to me.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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Also false. Though that was my initial half-hearted entry into the game, it got stronger and stronger with the more I read.In post 1384, Majiffy wrote:* Not to mention his second-strongest scum read is backed up by reasoning garnered through "a very light skim" of my ISO, followed by a lot of conjecture.
Majiffy's snarking is also pretty scummy, in addition to all of the stuff we have on him. From pushing our mislynch and morphing the evidence to fit the read, to VERY strong relationship tells with Jacob, to dismissing us as bad-town before we've even flipped, to trying and make people ignore our reads.-
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Half-hearted entry into this game? That was like 10 pages ago at the most, we're almost at 60.
Explain how snarking is scum-dependent and not playstyle/attitude-dependent.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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In post 1403, TheUnderachivers wrote:
morphing the evidence to fit the read
to VERY strong relationship tells with Jacob
to dismissing us as bad-town before we've even flipped
to trying and make people ignore our reads.
1) Conjecture
2) No flips - useless
3) Are you saying you're not town? Because you've claimed you're town after the hammer
4) Your reads are utter shitOnly playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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I never said it was my town meta. I said it's playstyle. Which is null.
I know your reads are shit because I read your reads. Especially since you're listing me as your second-strongest scum read and I know my alignment.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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Also a misrep. We have VERY strong townreads. Everyone outside of those 8, in fact. That itself is a very good start. And it's also pretty impressive I did what I did considering the fact that I HAVEN'T READ MOST OF THE GAME, and entered TWO DAYS AGO (I was not in the game Friday, Saturday, Sunday, or even really Monday).In post 1398, Majiffy wrote:In post 1393, TheUnderachivers wrote:Blatantly false. We have strong reads. Everyone not among the 8 is varying degrees of town. A pool of 8 suspects. Of which, four are scum, two are leaning town, and two leaning scum.
All of your scum reads given earlier were weakly justified or wishy-washy.
Your list of town reads that you gave very recently all had null involved in them somehow.
Those are not strong reads.
Yes, we have said as much. We deserved the lynch.
Yeah, your point? You deserved it. If you flip town, I will never play a game with you, Mastin.In post 1393, TheUnderachivers wrote:This is justifying being on our wagon.
"Well, it's not MY fault I lynched underachivers! They were a bad player!"
That doesn't make it entirely our fault. You can never blame a lynch on the player being lynched. A good 50% of the time, it's because the player in question wasn't more scummy than the other players, they were just less charismatic than the other players.
And trying to brush this off, to pin the blame entirely on us, is extremely scum-motivated. It eliminates any fault you would have. It makes you being on the wagon look justified. It makes being on the mislynch more acceptable, if you can push the idea that it was our fault.-
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In post 1407, pirate mollie wrote:wtf is this shit
arcangel I know you are not this stupid you subbed into majiffy's game gracefully and got sus of obvscum adam right away. holy shit I have lost my town read on you.
I was confused and put myself in a wrong place.. anyways, What's done is done. Let's wait for the result.-
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3 and 4 also show why Majiffy is scum.In post 1405, Majiffy wrote:In post 1403, TheUnderachivers wrote:
morphing the evidence to fit the read
to VERY strong relationship tells with Jacob
to dismissing us as bad-town before we've even flipped
to trying and make people ignore our reads.
3) Are you saying you're not town? Because you've claimed you're town after the hammer
4) Your reads are utter shit
Majiffy was saying this before we began posting post-hammer.
And other than Majiffy, didn't Majiffy say most of the reads in the 8 were actually good? (Substituting out a couple names and putting a couple more in [ours among them], if memory serves.) So how, exactly, would our very-similar reads be "shit" and his not?-
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In post 1409, TheUnderachivers wrote:Also a misrep. We have VERY strong townreads. Everyone outside of those 8, in fact. That itself is a very good start. And it's also pretty impressive I did what I did considering the fact that I HAVEN'T READ MOST OF THE GAME, and entered TWO DAYS AGO (I was not in the game Friday, Saturday, Sunday, or even really Monday).
My apologies. I went back and looked; the second list was actually just a refined version of the previous wishy-washy scum list where you got even wishy-washier. Which means you haven't named or backed up a single town read. Which means you're blowing even more steam than before.
In post 1409, TheUnderachivers wrote:Yes, we have said as much. We deserved the lynch.
That doesn't make it entirely our fault. You can never blame a lynch on the player being lynched. A good 50% of the time, it's because the player in question wasn't more scummy than the other players, they were just less charismatic than the other players.
And trying to brush this off, to pin the blame entirely on us, is extremely scum-motivated. It eliminates any fault you would have. It makes you being on the wagon look justified. It makes being on the mislynch more acceptable, if you can push the idea that it was our fault.
I'm sorry, what? You deserved the lynch, you played poorly and yet... It's... not your fault? It's whose fault then? The players whom were more charismatic than you? Whom played better by some qualia that you're using to judge why you got lynched over others?
I don't even.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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In post 1412, TheUnderachivers wrote:3 and 4 also show why Majiffy is scum.
Majiffy was saying this before we began posting post-hammer.
And other than Majiffy, didn't Majiffy say most of the reads in the 8 were actually good? (Substituting out a couple names and putting a couple more in [ours among them], if memory serves.) So how, exactly, would our very-similar reads be "shit" and his not?
1) Misrep. I actually said you're either really bad scumorreally bad town. Thanks.
2) Because the reasons offered for your reads were shit.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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In post 1259, TheUnderachivers wrote:
Add in Herobrine, and you have where I'm focusing. I don't really remember how many players are in the game, but I seem to recall this being somewhere between 20 and 25 (24? would have to check first post) meaning 4-5 scum, outside chance of six.In post 1106, TheUnderachivers wrote:Majiffy
I Am Innocent
Aj the Epic
MattP
JacobSavage
UberNinja
Vifam
And Eight possible names.
So if I could cut that in half, it'd actually be useful.
Here we go.In post 1260, Majiffy wrote:Sure thing. Take off myself and Vifam, add in yourself, and presto.-
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See above, retard.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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In post 1416, Majiffy wrote:See above, retard.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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In post 1411, ArcAngel9 wrote:In post 1407, pirate mollie wrote:wtf is this shit
arcangel I know you are not this stupid you subbed into majiffy's game gracefully and got sus of obvscum adam right away. holy shit I have lost my town read on you.
I was confused and put myself in a wrong place.. anyways, What's done is done. Let's wait for the result.
^ not buying it. I feel somewhat confident that you are at the very least a decent player and you went from a no lynch to a hammer --------> wtfwhew!-
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We have everything we're going to get. You have our suspects, in the eight names.In post 1410, Vifam wrote:Holy shit UA if you're town just don't sit there and fling shit at Majiffy, this your chance to read the thread THOROUGHLY and get some last minute reads in.
You know my interpretation, of who the four scum in there are. JS and Majiffy are both mutual. Aj as well, albeit weaker. Hero's mine, Matt's Nero's, and IAI is a weak scumread of both. UN a slight townread of both, and you, dunno.
All which can be done is to strengthen what we've already established as our reads.-
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In post 1421, TheUnderachivers wrote:
We have everything we're going to get. You have our suspects, in the eight names.In post 1410, Vifam wrote:Holy shit UA if you're town just don't sit there and fling shit at Majiffy, this your chance to read the thread THOROUGHLY and get some last minute reads in.
You know my interpretation, of who the four scum in there are. JS and Majiffy are both mutual. Aj as well, albeit weaker. Hero's mine, Matt's Nero's, and IAI is a weak scumread of both. UN a slight townread of both, and you, dunno.
All which can be done is to strengthen what we've already established as our reads.
I was really hoping for something more indepth if you're town, could you at least tryok-
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Majiffy Go with the Flow
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Inclined to agree with Rev. Really fucking stupid, but way too dumb for even the dumbest of scum.Only playing in games at personal moderator and/or 50%+ playerlist request.
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