Mini 948 - Victorian Vampire - Game Over

[Darox]

Meanwhile you’ve dodged my question as to why those conclusions were drawn and completely ignored the second part of Zang’s statement, which asks the same thing. Please provide your reasons Why they are scum, town and VT specifically.

Yup. How about that.

[SpyreX]

He's not saying VT, he's saying VI - there's a huge difference.

He's wrong, of course but.

[Zang]

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Your post at 201 shows surprise to me that Ooba has made a Dayvig. Why?

Since I’ve had to revisit I have another question also. Did you not read Ooba’s post, since you unvote at 204 because you didn't realize he was a suicide vig? Ooba clearly states he’s dead – “This also means I’m dead. Hope it was worth it.”

why shouldn't I have been surprised? to my knowledge he did not previously claim vig. For the second question I have to confess that I read his statement wrong, I thought it said "If this means that I'm dead, I hope it was worth it." Meaning that if he is killed/lynched he would hope that it was worth it.

[JoshTheStampede]

Meanwhile you’ve dodged my question as to why those conclusions were drawn and completely ignored the second part of Zang’s statement, which asks the same thing. Please provide your reasons Why they are scum, town and VT specifically.

Yup. How about that.

You can't really expect anyone to take your statements seriously if you refuse to explain them.

[TheSkeward]

Why is Josh still alive?

[JoshTheStampede]

Why is Josh still alive?

Did you miss the part where Ooba isn't really a vig and was just doing that to gauge my reaction?

[TheSkeward]

Nope. I'm asking why you haven't been lynched yet.

[JoshTheStampede]

Nope. I'm asking why you haven't been lynched yet.

Oh, in that case it's because you don't really have a case on me, much less enough of one to pull of a turbolynch.

[TheSkeward]

off*

[JoshTheStampede]

off*

Yes, correct, my fault.

[easjo682]

You have to give us something to go on. Like I've pointed out before I see nothing except setup speculation and zero scumhunting from your side. even if you don't think "anybody is scum", I'd like your opinions on various players.

JoshTheStampede- I haven't really taken to like from the start
Zang- not much to say either way
Slaine Hayes- dodgy but don't think he's scummy
cruelty- not much to say either way
TheSkeward- not much to say either way
Yosarian2- seems to be chipping in on the scum hunt
SpyreX- dodgy
CryMeARiver- dont really have an opinion
MagnaofIllusion- is contributing to the hunt
Darox- think hes town
Ooba- dont know

[JoshTheStampede]

You have to give us something to go on. Like I've pointed out before I see nothing except setup speculation and zero scumhunting from your side. even if you don't think "anybody is scum", I'd like your opinions on various players.

JoshTheStampede- I haven't really taken to like from the start
Zang- not much to say either way
Slaine Hayes- dodgy but don't think he's scummy
cruelty- not much to say either way
TheSkeward- not much to say either way
Yosarian2- seems to be chipping in on the scum hunt
SpyreX- dodgy
CryMeARiver- dont really have an opinion
MagnaofIllusion- is contributing to the hunt
Darox- think hes town
Ooba- dont know

That is a lot of words and pretty much no information.

With the exception of thinking Darox is town (for some reason you don't specify), every other one of those is extremely wishy-washy.

You dont like me. Great. Does that mean you think I'm scum or just that you think I'm an asshole?

SpyreX and Slaine are "dodgy" but you don't think Slaine is scum. Do you think SpyreX is scum? If not, what do you mean by dodgy? Do you mean it in the british sense of "suspicious" or in the more literal "trying to dodge" sense?

Yosarian and Magna are chipping into the scum hunt. Great. Does that mean you think they are town? If so, why didn't you just say "think he's town" like you did with Darox?

[ooba]

off*

Great way to pad the post count in the game ..

Other players who you think are scummy?

Hmm. Zang has decent responses

Unvote. Vote: Slaine Hayes

What does everyone think of a lurker lynch for D1?

easjo: The lack of commitment is alarming. You've called one player town, You don't like the player on whom the most votes are currently (big surprise there) and please tell me - which of Slaine's posts lead you to think he's not scummy?

[SpyreX]

Wooo.

Well, watching the pair of jumping posts parroting each other really makes me think easj is town THAT NEEDS TO PLAY THE GAME.

Seriously. Look at 261 and 262.

[JoshTheStampede]

Wooo.

Well, watching the pair of jumping posts parroting each other really makes me think easj is town THAT NEEDS TO PLAY THE GAME.

Seriously. Look at 261 and 262.

So you think that because Ooba and I didn't like easj's post, that easj must be town?

[SpyreX]

Pretty much. Double parroting the power-lurker is an easy out.

[ElectricBadger]

Vote Count:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

(3) Ooba: Zang, JoshTheStampede, SpyreX
(4) JoshTheStampede: easjo682, TheSkeward, cruelty, MagnaofIllusion
(3) Slaine Hayes: CryMeARiver, Yosarian2, Ooba
(1) SpyreX: Darox

(1) Not Voting: Slaine Hayes

Day One ends by April 20th at toll of midnight PST.

...ashes, to ashes, we all fall down....

[JoshTheStampede]

Pretty much. Double parroting the power-lurker is an easy out.

How is it "double parroting"? We both copied each other? There's no chance that maybe one or both of us actually believed what we said? None at all?

Are you so tunneled on me that you think anyone I attack MUST be town, and anyone I agree with MUST be scum?

[SpyreX]

I'm not even voting for you at the mo'.

And going from shock and offended to parroting ooba well wooo nelly.

[SpyreX]

EBWOP: Sorry, Ooba parroted you. My bad.

And you didn't say anything about it.

[JoshTheStampede]

Haha, awesome. You accuse me of parroting Ooba, and that must be some damning evidence on me. Even warranted a "wooo nelly".

And then when you realize you were wrong and backtrack on it, somehow it doesn't change your opinion of the situation. I'm still scum, apparently.

Hmm, who was it that was all over people for quickly changing their mind in successive posts and calling it scummy? Hmm, if only I could remember who that was...

Oh right.

unvote
vote SpyreX

[SpyreX]

And thus the circle is complete. Remember my "Everything scummy revolves around me?" comment.

Yep.

You backtrack on rolefishing and then don't call Magna out on it? Check.
You vote for Ooba under the "I can't believe you would DO such a thing?" but don't even bat an eye when he parrots you? Check.
You ignore my very simple request for who your suspects are because, shock and awe, they totally revolve around you? Check.
You then vote for me (who totally wasn't scum earlier) because I made a mistake in how I read it AND try to compare that to your "changing your mind" business? Check.

Get 'er done. Ooba can rope tomorrow.

Unvote, Vote: Josh

[JoshTheStampede]

And thus the circle is complete. Remember my "Everything scummy revolves around me?" comment.

Yep.

You backtrack on rolefishing and then don't call Magna out on it? Check.
You vote for Ooba under the "I can't believe you would DO such a thing?" but don't even bat an eye when he parrots you? Check.
You ignore my very simple request for who your suspects are because, shock and awe, they totally revolve around you? Check.
You then vote for me (who totally wasn't scum earlier) because I made a mistake in how I read it AND try to compare that to your "changing your mind" business? Check.

Get 'er done. Ooba can rope tomorrow.

Unvote, Vote: Josh

Do you know why it seems like I think everything scummy revolves around me?

Because every time something happens, you explicitly call it back to me. This isn't me saying these things, dude. It's you.

When I voted for you way back when, you decided it was because I was scum.

When ooba did the fake-vig gambit, you said it was because I was a more valuable scum role than ooba.

When I didn't like a post easj made, and ooba didn't like the same post, you assumed it was because I was scum.

Almost every post you have made in this game has been about me. Even the one where you vote for Ooba you manage to talk about me being scum in the same post.

And when I point this out, you say that

I

am the one claiming all the scumminess revolves around me? You're SO POSITIVE that I am scum that everything you say and do in this game is pointed right at me. You're completely tunneled. You can't possibly believe that anything in this game happens for any reason other than "Josh is scum"?

[SpyreX]

Who are your suspects, Josh?

Its not a hard question.

[JoshTheStampede]

Who are your suspects, Josh?

Its not a hard question.

Well, originally I thought you were a townie who was just tunnelled on me. Then you kept pounding away at it and pounding away at it so I'm voting you because I now think you are scum trying to get more people to jump on the current vote leader (me) by making every single case somehow about me.

The Skeward has posted a lot less than you, but since RVS ended he has literally ZERO posts that are not directly about me. There's no cases, just "hey guys vote josh", and he also accuses me of being an alt and some other stuff. I think he's probably your scumbuddy and pushing the same wagon you are.

Cruelty jumped on what I considered to be a ludicrous case but that was days ago IRL and he hasn't really made much noise since then. So, FoS still on him, I guess, but I need to hear more.

Slaine Hayes and easj both have a bunch of posts that look like they wanted to up their post count without having much to say. That's minorly scummy, so I am keeping an eye on them.