Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Maxous]

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

prolly town but w/e

should of hammered the obv-scum menno instead of sinking us into another 20 pages of apathy

[zakk]

Ty max

And for the rest of you nonbelievers I'll actually make a magna case soon

[Nosferatu]

how the fuck is this even so close to lynch?

An aberration of human sociology

[Leonshade]

I went looking through the VCs to see if there had been a wagon on Magna before, and I found this gem:

i mean

let's just all vote Magna whether you think the other people are town or not

how bout that shit

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

VOTE: Magna

VOTE: Magna

What's going on? Are you people just sheeping zakk because you don't have any scumreads?

DOES ANYONE VOTING FOR MAGNA OTHER THAN ZAKK ACTUALLY SCUMREAD MAGNA?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes I scumread Magna his pushes,

especially

on Narna, have felt scummy.

[Leonshade]

And I will grant that I at least saw Gamma hint at SRing Magna before that vote, but Creature provided no reasons and seemingly had him listed as non-scum in a previous reads post.

[Leonshade]

@Gamma: Do you TR Narna? If so, why?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes I TR Narna, because she doesn't feel super-opportunistic, like her predecessor. Even then, I had trouble seeing Pepto as scummy so it wasn't very hard to become a townread.

[Narna]

What's going on? Are you people just sheeping zakk because you don't have any scumreads?

DOES ANYONE VOTING FOR MAGNA OTHER THAN ZAKK ACTUALLY SCUMREAD MAGNA?

Yes

I would go Titus if it happened fyi
I can't remember anything Magna has posted (i tend to skim his posts because walls)

tl'dr case pls

I don't know about the others, but I don't like that he called out Nahdia for assuming scum had daychat and not Creature. His excuse was that any talk after the first mention of this being a scumslip was pertaining to the conversation about assumed daychat, so it isn't a slip. However Creature was not talking about that conversation at all and even throws in a nevermind afterwords once Creature realized what he did. This is about scumreading Magna, not Creature though. He's also twisting my words to pretend that he's scumhunting.

[Not Chara]

if you read me and don't know why i'm scumreading Magna, there is no hope for you.

Creature turned around on Magna like that because Creature is scum.
i do agree that McMenno should have been hammered. i'm annoyed at those who are town who unvoted because of that claim.
busy. address me directly if you want a comment, i'll still be checking the thread.

[Leonshade]

Yes I TR Narna, because she doesn't feel super-opportunistic, like her predecessor. Even then, I had trouble seeing Pepto as scummy so it wasn't very hard to become a townread.

Not that I feel "hasn't been super-scummy" is a good reason to TR someone anyway, but now that I've read his ISO, I disagree on Narna's opportunism. Look at Narna move from his top SR to Nahdia in 2067 when there's a wagon on her (not scummy in and of itself), then never interact with her (this is where it starts getting scummy) before moving on. I've already said that I felt the wagon on me was opportunistic. Narna's jump was especially opportunistic, as there's no sign of him SRing me before then (he had me as null with "I like his reads" before) and he's jumping from the wagon on McMenno, who's been his top SR up to that point, to me,

after I also joined the McMenno wagon

. The wagon on his top SR was growing and he jumped off to vote for the lurker.

And then we come to Magna.

I'd rather go after

PV or

Magna again

, but I'd be ok with lynching Leon.

Narna says he'll go after Magna again, implying that there's been a previous time he went after Magna.

When?

Narna had not once voted, or even pushed on, Magna up to that point. He disagrees with the wagon on him in 1662, townreads him in 2217, has a minor interaction with him that doesn't read at all like a push (even though it's later the supposed basis of one), then posts the above. Don't take my word for it, look at this:

What you are saying would imply that not listening to Nahdia's hour long reads list (before the mod called foul) is also scummy. Why didn't you call out people for that?

Very scummy to suggest that a post the Mod very explicitly said was illegal has the same weight as legal game posts …

It's part of the game, and people were claiming not to have followed it. I was pushing Sly for a reaction. It seems like a protown move to me, even if a little weak.

Do you think Creature slipped here?

Not doing it, it's already pointless.

If Yume is scum, scum should have already told her about it.

Nvm.

No, I am just used for scum having confirmed daychat in large theme games.

That was addressed to Magna because he seems to have given you a pass there when Nahdia was not.

Mod - I'll be V/LA from basically now til Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties. Including taking impressionable tweens to haunted houses ..."

Did anyone else have the thought that Nosferatu probably wouldn't be so clueless about who is in what slot (not realizing Blade Dancer & Giga have been replaced) if he were communicating with a scumteam? Cause I mean, that sprung to mind but I'm sort of struggling with whether the whole premise of that being towny is dumb and bad.

Have I mentioned lately I love when scum just take for granted that their Daytalk is common knowledge when nothing in the rules from the Mod indicates Daytalk is in effect?

I really love it ...

Those are the only interactions Narna has with Magna between his TRing him and claiming that he wants to "go after him again".

Narna is scum who can't keep his fakereads straight. Lynch Narna.

[Leonshade]

@Narna:

I'd like to know your top SRs and TRs.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW Narna is a she I believe. And that is interesting. I'd just been so ticked off by the double-N advocates that I somehow developed a townread on Narna to match my one on Nahdia.

[Leonshade]

It says "he" under his avatar.

Don't trust me on the Magna thing, read Narna's ISO. Pretending that he's pushed on Magna before is serious misdirection, and relatively easy to get away with in a large game.

[Not Chara]

Narna is a he. you should check a player's pronouns before correcting others, haha. :>

also: scum keep track of who they've pushed. forgetting about an earlier read based on new information is towny. forgetting in

general

is kind of a towntell. it's really easy to accidentally overwrite one's own memories.
however. the first point in 3235 is actually very good. i didn't realize at the time that Narna jumped off his top scumread onto Leon.
can you explain that, Narna?

pedit: Leon was faster.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well he's been dealing with Magna's shitty-ass misquotations, that looks like something I could interpret as a "push", however it is

against

Magna, not on Magna.

[Maxous]

VOTE: narna

Alright.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am in favor of the Narna wagon now though.

LET'S FLIP NARNA
(╯°Д°）╯︵ /(.□ . \)

VOTE: Narna

[PeregrineV]

Ok I'm finally caught up! (and there was much rejoicing... yaaaaayyyy)

I would lynch any of:

MagnaofIllusion
Nosferatu
SnarkySnowman
massive
Accountant/Firebringer
Titus
Not Chara
PeregrineV

Fight me, fam.

Narna was just in Wakes 42 madness and was clearly town. That's. It who I see here. Why do you think she is town?

I see posts like 1616 and 2217 and don't really see scum making those posts.

Why couldn't scum post this?

Yo House, is it mostly me or mostly "I'm too afraid to post" pepto who is causing the scumread for you?

Why do you assume the reason people scumread pepto is fear of posting?

Because Pepto was obviously afraid of posting. See the 12 posts of fence sitting followed by a replacement.

I haven't read all of them yet, but that's what I was seeing. I'm claiming town obviously.

Yes, 2217 is a positive thing, even if most of the reasons are gutvibe types.

However, MoI goes from a townlean to a scumread. I read through abut couldn;t really idenify the why.
Based on those 2 attributes, 2217 could also have come from scum.

Did you look through the recent Wake game?

[McMenno]

peregrinev my man vote narna with us

[Not Chara]

going to ISO Narna and Magna together in a minute.
Magna is still much more likely scum, but i want to look at Narna's progression on McMenno to be sure.

[zakk]

rip town

[Not Chara]

unfortunately, i didn't have time to recheck Magna.

i looked, but i can't find why Narna decided to jump off McMenno there in the least. similarly to Titus, there's little pressing of the McMenno lynch to actually go through, after Narna rejoins it.

Narna, i'd like you to talk about what exactly is going on with your vote progression.

[Ankamius]

Oh hey, are we finally lynching scum?

[Skullduggery]

Yume, Shiro, and SnarkySnowman have been prodded.