NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[TheReverend]

pfft

[Majiffy]

Nero is VERY fond of implying rather than out-right stating things, and I just plainly suck at out-right stating things and just give the conclusions.

So what you're trying to say is you're both not very good at this game.

But that's not "not backing up reads", that's us both being bad at adequately vocalizing said reads. Doesn't mean they're any less valid.

Explain to me the difference between "not backing up your reads" and "not adequately describing your reads". Because those look very congruent to me.

[TheUnderachivers]

ArcAngel > Ma Jiffy

[TheUnderachivers]

* Not to mention his second-strongest scum read is backed up by reasoning garnered through "a very light skim" of my ISO, followed by a lot of conjecture.

Also false. Though that was my initial half-hearted entry into the game, it got stronger and stronger with the more I read.

Majiffy's snarking is also pretty scummy, in addition to all of the stuff we have on him. From pushing our mislynch and morphing the evidence to fit the read, to VERY strong relationship tells with Jacob, to dismissing us as bad-town before we've even flipped, to trying and make people ignore our reads.

[Majiffy]

Half-hearted entry into this game? That was like 10 pages ago at the most, we're almost at 60.

Explain how snarking is scum-dependent and not playstyle/attitude-dependent.

[Majiffy]

morphing the evidence to fit the read
to VERY strong relationship tells with Jacob
to dismissing us as bad-town before we've even flipped
to trying and make people ignore our reads.

1) Conjecture
2) No flips - useless
3) Are you saying you're not town? Because you've claimed you're town after the hammer
4) Your reads are utter shit

[TheUnderachivers]

'cause its meta and you know its scummy. That way you can sit there and say "oh look at me, this is my town meta."

How do you know our reads are shit unless who know who the scum team is?

[pirate mollie]

wtf is this shit

arcangel I know you are not this stupid you subbed into majiffy's game gracefully and got sus of obvscum adam right away. holy shit I have lost my town read on you.

[Majiffy]

I never said it was my town meta. I said it's playstyle. Which is null.

I know your reads are shit because I read your reads. Especially since you're listing me as your second-strongest scum read and I know my alignment.

[TheUnderachivers]

Blatantly false. We have strong reads. Everyone not among the 8 is varying degrees of town. A pool of 8 suspects. Of which, four are scum, two are leaning town, and two leaning scum.

All of your scum reads given earlier were weakly justified or wishy-washy.
Your list of town reads that you gave very recently all had null involved in them somehow.

Those are not strong reads.

Also a misrep. We have VERY strong townreads. Everyone outside of those 8, in fact. That itself is a very good start. And it's also pretty impressive I did what I did considering the fact that I HAVEN'T READ MOST OF THE GAME, and entered TWO DAYS AGO (I was not in the game Friday, Saturday, Sunday, or even really Monday).

This is justifying being on our wagon.
"Well, it's not MY fault I lynched underachivers! They were a bad player!"

Yeah, your point? You deserved it. If you flip town, I will never play a game with you, Mastin.

Yes, we have said as much. We deserved the lynch.
That doesn't make it entirely our fault. You can never blame a lynch on the player being lynched. A good 50% of the time, it's because the player in question wasn't more scummy than the other players, they were just less charismatic than the other players.

And trying to brush this off, to pin the blame entirely on us, is extremely scum-motivated. It eliminates any fault you would have. It makes you being on the wagon look justified. It makes being on the mislynch more acceptable, if you can push the idea that it was our fault.

[Vifam]

The Om slot was already bad and Angel makes it worse

Holy shit UA if you're town just don't sit there and fling shit at Majiffy, this your chance to read the thread THOROUGHLY and get some last minute reads in.

I don't think you're town but if you are get it together

[ArcAngel9]

wtf is this shit

arcangel I know you are not this stupid you subbed into majiffy's game gracefully and got sus of obvscum adam right away. holy shit I have lost my town read on you.

I was confused and put myself in a wrong place.. anyways, What's done is done. Let's wait for the result.

[TheUnderachivers]

morphing the evidence to fit the read
to VERY strong relationship tells with Jacob
to dismissing us as bad-town before we've even flipped
to trying and make people ignore our reads.

3) Are you saying you're not town? Because you've claimed you're town after the hammer
4) Your reads are utter shit

3 and 4 also show why Majiffy is scum.
Majiffy was saying this before we began posting post-hammer.
And other than Majiffy, didn't Majiffy say most of the reads in the 8 were actually good? (Substituting out a couple names and putting a couple more in [ours among them], if memory serves.) So how, exactly, would our very-similar reads be "shit" and his not?

[Majiffy]

Also a misrep. We have VERY strong townreads. Everyone outside of those 8, in fact. That itself is a very good start. And it's also pretty impressive I did what I did considering the fact that I HAVEN'T READ MOST OF THE GAME, and entered TWO DAYS AGO (I was not in the game Friday, Saturday, Sunday, or even really Monday).

My apologies. I went back and looked; the second list was actually just a refined version of the previous wishy-washy scum list where you got even wishy-washier. Which means you haven't named or backed up a single town read. Which means you're blowing even more steam than before.

Yes, we have said as much. We deserved the lynch.
That doesn't make it entirely our fault. You can never blame a lynch on the player being lynched. A good 50% of the time, it's because the player in question wasn't more scummy than the other players, they were just less charismatic than the other players.

And trying to brush this off, to pin the blame entirely on us, is extremely scum-motivated. It eliminates any fault you would have. It makes you being on the wagon look justified. It makes being on the mislynch more acceptable, if you can push the idea that it was our fault.

I'm sorry, what? You deserved the lynch, you played poorly and yet... It's... not your fault? It's whose fault then? The players whom were more charismatic than you? Whom played better by some qualia that you're using to judge why you got lynched over others?

I don't even.

[Majiffy]

3 and 4 also show why Majiffy is scum.
Majiffy was saying this before we began posting post-hammer.
And other than Majiffy, didn't Majiffy say most of the reads in the 8 were actually good? (Substituting out a couple names and putting a couple more in [ours among them], if memory serves.) So how, exactly, would our very-similar reads be "shit" and his not?

1) Misrep. I actually said you're either really bad scum

or

really bad town. Thanks.
2) Because the reasons offered for your reads were shit.

[TheUnderachivers]

Majiffy
I Am Innocent
Aj the Epic
MattP
JacobSavage
UberNinja
Vifam

Add in Herobrine, and you have where I'm focusing. I don't really remember how many players are in the game, but I seem to recall this being somewhere between 20 and 25 (24? would have to check first post) meaning 4-5 scum, outside chance of six.

And Eight possible names.

So if I could cut that in half, it'd actually be useful.

Sure thing. Take off myself and Vifam, add in yourself, and presto.

Here we go.

[Majiffy]

See above, retard.

[TheUnderachivers]

Basically, Majiffy said that IAI, Aj, Matt, Jacob, and UN (plus us) all look bad via this quote. Yet he calls our reads "shit".

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[TheUnderachivers]

I'd also like to add that us and Matt have several of the same reads, not sure why OUR reads are shit but his aren't.

[Majiffy]

See above, retard.

[pirate mollie]

wtf is this shit

arcangel I know you are not this stupid you subbed into majiffy's game gracefully and got sus of obvscum adam right away. holy shit I have lost my town read on you.

I was confused and put myself in a wrong place.. anyways, What's done is done. Let's wait for the result.

^ not buying it. I feel somewhat confident that you are at the very least a decent player and you went from a no lynch to a hammer --------> wtf

[TheUnderachivers]

Holy shit UA if you're town just don't sit there and fling shit at Majiffy, this your chance to read the thread THOROUGHLY and get some last minute reads in.

We have everything we're going to get. You have our suspects, in the eight names.

You know my interpretation, of who the four scum in there are. JS and Majiffy are both mutual. Aj as well, albeit weaker. Hero's mine, Matt's Nero's, and IAI is a weak scumread of both. UN a slight townread of both, and you, dunno.


All which can be done is to strengthen what we've already established as our reads.

[TheReverend]

That was way to brazen to be a scum move. arc is conf town to me.

[Vifam]

Holy shit UA if you're town just don't sit there and fling shit at Majiffy, this your chance to read the thread THOROUGHLY and get some last minute reads in.

We have everything we're going to get. You have our suspects, in the eight names.

You know my interpretation, of who the four scum in there are. JS and Majiffy are both mutual. Aj as well, albeit weaker. Hero's mine, Matt's Nero's, and IAI is a weak scumread of both. UN a slight townread of both, and you, dunno.


All which can be done is to strengthen what we've already established as our reads.

I was really hoping for something more indepth if you're town, could you at least try

[Majiffy]

Inclined to agree with Rev. Really fucking stupid, but way too dumb for even the dumbest of scum.