Obvious Scum for Obvious Reasons. (It's capitalized so you know it's serious stuff)
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This goes for everyone.Yosarian2 wrote:
If you're town, then you need to start figuring out who your suspects are, trying to put pressure on them, and trying to scumhunt in general. Re-read the game, re-read people in isolation, make educated guesses.Slaine Hayes wrote: @Yosarian: If I thought someone was scummy, I'd be voting for them. If I think someone is town, you'll be the first to know.
If you're scum, then feel free to continue not doing anything, and I'll just keep voting you.
A lot of people in this game seem to be saying "I don't have an opinion, so I'm going to sit around and wait for one to fall from the sky"-
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A better example would be someone placing a hammer vote but purposely formatting it so that it does not count. (Not unvoting, not properly bolded, etc)JoshTheStampede wrote:Ok, I guess that's how it works here. I play on other sites where trying to use powers you don't actually have is considered actual cheating and earns you a modkill or a warning. I'm not the only person in the thread who said it was unethical, so it's not just me. It never even occured to me that that was something you could do in a game of Mafia. To me it's like placing a vote that hammers someone just to see their twilight reaction, and then saying "Oh, wait, I was kidding that wasn't a real vote"
If it's a legal tactic here then ok, I'll have to remember that in the future. I still don't like it and everything I said about it stands. When someone says "kill: josh" in bold letters in some other game, I will assume he's lying until a mod tells me otherwise. I don't like that the rules force me to do that, but whatever.
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Spyrex is scum because he's been constantly hounding Josh for very weak reasons.
At first I thought he was simply doing it to see who would try to go for it and generally get a feel for everyone based on how they react, but it seems he's really trying for a lynch.
Ooba is town because I say he is.
Josh is VI because he's constantly pulling newbie mistakes.
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Cry me a river cupcake, what I'm doing isn't scummy. And if you actually paid attention you would have noticed that I have contributed to this game several times, you're just apparently too dense to understand anything without several paragraphs explaining it.MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Really? I thought it was more clearly anti-town / scummy.Darox wrote: Active lurking is fun.
Unvote, Vote: Darox.The casual manner in which you ignore actually contributing until you get a vote makes me slightly angry, and I don’t think I’m the only one. Active lurking is not Pro-town. Giving the reason that a player is Town is ‘cause I say so’ is also not Pro-town.
When you can provide reasons for why I'm scum other than 'The Mafia Rules That Everyone Must Follow Or You Will Be Lynched By The Mindless' I'll start taking you seriously.
I don't think Ooba is scum, I said he was town, and I said that because that was the general feel I got from his posts at that time.Zang wrote:
I disagree, Darox is the worst of the active lurkers. He still hadn't said why he thinks you (Ooba) are scum.Ooba wrote:easjo
- Easily the worst amongst the lurkers
- Active lurking: Has time to answer what a kiwi is, but not the questions posed to him on his previous analysis
- Hasn't taken a stance (Disregarding the previous post)
I do agree with magna. I think he is confessing to active lurking as a joke in order to dismiss the fact that he is active lurking.
But you should already know that if you were actually reading the game.
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And I've already explained in minute detail so that even you couldn't be confused about why I called Ooba town, and thus you wouldn't need to post this useless note.Zang wrote:
I meant townI don't think Ooba is scum, I said he was town, and I said that because that was the general feel I got from his posts at that time.
But you should already know that if you were actually reading the game.
Do I have to spell everything out for you?
But you should already know that if you were actually reading the game.-
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This is a huge pile of bullshit. Your "minute detail" was literally "Ooba is town because I say he is".Darox wrote:
And I've already explained in minute detail so that even you couldn't be confused about why I called Ooba town, and thus you wouldn't need to post this useless note.
But you should already know that if you were actually reading the game.
But you should already know that if you were actually reading the game.Awesome Dude wrote:I said he was town, and I said that because that was the general feel I got from his posts at that time.-
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Is that all I have Josh?
One post where I say Spyrex is Scum and Ooba is town(And that you're an idiot)for totally random reasons?(Totally random you guys)
But since you got all upset and complainy about how useless I am, let's be vindictive.
JOSHS AMAZING CONTRIBUTIONS TO SCUMHUNTING: THE MOVIE: THE GAME: THE LIST:
#1: Darox, scum for being third on the wagon.(Snicker)
#2: Spyrex, scum for admitting rolefishing.(Further Snickers)
Let's just pretend his embarassing discussion about how votes with 0 threat of lynch behind them create pressure didn't exist, for the sake of Joshs credibility, shall we?
#3:
Actually let's pretend his discussion about roleclaiming doesn't exist on this list either.
#3: Spyrex isn't scum, just crazy, Cruelty is scum for agreeing with Spyrexs crazy case.
This entire Spyrex-Josh argument is painful to read.
#4: Ooba is lynchworthy because he pulled an 'unethical' fakevig gambit.(Oh wow)
#5: Spyrex is now scum for making an error, fixing it, but not changing his opinion.(Note that the error in question doesn't invalidate Spyrex's point and it infact worked either way)
#6: Spyrex is scum for trying to push through a mislynch on someone who is going make it easy.(Notice I actually pushed this theory much earlier)
#7: TheSkeward is scum for doing nothing but call for a Josh lynch.
Boy there sure are some real eye openers here.
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This is the last time CryMeARiver posted.CryMeARiver @ Tue Apr 13, 2010 wrote:
Ok, keep this in mind.Slaine Hayes wrote:Unvote
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Why were you fishing?
Josh is attacked for the same reason, at one point by Slaine. Hypocritical contradiction much? Also, he now does not believe Spyrex was rolefishing.Slaine Hayes wrote:
Upon further review, I see where you explained yourself. i apologize, I missed that before.
But I'll keep my FoS on, like you,I don't really feel the need to move my votes or FoS's unless I have good reason to.
Alleged rolefishing? I thought you just stated that you didn't think he was rolefishing? Now you are looking for someone else to supply reasons to wagon another person.Ok, I will ATTEMPT to get some logical discussion going here.
@Josh: If it turns out SpyreX is scum, what would you think of his alleged rolefishing then?
In other words "Josh did not supply me with a reason to attack Spyrex for his rolefishing". Also, what happened to "I don't feel the need to move my votes without a reason to"?Slaine Hayes wrote:I'm still so confused over the whole SpyreX situation.
Unvote
MORE IS TO COME! I don't have time for the rest
He has since posted frequently in other games.
What's the deal CMAR?
Do you have any opinions on the wagon? Or are you just going to idly watch it roll by?Zang wrote:I believe you just put him at L-1.-
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Last Votecount @ 311ElectricBadger wrote:Nobody Special replaces Slaine Hayes - thank you NS! Deadline has been extended by a couple days to allow him to catch up as well.
Vote Count:
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
(1) Darox: Zang
(5) JoshTheStampede: easjo682, TheSkeward, cruelty, MagnaofIllusion, SpyreX
(3) Nobody SpecialSlaine Hayes: CryMeARiver, Yosarian2, Ooba
(2) SpyreX: Darox, JoshTheStampede
(1) Not Voting: Nobody Special
Day One ends by April 20th at toll of midnight PST.
Day One ends by April 22nd at toll of midnight PST.
An early moon rises, too large to be natural.
Puts Josh at 4 votes @ 315MagnaofIllusion wrote:Unvote, Vote: Darox.
Puts Josh at 5 votes @ 337Nobody Special wrote:Vote: Josh
Puts Josh at 6 votes @ 343JoshTheStampede wrote:unvote vote JoshTheStampede
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Que?Nobody Special wrote:I also have some suspicions about Darox (admitted active lurking, distancing from Josh), but for now
The active lurking thing was an obvious joke, and distancing from Josh wouldn't make any sense given he was a traitor and one of the things about traitors is they typically don't know who the rest of mafia is and the mafia don't know who they are.
That's not a very good reason for not saying anything at all for several days.CryMeARiver wrote:He was replaced. Providing more would be kind of ridiculous since it'd be hard for him to respond.-
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Voting CMAR so hard right now.
'No, nothing to do with miller. Also, I'm pretty sure one doesn't know that they are a miller, only regular.'
'I'd like to clear up that what I said has absolutely nothing to do with my role. Explanation later.'
If it's got nothing to do with your role, then it's speculation on the setup.
And if it's speculation on the setup, then why the hell did you imply you had such in depth knowledge.-
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Pretty sure I never said that.Darox wrote:So basically you've got nothing and your whole "I know something you don't know, I'll explain later"was a waste of time.
Where's that case on your suspect you promised?
I have a lot on my plate. It'll come.
I'm pretty sure you did.CryMeARiver wrote:I have reason to believe the bolded is true.-
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You managed to misinterpret this and then interpret it properly and complain about it from both sides. Why?SpyreX wrote:
Are you saying that I agree CMAR is town? Because that's sure not the case - I said he's wrong about that."NO U
Also, I agree this person that I am voting is town just being stupid."
If you think that's a town post, I am in favor of lynching everyone you think is town.
Are you saying he's voting CMAR? Because that also isn't the case.
So basically you're saying NS is town because when given the decision to setting himself on fire or do nothing, he chose to do nothing?SpyreX wrote:
?Because they think they can get away with dismissing the case by ignoring it rather than doing a really overblown and obvious scummove..
He voted before this whole push that way.
His unvote was because CMAR promised content (which hasn't been delivered).
That isn't some kinda "TRAP SPRUNG" move back regardless of alignment.
And, when pressure is on as scum - saying the other suspect is town?-
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You managed to misinterpret this and then interpret it properly and complain about it from both sides. Why?SpyreX wrote:
Are you saying that I agree CMAR is town? Because that's sure not the case - I said he's wrong about that."NO U
Also, I agree this person that I am voting is town just being stupid."
If you think that's a town post, I am in favor of lynching everyone you think is town.
Are you saying he's voting CMAR? Because that also isn't the case.
So basically you're saying NS is town because when given the decision to setting himself on fire or do nothing, he chose to do nothing?SpyreX wrote:
?Because they think they can get away with dismissing the case by ignoring it rather than doing a really overblown and obvious scummove..
He voted before this whole push that way.
His unvote was because CMAR promised content (which hasn't been delivered).
That isn't some kinda "TRAP SPRUNG" move back regardless of alignment.
And, when pressure is on as scum - saying the other suspect is town?-
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How is it an escape route if it's such an obvious scum move?
Also it's pretty obvious that everything in the quotations is a parody of NS's post. And the not voting doesn't make it wrong because NS only unvoted because he was parroting me and giving CMAR space for his analysis and his last posted stance on CMAR prior to this was "Yes, CMAR, I suspect you are total scum. Hence, my vote. "
Also Zang, did you actually read through NS's posts or did you just look at Skewards post and say "hur he hasn't filled in all the blanks for me"?-
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This isn't a dichotomy.SpyreX wrote:If you're scum and getting caught and have expressed constant disdain (but, at this moment in time are unvoting to see if they actually deliver what they've promised) and they clamor on you moving your vote BACK to where it is declaring the only other avenue of votes as town isn't a good way to stay alive versus going "well, they've delivered no content, vote"
I'm still baffled at this whole discussion from a root level. CMAR hasn't DONE anything and that wall of text still is: lurker, voted for me, voted for me, voted for me.
And then all of a sudden everyone went welp and now nothingness.
Also CMAR, your case doesn't really have weight because it doesn't show any behaviour with obvious scum motivation and it doesn't explain why said behaviour is suspicious.-
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Actually, provided he is making sense and giving reasons (He is) I don't think it matters a damn who he is or his reputation.MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Do you honestly believe that your case is so overwhelming that people should just blindly follow? Posts like this tend to work for players with a strong personality and established rep. Neither of which I think you have.TheSkeward wrote:Hey cruelty. CMAR lynch isn't happening today. NS is where it's at. Switch?
In other news, hopefully VV will have time to get fully up to date, but if not, a deadline extension would be appreciated.-
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?TheSkeward wrote:1) Nobody Special actually wasn't voting CMAR. Part of the reason I find NS scum is his opportunism, but discovering that it goes as far as comments and not as far as votes makes him less scummy.Nobody Special #425 wrote:unvote
Vote: CMARNobody Special #432 wrote:Yes, CMAR, I suspect you are total scum. Hence, my vote.Nobody Special #448 wrote:
CMAR has intimated that his ISO is on Slaine. I can't recall anything that contradicts that.Darox wrote:Unvote
Some things need to be addressed before anyone dies today.
Cry needs to stop stalling and post his touted ISO. He hasn't even said who it's on.
Cruelty needs to stop being scum.
You are either THE slowest mafia player in all of recorded history, or you're lying through your teeth.CryMeARiver wrote:
Thank ya kindly. ISO is almost done, have had a few things back here in reality to deal with.Darox wrote:Unvote
Some things need to be addressed before anyone dies today.
Cry needs to stop stalling and post his touted ISO. He hasn't even said who it's on.
Cruelty needs to stop being scum.
I'm waiting, but this better be damned good. Also, ooba brought up some good points that I want to look into.
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He did vote CMAR though.Nobody Special #491 wrote:
You call this aTheSkeward wrote:
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Doesn't like Darox's nameclaim.
"Very skeptical of Josh". No given reason. At this point Josh is obv the D1 lynch.
Says SpryeX is "less jovial, less outspoken" than usual.
Is way, way too ready to lynch Josh, for "purposely misinterpreting things" - his example is the slippery slope debate. Concludes with "Please, get lynched. Vote: Josh. Still on Page 7. Still reading. Still happy with a Josh lynch."
When SpryeX (not harshly at all, complete with a wink smiley face) responds to his comments, he says "Just observing, sheesh. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Have NONE of you on this whole fucking board EVER heard of '"hyperbole?'"
D2, he votes a lurker. Laughably, he also says "I also have some suspicions about Darox (admitted active lurking, distancing from Josh)"
When Darox pressures CMAR, he says to CMAR, "So, what you'rereallysaying is that your target ceased to be a target, and, for whatever reason, you declined to even look for another target. Gotcha."
In essence: he seems to think everyone is scum. As soon as anyone is under any kind of pressure at all, he jumps onto them as though he's always been there. Furthermore, whenever he perceives any kind of pressure on himself (above, in the response to Darox, and also in the back-and-forths with CMAR), he responds with venomous ad-hom.
I'm definitely happy with a CMAR lynch. I'm fairly sure one is scum, and it's possible both are scum, and I don't see the other contributing positively to the game anyway. But I think NS is more likely to be scum, and CMAR's more likely to be just stupid.case?
I don't think everyone is scum. Far from it.
I have made cases on each person I've voted for; I'm very sorry if those cases aren't meeting your standards.
I do agree, though, that CMAR is just being VI.
This is why I said although you were technically wrong about NS voting CMAR when he called Cry a VI, you were still in a sense correct because of the way in which he unvoted and his "Total Scum" post.-
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I don't get this.VasudeVa wrote:NS Scum seems to lead to Spyrex and/or Darox scum.
I personally want the NS lynch today because there are some major connections between him and Spyrex/Darox.
You shouldn't do that, that's bad.VasudeVa wrote:I seem to have replaced into a extreme lurker spot. If my town reads ever found my predecessor's lurkiness malicious, feel free to ask. I think I can explain why she lurked like a mofo but I don't think I should yet.-
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You mean his waffly argument about how Slaine/NS never picked a side and was lazy?
The entire thing bored me to tears and never provided a sharp point. It was and still is a bad argument.
When Skeward posted his case, that got me to sit up and look through NS's posts and confirm that everything was as Skeward said.
Which is why I am voting for NS right now and am infact the first on the list of people who are doing so.
But no, you're right, I'm defending NS with all my might because he's so precious to me.-
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Vs.TheSkeward wrote:In essence: he seems to think everyone is scum. As soon as anyone is under any kind of pressure at all, he jumps onto them as though he's always been there. Furthermore, whenever he perceives any kind of pressure on himself (above, in the response to Darox, and also in the back-and-forths with CMAR), he responds with venomous ad-hom.
He only very briefly gets close to what Skeward is talking about in the last quote, and manages to drop the ball in pushing home the one real point.CryMeARiver (Summarized by me) wrote:Slaine Hayes has done nothing and said nothing. No opinions, no scumhunting.(Attacks Slaine for something he didn't actually do in the process. Does it again slightly later.)
NS(Starts with a brilliant statement where he twists a neutral statement and portrays it as a negative one)doesn't give a huge bold type quote list of reasons why he feels Josh is scummy. Cry is too stupid to work them out for himself and feels upset by this.
Targeting the lurker.
Being lazy and letting others scumhunt for him.
Not providing reasons for votes.
Bandwagoning.
If you think TheSkeward and CMAR posted identical cases you're beyond help.
On the plus side, making me reread and analyze CMAR's case has bumped him up a few rungs in the scum ladder.-
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TOTALLY RANDOM YOU GUYS.MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Given you have not mentioned Sprex once today I feel the need to ask – is he still scum in your eyes? Or was, as you put it at ISO 26 “totally random you guys”. If so why were you random voting well out of RVS?Darox wrote:Spyrex is scum, Ooba is town, Josh is VI.
I don't know. Cruelty, have you stopped being scum like I told you?MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Is cruelty still scum? Beyond NS (and I still assume CMAR) who do you find most suspicious?Darox wrote:Cruelty needs to stop being scum.
Thanks Captain Obvious! No one has mentioned this before!MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Does the explanation have nothing to do with in-game but rely solely on easjo meta? Because otherwise the only other explanation you could offer is role-based. Given you specifically pointed out soft-claim / claim requests as something you didn’t like out of CMAR, myself, ooba I really would like to know if you are inviting requests for some variety of claim yourself. That would seem to be inconsistent. Note that I want nothing of a claim from you just information as to were your explanation comes from.VasudeVa wrote:I seem to have replaced into a extreme lurker spot. If my town reads ever found my predecessor's lurkiness malicious, feel free to ask. I think I can explain why she lurked like a mofo but I don't think I should yet.-
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I don't think you know what that phrase means.CryMeARiver wrote:Yeah, I'm staring to get theRed Herringfeeling...
I also don't think either of you are really paying attention to what I am saying or have said, and are instead getting all whiny and upset and hurt because I'm not playing the way you think everyone should play.-
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#1: SpyrexMagnaofIllusion wrote:Waaaaaaaaah
Posts where I talk about him being scummy. #1 #2 #3 #4
So with that we've established that my vote was not random, and that my 'Totally random you guys' was an obvious joke poking fun at the stupid people who can only read what they want to see and not whats in front of them.
Then, I unvote Spyrex here. I don't vote him or attack him for the rest of the day.
Now, if you're a super psychic genius, you might be able to infer from this that I no longer felt Spyrex was acting scummy enough to warrant mention. For those of you who are not super psychic geniuses, I no longer felt Spyrex was acting scummy enough to warrant mention, hence the unvote and lack of further attacks.
#2: Cruelty
Posts where I personally mention Cruelty. #1 #2
Note that number one has some super difficult and complex analysis behind it and you may want to read it slowly to prevent your brain from melting.
As shown earlier, I expressed some minor suspicions of Spyrex and how I felt his attacks on Josh were disingenuous. I then asked Spyrex what he thought of Cruelties contributions to the Josh wagon. Using voodoo magic and wizardry, we can infer from this that I felt cruelties contributions were suspicious or lackluster.
Number two is the post you whined about.
From these two posts, we can tell that I have some very minor suspicions of cruelty, but have not felt they were enough to outrank my major suspicions of at those times.
As for "Who do you find most suspicious besides NS and CMAR", this is a bad question because A: I'm never going to lynch them over my main suspects until something changes and B: They can easily change within as much as one post.
#3: Yelling to the world about how VV has implied a softclaim.
If you noticed, here, I told VV that his softclaim was bad without ever pointing to the fact with a giant neon sign. Unlike you.-
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