Mini 1636: Mafialand Mayhem! - [Game Over]

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Aneninen

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Aeronaut

[Lapsa]

@Everyone:

What's your biggest strength at mafia game?

Answer:

I've been told that I'm good at 'following up' with my questioning.

[Lapsa]

Almost forgot: youtube link

[Lapsa]

@evilpacman18 is that you playing piano?

[Lapsa]

@MonkeyMan576 which animal is in my user picture?

[Lapsa]

I don't know a cheetah or tiger?

Hint: it is not a monkey

[Lapsa]

In post 19, Lapsa wrote:
@evilpacman18 is that you playing piano?

Yeah!

Impressive skills. Keep it up.

[Lapsa]

you are just lucky my vote button is broken.

Will keep that in mind

[Lapsa]

(..) and I daresay the ability to adapt to anything (..)

My friend, what do you think are some good things to strive towards within these games of Mafia? Also, how long have you been playing Mafia? I am simply curious.

adaptation you say

staying positive

all my life

[Lapsa]

@Aneninen, @Wake88: you have played together before?

@Aneninen who's your sweetheart?

[Lapsa]

(..) Would you be willing to give a rough estimate of how many years you've been playing? (..)

Do you, perhaps, have any slight reads on anyone as of yet? Maybe you have a bit of insider knowledge on someone's meta here?

(..) However, my memory on the details is foggy. As time wears on the memory fades ever so slightly.

you can call me Lapsa88

vote on Aneninen because of fluff

vote on Aeronaut because of doubling on you

zero insider knowledge

thing in common - can't remember losing my memory

[Lapsa]

Do you feel posting fluff is worthy of a vote?

depends on context

[Lapsa]

You can find a picture of her on Facebook, though. Same goes for our kitty.

cat picture would be nice.

[Lapsa]

May you please elaborate on this?

no

[Lapsa]

@Aneninen what's up with pidgeons?

[Lapsa]

Why not?

too much negativity

[Lapsa]

beautiful kitty, Aneninen

[Lapsa]

@Wake88 and how do you define reason?

[Lapsa]

Please answer 46 first.

to watch you asking

your turn

[Lapsa]

Also, the example of fluff you gave as your reasoning for voting Anen came after your vote, so clearly you saying that wasn't genuine.

but I never said that's my reasoning for voting Anen

[Lapsa]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Luca Blight

[Lapsa]

...I would add that him refusing to answer my question while wanting me to then answer his doesn't bode well. Not sure if he's Scum or inexperienced.

why not both?

In two hours—should nothing change—I'd quite like to discuss Wake88's absence regarding 61.

[Lapsa]

...on a side note, to be safe, I think we should assume we're dealing with a 10:3 Setup.

why?

[Lapsa]

Why are you voting Luca, Lapsa?

define reasoning and I'll answer that

[Lapsa]

This suggests different....

true

[Lapsa]

Luca, may I please have your input on Lapsa's current behavior?

you can have mine

[Lapsa]

Lapsa you could save me some time though, you play so nonchalantly as scum?

I got thousand faces and they all look same

[Lapsa]

@KatieB does your lack of time alternates?

[Lapsa]

I dunno, does your in english maybe that post typing? <3

don't blame me - blame Babelfish

[Lapsa]

UNVOTE:

[Lapsa]

douche dog, be so kind and dig up some games of this star8 creature

would appreciate some help

[Lapsa]

but the example he gave came after his vote on you.

*yawn*

VOTE: Luca Blight

[Lapsa]

how about you do it captain coy, I will double check you for accuracy. got a couple other things I would like to look up, that is a bit more pressing me thinks.

woof woof

sharing is caring

[Lapsa]

UNVOTE:

[Lapsa]

-----===== Katie's jam recipe =====-----

@KatieB does your lack of time alternates?

I dunno

.

mix all of this with 2 teaspoons of assumption that we ain't nothing more but functions of time

[Lapsa]

movie quote

beep beep

[Lapsa]

And HEEERE'S the not explaining of the vote. We're not in RVS, in case you missed the email-blast.

that would break my promise

[Lapsa]

@George:

That's not my entire case at all.
There's also the fact that Katie's wagon has generated discussion and brought about useful information the town can use later in the game.

how exactly is that a part of your case on Katie?

I'm not convinced Katie is scum at this point, but the wagon is pro-town to me. Therefore my vote stays at this point.

Luca alone is voting for Katie

how broad is wagon you are talking about?

[Lapsa]

@Luca there's a monkey on your back. gonna do something about that?

[Lapsa]

at a certain point you're not changing anybody's opinion, just clouding up the thread.

@Aeronaut where is that point?

[Lapsa]

As broad as any other wagon right now.

untrue

[Lapsa]

Almost forgot: youtube link

[Lapsa]

Fixed a minor error. Sorry about that

reports major error

[Lapsa]

which reminds me...

@douche_dog what was the matter with it?

[Lapsa]

no... the button

[Lapsa]

(lost)

coordinates 27 150. straight ahead, i can see the land!

[Lapsa]

4 8 15 16 23 42

what did you mean?

[Lapsa]

That is hypocritical.

Why the hypocrisy? I'm asking you to clear this up for us once and for all Lapsa.

If people are misunderstanding your posts then that is your fault for not being transparent and understandable

try defining reasoning. simple trade

[Lapsa]

You say in 69 that fluff wasn't your reason for voting Aneninen. Yet in 37 you did indeed vote on Anen because of fluff, and you linked to one of his posts as well.

*yawn*

VOTE: Wake88

[Lapsa]

[1]

try defining reasoning. simple trade

Whut?

[2]*yawn*. Need you vote-hop every time when someone starts talking about you?

1: that's the part of conversation you are missing out on
2: no

[Lapsa]

Anyways, Luca is correct in 75.

true

@Wake88

great colours btw. stealing it

[Lapsa]

hi

pacman

. who's scum?

[Lapsa]

Is there anyone still here? ^_^

true

[Lapsa]

give me a top scumread

it's a secret

Which is why later lapsa is weird

@Clown

what do you find weird?

[Lapsa]

or pompous mafia theories that mean nothing

@Clown

have you played with Norse god?

[Lapsa]

I underestimated you (Aneninen) last time we played. Not happening again.

@Katie

what happened?

[Lapsa]

yes

@Clown

how did it go? setup? win/lose? any comments? game link?

[Lapsa]

whats your point

@Clown

that you are scum ofc. please, use question marks

[Lapsa]

No one is saying how I'm not explaining myself well. I think I am being very reasonable.

Hint: is neither tiger nor cheetah

[Lapsa]

?

thanks

[Lapsa]

Well THAT makes me scum.

@Monkey

explain - what did you mean?

[Lapsa]

the beginning of your iso
has content and questions
even if its wrapped in small posts
and short sentences

after rvs your iso has little content

@Clown

so what is your biggest strength at mafia game?

[Lapsa]

How is your avatar related to my alignment?

@Monkey

is it supposed to be?

[Lapsa]

Your the one that says I'm being unlear about your avatar and that makes me scum.

@Monkey

and when did I say that?

[Lapsa]

my worst skill is reading

@Clown

and what is your biggest strength at mafia game?

[Lapsa]

No one is saying how I'm not explaining myself well. I think I am being very reasonable.

@Monkey

explain - what did you mean?

Evidently I have poor people and logic skills.

that might be the case indeed

[Lapsa]

Nevermind I am an above average poker player and my job is in technical support.

my dick is 13 inches long

[Lapsa]

[Lapsa]

@Monkey

am I misrepping anything?

[Lapsa]

I thought it was 15 inches?

Thanks for paying attention.

[Lapsa]

and the specific example on which he based his vote

@Luca

third time

VOTE: Luca Blight

[Lapsa]

Geesh, last time i unvote you, droog.

My scumreads right now are katie and lapsa. pacman and droog look town. Unsure on everyone else.

@Monkey

what makes me scum?

[Lapsa]

what a desperation

[Lapsa]

VOTE: lapsa

@Clown

what makes me scum?

[Lapsa]

In two hours—should nothing change—I'd quite like to discuss

Clown's

absence regarding 328.

[Lapsa]

sure
what do you want to discuss

balloons

[Lapsa]

Geesh, last time i unvote you,

droog

.

My scumreads right now are

katie

and lapsa.

pacman

and

droog

look town. Unsure on everyone else.

Sounds like a personal problem.

Illl

, you haven't said much, what are you thinking?

[Lapsa]

I'm trying to understand what Lapsa is trying to say, but all I can derive from weird pictures, tangents, youtube links, and links to posts of youtube links is that he's trying to make the thread harder to parse. Town wouldn't do that.

Vote: Lapsa

sorry

[Lapsa]

Almost forgot: youtube link

[Lapsa]

@Monkey

do you scumread

Clown

?

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Luca Blight

i would ote this with you mm

[Lapsa]

If you are interested in voting with me you would vote Katie. She's suddenly absent now that no one is talking about her.

I'll make it easier and

Vote Katie

Wow that is impressive.

[Lapsa]

where the fuck did this come from

?

[Lapsa]

Lapsa, that Luca vote is yet again

<3

[Lapsa]

If I were to answer this post I'd use a character which is to be found in my avatar.

that would be impolite

reminds me that i still haven't found time to try that E.B.O.N.Y. thing -_-

[Lapsa]

Clown

didn't switch his vote

@Luca

why do you play along?

[Lapsa]

don't forget to direction switch others

[Lapsa]

Anything noteworthy?

Katie

said that I have people skills

[Lapsa]

Now you don't want to get an avatar

Katie

, there is an avatar:



And here's a nice handle:

Domino

[Lapsa]

I like

Monkey's

fluency of thought.

Will unvote for now.

VOTE: MonkeyMan576

[Lapsa]

Almost forgot: youtube link

[Lapsa]

you fucker

i'm not a fucker, i'm just big boned

[Lapsa]

can we policy lynch lapsa
until he starts providing posts with content

i'm afraid that's impossible

Clown

what content would you like to be provided?

[Lapsa]

Hey Lapsa, do you have a spreadsheet with colors for all the players?

nope

[Lapsa]

Just why, Lapsa, why?!?

why not?

[Lapsa]

Aneninen

stop the fluff. you also are voting for

Monkey

[Lapsa]

Theatrics aside

UNVOTE:

[Lapsa]

is that supposed to be a reaction test?

yes

lapsa is capable of
explaining votes
answering questions
follow-up to his questions (((

which he calls his strength!

)))
pushing on certain posts

so why isnt he anymore

I haven't called that my strength

I'm shy

[Lapsa]

Aneninen

stop the fluff. you also are voting for

Monkey

That's true. But, regardless of that your post can still be weird at best.
A bit more about it: (1) either I'm wrong about Monkeyman and he's town, in that case you could be a scum going for a mislynch, (2) or both of you are scum and you decided to bus him (this is not too likely though), (3) it's also possible that Monkey is scum and you're a bad-town.

it is possible that (1) you are bad-town, (2) you are bad-scum, (3) i like turtles

[Lapsa]

Monkey

why do you ignore

DoucheDog

?

[Lapsa]

I didn't ignore him, I gave a post like he asked. You abviously have no intention of improving your posting.

Vote: Lapsa

@Monkey

why are you vote hopping?

[Lapsa]

Scum lie all the time, just because they claim to not know the vote count doesn't mean they don't know it.

wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.

Elaborate, please. Why would I get "scum points"? Why not Lapsa?

you are attacking him for his vote

No, I was attacking him for the

context

of his vote.

(1) If you don't wait, then you just get accused of vote hopping. Voting isn't the only way to apply pressue, after all.
(2) Why do you say that regarding scum-Sthar/Kate?
(3) I am observing everyone. I think I've said who I think are town.

(1) Ugh. Townies

need not

work on looking town. F-ckthysshyt.
(2) I've seen both town-Sthar and scum-Sthar before. I simply doubt that Sthar would create an alt so as to perform such a gameplay as scum.
(3) Good. But you've just contradicted your previous post.

wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.

Elaborate, please. Why would I get "scum points"? Why not Lapsa?

you are attacking him for his vote

I like

Monkey's

fluency of thought.
Will unvote for now.

vote: MonkeyMan576

????!!
Just why, Lapsa, why?!?
Keep producing shytty posts and shytty context for your votes and you're get lynched because of them. Possible scum or possible useless townie, that's my read on you right now.

(Reading the latest posts thoroughly and answering them will happen later; need to go to work right now.)

wait arent you voting Monkeyman too? if Monkeyman flips town, this post gets scum points.

He is voting someone that you supposedly think is scum...why attack him on his vote? what was the motivation behind it. IF MM is scum, was his vote bad?

I didn't ignore him, I gave a post like he asked. You abviously have no intention of improving your posting.

Vote: Lapsa

I didn't ignore him, I gave a post like he asked. You abviously have no intention of improving your posting.

Vote: Lapsa

@Monkey

why are you vote hopping?

@Monkey

and what's your case on me?

[Lapsa]

quick reply sucks

[Lapsa]

Wholly less sucky than your posting.

no need for insults. we are all civilized here

@Monkey

what's your case on me?

[Lapsa]

Almost forgot: youtube link

[Lapsa]

@Lapsa also you apparently have a post restriction that you're not keeping. Plus this is a mini normal and I don't think post restrictions are allowed.

Monkey

what's a post restriction?

[Lapsa]

Monkey

do i have it or not? is there a cure?

[Lapsa]

I wouldn't know, I don't have access to your role pm. But you're acting like you have a post restriction, which should not be allowed in mini normals, and no, if you did have one unfortunately there is no cure.

Monkey

what kind of post restriction you suspect there is and why?

[Lapsa]

Posting youtube videos, making comments about avatars, how should I know?

Monkey

, I don't know. how should I know how you should know? isn't that why I'm asking?

[Lapsa]

I want to keep up all the post restrictions,

Domino

[Lapsa]

I think he's just trying to confuse people and distract from scumhunting.

Monkey

are you confused?

[Lapsa]

what a desperation

Voting isn't the only way to apply pressue, after all.

[Lapsa]

ok, ok... stop begging already

VOTE: MonkeyyMan576

[Lapsa]

An OMGUS to top off your scumminess. You haven't even accused me of being scummy, yet you are voting me. Lynch Lapsa please.

you are scummy

[Lapsa]

welcome, Gendaberry

[Lapsa]

teach me,

Monkey

. is there anything else I should do?

[Lapsa]

Monkey

will you apply pressure on me or not? aren't you voting me?

[Lapsa]

Hint: it is Mystique

Confusing content:



bless you

Monkey

. may the spirits guide you

[Lapsa]

I'm afraid we can't be friends just yet,

Domino

[Lapsa]

That doesn't mean he's town or he's going to be useful town, but given that, I'll

Unvote:

for now.

i won't

[Lapsa]

@Lapsa, I'm bored. Give me some music to listen.

youtube link

[Lapsa]

youtube link

[Lapsa]

Monkey

why are you voting lessobvscum?

[Lapsa]

I never said Illl was less obvscum. All the scum are equally obvious to me.

you picked one at random?

[Lapsa]

Monkey

and what's obvious about me that makes me equally obvscum to

DominoBars

?

[Lapsa]

even if monkey is scum
we have no real associations
no other wagons or suspects
town has hardly discussed lynching anyone les

if monkey is scum:

then we
will have managed to
lynch scum without real
associations, no
other wagons or suspects, without
town hardly discussing
lynching anyone les

[Lapsa]

Jesus Christ, Lapsa. Why are you copying droog's posting style?

You didn't even color

Monkey's

name.

AFAIK Jesus ain't copycat

[Lapsa]

sthar8 is my alt

it is discusting time!

[Lapsa]

I am Lapsa

[Lapsa]

I need to catch up on a few pages, but I definitely prefer a Lapsa lynch to a Monkey one right now.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Lapsa

What else could have been gleaned from some people wrongly thinking I might not be sthar8?

[Lapsa]

Monkey

and what's obvious about me that makes me equally obvscum to

DominoBars

?

That's a bad reason not to change your vote, if you think lapsa or Ill is scummier than me.

In two hours—should nothing change—I'd quite like to discuss

Monkey's

absence regarding #583.

[Lapsa]

its like hes saying
'im useless
im not going to play
haha neener neener cant touch me'

balloons

[Lapsa]

I asked Monkey to provide a particular post where he deemed that katie was being defensive/emotional (scummy) which made him vote her (had to ask twice). He said all of her posts, i asked him for one in particular and he has again not provided one.

Do you think these actions from Monkey are from someone who is town and really believes his case?

Monkey

why do you ignore

DoucheDog

?

[Lapsa]

He said all of her posts, i asked him for one in particular and he has again not provided one.

I didn't, I just posted re Katie.

Not this time. Previous one:

give me an example post (dont say every post) where you think Katie is being defensive (and clearly scummy).

[Lapsa]

I gave an example post.

exactly

why are you telling that only now?

why that's not on #606?

instead you ignore

DoucheDog

and once again state it's all of

my

posts

He said all of her posts, i asked him for one in particular and he has again not provided one.

Any time she posts anything with content it is about how terrible everyone's reads on her are. She hardly ever posts anything about anyone else.

[Lapsa]

yes,

Wake88

. show some fluency of thought

[Lapsa]

I'm not ignoring him and I'm not saying it's all of her posts. You deserve to be lynched on your misrepping alone.

come at me, bro

[Lapsa]

wake take a look at my 605

also,

Wake88

- explain reasoning

[Lapsa]

yes,

Wake88

. show some fluency of thought

Oh, you certainly do not know me.

i'm curious - will get to know you

[Lapsa]

Vanilla town

[Lapsa]

i mean christ
does no one else take issue with

lapsa

voting

monkey

after saying he wanted to unvote
and having no justification for his unvote?
when he wasnt even voting

monkey

and he still hasnt unvoted?

does that make a lick of sense??

I already did:

I like

droogs

ability to multi task.

Will unvote for now.

Unvote

Changing your mind as the game progresses shows fluency of thought and is protown, as opposed to just lurking or posting bad arguments.

[Lapsa]

@Lapsa So why all the weird behavior then?

what behavior you find weird?

[Lapsa]

because

lapsa

is not playing to town wincon

amazing balls

Clown

, olive is one my favorite colours

[Lapsa]

@Lapsa So why all the weird behavior then?

what behavior you find weird?

All the pictures, youtube links, odd coloring, generally several word contentless posts. Come on.

be more specific. everything i do has a reason

you got my claim

[Lapsa]

find me someone who did all those things
and ill gladly join you
(((hint: its not

monkey

)))

Personally, I define fluff as posts that don't really have much if anything to do with the game at hand. Like discussing

jam recipes

within an active Mafia game.

I don't get the feeling that being emotional or defensive is indicative of alignment. Maybe when it comes to meta, but that's typically unreliable. Misrepresentation and hyperbole, I think, are scumtells.

-----=====

Katie's

jam recipe =====-----

@KatieB

does your lack of time alternates?

I dunno

.

mix all of this with 2 teaspoons of assumption that we ain't nothing more but functions of time

[Lapsa]

but I really don't want to see more of this contentless spamming crap during Day 2.

you said that

also - you know shit about trolling

[Lapsa]

Okay I don't usually do this, but we're very close to Deadline and I'm unable to read the thread nor to post now. So, can someone summarize for me the recent events? Most preferabely, two players, please, in case of the single one who answers happens to be a scum.

(Have this post made sense at all?)

I'm sthar8 and no one dares to talk about that

[Lapsa]

especially as he apparently posts like this as both town and scum

link my scum game

[Lapsa]

That would be f-cking illegal being with two alts in the same game.

yes, but game is in progress. so Riddleton can't do shit about that. gonna sort it out postgame

[Lapsa]

L1



state your intent to hammer yada yada

[Lapsa]

I scumread

droog

. I suspect that he is the real sthar8's alt

VOTE: droog

monkey

is the other alternate wagon
im not able to summarize the

monkey

case because i dont sympathize with it

[Lapsa]

I have f-cking no idea what I'm doing

And that is not true,

Aneninen

.

[Lapsa]

Almost forgot: deafening silence

[Lapsa]

ggwp, make a good use of it

[Lapsa]

wanted to add: i really do think that Monkey is scum. keep that in mind

[Lapsa]

i like douchedog, wake, katie, aneninen, maybe domino

[Lapsa]

and that's about it, i guess

so long, and thanks for all the fish

[Lapsa]

tell me something new ^_^

[Lapsa]

Wake88, see #699. i did what i did deliberately, knowing what's the price

Illl is really fishing to try to make droog look scummy. I'm telling you Illl, Lapsa, and KatieB are scum and if I'm wrong you can lynch me tomorrow.

[Lapsa]

That would be f-cking illegal being with two alts in the same game.

yes, but game is in progress. so Riddleton can't do shit about that. gonna sort it out postgame

[1] if this is true then the below doesnt make any sense.

i like douchedog, wake, katie, aneninen, maybe domino

[2] so let me get this straight. are you saying (in 674), you are being anti-town/scummy so that you get lynched...so that when you flip town, we lynch MM?

[3] because wasnt MM very close to being lynched before you did this?

[4] are you town?

[5] are you really playing two alts in the game?

1. true
2. no
3. no. that wagon wasn't going anywhere. and he pushed mine not because there was pressure on him, but because there wasn't and he felt safe enough
4. true
5.

yes

[Lapsa]

jesus, i am just confused now.

I never said I was confused, more misrepping

[Lapsa]

Town should be trying to find the scum, not engaging every effort to stay alive. It would make sense if we were right near a deadline, but there was no sense of urgency for Monkey right now - we've still got plenty of time before the deadline, and yet Monkey's more concerned with not being the biggest wagon.

Lapsa.
What you're doing is absolutely illegal.

Pretending

to break a rule is also against rules!
In other words: if there were a player named Arilou'laleelay in this game and I posted something like "Okay, I asked Arilou'laleelay in PM whether he has a PR" I'd be modkilled

no matter that I hadn't sent a PM at all!!!

See post 0, point vii!

hah. where's the line? keep it to yourself

[Lapsa]

fucking multi quote -_-

[Lapsa]

Town should be trying to find the scum, not engaging every effort to stay alive. It would make sense if we were right near a deadline, but there was no sense of urgency for Monkey right now - we've still got plenty of time before the deadline, and yet Monkey's more concerned with not being the biggest wagon.

Everyone needs to calm down. Lapsa is probably lying so let's just get the flip and leave punishment to the discretion of the mod.

if Lapsa flips scum, the game either needs to be reset (unless Katie is scum too) or he is lying and trying to bring down Katie too....or there is something going on that I dont know about...like a Post Restriction...or....this is a normal game right?

btw, i'm huge fan of your douchery. it's just beautiful

[Lapsa]

quick reply sucks -_-

[Lapsa]

Thank you for kind words,

Domino

youtube link