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Post #151 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:45 am
Postby ProHawk »
Active lurking... lol, I have been more active than the majority of you lot. I guarantee there is one scum using this buzz - word. I invited oka so we don't get a derp hammer a few pages into the game
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Post #152 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:34 am
Postby ProHawk »
In post 135, Xayzeck wrote:
because Prohawks ISO is one BIG problem that you guys should be talking about, but god I don't know why he's getting townread.
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Post #158 (isolation #22) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:31 pm
Postby ProHawk »
Flubbernugget, please tell me you are joking....
But since you aren't, let me spell it out for the reading impaired. In the post in question to "provoke discussion" I called out the dude who keeps yelling and screaming that my posts suck, when they don't. I asked him to talk, when he isn't. I asked him to prove his comparison of me to a lad with two or three posts, where I have more than quadruple that. And I have given a read which will be helpful for analysis later on.
When I am not on my phone, we are going to analyze your posts, to see how much you have spurred discussion flubby boy.
Until then, serious question, are you dumb, or scum?
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Post #159 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:44 pm
Postby ProHawk »
I get it now Flubby! You ask questions. Right.
See, I have been at this a long time. I try not to spoon feed people because it gets, well, boring. People should be playing the game, providing reads, making cases, refuting cases and the like. Which I have been doing. Which you have not been doing.
One liner question posts are people wanting to look like they are scum-hunting, when in reality they are scum. You are sitting back, apparently have a scum read (me) but haven't voted yet, despite my only having picked up one vote at this point. Despite having the POWER of multiple votes. May be playstyle, may be scum-caution. I am leaning toward the latter. I would vote you if you weren't at L-2 already.
Many reasons Oka, however I will start off with gut, which although impossible to defend against generally leads me in the right direction (although not always)
Your RVS initial post was anti-town.
Didn't like your over the top aggression at the beginning. Looked like you were trying too hard.
Used a past experience meta (3d and Bulba) to paint yourself as town.
Didn't like your response to me asking where your scum-reads sat. VERY fency and non-committal.
HOWEVER
With that said, this latest string of attacks on me has scum written all over it. So you definitely don't sit first on my to-lynch pile ATM.
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Post #164 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:13 pm
Postby ProHawk »
In post 163, roseylily wrote:You also started making posts with more content shortly after being
criticized for active lurking.
ATTACKED
Fixed that for you.
roseylily wrote:You've made a lot of accusations (particularly of Oka, scrambles, and Flubber, I believe), but haven't provided a lot of evidence, and despite your criticism of one liner question posts, a quick ISO reveals about six.
Touche. In my defense, I'm not a lawyer, i'm a detective. If you want my evidence, ask for it, although I usually provide it without directly stating it. You're cute though.
roseylily wrote:Also, what read have you given that will be "helpful for analysis later on"?
Xay - Town
Oka - Scum
Flubby - Scum
Scrambles - Maybe Scum?
Rest - Likely town, only time will tell.
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Post #176 (isolation #31) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:27 pm
Postby ProHawk »
Who taught you this concept of active lurking because I don't really think you have a good handle on it. Least of all why those posts you quoted would indicate scum-mentality.
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Post #209 (isolation #36) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:11 am
Postby ProHawk »
In post 201, Xayzeck wrote:what did you hope to achieve with these questions, and how would they help you figure out whether they were town/scum?
Flubber was being very non-committal, so I asked him what he commits to. I was hoping to get some reads out of him, but he just came back with a generic answer. Same with Oka, I wanted him to provide some reads, but he also came back with a generic answer. Both responses look scummy to me. Why didn't you get anything out of them?
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Post #229 (isolation #39) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:20 am
Postby ProHawk »
One of kndy, and roselily is scum.
One of oka and flubbed is scum, although I am leaning more oka based on the kndy vote.
I am being thrown up as a counter wagon based on an inaccurate premise which has yet to be hypothesized as scummy and which I have already explained as false.
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Post #235 (isolation #42) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:55 am
Postby ProHawk »
Also, explain to me how that question was hard?
Players X, Y, and Z are lurking.
Players A, B and C are posting a lot and being active.
I ask, do you think scum resides in group X, Y, and Z or A, B and C?
If you have town-reads on A, B, and C then clearly your answer would be in the lurking group. If you have scum-reads on player A and B then you would answer in the active group. If you have gut scum reads on player Y and a scum read on player B then you would answer both. Its not rocket science dude.
This is based on them both being lead-wagons while I am being pushed as a counter-wagon to them both. Coupled with reasons I have already given for my scum-reading them.
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Post #250 (isolation #48) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:05 pm
Postby ProHawk »
I am going to help you out here a little because I don't think you understand the driving force of wagons.
Wagons are driven by scum. Innately. Because they have inside knowledge on who is town, and who is scum. They have to drive wagons, or force town to herd in specific directions to survive. Town don't intentionally (or at least shouldn't) drive wagons because they are clueless. The ideal play for town is to evaluate whom out of the group is most likely exhibiting characteristics of scum without following or leading the herd so to speak.
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Post #254 (isolation #49) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:17 pm
Postby ProHawk »
You almost tempt me to self-vote so you all can see how awful your mafia theory is and maybe get on the right track of catching scum, although at this point there is little hope.
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Post #266 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:11 am
Postby ProHawk »
Yes, scrambles, I can put it into words, and I will. But I wanted to see your thought process before I give you my thoughts. Even if its laziness at unvoting, its EXTREMELY anti-town at best.
There are only two scum. If you have four votes in play, you are contributing to AT LEAST two town-deaths, and that is best-case scenario that you have your other two votes on scum. The other problem is when I try and evaluate voting patterns and motivations. Its too hard to see because which of the four votes are "real" votes, or stated in a better manner, which one of the four votes does kndy ACTUALLY want dead? Its impossible to tell. She could be tossing a vote out on a scum-partner while pushing three other mis-lynches in order to refer back and say "hey guys I voted scum D1!"
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Post #270 (isolation #54) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:21 pm
Postby ProHawk »
Rose, here are my thoughts do far. ..
The unlimited voting is inherently anti town, the advantage in this setup for town is the double day consecutive lynch. We have the ability to judge a lynch, lynch, get a flip and base our second lunch off information from the first without having to lose someone to a night kill. Votes are important because it's a physical way to judge motivation. So to answer your question, it's in our best interest to have no more than two votes in play at a time. If you have more than two, it says to me you either aren't paying attention/don't understand what you are doing or you aren't actually genuinely scum hunting.