Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]
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I'm at the bottom of page 10 and my level of indifference to what's going on is pretty similar to what I posted on that same page.
The vote count on page nine makes no sense with my current reads, so I'll have to apply context to what I'm seeing before they're really 'complete', but the way my reads are, zakk is below like 5 other people on the scum list.-
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That said, what exactly was the point of this and what does it even mean?In post 335, SlySly wrote:4. House parroted SirCakes when SirCakes was being scummy, but SirCakes later clarified his position.-
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I look at the slysly wagon and see him as town because my two strongest scumreads up to that point are on the wagon, but the zakk townread is because I see all my townreads mixed with medium-strength scumreads.In post 562, House wrote:Pointing at two wagons and saying both are probably town is empty words.
Sly is probably town because of the people on his wagon, but zakk is full of townreads for me or I wouldn't be there.
Just a quick look at the current zakk wagon makes me even more sure that zakk is town, actually.-
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Everyone in my scumlist are people I have significant scumreads on. The people in the null list are basically people I have scumreads on, but are insignificant enough that I'd probably be going for information over an actual lynch if I ever voted them.
Everyone in my townlist has either done :goodposting: in a lot of their posts, are town by association, or looked like town when engaging with one of my scumreads.-
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I'll take any excuse to tell this story againIn post 577, zakk wrote:
This was to Ankamius, about this avatar:In post 574, zakk wrote:Btw what's in your avatar? that's pretty cool.
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In post 585, SlySly wrote:
What makes you read Blade as scum?In post 573, Ankamius wrote:Everyone in my scumlist are people I have significant scumreads on.Spoiler:
Those two posts are specific ones I don't like, but otherwise it's more a general read from all of her posts.-
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His posts are town.In post 602, Blade Dancer wrote:Ank, townread on McMenno, dude nearly scumclaimed post 1. That needs explanation man. Like totally.-
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OrIn post 608, Blade Dancer wrote:VOTE: Ank
Really? Terrible how? For catching McMenno using a routine bullshit line scum use or McMenno is just your buddy.
You cannot justify McMenno being town and you realized that the moment it came from your lips, so you can to resort to attacking me.
I misremembered where the read came from, glanced at the notes I took and saw I had no specific post attributed to the read, and skimmed his ISO to refigure out why I was townreading him in the first place.
And your engagement on him was terrible because you were making up bullshit about his responses to you.-
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What, this post?In post 610, Accountant wrote:Why is Ankamius refusing to engage with me?
If you really care enough about why I'm reading things a certain way, then ask. Don't expect me to spoonfeed you everything I'm thinking at all times.In post 599, Accountant wrote:
So, likeIn post 597, Ankamius wrote:I'm sorry for being one of the only people to see how scummy you really are, I guess.
are you gonna give reasons
or do the sircakez "let me go ahead and say X is scummy w/out explaining why", except at least cakez explained after I asked him-
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Scumhunting =/= townIn post 625, Blade Dancer wrote:
I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.In post 622, Ankamius wrote:And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.
McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.
Lack of scumhunting =/= scum-
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I frankly don't care what you think. This is how I play the game and if you want more information from me, you can ask for my opinions on specific things.In post 628, Blade Dancer wrote:
Adorable, meta defense now. Really, you're going there?In post 626, Ankamius wrote:It's very obvious that Blade Dancer has never played with me before.
Another distraction rather than providing defensible reads. I am not nitpicking. No one can townread McMenno based on his play. Null maybe if you squint. Town, no.-
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It's only a meta defense in the way that everything you've attacked me for are things I do regardless of alignment.In post 628, Blade Dancer wrote:
Adorable, meta defense now. Really, you're going there?In post 626, Ankamius wrote:It's very obvious that Blade Dancer has never played with me before.
Another distraction rather than providing defensible reads. I am not nitpicking. No one can townread McMenno based on his play. Null maybe if you squint. Town, no.-
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Here's a hint: not everybody plays like you do.In post 633, Blade Dancer wrote:
Oh you want to play semanticsIn post 629, Ankamius wrote:
Scumhunting =/= townIn post 625, Blade Dancer wrote:
I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.In post 622, Ankamius wrote:And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.
McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.
Lack of scumhunting =/= scum
McMenno has not town hunted either
He's just been a scared little bitch voting and running
What about his posting is town-
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Either you're having a lot of trouble understanding what I tell you or you're doing the same level of bullshitting that you did to Menno, because none of your responses in this chain have anything to do with what I've responded to you with.In post 641, Blade Dancer wrote:
Here's a hint: I don't care if you play like me. I expect you to defend what you say or not say it at all.In post 635, Ankamius wrote:
Here's a hint: not everybody plays like you do.In post 633, Blade Dancer wrote:
Oh you want to play semanticsIn post 629, Ankamius wrote:
Scumhunting =/= townIn post 625, Blade Dancer wrote:
I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.In post 622, Ankamius wrote:And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.
McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.
Lack of scumhunting =/= scum
McMenno has not town hunted either
He's just been a scared little bitch voting and running
What about his posting is town-
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I immediately stated that wasn't the case and that the reasoning is entirely different. Why exactly are you pushing for me to expand on what I already stated was false? I don't even understand what the last sentence even means since I redacted that statement before you made a single post on it.In post 649, Blade Dancer wrote:
What's so difficult about me asking you to justify you saying "his posting" is town?In post 648, Ankamius wrote:What's so difficult to understand that the townread is based on how people have interacted with him over his posting itself?
You then walked that back immediately.
Second, my accuracy makes it more likely he is scum, not less. Merely, saying I am bad without substance doesn't justify a townread there. It's a classic deflection. Don't focus on my terrible unjustified townread on McMenno because Blade Dancer pushed it.
You need a take a few steps back and rethink this entire situation, because regardless of your actual alignment, you're death tunneling. McMenno is town because none of the things either you or Chara said in the engagements you had with him made any sense or looked like anything but settng up a potential lynch on him in case zakk suddenly became less of a viable option to lynch (which isvery possible with how many slots weren't very active at the time).
I'm less convinced now that you're showing the exact same markers now after it has been pointed out, but it's still difficult to tell whether you're town who is prone to getting overexcited and tunneling or scum who is trying to manipulate the town.
It would make a lot more sense for the latter if Accountant is also scum, though. It's very interesting that the only slots that immediately attacked my reads are the same slots that I have an unpopular scumread on.-
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What are your reads?In post 719, PeregrineV wrote:That was less exciting than I thought it would be.
Vote: SirCakez
Some of your early posts have really come of as manufactured.
@zakk- The sum of your 166 was......nothing? I am surprised that nothing super great has appeared.
@NotChara-Were you the self-proclaimed Understales expert? I'd like an opinion on 465.-
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The entirety of my initial scumread was how you handled the zakk wagon.In post 697, Accountant wrote:
Yes they can. Two or three people have already given reads that are so bad I can't scumread them for it because it's clearly a result of muddled thinking rather than alignment. I'm pretty sure a lot of the people here are outright bad at mafiaIn post 691, zakk wrote:In post 659, Ankamius wrote:Accountant's attack is significantly worse, though. I'd be voting that slot now if it wasn't a waste of time.
Ur approaching dangerous levels of scummy for me tooIn post 670, Accountant wrote:I'm not comfortable with the 3 unexplained scumreads on me. Feels like the counter wagon zakk was talking about.
@Ankamius
@House
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Soz bro
They may be unexplained but they can't all be wrong can they?
Now, I want you to explain why my reads list was so bad and why you decided to try to discredit it immediately instead of trying to figure out why I had those reads.-
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Usually when I do catchups, I record my thoughts down and try to piece them together before making any decisions on where my vote goes. It was different in this case because the post I specified with the vote pinged me much harder than any other vote up to that point.
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I guarantee that I can read PeregrineV better than you can.In post 753, House wrote:
Why'd you have to roll scum bro?In post 735, Ankamius wrote:PeregrineV looks town right now, but I'll be more sure either way later on.-
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Blade Dancer's just grasping at straws with this. The idea that McMenno specifically answered that question to 'protect' me is significantly less likely than answering a question about a role with two modifiers that don't make any sense paired with each other. The idea that there are possibilities within the setup to change things is a realistic possibility since the game has a lot of branching paths within it.In post 750, Not Chara wrote:
i didn't realize they were talking about Ankimaus's roleclaim specifically.In post 749, Blade Dancer wrote:@Not Chara,
I don't think I can.
McMenno is arguing that ascetic miller makes sensebecause of event like things. Even if there are no "events", it implies an unhealthy desire to protect Ankimaus.
i don't know it implies that. it isn't as if Ankimaus was being attacked for his claim in the least.
again, ignore that. pretty sure i know what McMenno was referring to.-
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Considering that it should've been pretty obvious that my read on him was an initial read and that I'd be looking to cement it later, I don't understand what your point is.In post 758, House wrote:
Nobody is reading him accurately by this point.In post 755, Ankamius wrote:
I guarantee that I can read PeregrineV better than you can.In post 753, House wrote:
Why'd you have to roll scum bro?In post 735, Ankamius wrote:PeregrineV looks town right now, but I'll be more sure either way later on.
That you say you can is kinda my point.-
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Can you go into more detail on the second line specifically?In post 1167, zakk wrote:Mcmenno feels town
I could see Ankamius and Blade Dancer as scum
Also since BD apparently is known to a lot of people by some other name, feel free to spill the beans so we can all be on the same page-
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No, because he's been towning more and more with basically every post he's made today.In post 1891, SlySly wrote:For those paying attention to my earlier PerV meta discussion, do you find his complete silence on it of interest?-
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We have a bastard game and at least one role (mine) known to be really bizarre. How is that a stretch, exactly?In post 1928, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also: how does Peregrine know it's an ability? House is onto something.-
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