Newbie 799 - Katana Village (Game Over!)

[GreenDude]

/confirm

[GreenDude]

+ 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
+ 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies.
+ 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.
+ 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies.

Just wondering:

Does that mean in the first set-up (cop + doc), that the cop may not be sane (i.e. paraniod, naive)??

[GreenDude]

[quote=Tenchi]Cops in this game have no Sanity issues. [/quote]

Good to know.

[GreenDude]

Vote: Wickedswami

he said

lets get this party started

he seems over excited. maybe because he's mafia??
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and thanks to hiddencheese for letting me post!!(website's blocked on the school computers )

[GreenDude]

Maybe you think he's over excited because you're Mafia and want to fly under the radar.

Or maybe silverfang, you are mafia because you are trying to get people suspicious about me for yourself to fly under the radar. We can go on and on like this. So let's not go on and on like this.

[GreenDude]

Oh, and i just want to mention, i didn't notice that Belini had voted for Wickedswami.

[GreenDude]

[quote="nureins"}IC-comment:
The sooner we start to know (and interrogate) eachother, the better for the town...please try to come up with some comments about the actions of other players (even if obviously, they are not very significant at this stage of the game).[/quote]

Thats exactly what i was doing.

[GreenDude]

Why do you want to mention that?

so no one thinks that i'm voting wickedswami because belini also voted and that makes us look like mafia buddies. But then again now that i mention it people will start thinking that I was lying saying i didn't notice Belini anyway so what was the point mentioning that? I'm confusing myself

[GreenDude]

A couple of questions about your friendly voter.

Explain why you called me a friendly voter.

a) Do you think greendude was rolefishing in his first post

Don't you mean my second post? And i was just asking a question because the second cop role said sane but the first one didn't have sane infront of it so i was curious... that could mean :

A)I'm mafia and I want to know if cop is naive
B)I'm townie and I want to know if cop is paranoid

[GreenDude]

Thats because i'll type one thing then think of another. At least I DO post. You've barely posted weepingwind.

[GreenDude]

@edmund: Posting a lot is not a mafia type thing, mafia usually doesn't participate in the conversation.


This is wickedswami's first game (I think) so he probably didn't know that no lynch is not the best idea, and it seems he just wanted the best for the town and in his few posts he doesn't seem shocked by the 2 votes. Plus, my vote was rather random to get the conversation moving so I'm going to the next stage, voting less random.

unvote

I'm a bit suspicious about SilverFang, he's barely posted and i'm not suspicious because he voted for me, but i can't know because he hasn't posted much. This should help move the conversation

vote:SilverFang

[GreenDude]

@nureins: who are you most suspicious of right now?

[GreenDude]

I don't really post a lot, i just don't put it all in one post like nureins or edmund.

I think i'll agree with you on voting to lynch the most inactive players, but since this game is moving along pretty slowly (last one i played had a 48hour deadline on day and 24hour deadline on night) I think we still have plenty of time to figure out who's active and who isn't.

If you agree on lynching the most inactive players, then why didn't you vote for labmafia... perhaps because you and him are scum buddies??

[GreenDude]

I think everyone is a bit suspicious about wickedswami. So I suggest this:
we put pressure on him. And IF we lynch him, then we find out whether he's mafia or not. If he is... great! If not, he was directing all our mafia finding energy on him, which wasn't helping us, and we will beable to get a move on finding the mafia. AND, if he was townie and we win, he wins too. Seems like a win win situation for me.

[GreenDude]

@mod:could you prob Labmafia soon? He hasn't posted for 3 days i think.

OH! And

unvote,vote Wickedswami

[GreenDude]

Oh crap!! I'm leaving July 4th so I'm only going to be here for day one

@nureins: no saying posting an AWFUL lot doesn't mean bad, it's a figure of speech. AWFUL means a lot basically.

@nureins: I was pretty bold about saying to lynch wicked but, I find that right now wicked happens to be suspicious I'll post why later. But all my attention is on him. If it weren't i could be looking at other people i find a BIT suspicious, such as SilverFang or even edmund, or even YOU, i find that experienced players can hide very easily behind a talkative personality which seems to be contributing a lot, which is why i asked you who you thought most susicious, and you said you'd postpone a few days. Does that mean that you find nobody suspicious yet because you perhaps know that certain suspicious people are actually mafia and don't want to say so??

[GreenDude]

Here is my total summary of why WickedSwami is suspicious(though many are opion based):

All quotes refer to Wickedswami.

let's get this PARTY started

I wouldn't define this game as a party unless you're the mafia

I'd like to give you a reason why I am so 'overly joyed' to
start playing this game, but really, I just thought I'd type
something along with the /confirm to make the post sound less dull, SO DON'T WORRY

Don't worry about what? You being scum??

THX for unvoting green

Um, this's only one vote, why are you so glad one vote is gone??

I also consider everyone voting for me while these 2 votes are still on me as potential mafia looking for an easy day1 towniekill (unless green and belili give a good reason to keep their vote)

2 votes is not "only 2 votes" when there's only 5 votes required to kill me.
I'm taking into account here that there are some very unactive people here,
who might just skim through the thread, seeing who was voted on before and just hop on the bandwagon.

people don't vote on who voted on whom, so therefore you're assuming that the inactives are townies because a mafia wouldn't vote on you THAT fast.

I think i'll agree with you on voting to lynch the most inactive players.

but you didn't vote! is that because one of the inactives is scum?






Here's my summary of why i think Silverfang suspicious:

Maybe you think he's over excited because you're Mafia and want to fly under the radar.

He refers to Wickedswami
He is attacking back at me for voting for wickedswami

Maybe you're just casting suspicion on me because you're mafia and want to kill off a Townie.

He said that when I voted on him, he clearly is attacking back again for SUGGESTING him to be mafia.

Or it could be a part of a LARGER plot to prove his innocence or get us to BELIEVE he's an innocent.

THat is about the fact of me posting a lot.
A larger plot?? To make us believe i'm innocent?? That was also when I had my vote on him, so he is still trying to cast suspicioun on me!





It may seem I somewhat amplified small details but that was to make them noticeable. They are still small detatails from VERY few posts. ESPECIALLY silverfang who barely posts.

[GreenDude]

Well that was rather plain, could you maybe say who you ARE suspicious of? Unless perhaps you're suspicious of me in which case you're not going to say so because if we lynch someone other then me then I will kill you if I'm the mafia because you said you were suspicious of me, then again on the other hand, if i don't kill you then you might asume I'm not mafia because you weren't killed.

@wickedswami, I'm not as suspicious of you anymore although you didn't find the hole in my thoughts which I placed purposely.

Also, are you suspicious of Silverfang? And perhaps you could contribute more, to help find the mafia, because even if you are scum, there's one other person to find, and if you are suspicious of another person I could either continue on that path or decide he's townie because you're scum, but in that case I can also figure out whether that person scum the other way around. I'm thinking out loud.

But, could you say whom you are suspicious of?? EVEN, if it's me.

[GreenDude]

Oh, yay!! It's lab mafia!!

[GreenDude]

GreenDude wrote:
I think everyone is a bit suspicious about wickedswami. So I suggest this:
we put pressure on him. And IF we lynch him, then we find out whether he's mafia or not. If he is... great! If not, he was directing all our mafia finding energy on him, which wasn't helping us, and we will beable to get a move on finding the mafia. AND, if he was townie and we win, he wins too. Seems like a win win situation for me.


This post seemed to me to be so.. Phoney, and if I was scum, this is exactly the kind of post I would make.

If I had to guess one of the scum at this moment, I would surely pick GreendDude, due to this post.

When I posted that reply I was being rushed and I was more rather saying my thoughts aloud. Now that I read it myself, I does said very scummy. But it was also, more to push Wickedswami to give some answers and for me to anylse him better, but now that he's replied, I'm not very suspicious of him anymore, but then again I could just be saying that. Now, I just want Silverfang to make a reply.

@Labmafia: Could you read through the entire game and tell us what you think?? I've been thinking too much about wickedswami being mafia so I need someone fresh to say his thoughts

[GreenDude]

Oh, and I'm sorry Wickedswami, I forgot.

Unvote, vote:Silverfang

Hmm, I'm changing my votes an awful lot. But let me explain my recent posts: my strategy is to put great pressure on people which makes we look scummy, see their reaction and if their reaction doesn't seem very scummy then I put pressure on the next person. Right now, I've contributed a lot to the town side because I have Wickedswami's entire reaction, next I'm going to see what silverfang says, and so on.

@mevorra: Not talking much is somewhat scummy, I'm not saying that you're scum, but I'd like you to talk more and to voice you opinions more often.

[GreenDude]

I meant me now we

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VOTE COUNT

(2) Lab Mafia - nureins, edmund.angles

(2) GreenDude - SilverFang, Mevorra
(1) wickedswami - Belili
(1) SilverFang - GreenDude
(1) NO LYNCH - wickedswami

Not Voting: Lab Mafia, WeepingWind


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: July 3, 2009 12:01 pm PST

[GreenDude]

No, i'm not nervous, but I'd like to know so I can have a proper defense.

The hole i'm talking about is:

Quote:
2 votes is not "only 2 votes" when there's only 5 votes required to kill me.
I'm taking into account here that there are some very unactive people here,
who might just skim through the thread, seeing who was voted on before and just hop on the bandwagon.

people don't vote on who voted on whom, so therefore you're assuming that the

inactives are townies

because a mafia wouldn't vote on you THAT fast.



Quote:
I think i'll agree with you on voting to lynch the most inactive players.

but you didn't vote! is that because

one of the inactives is scum

?




In one comment I say the inactive are townies and in the other comment I say one could be scum. I said that to see whether Wickedswami would look carefully through my comments. Clearly he didn't. I don't know what that could mean.

[GreenDude]

@Belili: No, I am not eager to kill people and I did not suggest killing the inactive. My words make little sense because I'm speaking outloud for the benefit of others. I was not the first to confirm either. Get your facts right please!

[GreenDude]

@mevorra: As I was reading your theory I couldn't help laughing. It was sooo far from the truth, but yet it could work. But, the only reason I went after wickedswami was to see his reaction and to judge whether he is scum or not, he was adressing back because I was putting suspicioun on him and suggested lynching him!! What if my plan had back fired?? No. Your theory works but you forgot about silverfang.

@silverfang: Could you look back at my post about my suspicions about you and answer them??

Btw, I don't see why I have 3 votes on my since I am contributing greatly, I was the one that got wickedswami's reaction(which in my opinion proves he's not scum) but since you're thinking it's part of our scum strategy I guess I my work was to waste. And then when I flip townie you'll just blame it on me saying that I made myself look scummy. But mark my words, I'll bet that those 2 scums have their votes placed on my right.... now!!

[GreenDude]

I am at loss of words. Suddenly the conversation picks up after I start the conversation and then I close the case. But no, certain people pick up the conversation and with just about no evidence suddenly are voting on me and using their charisma to vote me. Like I said: I started the case on wickedswami so to find out whether he's mafia or not. Right now, I'm convinced he isn't. End of case.

@nureins: Could you PLEASE help me out here??

@mevorra: I was laughing because it was rather ridiculous.

I think everyone is a bit suspicious about wickedswami. So I suggest this:
we put pressure on him. And IF we lynch him, then we find out whether he's mafia or not. If he is... great! If not, he was directing all our mafia finding energy on him, which wasn't helping us, and we will beable to get a move on finding the mafia. AND, if he was townie and we win, he wins too. Seems like a win win situation for me.

I posted that to see whether wickedswami is scum or not. I don't think he is! But if he turns out scum them everyone will assume me scum too.






Btw, something is not right here, I have a feeling that 2 mafia are putting suspiciouns on me together so others follow their lead.

[GreenDude]

Current Votes:

GreenDude: SilverFang, Mevorra, Belili
Silver: GreenDude
Labmafia: Edmund.Angles
No lynch: Wickedswami

Not Voting: WeepingWind, Labmafia, Nureins

[GreenDude]

I've been reading through the thread and there's one little hilarious detail I want to mention. Belili was called belini for a very long time because of my mistake! LOL!!

[GreenDude]

WOW!!! Belili... I DID

NOT

suggest we lynch the most inactive player!!! I've told you this before!

[GreenDude]

This is not going well for me. I've made a lot of mistakes.

[GreenDude]

@mevorra: I didn't mean it wasn't possible, I meant that it was ridiculous because... because... I don't know. I never thought about it. I just thought it not possible, but there is the whole other side of your theory which you didn't mention. And if you would please mention it so the balance of ying and yang is mantained??

[GreenDude]

@nureins: I have been very confused. I myself don't know what I was doing. I was tunnelvisioning on wickedswami for a while unintentionally because no one else was participating a lot. I didn't set a trap really. I just, put that in because I felt it was neat (which is a silly reason). What do you mean think twice? Do you mean I shouldn't type everything that comes to mind?? This game is going very strangly. Probably because of me *turns red*.

I find that Mevorra and Belili are teaming up on me. They jumped on me because of the way I posted things and how I said controversal things. This could be either townie or scum. But notice that they didn't participate much UNTIL suddenly they are jumping on me. They could be scum, in which case other townies you vote on me will look like scum because it seems like they're bandwagoning. And so the first lynch would be townie, the second would be townie, and one kill in between, there would be 6 people left, 4 townie and 2 mafia, and the town is way at a disadvantage because ALL the town must vote on a mafia, 1/3 chance, or else they LOSE.

@mevorra: Are you suspicious of Belili?

@belili: Are you suspicious of mevorra??

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VOTE COUNT

(3) GreenDude - SilverFang, Mevorra, Belili

(1) SilverFang - GreenDude
(1) Belili - edmund.angles
(1) NO LYNCH - wickedswami

Not Voting: pikapizza, WeepingWind, nureins


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: July 3, 2009 12:01 pm PST

[GreenDude]

This is not going well for me. I've made a lot of mistakes.

Mevorra and Belili are apparently suspcious of me (they voted me).


Now if they were townies they would interpret my post as me admitting that I'm scum. Mistakes showing i'm scum. But if they're mafia, they know I'm town, so they will interpret as I made myself LOOK like scum when i'm not.

Either mevorra and belili are scum, or they didn't notice that post.



Even though Silverfang voted for me, I didn't include him because he was inactive.





Another unusual thing, mevorra and belili or using mostly the same evidence in there cases against me, i.e. irrationality

[GreenDude]

Did you unvote because I said you could be scum?? Because mevorra said he unvoted because he was only going on irrationality. But Belili didn't give any reason, did he unvote because mevorra unvoted??

[GreenDude]

It'd be ironic if we had to replace the replacement with the replaced person

[GreenDude]

Hmm, I think I agree with wickedswami. Belili has been hiding behind mevorra a bit. But i haven't read through it recently though. I think I'm going to read through the entire game again with the idea of belili being scum.

@wickedswami: If you're saying that belili is scum and was hiding behind mevorra. Then I assume that mevorra is NOT scum. So then who do you thing is the other scum??

[GreenDude]

I'll do both!:D

lol we posted our other posts at the exact same time

[GreenDude]

and for now,

unvote

I don't want to vote for anyone yet, because I still haven't had time to read through the game.

[GreenDude]

I don't know what to think anymore. A lot of people could be scum.

[GreenDude]

Finally figured out that scumday is your b-day. So happy birthday! Unfortunately I can't send you a present.

I've been reading through belili's reply and we don't actually have much on him except suspiciouns. The hiding behind other people theory could just have been bad luck on his part.

For the moment,

unvote

We need Weepingwind, and silverfang to appear again.

[GreenDude]

@weepingwind: Just listening is very scummy. You are basically saying that you do not want to participate at all because then no one has any proof that you are acting scummy. You MUST participate more or else you are not helping the town but hindering it. You need to voice your opinions.

[GreenDude]

No, you didn't say that. But that is what people will and SHOULD assume.

[GreenDude]

I haven't posted recently because I didn't know what to type. And right now I need to go. I'll post later. I've got lots of things to say...

[GreenDude]

Firstly, this is my first game of mafia, EVER. And I didn't realize how tough it was and how when replacements come by they don't understand what you've typed and so on. I've learned that one post a long long time ago that was typed in a hurry could come back and haunt you millions of years later. No exageration. I didn't understand how the game worked, and since I hadn't been near lynch I thought it was no biggy. I was wrong. And I typed many of my thoughts, and now I'm embarrassed whenever you mention the trap and stuff. It was silly and stupid. I finally understand the game and I what I'm really saying is, "Let bye gones be bye gones. "

@mod:I will not be here from July 3rd/4th on...

[/s]

[GreenDude]

Greendude wrote:
When I posted that reply I was being rushed and I was more rather saying my thoughts aloud. Now that I read it myself, I does said very scummy.
that's not an answer.......
can you please expand on your thought processes at the time?

I didn't understand the game because this was my first game. I didn't understand the game, and how people don't want to be lynched as I had never been close to being lynched. I've said this before.

Greendude wrote:
I posted that to see whether wickedswami is scum or not.
this is too vague. (we do everything in order to see if people are scum or not !!!)

NO, we do not do EVERTHING to see if people are scum or not, we sometimes defend are selves against others, and often times need to repeat ourselves hundreds of times!!

im curious about specifically what conclusions you got from that. you never really say why you are "convinced" wicked is town other than he succeeded (or failed) in some kind of hole-test ??

There was NO hole-test. It was a STUPID idea which proved NOTHING. If I could i would've deleted those posts. My conclusions are that wickedswami is townie. I think so because of reasons hard to explain without writing a page of meaningless glob glob which no one would read anyway. But you can think whatever you want, I'll go on thinking wickedswami is townie until my replacement changes his mind. [/quote]

[GreenDude]

@nureins: I knew you'd say that. :\

[GreenDude]

@nureins: The page of stuff was rather a joke, I don't consider wickedswami scum the same way that Belili does think that Nureins, edmund, or pizza are scum, but HE doesn't need to write an essay on why.

I have an interesting theory in mind, I'll post it later.

[GreenDude]

[quote=”silverfang”] Maybe you think he's over excited because you're Mafia and want to fly under the radar. [/quote]
This is CrapLogic™, you can say anyone is trying to fly under the radar, that was the random voting stage, rather I wasn’t flying under the radar because I gave a specific reason for my vote which started discussion, that is NOT flying under the radar.

[quote=”silverfang”] The fact that he's posting so much may have nothing to do with his role though. He could be just a naturally talkative person. [/quote]

How can posting a lot have ANYTHING to do with a role, again this is CrapLogic™.

[quote=”weepingwind”] Posting a lot does not indicate that one is mafia or townie, but conclusions can be drawn from it. It may only indicate how much free time the poster has, but potentially could point out a role. [/quote]

Again how can posting a lot have anything to do with someone’s role. And what conclusions CAN be drawn from it?? Notice that silverfang and weepingwind had the SAME ideas about how my posting a lot could point out what role I have.

[quote=”weepingwind”] I was trying to generate discussion. I have never played mafia this way before, and don't fully understand it. Please correct me if I am wrong to try to create discussion. Also, I didn't ask for a lynch. [/quote]

Never played mafia before how?? Is it possible that weepingwind is playing as scum and she hasn’t played as scum before?

[quote=”weepingwind”] I have no strong opinions on players as of yet, but I am analyzing. [/quote]

Does weepingwind have no strong opinions because she is scum and needs to find some kind of case against someone?

[quote=”weepingwind”] They are dividing their votes and distancing themselves from each other, and will not both jump on a bandwagon.
This strategy is very much used, and works well. [/quote]

Is weepingwind using that strategy?? Silverfang did have his vote on me, and weepingwind did NOT.

[quote=”weepingwind”]
GreenDude wrote:

Btw, something is not right here, I have a feeling that 2 mafia are putting suspiciouns on me together so others follow their lead.


Who do you propose? [/quote]

Is weepingwind asking me if I am suspicious of silverfang??

[quote=”weepingwind”] Is there any reason for the sudden rush to unvote? Have you decided that GreenDude is townie, or something else? [/quote]

Is that something else possibly my role? Is weepingwind asking if they know my role and she wants to know because she is scum/roleblocker and wants to kill/roleblock a power role??

[quote=”weepingwind”] Yes, all I have is suspicions. I was originally very suspicious of SilverFang, but was unable to confirm my suspicions as he rarely posted. Now I am not so sure. [/quote]

Is it possible that weepingwind wants to separate herself from silverfang, saying that she was suspicious of him so therefore they can’t be scum buddies, Oh! But look, not she says that she is NOT suspicious of him anymore.

[quote=”weepingwind”]
I prefer to listen to what everyone has to say equally[/quote]

That is that same as lying low.


Above all: both weepingwind and silverfang has been very ‘inactive’ and now weepingwind isn’t here, and silverfang has been replaced.



One last thing:

[quote=”belili”]So right now I hold the opinion on NOT neurins, edmund, pizza, or obviously myself as scum.[/quote]

So therefore: Nureins, Edmund, Pizza , Belili, Me, or wickedswami(my thought). Then that leaves 2 people: Weepingwind and Silverfang (who has been replaced by James).

[GreenDude]

OH, dang. The quotes got messed up. :\

[GreenDude]

Well, I suppose that I wickedswami and I do look like scum buds. But, if I'm not scummy then he suddenly doesn't look scummy anymore.

[GreenDude]

lol, I didn't really mean for you to help me out then, I was thinking up an idea, but I discarded it but I should have discarded that post too.

But if nureins insists on me voting on weeping, I will then.

vote:Weepingwind

I'm not going to vote "silverfang"/james because it's unfair for james since he is a replacement.

I guess I should have discarded the bad accusations. But, I'm the type that just throws everything out there. I'll be sure to focus on quality next time.

[GreenDude]

@belili: No, I she said I've never played mafia THIS WAY notice the emphasis on the THIS WAY. I'd like her tell say what she meant by THIS WAY meaning she has played before. And i don't mean to "attack" them. I just thought that with the minimal amount of information that we have, I saw a few interesting aspects.

Oops, i forget to stick in that post of mine, that the last part was ASSUMING that Belili was correct, I'm NOT saying that belili is scum but it is tough to make decisions on whether someone is scum or not. Especially such a large amount of people. But i AGREE with belili, weepingwind and james have not had a chance to say much, and the largest problem is: James is a replacement so we almost have to disregard all our evidence against silverfang.

[GreenDude]

I'm not saying that mevorra is NOT scum. I just pust some info out there, ALOT OF IT WAS WRONG, and I admit that and i do NOT believe that it IS true. I just put it out there. The part about how weeping said it, I agree, that post does NOT show scummyness.

[GreenDude]

Oh, about post 203, I meant about weeping saying about the way she played the game. This has been verified, she played by mail before, and now it's different because she is playing on the internet.


I did not post, post 195 as a defense against mevorra, it was simply another compilement of ideas. And a discussion starter. I don't mean to draw attention away from mevorra nor am I saying that I don't believe mevorra to be or not be scum.

[GreenDude]

I posted, post 195 to show that we could be running around in circles, acusing each other of things when the scum are miles away, sipping their beer in a bar.

[GreenDude]

ok, that is creepy! how can one of us die... mod kill??

@james: No, this is my first game, EVER. And I don't think I'm a good player, at all, I've messed my situation up a bit. And i couldn't agree more that nureins could be scum, I was reading one game, and I thought to my self, my goodness I have a feeling that ic is scum, and i was right, but even if i had the same feeling in this game, it's not that easy to take out a valuable or not player.

@pikapizza: Wow, I just realized it, I don't have anything to say that wickedswami isn't scum, it's just been a feeling, and i could be waayyy wrong. I shouldn't assume that wickedswami is townie because of my gut. This has been my first game and i've been very naïve.

[GreenDude]

OH!! I took that post too literally. I was thinking real life days.

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Mod:

*facepalm*

[GreenDude]

@nureins:No, i don't have the feeling because this time i'm actually playing in this game.

@wickedswami: No, there was no theory and no "hole", and no i'm not saying to leave me alone because i'm a newb but i'm saying that both the "hole", theory, mistakes, and my assumptions were all at the same time, and now i've learned. And the ONLY reason why I have been going on and on about this is because everyone keeps bringing it up and I need to repeat myself over and over. And i never had ANY reasons why i thought you were townie. Are you keeping a closer eye on me because I was wrong when I said you were town and now you don't like how i changed my mind, because you're making it seem like it!

And also, do you mean that I was sure you were NOT or were a townie?


btw, you're post has raised my suspicions against you, even though i posted that i wasn't sure, I actually did think you were townie, but your post has changed that.

[GreenDude]

You cannot role claim on day 1. If you say you're a doc or cop, then you won't get lynched but then the mafia will kill you before you have a chance to use your power.


@pikapizza: It's time to clear this all up.

(1) what were his thought processes during his initial post on wickedswami?

I had a hunch that wickedswami was scum. I was also tunnelvisioning on him so I started a crusade to lynch him thinking it was no big deal if he was townie or not since I was tunnelvisioning on him and if he was gone i would stop tunnelvisioning. But I was wrong to think that it is no big deal.

(2) why did he believe that wickedswami was town?

I thought that from wickedswami's reaction to my crusade i would be able to tell whether he is scum or not. But I was wrong to think that i could tell. I finally realize that and I know now that I have no evidence to show that he is townie.

(3) why did he ask nureins for help?

As i've said before, it was part of an idea that i had. But i realized it wouldn't work. So i deleted the other half of that sentence, but I should have deleted the whole thing. I cannot tell you my idea.

I wasn't trying to avoid the questions. I thought that i had answered them. Obviously i was wrong. I was avoiding only question 3 because of certain details i cannot mention. And if someone figures it out, then I will owe it to you for hounding me down and going after confidential information!! But perhaps that is your plan if you're mafia!!!


I would intentionally place information that was controversial and did not point whether a person was scum or not because I am the type of person who goes through every post of a certain person, put everything down and a comment. Next time, I will concentrate on quality instead of quantity.



@james: You just have to type unvote, there's no need to say who you're unvoting because in this game you have only one vote right? So just say "unvote".

@wickedswami: I didn't counterattack because you were raising suspcions on me. I just found it fishy that you suddenly attack me when i say that i am not 100% certain that you are townie. Also, i didn't change my mind about you in the middle of the day. I simply said that I'm not 100% certain that you're townie. I NEVER said that you were scum. Though you clearly saw it that way... why? And also, you said that i had thousands of reasons why I was sure you weren't townie. I said that i was sure that you were townie. And yet you perceived it that i said that you were scum... why?


@nureins: I thought that by role weeping meant cop or doc or roleblocker. I already mentioned that i was wrong. And i never said that her absense is scummy, i wanted to say that we could be chasing each other around, when the scum are actually not here. I never said that she was role-fishing. I only suggested it. I am not tunnelvisioning, i simply put out a report on everything that could possibly be scummy about weeping.

[GreenDude]

@weepingwind: oh, i think it was wickedswami that said you played by mail. And using a strategy you've explained isn't the worst idea. Later you can say, i wouldn't use that strategy if i was scum because i'd just explained it. But that's just wifom. I don't agree with your lying low tactics. It makes us put more attention on you which wastes our time. James is silverfang, but i don't see how i miss counted, strange, you're right then, mevorra too. I didn't say you were scum buddies.

[GreenDude]

My above post makes little sense, should have put some quotes in, but i'm too lazy.

[GreenDude]

It didn't cause me to waste my time. I just meant it in general

[GreenDude]

@edmund: People expect to everything posted to have an intricate plot behind it. That is not the case with my 'hole'. Which was a piece of hogwash and it proves nothing about me, so there's no point lingering on it.

[GreenDude]

I don't know who i would vote for. I would probably lean towards mevorra. I mafia are doing a real good job. I wonder what happened though. The conversation was moving real fast, and then just stopped. *click* thats it!! There's no more conversation because the conversation started when i was at L-2 and now that i've cleared myself and mevorra has cleared himself, there's nothing to talk about!!

[GreenDude]

@weepingwind: Yes that was a typo.

I don't think that powerrole claiming is going to happen, it's very dumb unless both roles claim, then the mafia will kill the doctor. So nobody will powerrole claim unless they want to be killed.

[GreenDude]

@pikapizza: To be frank, I don't like you. Now that I have the past me, let me explain this in different words. I'm using the newb excuse. I'm saying that I made a mistake. Not because I'm a newb. But because I didn't consider that 2 certain replacements in the future would read through every letter and space that I put down and think of it entirely differently than the nice community of locals living in Katana village.
And I didn't mean verify as in verified but I meant that wickedswami said so and I trusted he was right. He wasn't. And one more thing, I've figured out that it's ok for townies to lie. In fact it can save them from being killed during the night.

@james: To be frank, I like you better than pika. You say the same thing as pika but in a nicer way. And I understand that it's hard to find the scum in this game even with 12 pages. This game is tough.

[GreenDude]

How many votes does mevorra have right now?? I think it's three.

[GreenDude]

Well, nothing's going to happen until someone does this:

vote:Mevorra

[GreenDude]

I put a vote on mevorra because NOTHING was going to happen until somebody did. I don't exactly want mevorra lynched but i want the game to start moving again.

I don't mean to say the I like james better than pika, i'm saying that james says things in a nicer tone of voice.


@pikapizza: I'm saying that I wrote as if 2 replacements weren't going to come by.


I'll explain my vote once more. My vote, was supposed to start discussion. And that is exactly what has happened. Discussion is only good for town.

[GreenDude]

Oh my gosh, i just read through my post. I made the world's most stupidest typo ever!!! I meant to say that I'm NOT using the newbie excuse. I have no idea how that happened.

[GreenDude]

lol, i don't drink yet. I haven't been very active lately, mostly because I need to pack (i'm leaving in less than a week). I voted mevorra because i thought that it would promote discussion. Which it has. Nothing would have happened if i had kept my vote or if i had changed to to anyone except mevorra. I knew that mevorra wouldn't get lynched because no one would jump on a bandwagon as that shows that they are mafia. Since I do not want mevorra lynched and discussion has picked up (and shouldn't die down) i have decide to

unvote

.

[GreenDude]

Actually weepingwind didn't lose an easy lynch. Whoever had placed the final vote would have been suspected. No mafia were going to lynch mevorra and townies weren't suspicious of him enough.

[GreenDude]

Usually you'd be right. But this time, there is no case on mevorra. If we did have a good case then the final voter would NOT be suspected but because we do not, then the final voter WILL be suspected. I hope i didn't confuse you.

[GreenDude]

First off, I didn't say I wasn't suspicious of Mevorra, I said we don't have much of a case. Second, I don't have my vote on him anymore.

@pikapizza: I never said the game was different with 2 replacements.

I'm pretty sure I unvoteed! So once more,

unvote

@nureins: I feel we don't have the strongest case on mevorra because all of it is controversial and has an explanation (true or not true). Your ideas against Pika seem good. And pika's ideas against weeping are good. So, the question is: If pika is scum, then weeping isn't. If nureins is scum, then pika isn't, and weeping is. OR, neither are scum. But I think at this moment i would lynch weepingwind. Though I am going to read through a bit more.

Btw people, I am getting a replacement for Day 2, so therefore, this is the last chance to have GreenDude lynched.

@pika: It's edmund not edward.

[GreenDude]

I am not happy with it, but at the moment I haven't been able to find anyone who has completely incriminated them self

Incriminated themself doesn't mean that they are scum. You are saying that you are not looking for scum, but for someone who appears scummy.

[GreenDude]

Well thats not going to happen any time soon.

[GreenDude]

@edmund: You obviously haven't been reading my posts. I've exlained my votes THREE TIMES.

[GreenDude]

@nureins: I would prefer the deadline not extended because I will not be here from July 3rd on. I also would like a chance to find out who gets killed during the night.

Since the deadline is coming up soon (regardless of whether we get an extension or not), and discussion is slowing. I think that discussion will pick up if we start voting weepingwind because everyone has voiced their opinions on mevorra and he has given his defence. We need to get a move on.

vote: Weepingwind

[GreenDude]

Hey, what happened to wickedswami??

[GreenDude]

Well, at least it'll get other people to start talking. As it did last time

[GreenDude]

Before I put mevorra a L-1, there was absolutely no discussion. So I placed mevorra a L-1 to get people talking. And it worked perfectly. If I hadn't placed that vote then nothing would have happened until a day before the deadline. I think it does cut it because he wasn't going to get lynched.

@nureins: I didn't say that your points against mevorra were invalid. I said we need to consider other people as well. I would like to lynch either weepingwind or mevorra. Weepingwind preferable, but I don't think anyone is going to vote her as well so I'm fine with lynching mevorra.

[GreenDude]

There are 3 people missing. Wickedswami isn't here, mevorra gave up on defending himself, and Belili vanished. What happened to Belili??

[GreenDude]

@weepingwind:Actually a lynch is technically a hanging which does involve a court. However, this is katana village and we don't have a court. We just have jury, executioners, and judges combined into the people of the village. If we don't base our opinions on what you say then what should we base our opinions on???
And pika isn't glad that you don't have any suspiciouns but glad that you know that you're suspiciouns are vague!
You ARE trying to stay in the background. If you actually tried to be part of the action, pika wouldn't be saying that you are trying to stay in the background.
Big posts are NOT small talk extended but an entire read-up about a person. And yet again pika is right. Your big post that you just posted is a defence.
If you read through pika's post he'll show what he means by lied.
You just said that you are EXAMINING Belili and James, not SUSPICIOUS of them but EXAMINING. Why are you using those words??

Look, already some of you have stated I am your favorite for a lynch, isn't that an alternative? And as I am town, I will win if the rest of the town wins. Though either way we lose a townie. Actually, I would like to know for sure what Mevorra's alignment is, and the only way is through death, though it would be a waste of a lynch and a townie.

That's not answering the question. The question is why aren't you defending mevorra instead of doing nothing??

Isn't a lynch an execution without due process of law? Shouldn't I present my case in front of the town (in lieu of a judge or jury) in an unbiased manner and let you decide?

Again, that's not answering the question. The question is: Your defense was weak because you used WIFOM.



I think Pikapizza is an invaluable player is helping us out a lot. I think he has contributed the most and that is pro-town.

[GreenDude]

@mevorra: If I recall correctly you didn't say much.

@Belili: I'd have to disagree. We have suspiciouns on mevorra and weepingwind. I don't see that as running around in circles.


Happy Canada Day!!

[GreenDude]

@mevorra: Then why isn't your vote on weepingwind????

[GreenDude]

I'm not going to be here for the last 3 days. But my vote is cast on the person I want lynched. Hopefully you guys will come to a decision and perhaps lynch weepingwind.

[GreenDude]

@weepingwind: You ARE trying to stay in the background. I don't need pikapizza to tell me that. He was saying it to be informative but as a scum signal.

It isn't good to know that your suspicions or vague, but it's good that YOU KNOW that your suspicions are vague.

You were asked who you were suspicious of but you didn't say that you were suspicious of Belili and James, you said you were examining them. That is not directly answering the question which is avoiding the question which is very scummy. You are also avoiding lying by saying you are examining them not suspicious of them. So I conclude that you are not suspicious of anyone and are therefore scum!

You haven't needed to make long posts because that is showing your suspicions and you don't do that. You hide the back and actively lurk. That is lying low. Only scum do that. So I conclude that you are scum!

You have misinterpreted the question again, or are indirectly answering it. The point is that people were saying that mevorra shouldn't be lynched and were doing nothing. Which is the same as trying to lynch him. And those people instead of doing nothing which leads to a lynch should do something like defend him!

Instead of having a weak defense you should have had a stronger defense and now are doing another weak defense of a weak defense! You are using crap logic in your defenses which is another scum signal!!

I am saying that pikapizza is an invaluable player because he deserves a mention. I never said you attacked him. Why are you assuming that? That seems very scummy that you are assuming that I said that pikapizza is a pro-town meaning that you are attacking him. I haven't defended pikapizza at all! And I'm agreeing with him because I think he's onto something.

Pikapizza is the one that first starting placing suspicion on you.

And yet again pikapizza was right, all your long posts are defending yourself.


What I find most suspicious about weepingwind is:

She avoids questions by indirectly answering them.

She assumes many things.

[GreenDude]

I don't avoid all questions thrown my way. And I don't assume that everyone is attacking me. And it isn't a question of feeling to need to post a lot but whether you are hiding or not. You are hiding... why??

What are your suspiciouns? No wait, let me guess, me!!

[GreenDude]

No. I don't get emotional. After all, it's just a game! But once I start then I can't stop. I just had to give her a piece of my mind.

But really, weepingwind IS avoiding questions.

What are your suspicions?
I am examining...




Keep going back and you'll see what I mean.

And weepingwind assumes many things:

Yes, my defense is weak, and you have taken advantage of that and are trying to get me lynched.

I am not trying to get weepingwind lynched because of her poor defense that she made a while back. I never said anything like that. She is assuming that I'm taking advantage of the poor defense which I am not.

Why are you saying this? I didn't attack him, in fact, you are constantly agreeing with him and defending him. Why?

I never said that you did attack him. Weepingwind is assuming that I think that she attacked pikapizza.

[GreenDude]

Oh, I just remember!

The other time weepingwind said that no one has "incriminated themselves". Incrimination and proving to be scum are too different things. Proven to be scum means that they are scum. Incriminated means that they only LOOK like scum. And weepingwind said that she wasn't voting yet because no one had "incrimanted themselves" enough.

@weepingwind: If you are a power-role (not saying that you are). And if you are later going to blame me for getting you lynched... now is your time to explain yourself (not saying to role-claim).



Btw, this is my last post. I'm leaving in 3 hours and I need to get ready!

[GreenDude]

I can't believe you guys!! I knew pikapizza was scum the 2nd day. Didn't you put 2 and 2 together??? Pikapizza was forcing out of me about my little plan and then wickedswami suggests I'm hiding something. And then wham! turns out I was the doctor. Sheesh!!!! And a second thing. I said pikapizza was very valuable which was trying to get the mafia to kill him whom I would try to protect. I'm proud of tubby though of figuring it out. Wow!! So easy yet so hard. I knew I was going to die. Pikapizza did a good job. On the quick topic it'll be there

[GreenDude]

It was a pretty fun game for me. As I said earlier, townies can lie to hide their power role. I should've made something up about what I was saying just for the mafia to be happy, but I knew everything that was going to happen after I left. I should've left everyone with my thoughts! That would have gotten pikapizza right away ha!! I could've told everyone that the scum found out who I was and that they were going to kill me and that pikapizza was scum. I knew edmund.angles was gonna get killed when he did so if I had been alive I could have saved him. I knew because truant claimed him guilty therefore if truant isn't cop then edmund is innocent so the other townie can go he's innocent I'm innocent therefore I know who's the scum! I should try a strategy like this is another game if I'm not playing you .

2 scum. 1 scum is gonna be sacrificed. Claims cop and says other scum is guilty. But townies won't believe him because he's hammered someone for example. And so on the last day with 3 people. The scum left can say. Scum said I was claimed cop and he wouldn't claim on a scum so therefore I am innocent. And the other townie believes him and votes on player, and the scum can hammer the other guy!!

[GreenDude]

The funny thing is that since pikapizza came I didn't like him. I had a feeling he was scum too. The way he took control and pointed fingers at everyone and kept asking things made me dislike him unlike nureins whom I knew was the IC and was very smart but I knew he could also be scum but had a nicer tone of text lol. So I knew he was going to get killed.

I know truant wouldn't have done the things he did if I hadn't been killed if I hadn't slipped my PR, but I would have still known pikapizza to be scum. AND I had unflawed logic if I roleclaimed. So I could have sacrificed myself to lynch pikapizza. But I had no idea truant was scum. Then when he quick hammered I figured out he was being sacrificed because pikapizza was scum and ppl thought him pro-town. And in the end it paid off. Belili sub-consciously didn't want to vote pikapizza.

Oh well, next time I'll do better.