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Just read up.
Seeing Mollie as town which is my first town read. Gut town feeling on ArcAngel.
Unsure on Wisdom, I have a sight feeling on MattP, but I need to see more, but I can probably see him being town.
Whiskers I have played with before, but I want to check something on meta as I haven't played with him in a while.
Nacho is being quite defensive, but I think he's probably town for it.
VOTE: Penguin_Alien
I like my vote there for now.^No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Yes you're right in that you're crushed. You're gonna be crushed scum PA.
Confirmed vote stays.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Why ask me and not the other two who have said it before me?In post 92, Wisdom wrote:
Explain how he's being defensive. I don't see it.In post 78, Malakittens wrote:Nacho is being quite defensive, but I think he's probably town for it.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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78 isn't too long, really Shos? It's about the same size as your catch up.
Wisdom - his ISO the last few posts by him are reading as defensive. I can quote them if you like, but for me it makes me lean town on him.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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This is what read defensive to me. You probably won't agree, but it's fine we can agree to disagree.In post 47, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I'm not the one who needs to give excuses. You need to start giving me excuses for jumping off scum-Wisdom's wagon.In post 40, ArcAngel9 wrote:
now what you excuse you got.. you cheater.. i will have my revenge on you..In post 35, Nachomamma8 wrote:
NO NO NO NO NOIn post 30, ArcAngel9 wrote:lot of known faces...
hey mattp, long time..
aww...my dear mollie is here I also think Nacho is scum, he cheated me on the other game. lets lynch him first.Wisdom can wait.
VOTE: Nacho
Because we were the two people who started the initial push on you.In post 42, Wisdom wrote:Obviously. Why would whiskers be your buddy in that fantasy you're describing instead of someone else who voted me?
Why do you ask?
I wasn't being defensive; I was making fun of you.In post 44, pirate mollie wrote:I never said I thought you were scum I voted you cos I thought it would be funny and I wanted to see what you would do
why so defensive
Grim, I'm sorry that I used my vote on Penguin_Alien instead of you. I chose to sort her outfirstbefore I even decide to touch you.
I don't however agree with a scum read on either Arc or Mollie. Neither of them are looking like scum moreso for Mollie than Arc.
Shos I been trying out a new playstyle for a while. I tried it out during Les Mesirables and to some extent it worked well, but part of it is that some of these players we are currently playing with are mostly transparent for me. Mollie and Arc are both of those players, I can read Penguin to an extent well, but I need her to post, but I do like my vote where it currently is because I can see right now Penguin flipping scum and not town.
My theory about MattP has totally been proven wrong so scratch any type of read I may or may not have had on him.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Thought you could only be a hammer rather than using your vote normally which I thought was more townish than a scum role. Instead you voted normally which disapproved that theory all together.In post 132, MattP wrote:
Oh, now I'm interested! What was this theoryIn post 131, Malakittens wrote:My theory about MattP has totally been proven wrong so scratch any type of read I may or may not have had on him.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In the end I went back onto the wiki and misread that role description. So yeah kill that whole theory in the end.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Actor
What I thought you possibly were.
My mind is not right at the moment. ._.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I'll bite, why?
(I didn't ask GG since Whiskers said it first and there's no reason for a repeated request.)No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Here we go again.In post 139, Wisdom wrote:Because you're scum
That's not going to hold. You have a *real* reason so tell me why you think that.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Can we not answer for him?In post 142, Desperado wrote:Mala, why did you have to ask Wisdom why he's voting you? Was #124 unclear?
He does this litteraly every single game I'm in with him. He'll call me scum; tunnel the living fuck out of me. If I'm town I either get frustrated to the point I want to replace out or not play with him for a while or b) ignore him and hope he goes away. If I'm scum he frustrates me to the point I just don't bother responding to him and just NK him that night.
He can't and won't always be right in every single game. He needs to learn this.
So yes I want to see if its something more than #124.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Lol. No I didn't. I answered you, but I was on my phone and couldn't quote because I was running to work. I was tryin to point you to one of his last ISO posts and hoping I didn't have to go take your hand and show you were it was.In post 143, Wisdom wrote:You sheeped the 'nacho is defensive' belief because that's what it seemed the cool kids were doing. When I asked you why you believe that, you basically answered "ask them, I don't know" and yet then you tried, foolishly, to provide an original opinion on why he was defensive in hopes of not looking scummy. But it sucks because nacho wasn't anything close to defensive.
Even your "I didn't ask grimgroove because that" thingy is you covering the case someone would point that out. You overly care not to appear scummy.
See the thing is people call me defensive all the freaking time yet when they go so and so post is defensive I'm like yeah no it's not. However yes Nacho's post looked defensive to me and not everyone sees everything the same way as another person. However I already stated his defensive posts weren't scummy as hell to me, but instead made me lean town. So the whole Mala's sheeping the cool kids club is wrong and party a misrep on your part. My town read on Nacho is probably different than lets say Arc's town read on him. And idk even know what he's reading to Mollie anymore.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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There is a reason why you WERE on a personal black list of mine. Which is a reason why I made Evil Regals because I was sick of playing with the same players over and over again and being tunneled in general. Mastin was one of them, you were a second one of them.
I made ER for three things; 1) kill the Mala has rolled scum:town 9:3 time ratio in less than a month. I was being overly emotional in my playstyle because tunneling in general was getting under my skin (see xeno via Mastin and NY:Mana via Mollie). And I wanted a bit of a fresh start. Had you known ER was me your whole approach that game would have been different. The same way as you acted when I revealed who I was in that newbie.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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It's your tunneling in general that pisses me off regardless of my alignment in any past game we played. I guess you have a point you haven't tunneled me as town, but right now you're tunneling on town me. It's going to fucking annoy me really, really fast. So fucking back off and let me play or else I won't stay here very long because I will and I mean I will replace out.
You do this to me every single fucking game and you probably get a kick out of it.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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You are in the early stages of it, but considering I already gave you a gold mine in reactions I can see you not backing down now.
I joined this game because I'm a mythology geek so I put aside my personal black list due to it.
Anyways ~Night.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Considering the only recent games we played together I was scum in, besides DP where I was ER, it feels like every single game.In post 153, Wisdom wrote:
Again, this is a lie. I have never tunneled on you when you were town.In post 151, Malakittens wrote:You do this to me every single fucking game and you probably get a kick out of it.
When you saw ER was me in the newbie you decided to keep on tunneling and was lol it was Mala. So again point proven you get a kick out tunneling me.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I have a decent way of reading pen. The more she doesn't post the more of a chance she's scum. So yes my vote was to bait her into posting (which worked the first time). It's not a sticky vote Mollie. I need her around so I can actively read her and she's around, but not posting here.
I recently found something newish for reading Nacho thanks to Jiffy and that's where my defensive tell came into play.
GG I played with Mollie and Arc a lot, a lot more than any player here. They are pretty transparent to me. This is Mollie's town game and if I'm right this is also arc's town game.
As for whiskers I haven't had time to check and I always mix him up with rd. I need to go to that open game soon and will probably do it after work maybe. My net last night was really slow when I turned off my laptop couldn't get shit to load and didn't really go away til my mom turned off her tablet.-.- I was mobile posting for that whole wisdom thing and starting to get irraited while tryin to sleep so it was emotional on my part, but I need him to leave me alone and not tunnel me to a point it's not fun anymore to play this game.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Right now my leaning scum read and biggest one is Peng.In post 190, Wisdom wrote:
okay.In post 188, Malakittens wrote:but I need him to leave me alone and not tunnel me to a point it's not fun anymore to play this game.
Who is scum?
I got a few town reads and a few leaning ones.
Shos is a maybe scum only because I played a similar way in Les and he's scum reading me here for playing on gut/having town reads.
I still have to sort out others, but that's where I'm starting to look as of right now.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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It's not the lack of activity that's making me lean scum on her. It's the fact she appeared right after I voted for her that makes me really lean scum on her.In post 192, Grimgroove wrote:
What is it about Penguin Alien's two (!!) posts that's so scummy?In post 191, Malakittens wrote:Right now my leaning scum read and biggest one is Peng.
Do you have a history of games with her where you can show me that lack of acitivty during the start of the game means penguin = scum, and where the opposite happened when penguin = town?
I could in fact take a look at a past game and see if the way I'm approaching her this game is similar to the way I approached her that game. I forgot exactly why last time I thought I saw Peng-scum I let it go, but it was back in Mastin's game in NY. I think I let her slide because she was the only one at the time giving me the time of day to actually talk to me about my reads.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Her reply is very similar in timing to this. Please note I voted her and then she responded there to how I did here. It's odd how she only decided to come into this thread after a voted landed on her.In post 196, Grimgroove wrote:In post 188, Malakittens wrote:I have a decent way of reading pen. The more she doesn't post the more of a chance she's scum. So yes my vote was to bait her into posting (which worked the first time)
Hmm, it's not what you said before.In post 193, Malakittens wrote: It's not the lack of activity that's making me lean scum on her. It's the fact she appeared right after I voted for her that makes me really lean scum on her.
I want to see how your 1v1 with Penguin plays out when she gets here. But I don't see you initializing the conversation with her. Apart from that empty vote and a tongue-in-cheek comment that you'll leave that vote there I haven't seen any concrete effort from your side to spur Penguin into action.
Well, it's kinda hard to initializing conversation when only one half is here. How am I supposed to initialize a conversation with her w/o her being present. Hence why I'mhavingsome discussion about her hoping it would lure her into this game. Maybe some help from someone else would be veryhelpfulto me right now or else I have to get my result somewhere else, but I rather not.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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welp my dad just came home and my internet fucking went to shit, fuck this so much.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Mine was never an RVS vote here actually since we were out of RVS way before I appeared at least in my mind since there was some discussion going.In post 213, penguin_alien wrote:
There's a big difference between an RVS vote and a serious vote on Day Five of a game. I don't see your point.In post 207, Malakittens wrote:Her reply is very similar in timing to this. Please note I voted her and then she responded there to how I did here. It's odd how she only decided to come into this thread after a voted landed on her.
shos, do you have a specific problem with MattP's vote on you?
stoppppppppppp ninjaaaaaaaing me ._.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Lol I'm going to love reading anything by Ooba if this keeps up.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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I disagree. She's still doing the similar post only when called upon thing that she did when she was scum in Manical (Mastin-NY)
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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I'm switching between hydra accounts, in between tabs discussing, in skype chat with Chamber trying to fix my League DNS issue (I crashed and can't log back in.) and playing fetch with my kitten. I'm multitasking, it's fun, but annoying.In post 248, Wisdom wrote:
which apparently, you're also doing. I voted you and you popped up.In post 246, Malakittens wrote:I disagree. She's still doing the similar post only when called upon thing that she did when she was scum in Manical (Mastin-NY)
It's part of her scum-meta to do this, but you're ignoring it and treating her like town because she's only focusing on any interactions that's coming at her instead of taking the bull by the horns and looking at other posts like I know town-Peng to do so.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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She's following her scum meta to a tee, but you took the vote off and said her previous posts looks better, but they do not. This to me is odd especially coming from you.In post 254, Wisdom wrote:
watIn post 253, Malakittens wrote:but you're ignoring it and treating her like townNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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You know the picture thing is amusing. He should tell me what he uses. Kinda tempted to try it out because it looks fun. I remember loving VM's restriction with pictures. The only type of restrictions that annoyed me was the ones in Meme's (The rick roll micros x2)No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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So like when I shouldn't have been I skimmed part of page 12 at work because I got bored. I can't really tell if Shos is just naive town or scum. Probably scum, but hey yeah.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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This is a null tell for Shos as I have seen town and scum Shos do it, but he feels off this game especially with him bitching about me having early town reads. In past games he's never been grouchy about it as town, but this game he seems to have a big problem with itIn post 315, Whiskers wrote:He's doing a catchup that looks good. And I know, Information over analysis, and I also know, that a catchup is really easy to make look good. But I'm not really reading anything into it more than gut right now.
Just seems to me that, Town outnumber scum (although, now that I think about it, we don't know that. But still, it's assumed), so I'm doing a more of an "innocent until proven guilty" thing. Or maybe, "Neutral until suggested otherwise." You say shos is scum, I'm not really sure why.
Those three players, in fact, look just fine to me-- null, meaning "Don't lynch them." Mirai is my least-favourite of the group, but if I recall correctly, that can be blamed on OMGUS.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Lies Grim. When I have a meta read on someone or even a gut read ill go all out. See funky in Mis, I'm sure I have done it in the past with others, but can't remember where. I did it off site and managed to get myself lynched instead.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Hydra'ing with Mara has taught me a few things. One is to be more confident in my scum reads and second even if I hate 1v1 because I'm a shitty player at it to do it if I really believe a player is scum.
I can't link now. I'm mobile for the next hour or so.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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GG here's a recent game where i pushed a lynch on DrDolittle Day 1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=32611
I also didn't back down from Funky until something happened at the end of Day 1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31879
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Wisdom reads are as follows:
Town:
Mollie
Arc
Leaning Town:
Nacho
MattP
Wisdom
Desperado (It's weakest out of all of them.)
Null:
Everyone else
Leaning scum:
Shos
GrimGroove
Scum:
PenguinNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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The fuck are you referring to?I agree to that. but I think that catch where GG took mala (and later when she 'suddenly' came out of the hydra) is more strong(stronger?) so I'm keeping my vote there.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Fuck I really want a Peng lynch, but at this point I think I'll be more than willing to settle for a Shos lynch.
I'm not at all reading him as town not one bit in the slightest.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Shos did you read my post where I have played NUMEROUS games with Mollie AND Arc AND Nacho? Arc is transparent as a ghost to me, but Mollie can be at times also. Nacho I learned something off Majiffy, but I'm just trying it now. MattP was a gut thing from the wiki that I remember reading as I already explained, but since then that has been proven wrong (he voted), but MattP and I tend to be very explosive towards each other as opposite alignments, but when we are both town we tolerate each other. (However that was one of our first games on site so I don't hold much water to it..)
I'm pretty sure all three of those are town along with MattP.^
You say I'm faking reads, but I'm not. I didn't feel like doing a catchup like you are doing because it doesn't suit any purpose to me.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Never seen him defend someone so much as he's doing with Peng right now. It's just a horrible gut feeling I have and not going to let it go until I get a flip that let's me know about Peng.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Hey Mollie
Hey Mollie
What's your read on me?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Yeah I saw it earlier and it strengthened the TR I had on her.In post 638, Nachomamma8 wrote:Yeah, it's like her signature move.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Because really the only time the chair is posted is when she's town. I mean she might do it as scum, but I have never seen it before in the games she's played with me.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I'm aware, but I already had a strong town read on her before the chair.In post 645, Whiskers wrote:
So, there's no reason for her not to do it as scum.In post 644, Malakittens wrote:Because really the only time the chair is posted is when she's town. I mean she might do it as scum, but I have never seen it before in the games she's played with me.
It would be playing to her town meta and make her look townier, in a time when her alignment is doubtful.
The previous is so true, that it strengthened your town read on her.
Hnnng, so there are lots of reasons why shewoulddo it as scum.
It's WIFOMy, and also null.
She has reasons that she could do it as scum sure. One for WIFOM is correct, but sheisplaying to her town meta beforebeforethe chair. So her using it to make her look townier in my "eyes" isn't a factor so not sure why you are using this as an argument against me.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Yes it's an argument against me because you are trying to discredit my town read on her.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I have posted recently Shos.
I rather lynch Peng over Shos.
Won't touch Mollie at all this day phrase.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Will post soon; shower, housework.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Can we lynch Peng, please?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Well; having Peng flipped would give me some information on Shos and Grim. Their excessive buddying is annoying so I doubt they are scum together, but at least one of them is a good chance at being scum.In post 860, MattP wrote:You realize that if Shos and Grim are town that there's a lot of stuff that needs to be sorted before we lynch Penguin
Peng is just scum to me. I doubt and really doubt she'll flip town. She's just not giving me town vibes at all. Not one little bit.
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I tunnelled on town-Peng in the past and she didn't react like this. THIS IS HER FUCKING SCUM GAME.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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This doesn't chive w/ your last post before this.In post 868, Desperado wrote:@ Wisdom: Arc (early townread w/ mollie) and someone weird...Mirari?
Mala, I'm seeing the same things you are. I don't think it's her towngame either.
With that said, humans are...human, and she might just be off her towngame.
You are now thinking Peng is a ML and I'm scum.
Get your feelings straight.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 872, Desperado wrote:My issue with her threat to replace out is that she was basically crying wolf. Wisdom didn't start tunnelling her until after she whined about him starting to tunnel her.
PEdit: Derp. I said if you are scum then Penguin is a mislynch.
So your vote on me to tell me you think I'm town?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Dude he took a break.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 865, Desperado wrote:If Mala is scum then mollie (shitty chair townread) and penguin (designated ML) are both town
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You were calling me town prior and then you decided to flip-flop.In post 889, Desperado wrote:
Where in that post am I calling you town?In post 883, Malakittens wrote:In post 865, Desperado wrote:If Mala is scum then mollie (shitty chair townread) and penguin (designated ML) are both town
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I know. I been skimming posts.In post 904, Wisdom wrote:Mala, do you remember what happened the last time you decided to ignore me?
I'm might be pushing only Peng, but I'm hunting for her scumbuddies.In post 901, Wisdom wrote:So it's okay for her to just push one player and disregard the rest of the game? Really?
I'm hunting people it's not like I have her as my only scum read and it's not like I'm not looking for town reads either.In post 909, Nachomamma8 wrote:Even thought that's not what she's doing but w/e.
Lies. I'm not only responding to Desp. You're kidding me right?In post 910, Wisdom wrote:That looks fake, Nacho. You never expected me to say that? How so? If you are referring to my tunnels, even when I have them, I don't ignore the rest of the game. But even if I did, are we talking about me here? Does Mala play anything like me?
How is what she is doing ok? She is only responding to Desp, she is only spamming "lynch peng" and she is doing nothing. How are you not doubting your read on her at all given such play?
Nah. I know it was full of emotion, I was cranky, tired and wasn't wanting to deal with Wisdom's tunneling. I can see how him not wanting to play with me again regardless of my alignment due to it. I didn't comment to it because it was honest and truthful not because of anything else.In post 911, Grimgroove wrote:
Yes, that is all very good, but I was referring to room 876 and obviously was not talking about the stuff that has been rendered irrelevant thanks to your briljant replies.In post 907, MattP wrote:@Grim: Face my demons? You missed a post that you based the majority of your case on not existing (that is, Wisdom having called you scum)I pointed out the post, and I explained everything in your large posts directed at me. I also pointed out I wasn't lying about going on a break
But you're not talking yourself out of that slip with Mala. Because you didn't use logic in that one. You used a play on emotions and I caught it. You're good at using logic against people, but you're lacking in the emo-use department.
I KNOW you wouldn't make a threat like that and I KNOW MAlakittens would not ignore such a threat unless it came from a scumpartner.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I already given you a ton of readlists.
I already given you my thoughts on Mollie. You didn't see where I commented on Mollie's posts. My posts 641, 644, 647 & 649.
I still don't like Shos, but he's not my lynch I want this day phrase. I rather have Peng and then maybe about Shos. I don't like his attacks on me and his buddying with GG. However read my 867 for more thoughts on it.
I still liking my town read on Nacho.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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It could be possible, but I was townreading her early.
I mean I don't even have a read on Whiskers yet. I am not the best at reading that kid.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Why can't nacho and I both be town? ;-;
I just have a really hard time reading Whiskers. I town read him in our first game together and it wasn't until late game when I realized he was scum. Only because he did something similar to me what GM did in DP.
I think she can have a strong scum game and fool me, but this doesn't feel like the fooling type of game by her, however. I been fooled in the past by scum her, so you can argue the validity of me being able to read her isn't that great.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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This is different than what I remember besides the ending of one of his posts reminded me a bit of the scum game, but it is a minor thing.
I gotta go listen to 8 hours of Christmas songs! Back later (at break).No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I am being helpful; you're the one refusing to believe what I'm saying isn't helpful.In post 943, Wisdom wrote:See, she reponds like this, refuses to be helpful, and then I have to accept she is town. I can't.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Because I was going into work and didn't have the time to read through everything and give a proper read. I was giving you my read on him before the ISO read and a possible read on the old game.In post 955, Wisdom wrote:How? I am asking you to read Whiskers and you tell me "it looks like his town game and one post like his scum game".
That's helpful? Comment on his content, comment on his exchange with mollie, comment on his exchanges with me. You have seen the guy in another game.
But no, you just rush a forced read and run away.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 964, Wisdom wrote:Mala we are on page 39 and you still have done nothing. It's not just this time. I shouldn't have to ask you to provide content, you should be doing it on your own.
Yeah okay. I have interacted with most of the active players besides {Whiskers/Nacho}. I am chasing my strongest scum read, but that means nothing to you, apparently. This is Penguin's scum game, but you're not seeing it. As I stated last time I chased her when she was scum she shrughed me off very similar to what's she's doing now. She's not posting, but coasting. This IS her scum game. When she was town and I did go after she reacted differently. She was engaging most of the players and this game she is not doing that at all. Plus I noticed in her town game she moves her votes around faster than she does in her scum games. All of which she's not doing.
I am leaving Mollie alone because I don't want a repeat of our NY game. I will only interact with her if necessary. If I see a post by her I don't like I'll calll her out about it.
MattP has been an early town read for me. I really thought he had a vote restriction on him, but as I said our playstyles mesh together when we are both the same alignment, but when one of us are at difference of alignment we are like dynamite. I really also like his posts and he feels town to me.
Desperado is a bit different because I misread him in NY and the rest of my games I was either scum with him or scum against him. He has no qualms about bussing or distancing himself from a partner so I need to take a wait and see approach when it comes to him. {I know that's not enough for some people, but I need more time with him.}
Wisdom I think however you're town.
ArcAngel9 is destroying my town read on her by not posting, but she's been known to do it as both alignments. So you can't really take much into reading her as either alignment when she lurks. I know she changed her playstyle in one newbie and micro game we played together and I really enjoyed it there. Part of me wishes she would go back to it.
Shos and Grim is kinda hard to give a pure read on them. Both of them are buddying each other hard; overlapping with each others reads. Gut says one is scum and one is town; wagon says Shos might be town, but doesn't tell me what Grim is. Facts say this is too obvious for scum partners. So either one is town and the other is scum or one is town and the other is town.
I want to hear more on Ooba and Mirari. Ooba I want to hear your thoughts on Mirari saying that he can read you well because you both live together.
Mirari I got a question for you; can you back up any credibility of being able to read Ooba in the past due to this.
As for Whiskers; I don't agree with him chasing Mollie at all. Whiskers is sorta doing what I'm doing to Penguin, but has actual posts from Mollie to back up reads. Mollie unlike Penguinisn'tcoasting at this point. Whisker's 328 in regards to the meta post feels fake because when Town-Whiskers just went "Whatever, whatever" to meta, but this it feels like he's overreacting and it's fake. I don't see the 1v1 with him and Mollie as a town v town. I don't see it as a s v s either. It's a t v s 1v1.
In other words; leaning scum on Whiskers. If someone wants to explain why they disagree with this read of mine, please go ahead because I'm not really seeing Whiskers as town based on this ISO.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I have seen people skip RVS, but I don't believe I have seen him skip it along with I'm only willing to hammer Wisdom felt to me like he had a vote restriction which then was proven wrong when he voted later in the stage. I commented on this in the early game.In post 969, Wisdom wrote:
You thought that just because he didn't RVS? Why? Have you never seen people skipping RVS?In post 965, Malakittens wrote:I really thought he had a vote restriction on him
Why didn't you ask me about that earlier?
I'm aware Shos has been buddying Grim. It's overbuddying which makes me feel like it's too obvious to be scum partners. However I feel like we don't have a scum-scum, but we either have a town-town or a scum-town combination in our hands with them.In post 970, Wisdom wrote:
Eew wtf did I just readIn post 965, Malakittens wrote:Shos and Grim is kinda hard to give a pure read on them. Both of them are buddying each other hard; overlapping with each others reads. Gut says one is scum and one is town; wagon says Shos might be town, but doesn't tell me what Grim is. Facts say this is too obvious for scum partners. So either one is town and the other is scum or one is town and the other is town.
First of all, you are completely wrong. shoshasbeen buddying Grim, Grim has changed his read on shos a thousand times AND called shos out on his excessive buddying.
Secondly, "wagon says shos might be town"? Wtf is this? How?
This post sounded like typical bullshit scum make up.
The wagon on Shos built a built quicker than I expected which leads to me that Shos could be town. It's not a definitive town read and probably not as reliable as I would love it to be. So either Shos' partners ARE busing him OR he's town. As I said the Grim seems to be defending Peng early, but so did Shos. So having a Peng flip would give me more information on others players.
It's not "typical" bullshit scum make up. This is how I form some of my reads early in Day 1; I have been known to do it with some of my hydras and sometimes my partners don't even understand. It's just how I think; how I play; how I hunt. If that makes me sound scum so be it, but that's my thoughts on the process of the Shos-wagon.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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No. You commented on it because you are trying to tell me it's made up bullshit, but it's not. It's what I was thinking in my head at the time. I'm trying to justify my reads at those times.In post 976, Wisdom wrote:
I didn't care about it, I found it stupid and I had better things to care about. But now you keep repeating it in your attempts to justify your reads, which is bullshit.In post 974, Malakittens wrote:Why didn't you ask me about that earlier?
You keep trying to ask me for my reads, but now that I give them to you you are just going to seriously sit here; discredit them; call them bullshit and call them made up scum bullshit.
Don't ask me for something and then proceed to do this.
I been engaged in this game, but it's not the engage that you would like from me.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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