Mini 948 - Victorian Vampire - Game Over

[Darox]

Well, there are a bunch of variations, the Traitor isn't that well defined as a standard role.

Either they don't know each other at all, or one of them knows the other but not vis versa.

It really depends on the mod.

[cruelty]

the f is a weak vigi?



i also thought traitors were a one-way relationship, but eh, not gonna get carried away with that.

i guess the interesting thing about the traitor flip is that it doesn't give us anything to work with re: the wagon, because if it was a one-way relationship then there's a 50% chance scum thought they were lynching town. imo this was the worst possible role reveal because we don't really have anything concrete to work with.

having said that,

vote: magna

[Zang]

I thought a traitor didn't know the mafia but if he was night killed by the mafia then he could join the mafia.

[MagnaofIllusion]

My read is still on Slaine Hayes. I placed a small case forward on him, then he replaced out. I still think that spot is scummy.

He was replaced. Providing more would be kind of ridiculous since it'd be hard for him to respond.

So you find the slot scummy but don’t have anything from NS’s play that supports this continued assertion? Are you just going to look at only that slot or do you think you might actually start scum-hunting today?

If people are serious about making some conclusions about the Josh wagon the fact that Josh was an “Isolated Traitor” instead of just “Traitor” might be a good place to start when deciding who might or might not have known indentities.

Actually, I didn't see anything particulary scummy about Josh. Sadly I was mistaken

I just want to be clear … the only reason you voted for Josh was his self-vote?

Given we have at least one Miller in the game it’s certain some sort of cop is involved. Also given what I’ve seen regarding Vig variants in the past I suspect Yos wasn’t the only Miller / Weak Vig out there.

@easjo – Let’s hear something from you.

I’ll be V/LA starting at 4pm EDT today until Friday morning the 30th for a Cruise, so if there is anything you want to hear from me I have until 4pm to respond.

[ElectricBadger]

Vote Count:

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

(1) Nobody Special: TheSkeward
(1) CryMeARiver: Darox
(1) Easjo: Nobody Special
(1) MagnaofIllusion: cruelty

(6) Not Voting: easjo682, Zang, SpyreX, CryMeARiver, MagnaofIllusion, Ooba

Day One ends by May 13th at the toll of midnight PST.

In the weak light of morning, over the blood of their fallen comrade, the villagers began to eye each other with suspicion.

[CryMeARiver]

My read is still on Slaine Hayes. I placed a small case forward on him, then he replaced out. I still think that spot is scummy.

He was replaced. Providing more would be kind of ridiculous since it'd be hard for him to respond.

So you find the slot scummy but don’t have anything from NS’s play that supports this continued assertion? Are you just going to look at only that slot or do you think you might actually start scum-hunting today?

If people are serious about making some conclusions about the Josh wagon the fact that Josh was an “Isolated Traitor” instead of just “Traitor” might be a good place to start when deciding who might or might not have known indentities.

Actually, I didn't see anything particulary scummy about Josh. Sadly I was mistaken

I just want to be clear … the only reason you voted for Josh was his self-vote?

Given we have at least one Miller in the game it’s certain some sort of cop is involved.

Also given what I’ve seen regarding Vig variants in the past I suspect Yos wasn’t the only Miller / Weak Vig out there.

@easjo – Let’s hear something from you.

I’ll be V/LA starting at 4pm EDT today until Friday morning the 30th for a Cruise, so if there is anything you want to hear from me I have until 4pm to respond.

I have reason to believe the bolded is true.
Yes, I have not given this game as much respect as I should have. Case on my suspect coming up soon.

[TheSkeward]

crulety, why the vote on magna?

[ooba]

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Given we have at least one Miller in the game it’s certain some sort of cop is involved.

Also given what I’ve seen regarding Vig variants in the past I suspect Yos wasn’t the only Miller / Weak Vig out there.

@easjo – Let’s hear something from you.

...

I have reason to believe the bolded is true.

Setting it up now so that you can claim miller later?

[CryMeARiver]

...
Given we have at least one Miller in the game it’s certain some sort of cop is involved.

Also given what I’ve seen regarding Vig variants in the past I suspect Yos wasn’t the only Miller / Weak Vig out there.

@easjo – Let’s hear something from you.

...

I have reason to believe the bolded is true.

Setting it up now so that you can claim miller later?

No, nothing to do with miller. Also, I'm pretty sure one doesn't know that they are a miller, only regular.

[Zang]

I just want to be clear … the only reason you voted for Josh was his self-vote?

pretty much, Previously though I didn't see Josh scummy but I wasn't sure he was town either. If I did think he was town I probably wouldn't have hammered.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Offical Note - I'll be V/LA until April 30th.

[SpyreX]

Hahaha

Unvote, Vote: CMAR

Did a quick rundown on Josh's ISO.

Guess who is never mentioned?

Not once. Quoted once that I saw, but never talked about.

(That said if I'm right about this I'd put heavy money on Ooba and Darox both being town now).

[easjo682]

V/LA this weekend, I'll be at a convention

[Nobody Special]

Hahaha

Unvote, Vote: CMAR

Did a quick rundown on Josh's ISO.

Guess who is never mentioned?

Not once. Quoted once that I saw, but never talked about.

(That said if I'm right about this I'd put heavy money on Ooba and Darox both being town now).

I have reason to doubt your speculations about setup. (Sorry, but it is what it is.) That said, I want to check Josh's iso myself (not that I don't trust you) but MS is being a real bitch tonight. Maybe it'll be better tomorrow.

[TheSkeward]

Why don't we all quit softclaiming? Fucking morons.

[CryMeARiver]

Why don't we all quit softclaiming? Fucking morons.

If you are referring to me, I'd like to clear up that what I said has absolutely nothing to do with my role. Explanation later.

[Nobody Special]

Mine's also not a softclaim, it's meta-based. Sorry for not being more clear.

[CryMeARiver]

Hahaha

Unvote, Vote: CMAR

Did a quick rundown on Josh's ISO.

Guess who is never mentioned?

Not once. Quoted once that I saw, but never talked about.

(That said if I'm right about this I'd put heavy money on Ooba and Darox both being town now).

Ok, so he doesn't mention me. That's because he was arguing with you for more than half the game and defending himself the other half. This is a weak point.

[SpyreX]

And everyone else gets at least a mention?

Yeaaa

[Darox]

Voting CMAR so hard right now.

'No, nothing to do with miller. Also, I'm pretty sure one doesn't know that they are a miller, only regular.'

'I'd like to clear up that what I said has absolutely nothing to do with my role. Explanation later.'

If it's got nothing to do with your role, then it's speculation on the setup.

And if it's speculation on the setup, then why the hell did you imply you had such in depth knowledge.

[CryMeARiver]

Voting CMAR so hard right now.

'No, nothing to do with miller. Also, I'm pretty sure one doesn't know that they are a miller, only regular.'

'I'd like to clear up that what I said has absolutely nothing to do with my role. Explanation later.'

If it's got nothing to do with your role, then it's speculation on the setup.

And if it's speculation on the setup, then why the hell did you imply you had such in depth knowledge.

No where have I ever seen a miller who knows he is a miller because then they would just claim miller and mafia would be able to claim miller. That's stupid.
Yes, I have been speculating about the setup. I've been thinking about "weak vig". Weak doc is if they protect mafia, then they die. This would not make sense for a vig though, since shooting mafia and then dying is stupid and defeats the purpose of a vig. So the only thing I could come up with is that they can't choose who they shoot at night. Thinking about the flavor of the game, I thought of a mob killing a monster. So there might be a group of weak vigs? This is all speculation of course and I can guarantee that my role PM does not tell me any of this

[Darox]

So basically you've got nothing and your whole "I know something you don't know, I'll explain later" was a waste of time.


Where's that case on your suspect you promised?

[CryMeARiver]

So basically you've got nothing and your whole "

I know something you don't know, I'll explain later"

was a waste of time.


Where's that case on your suspect you promised?

Pretty sure I never said that.
I have a lot on my plate. It'll come.

[Darox]

So basically you've got nothing and your whole "

I know something you don't know, I'll explain later"

was a waste of time.


Where's that case on your suspect you promised?

Pretty sure I never said that.
I have a lot on my plate. It'll come.

I have reason to believe the bolded is true.

I'm pretty sure you did.

[CryMeARiver]

So basically you've got nothing and your whole "

I know something you don't know, I'll explain later"

was a waste of time.


Where's that case on your suspect you promised?

Pretty sure I never said that.
I have a lot on my plate. It'll come.

I have reason to believe the bolded is true.

I'm pretty sure you did.

I never said that I had info that you didn't have. I was referring to my speculation. Again, no where did I say "I know something you don't know".