Mini 948 - Victorian Vampire - Game Over

[ooba]

Well I'm not entirely sold on Josh, but I think he's our best bet for being scum right now and it also might get the game moving.

Kill : JoshTheStampede

Josh if you have something to say, do it now, not allowed to post after you're dead. This also means I'm dead. Hope it was worth it.

[Zang]

Oh shit,

Vote:Ooba

will post something relevant later

[Darox]

Wait, you're a suicide vig?

[Darox]

Also, Zang, what Ooba just did wasn't scummy, especially not if he's a suicide vig.

[Zang]

I didn't connect that to him being a suicide vig. In that case

Unvote

[ElectricBadger]

Vote Count:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

(1) Ooba: Darox
(3) CryMeARiver: MagnaofIllusion, Yosarian2, Ooba
(4) JoshTheStampede: easjo682, TheSkeward, SpyreX, cruelty
(1) Slaine Hayes: CryMeARiver
(1) cruelty: JoshTheStampede

(2) Not Voting:Zang, Slaine Hayes

Day One ends by April 20th at toll of midnight PST.

Moments later, Mama Amica's corpse arose from her bier, shrieking at the mourners; then plunged among them, murderous and thirsty for blood. The funeral became a slaughter until, at last, she was torn limb from limb and hurled into the flames.

[Zang]

Not a vig

Vote: Ooba

[ooba]

Well, now that its apparent that I'm not a suicide vig .. (Ideally would loved Josh to have responded) .. Barring that

Oh shit,

Vote:Ooba

will post something relevant later

Would you mind clarifying the bolded reaction to my post?

[Zang]

I was suprised that you were a vig and that you killed Josh.

[SpyreX]

Blahhhh

If Jack wasn't still alive I'd be voting for Ooba at the mo. I hate that "gambit" soo much.

Zang: Your reaction to someone claiming a dayvig is voting them?

[Zang]

Well he didn't just claim, he used his power. And I unvoted when I saw that he might be a suicide day vig. And I also hate that gambit, I see no real point in it.

[SpyreX]

Its smoke and mirrors. I wouldn't cry we shifted that way for sure.

[JoshTheStampede]

Just to be clear, using bolded "game code" to pretend to use powers you don't have is about the most unethical thing you can do in a game of Mafia without straight-up cheating.

I wasn't at home during the period so nothing came of it, but that's still a really shitty thing to do.

unvote

vote:ooba

[SpyreX]

"All scummy things are directly related to me" - Josh

Of course, who am I to stand in the way of a bus. Only problem is that everything in this tryst points to Josh being a more valuable scum-PR.

Unvote, Vote: Ooba

[MagnaofIllusion]

Prod received ... tax season is coming to an end and I've been working too long hours this last week.

Post with content coming Sunday in the afternoon. Till then sleep.

[JoshTheStampede]

"All scummy things are directly related to me" - Josh

Nothing I said was remotely close to this, what the hell are you talking about?

[SpyreX]

You haven't said it but ohh you've said it.

Who are your suspects?

[Yosarian2]

I'm not really happy with the way this game is going right now. It dosn't feel like we're moving in a productive direction, and I don't think most people in the game are really scumhunting.

I'm really not feeling the Josh wagon, but I also aren't really suspicous of the main people driving it. So, I'm going to try to go in a different direction.

Vote:Slaine Hayes

We really need to hear more from you. Who do you think is town? Who do you think is scum?

[ooba]

Oh shit,

Vote:Ooba

will post something relevant later

Would you mind clarifying the bolded reaction to my post?

I was suprised that you were a vig and that you killed Josh.

Well this reason doesn't gel with your next post where you claim you never even connected me with a suicide vig

I didn't connect that to him being a suicide vig. In that case

Unvote

If you actually thought I had killed Josh, your reaction should have been of curiosity to see what Josh turns up as. The very fact that you said "Oh shit" and proceeded to vote me gives me the impression that you already knew his town alignment.

Vote: Zang

Just to be clear, using bolded "game code" to pretend to use powers you don't have is about the most unethical thing you can do in a game of Mafia without straight-up cheating.

Don't want to get into an argument here and sidetrack the game, but calling it unethical is ridiculous. Best discussed in the MD forum later.

"All scummy things are directly related to me" - Josh

Of course, who am I to stand in the way of a bus. Only problem is that everything in this tryst points to Josh being a more valuable scum-PR.

Unvote, Vote: Ooba

"Hey this is just me hopping onto a growing wagon. I'm also trying to link a completely unrelated player to my scumbuddy (on whom I made a weak case and gave the appearance of attacking)"

FOS: SpyreX

[cruelty]

If you actually thought I had killed Josh, your reaction should have been of curiosity to see what Josh turns up as. The very fact that you said "Oh shit" and proceeded to vote me

gives me the impression that you already knew his town alignment.

This is a stretch (at best).


Having said that I see the contradiction you're pointing to and acknowledge it, I just can't find it in my heart to vote for Zang. This sort of thing is typical of him; he's a classic VI.


I've never seen that gambit before but not a fan, seems unethical. -1 cool point m'man.

Of course, who am I to stand in the way of a bus. Only problem is that everything in this tryst points to Josh being a more valuable scum-PR.

You're implying that the kill gambit was in fact a smokescreen for the real gambit; pulling the heat off Josh? (That's rhetorical, I know the answer, this is more for future reference).

Prod received ... tax season is coming to an end and I've been working too long hours this last week.

Post with content coming Sunday in the afternoon. Till then sleep.

Noted. Sunday afternoon.


@Y2; is your vote solely because of his lack of contribution?

[Zang]

Oh shit,

Vote:Ooba

will post something relevant later

Would you mind clarifying the bolded reaction to my post?

I was suprised that you were a vig and that you killed Josh.

Well this reason doesn't gel with your next post where you claim you never even connected me with a suicide vig

I didn't connect that to him being a suicide vig. In that case

Unvote

If you actually thought I had killed Josh, your reaction should have been of curiosity to see what Josh turns up as. The very fact that you said "Oh shit" and proceeded to vote me gives me the impression that you already knew his town alignment.

Vote: Zang

Just to be clear, using bolded "game code" to pretend to use powers you don't have is about the most unethical thing you can do in a game of Mafia without straight-up cheating.

Don't want to get into an argument here and sidetrack the game, but calling it unethical is ridiculous. Best discussed in the MD forum later.

"All scummy things are directly related to me" - Josh

Of course, who am I to stand in the way of a bus. Only problem is that everything in this tryst points to Josh being a more valuable scum-PR.

Unvote, Vote: Ooba

"Hey this is just me hopping onto a growing wagon. I'm also trying to link a completely unrelated player to my scumbuddy (on whom I made a weak case and gave the appearance of attacking)"

FOS: SpyreX

I did know that you were a vig but I didn't know you were a suicide vig. And me saying "Oh shit" was meant to be like "oh shit, wow. I didn't expect ooba to be a vig," I didn't write that much because I had little time.

[JoshTheStampede]

Oh shit,

Vote:Ooba

will post something relevant later

Would you mind clarifying the bolded reaction to my post?

I was suprised that you were a vig and that you killed Josh.

Well this reason doesn't gel with your next post where you claim you never even connected me with a suicide vig

I didn't connect that to him being a suicide vig. In that case

Unvote

If you actually thought I had killed Josh, your reaction should have been of curiosity to see what Josh turns up as. The very fact that you said "Oh shit" and proceeded to vote me gives me the impression that you already knew his town alignment.

Vote: Zang

Just to be clear, using bolded "game code" to pretend to use powers you don't have is about the most unethical thing you can do in a game of Mafia without straight-up cheating.

Don't want to get into an argument here and sidetrack the game, but calling it unethical is ridiculous. Best discussed in the MD forum later.

"All scummy things are directly related to me" - Josh

Of course, who am I to stand in the way of a bus. Only problem is that everything in this tryst points to Josh being a more valuable scum-PR.

Unvote, Vote: Ooba

"Hey this is just me hopping onto a growing wagon. I'm also trying to link a completely unrelated player to my scumbuddy (on whom I made a weak case and gave the appearance of attacking)"

FOS: SpyreX

I did know that you were a vig but I didn't know you were a suicide vig. And me saying "Oh shit" was meant to be like "oh shit, wow. I didn't expect ooba to be a vig," I didn't write that much because I had little time.

If you actually thought he was a vig, and believed him, then why would you vote him? Vigs are almost always town.

[JoshTheStampede]

Don't want to get into an argument here and sidetrack the game, but calling it unethical is ridiculous. Best discussed in the MD forum later.

Nice try to push discussion of this off for weeks, but it's not a stretch at all. It's unethical because Mafia is a game of deception and lies, but certain truths and rules exist and players trust in them to make the game work.

Such truths include "The mod will not outright lie to you" and "Votes and game-mechanical actions are real". It wouldn't have been unethical at all to simply claim vig and tell me you were going to kill me unless X. But you didnt do that. Instead you used the "game code" that we all trust as players, to try to get a reaction from someone that you would have been unable to get while actually following the rules.

Would you think it was ok if someone dropped a hammer vote and then said "Oh, wait, I was kidding, I just wanted to see how you would react when hammered"

[Zang]

Oh shit,

Vote:Ooba

will post something relevant later

Would you mind clarifying the bolded reaction to my post?

I was suprised that you were a vig and that you killed Josh.

Well this reason doesn't gel with your next post where you claim you never even connected me with a suicide vig

I didn't connect that to him being a suicide vig. In that case

Unvote

If you actually thought I had killed Josh, your reaction should have been of curiosity to see what Josh turns up as. The very fact that you said "Oh shit" and proceeded to vote me gives me the impression that you already knew his town alignment.

Vote: Zang

Just to be clear, using bolded "game code" to pretend to use powers you don't have is about the most unethical thing you can do in a game of Mafia without straight-up cheating.

Don't want to get into an argument here and sidetrack the game, but calling it unethical is ridiculous. Best discussed in the MD forum later.

"All scummy things are directly related to me" - Josh

Of course, who am I to stand in the way of a bus. Only problem is that everything in this tryst points to Josh being a more valuable scum-PR.

Unvote, Vote: Ooba

"Hey this is just me hopping onto a growing wagon. I'm also trying to link a completely unrelated player to my scumbuddy (on whom I made a weak case and gave the appearance of attacking)"

FOS: SpyreX

I did know that you were a vig but I didn't know you were a suicide vig. And me saying "Oh shit" was meant to be like "oh shit, wow. I didn't expect ooba to be a vig," I didn't write that much because I had little time.

If you actually thought he was a vig, and believed him, then why would you vote him? Vigs are almost always town.

My vote was more of a pressure vote and not because I thought he was scum. I wanted to know why he killed you. I never understood this gambit because if I was a day vig, I would wait until I was sure a person was mafia but ooba even said this-

Well I'm not entirely sold on Josh

[SpyreX]

You're implying that the kill gambit was in fact a smokescreen for the real gambit; pulling the heat off Josh? (That's rhetorical, I know the answer, this is more for future reference).

Rhetorical or not, yea thats how this reads. Especially with *shock* the baby derail into ethics now.