UK and I are never the same alignment.
[color#0000FF]Therefore, it can be said with certainty that UK is scum.[/color]
VOTE: UK
Any questions? No? Good.
Vi wrote:And this is how we know it's a Fate game.Fate wrote:Waking up to Eternity
It is what it is
Let's get this madhouse hate war started.So, as you all know, I fly off the handle at things I perceive as stupid. Instead of that, I am quite simply going to ignore whatever absolutely DICKTARDED thing is said that would normally set me off. So remember kids, if I'm not responding to your points, that probably means you're a fucking idiot and should reconsider how you use your brain cells. Or consider using them in the first place, really.
But I'm sure we won't have that problem with THIS playerlist, right~?Vote: UncertainKitten(L-3)
for promising to lurk when under pressure.
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I am town this game.
UK and I are never the same alignment.
Therefore, it can be said with certainty that UK is scum.
VOTE: UK
Any questions? No? Good.Unvote: UncertainKitten(L-6)
Vote: Lady Lambdadelta
So... You'reguaranteeingthat you're not the same alignment as UK, but merelyimplyingthat UK is scum...?
Also, since nobody else wants to bring it up, I will. Are we going to do anything at all with the bounties?
Nachomamma8 wrote:Vi, I want to keep my lynches pure and townie.
I was also playing with the idea of nameclaiming.
Nachomamma8 wrote:You're missing the point. Insert coin and try again.Lady Lambadelta wrote:@Vi: Have you ever read Umineko? It's a joke. Red truth must always be the truth etc. It's being said because UK and I have never been the same alignment in a game.
\Vi wrote:What's disturbing about this is who's hosting that image. (Hint: me)UncertainKitten wrote:@Seraphim: ...I should be ignoring you, but this is too perfect.
You answered mine@Vi: Never said I'd lurk, merely that I wouldn't answer batshit insane points. It seems to be the only way I'll avoid getting really irritated at people.
Lady I Know I'm Going to Start Abusing Non-Alphanumeric Characters In A Few Pages - I've never read Umineko but I know what the colors mean.
Even so. The question is why that third sentence isn't in red.
Bounties - Right now I don't think there's any reason to deal with it, but later on it might be worth bringing up. It depends on how the game goes.
I think this would be best answered around when the bounties start coming into play.I really hate to setup speculate but who is most likely to be scum? I was thinking Vicious might be possible but who the hell would he be partnered with? BTW, I have a vague amount of flavor knowledge, I've watched a few episodes of the show but that's about it, though I do know SOME things.
Antitown wrote:Vote: LLD
Last time she used those pretty colors, she was scum.
Also greetings to all I have played with before (everyone except Toast)and possibly rhinox, who died in 50 posts
Antitown wrote:^ I approve of this random vote. P. Edit - But apparently Vi does not...Antitown wrote:Vote: LLD
Last time she used those pretty colors, she was scum.
Also greetings to all I have played with before (everyone except Toast)and possibly rhinox, who died in 50 posts
I've played with toast, so, as a whole, we've played with everyone.
P. Edit 2: Dammit Kat, don't get us thrown out!
Please read the bounty mechanics. You'll find this isn't true.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:On another note... I'm wary about Bounty lynches becauseit may only take one lynch to activate a bounty power for the entire game
P. Edit 3: People, just let me post already!
-AH
Nachomamma8 wrote:But how good can a power really be if it only takes one bounty to get it?
ToastyToast wrote:Ugh, sry about the quote fail in #57
My vote on seraphim is a gutread that I'm ready to change when I find someone to be more scummy. His soft-claim just struck me as something intended to confuse. Like "hey...I have information that may hurt the scum team, but I'm not going to tell you it TEEHEE"UncertainKitten wrote:@Toasty: Elaborate the scum intent behind Seraphim's soft claim
Agreed. The whole BountyUncertainKitten wrote:Mm...can I request a halt to this line of logic? I feel it's dancing around softclaims which we kinda have too many of for three pages. It can, and probably should be revisited later. But for now I think we're not at a good point for it.concept should just be ignored for now because it requires mis-lynches.
UncertainKitten wrote:@Kdub: Best you're getting. I don't make tables and graphs of what responses are most likely and what responses make someone scum. I read the game questioning odd things until I get an intent read. That softclaim covered the intent I was looking for. It wasn't an answer I LIKED occurring, but it still would answer the matter of intent nicely.
@Vi: Clarify please. Was the statement Nacho quoted intended to shut down DISCUSSION of the bounties?
Hmm...so, last night I was thinking this but was too tired to really pursue it because I'd also wanna check against her ISO and such...
After sleeping on it, I feel a bit more resolved.
Unvote, Vote LadyLambdadelta
That cute little jump on Toast REEKS of opportunism. Further, there's a disproportionate effort spent defending the colored text. Not sure what to make of the bounty stuff but combined with everything else, I feel there's a chance it's a bit of IIoA to try to look pro town going with the mechanics talk. That would be my weakest thing on her.
Basically, I guess the intent read I'm getting is "I'm a good townie! Really, I am! You don't need to look over here and check, nosiree!"
I'm seeing Vi's Jahudo twitch in ISO.
The Seraphim wagon isn't BAD, but I feel like we're missing something with it. Some key questions should be asked at this point.
Seraphim, why do you feel comfortable about your vote? You haven't actually explained it thus far, and the rest of your contribution has been flavor spec. You're better than this, so what's holding you back?
Rhinox wrote:What I'm getting at is, Vi pointed out a single particular post (jahudo 51) that made her twitch. When I asked about what about that post was the problem, I'm pointed to jahudo's entire iso and a string of "posts that are trying to look Town/friendly more than anything else." by both you and vi, which doesn't explain what about post 51 is twitch inducing.
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Bandwagonning ho!Ladyµß wrote:Explain your reasons behind your votes on Toasty and Seraphim.
P.S. Claims of my Jackishness have been greatly exaggerated.
"Why me?"Seraphim wrote:Personal record obviously, fairly sure that other people have gotten lynched quicker.
Also, GreyICE,what about Toast, man? I'm sure you had like eighteen scumtells on him maaaaaan.
Rhinox wrote:really?Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Vote: Seraphim
Claim?
GreyICE wrote:Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Vote: Seraphim
Claim?
Seraphim wrote:My jokes are what I like to call "post-humor", as that rather than creating amusement for others, I am creating humor for myself.
Seraphim wrote:Start reading the game then.
Also, you seem to assume that I'm an idiot. Please don't make that assumption again.
Seraphim wrote: Logic has no place in a game of Mafia.
Seraphim wrote:I'm looking forward to shoveling out the bullshit you plan on dumping onto this game.
Seraphim wrote:I think my comment was directed towards:
It felt overly apologetic, like she wanted to dodge accusations of roleclaiming. It was unnecessary when I felt the point was put out just fine that she wasn't going to press the point. I'm not so sure about whether or not it's a scumtell but it definitely felt off to me at the time. It still feels off actually.UK wrote:My apologies for forcing that much out.
my vote was "random" before. However means it was an afterthought, a contrast with my previous statement. Somewhat means not all the way, but still stronger than a random vote. Actually means it has transitioned to a more serious vote. I don't see any waffling. Jahudo lines it up pretty nice.You actually feel somewhat more comfortable with your vote however?
Put an extra qualifier or two in there, I'm not sure it has enough conviction behind it.
I'm trying to decide whether or not it's worth hunting/lynching the bounty today.You're better than this, so what's holding you back?
Unvote
Vote: GreyICE
I smell rhetoric.
If this post contained more waffles Seraphim could open a diner.Then he backs off.I have a gut read of my own. You're scum. It's a good gut read. Flavor mechanics, IoA, setup speculation, and more waffles than Jahudo.
Also more rhetoric. Looks like baseless qualifiers for weak votes.Deciding to take my comment as a serious accusation rather than an offhand comment about the sentence? Overdefensive.
self-meta fail.I operate on gut reads and change my mind a lot?
Seraphim wrote:You're wasting your time. I'm not getting lynched today.
Seraphim wrote:I'm thinking if we pull a player more likely to scum on our bounty we should try to pursue it. For example, does anyone think that this cowboy guy is likely to be scum? I don't know anything about him to be honest.
Vi wrote:Oh mafiascum, always a surprise to come back to. <_<
CES, what's going on?
Seraphim wrote:toIf this post contained more waffles Seraphim could open a diner. Not liking him.
You use waffling as if it's scummy. Therefore, calling my statement waffling means that you believe my actions are scummy. All of a sudden, the comment becomes an "offhand statement". You're backpedalling, backtracking, what the fuck ever. I think it's backpedalling.Deciding to take my comment as a serious accusation rather than an offhand comment about the sentence?
Logic has no place in a game of Mafia.
Seraphim wrote:You were certainly more concerned with my role than my alignment when you made that vote.
Yes, it's a good idea. No, it's not good to vote someone just to push a claim.
Seraphim wrote:I operate on gut reads and change my mind a lot?You make me laugh.Logic is what I like to operate on.
Vi wrote:Yes, and the posts that have come afterward from both of them have done nothing to change my mind.Rhinox 106 wrote:You came to that conclusion from just one post?Rhinox - Antitown and Jahudo have mostly made posts that are trying to look Town/friendly more than anything else.
LLD 109 - Who is "we"? And if you're including yourself, why are you not voting with me?
Also, how do you take C∴S's accusation that you are a "bandwagoning ho"?
GreyICE's 105 is not the clear posting that was advertised, because I can barely tell what's being said. Seraphim is definitely correct about smelling rhetoric, because ICE looks like he's trying to build himself up to be this Big Deal that he's really not.
When did he do this?Jahudo 114 wrote:I find it strange that you[Toasty]townpoints to whoever has Andy's role just like that, because I don't think it has any alignment indication at all.
Seraphim 126 and 128 really don't look like they're coming from Town.
LLD 134 - Okay, your name for the rest of the game is "Bandwagoning Ho".
Everything after that - Waiting on C∴S.
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Seraphim and Bandwagoning Ho - What do you think of the wagons you have on youse?
LainICE - Thoughts on Toasty?
Vi wrote:There's a reason that asking for a claim after voting someone to L-1UncertainKitten wrote:EBWOP: To elaborate, what he's trying is to argue accepted claim practice is SOMEHOW rolefishing. Yeah. No.shouldn'tbe accepted claim practice.
U. vote count impending.
Cut by Bandwagoning Ho - Where is Nacho in this?
UncertainKitten wrote:I still want to find his reasoning on voting you, LLD.
Also, cute new avi, LLD.
All right, so Seraph is at L-3. I'll make that L-2
Vote Seraphim
Seraphim wrote:Alright, lemme cool down for a second. I probably am letting the "heat of the hunt" get to me a little bit.
LLD, humor me for a moment. You claim that you put me at L-1 "for [Seraphim's] posts talking about why GI was voting [Seraphim], and not Toasty!". Do you think this was a pressing reason to put me at L-1? If so, why are you freaking out so much about me voting you for making that vote? Also, better question, where's the Nacho hate? He put you at L-1 for apparently NO reason. Or rather, very little reasoning. For all your yelling about making cases, you seem to have quite a selective bend towards who you want to make cases on you.
BTW, a lot of your posts that you quoted as misreps were either A. not misreps or B. jokes. For instance, the logic one was purely for my own amusement and to elicit a reaction.
Seraphim wrote:Alright, lemme cool down for a second. I probably am letting the "heat of the hunt" get to me a little bit.
LLD, humor me for a moment. You claim that you put me at L-1 "for [Seraphim's] posts talking about why GI was voting [Seraphim], and not Toasty!". Do you think this was a pressing reason to put me at L-1? If so,why are you freaking out so much about me voting you for making that vote?Also, better question, where's the Nacho hate? He put you at L-1 for apparently NO reason. Or rather, very little reasoning. For all your yelling about making cases, you seem to have quite a selective bend towards who you want to make cases on you.
BTW, a lot of your posts that you quoted as misreps were either A. not misreps or B. jokes. For instance, the logic one was purely for my own amusement and to elicit a reaction.
why are you freaking out so much about me voting you for making that vote?
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Seraphim wrote:toIf this post contained more waffles Seraphim could open a diner. Not liking him.
You use waffling as if it's scummy. Therefore, calling my statement waffling means that you believe my actions are scummy. All of a sudden, the comment becomes an "offhand statement". You're backpedalling, backtracking, what the fuck ever. I think it's backpedalling.Deciding to take my comment as a serious accusation rather than an offhand comment about the sentence?
Logic has no place in a game of Mafia.
This is more misrep.
GreyICE clearly was not saying it was an offhand statement. He was saying you were taking it super seriously, and being over-defensive.
P-Edit: I do have a huge wagon on me. Much thanks to your vote, and 2 RVS votes (Antitown and UT). I have yet to see a case either.
ToastyToast wrote:@UK: I'm not voting GreyICE because I still think Seraphim can be scum. I unvoted Sera to avoid a quick-lynch. I suspect GreyICE too, but I am reasonably sure that if Seraphim is scum, then GreyICE is town.
My thoughts on LLD: the last few pages have been her defending from attacks that started when she put Seraphim on "L-1." Nacho did the same thing to her. If we're going to lynch her for that then we shouldn't let Nacho get away with it either.
UncertainKitten wrote:Hmm.
Seraphim wrote:Rhinox:why GreyICE over LLD?Just curious.
I could honestly fly for either one right now.
Seraphim wrote:LLD, you're an idiot. Scumhunting becomes rather difficult when every single post I make becomes another tumor on your convoluted "case". Thanks for clearing up any indecision I might have had concerning my vote on you. Tell me, how exactly does it make sense for me to jump off this hot wagon and switch back to another wagon which has one person on it? No, don't say "lol WIFOM" because that's dodging the question at hand.
You keep assuming that I'm stupid. Stop.
I am genuinely interested in what Rhinox has to say.
There is nothing I hate more than editing myself if you haven't already noticed.
Nachomamma8 wrote:LLD, why exactly didn't you attack me for my vote on you?
Nachomamma8 wrote:You noticed here, in your ISO #42. But you distinctly never demanded for me to present the case on you. You were too busy fighting with Seraphim... Is that the reason, perhaps?Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Vi wrote:There's a reason that asking for a claim after voting someone to L-1UncertainKitten wrote:EBWOP: To elaborate, what he's trying is to argue accepted claim practice is SOMEHOW rolefishing. Yeah. No.shouldn'tbe accepted claim practice.
U. vote count impending.
Cut by Bandwagoning Ho - Where is Nacho in this?
Nacho voted me? Sorry, I didn't notice that.
Uh.... I had a town read on Nacho... probably misguided town.
Seraphim wrote:I'm about to pound my head into a wall.
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I get the feeling everyone in this game is AmericanORCanadian but me.
Edited a terrible, horrible fusion of two seperate races of people. -Fate
Rhinox wrote:They both seem to be pushing bad cases and trying to make them out to be scummy when IMO they're not. But ICE seems more likely to be doing it from a scummy motivation.Seraphim wrote:Rhinox: why GreyICE over LLD? Just curious.
I could honestly fly for either one right now.
UncertainKitten wrote:@Rhinox: Why is the LLD wagon good? Did you ever explain this?technically, all I said was it was better than the seraph wagon >.>
I really didn't like her asking seraph to claim, and her claiming the exchange between seraph and grey made seraph look bad is backwards - IMO its the other way around. And then she threw out a couple wiki tell 1-line accusations - OMGUS, nice ATE - which by the way, the post she called ATE is not even close to being ATE. And then she decides to build a case after she voted and all, which came across as artificial.And I don't think I've ever seen this case yet, either.
GREYICE LOOK HERE NAO!Grey just curious how you came up with that thar scumlist, particularlyjahudo as town after earlier you called him a good wagon, and UT showing up as town, where as earlier he was null. For that matter, you voted me, and now I'm town. And only 1 scum and 1 scummy. You think the rest of the scum are in the lurker list?
UncertainKitten wrote:@Vi: I'll admit the latest barrage of questions felt careless. As in "attempting to look proactively pro town real quick here", but kinda missing the fact things had been answered. Sorta like he was trying to pump up his vitals with the serum stuff in Trauma center, but somehow missed. Except in this case his vitals were his townness. I still like Sera scum better, but GI is not outside the realm of possibility.
@Rhinox: You have a couple good points, but I have to disagree with the claim point, because that seemed fairly routine. The AtE accusation was bad, as was OMGUS, but, to be honest, Seraphim wasn't that great so I'm willing to overlook those. Finally, as for case after vote, I've done that pretty often regardless of alignment. Sometimes you want reactions. Sometimes you think it is so bleeding obvious someone is scum, that you feel no need to spell it out. Sometimes you just plain forget to tell people what you're thinking.
@LLD: Have you posted a concise collection of your points on Seraphim? IIRC I asked for one of those from both of you, and I haven't noticed either really delivering.
UncertainKitten wrote:I don't need a wall. I need five sentences or less detailing your strongest points against Seraphim. You needn't include everything unless I ask for it.
Seraphim wrote:I'm about to pound my head into a wall.