Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

[Nachomamma8]

Doesn't need to do anything else, though.

[Wisdom]

So it's okay for her to just push one player and disregard the rest of the game? Really?

[Grimgroove]

@ Nachomamma:

Your Malakittens townread is crap. But you're probably town. Wrong, but town.

I had it reversed earlier. You're not using Malakittens to look good after her townlynch. Malakittens is using you as a shield and you are letting her. Why?
That last part of 896 is horrible. The spotlight-thing. Really horrible.

[Malakittens]

If Mala is scum then mollie (shitty chair townread) and penguin (designated ML) are both town

Unvote
Vote: Mala

Where in that post am I calling you town?

You were calling me town prior and then you decided to flip-flop.

[Wisdom]

Mala, do you remember what happened the last time you decided to ignore me?

[Desperado]

You were calling me town prior and then you decided to flip-flop.

I have never called you town.

[Elyse]

Sorry for the infrequent votecounts over the last bunch of pages. Really busy day today!

Votecount 1.08

Nachomamma8 - 3 - ArcAngel9, shos, Grimgroove (L-4)
penguin_alien - 3 - Malakittens, ooba, Wisdom (L-4)
Mirari - 1 - penguin_alien (L-6)
shos - 2 - Mirari, Nachomamma8 (L-5)
Whiskers - 1 - pirate mollie (L-6)
Wisdom - 1 - MattP (L-6)
Malakittens - 1 - Desperado (L-6)

Not Voting - Whiskers

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2013-12-21 12:00:00)
Mirari and pirate mollie are V/LA until Sunday.

Interesting Fact #9: Zeus threw Hephaestus off of Mount Olympus after Hephaestus sided with Hera in a disagreement.

[MattP]

@Grim: Face my demons? You missed a post that you based the majority of your case on not existing (that is, Wisdom having called you scum)

I pointed out the post, and I explained everything in your large posts directed at me. I also pointed out I wasn't lying about going on a break. So that leaves this post, as you say:

If Mala is scum and did the "I'm going to replace if you tunnel me" thing to Wisdom at the beginning of the game I'm going to never join another game with her

I don't buy this. Not from you Matt. Not from the Matt I've seen.

You're going to buy it, and you're going to wear it.

What am I supposed to say to this singular point I didn't respond to? And you can't respond to my other responses?

[Nachomamma8]

So it's okay for her to just push one player and disregard the rest of the game? Really?

This is something I never expected you to say. But yeah, it is.

[Nachomamma8]

Even thought that's not what she's doing but w/e.

[Wisdom]

That looks fake, Nacho. You never expected me to say that? How so? If you are referring to my tunnels, even when I have them, I don't ignore the rest of the game. But even if I did, are we talking about me here? Does Mala play anything like me?

How is what she is doing ok? She is only responding to Desp, she is only spamming "lynch peng" and she is doing nothing. How are you not doubting your read on her at all given such play?

[Grimgroove]

@Grim: Face my demons? You missed a post that you based the majority of your case on not existing (that is, Wisdom having called you scum)I pointed out the post, and I explained everything in your large posts directed at me. I also pointed out I wasn't lying about going on a break

Yes, that is all very good, but I was referring to room 876 and obviously was not talking about the stuff that has been rendered irrelevant thanks to your briljant replies.

But you're not talking yourself out of that slip with Mala. Because you didn't use logic in that one. You used a play on emotions and I caught it. You're good at using logic against people, but you're lacking in the emo-use department.

I KNOW you wouldn't make a threat like that and I KNOW MAlakittens would not ignore such a threat unless it came from a scumpartner.

[Grimgroove]

Even thought that's not what she's doing but w/e.

You jsut answered "nothing" to Wisdom's question what else she was doing apart from tunneling penguin.
And now this?

You're not adding up, but I can't see you scum. Are you in love with Malakittens or something?

[Grimgroove]

Maybe I shouldn't be in this status when on MS. It almost feels as if I'm cheating

[Wisdom]

Why can you not see him as scum?

[MattP]

Town case on her still applies, and the push on penguin means that 1) they definitely aren't scum together and 2) she's more in the spotlight than she's comfortable being as scum. It has good conviction.

@Grim: Face my demons? You missed a post that you based the majority of your case on not existing (that is, Wisdom having called you scum)I pointed out the post, and I explained everything in your large posts directed at me. I also pointed out I wasn't lying about going on a break

Yes, that is all very good, but I was referring to room 876 and obviously was not talking about the stuff that has been rendered irrelevant thanks to your briljant replies.

But you're not talking yourself out of that slip with Mala. Because you didn't use logic in that one. You used a play on emotions and I caught it. You're good at using logic against people, but you're lacking in the emo-use department.

I KNOW you wouldn't make a threat like that and I KNOW MAlakittens would not ignore such a threat unless it came from a scumpartner.

Would you like me to actually waste my time and effort searching for and providing examples in prior games where I said something to that effect? In fact, I'm PRETTY sure, off the top of my head, I've NEVER made a threat like that as scum and I've done it at LEAST 3 times as town.

[Grimgroove]

Would you like me to actually waste my time and effort searching for and providing examples in prior games where I said something to that effect?

Yes.
But even then.
Earlier you said you were a changed man. I think it was somewhere during RVS? Let me fetch it.

[MattP]

Oh look, I quoted something of Nacho's that didn't give me a townread on Mala. What a shame.

Nacho, I'm asking you for your strongest read not to catch you in something. I have 6 strong townreads. I'd like 7. I think that's a good number. Please help me get there.

Pedit: I have morals.

[MattP]

Now I'm "gamebreaking". Think whatever you want gangster.

[Grimgroove]

Pirate mollie, I was annoyed with the way you treated me in mykos game. However I'm going to be much more calm and rational this game than I've been before. I think taking a break from games was good.

See?
How useful is your pre-break meta under these circumstances?

[Grimgroove]

Now I'm "gamebreaking". Think whatever you want gangster.

What do you mean, gamebreaking?

[MattP]

Pirate mollie, I was annoyed with the way you treated me in mykos game. However I'm going to be much more calm and rational this game than I've been before. I think taking a break from games was good.

See?
How useful is your pre-break meta under these circumstances?

Ok, sure, but take a step back from the computer, turn your head around, and turn it back towards this post you just made and ask yourself from 1-10 how ridiculously high you sound right now.

[MattP]

Now I'm "gamebreaking". Think whatever you want gangster.

What do you mean, gamebreaking?

I just complained about people gamebreaking by threatening replacement. Now I'm trying to use me being angry at people threatening to replace as a towntell for myself. It's not much better.

[Grimgroove]

You're not going to replace out, are you? I didn't mean to be mean

[Whiskers]

note to self:
read http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5502557 later.