Micro 387: Double Day Unlimited (GAME OVER)

[TheAdrienC]

So basically we have Oka vs. Rosey. Heph vs Hawk. Adrien vs. Droog. Someone's gotta be wrong...

[hephaestus]

Xayzeck, if an Oka lynch were to go through right now, who would you want to lynch tomorrow, town vs scum flip?

[hephaestus]

So basically we have Oka vs. Rosey. Heph vs Hawk. Adrien vs. Droog. Someone's gotta be wrong...

Everyone is wrong Xay and N_M are the scum team

[TheAdrienC]

Hey, one of my votes is on NM!

[ProHawk]

Heph if oka flips scum does that make me town?

[TheAdrienC]

Heph if oka flips scum does that make me town?

I know this wasn't directed at me, if Oka flipped scum, I think the only person my read would improve upon would be NM. I can't see both of them being scum.

[ProHawk]

Rather, I've got no clue why Oka hasn't been lynched yet.

I would like to hear some of your other reads.

[TheAdrienC]

ProHawk, you're online. Care to share a readlist?

[TheAdrienC]

Or at least your top scum reads.

[ProHawk]

All I have got is Oka at the top as far as town reads, and Heph at the bottom as far as scum reads. Haven't really sorted the in-between yet.

[TheAdrienC]

All I have got is Oka at the top as far as town reads, and Heph at the bottom as far as scum reads. Haven't really sorted the in-between yet.

That's fair. Can you give me a summary for both of those reads?

[ProHawk]

Heph feels like scum pushing his case, he seems to have a good handle of whats going on but is pushing me for hypothetical stuff using Oka's alignment as a crutch when we haven't even seen his alignment yet. His predecessor was also really distant and anti-town.

Oka's near death flail was really town, or EXTREMELY good acting.

You and Doog feel like town v town arguing.

Not real sure about Xayxeck and I thought rose was town last I remember.

N_M is about the most middle of the road that I have.

[hephaestus]

Heph if oka flips scum does that make me town?

No

[roseylily]

Im still waiting for rosey to duel me

I'm not sure how you want me to react to this post?
I suppose that to start, I'd like to know why you originally thought I was town and then just voted me without providing much reasoning.

[OkaPoka]

Give me your case on me.

[TheAdrienC]

Heph feels like scum pushing his case, he seems to have a good handle of whats going on but is pushing me for hypothetical stuff using Oka's alignment as a crutch when we haven't even seen his alignment yet. His predecessor was also really distant and anti-town.

Oka's near death flail was really town, or EXTREMELY good acting.

You and Doog feel like town v town arguing.

Not real sure about Xayxeck and I thought rose was town last I remember.

N_M is about the most middle of the road that I have.

I was thinking that about Oka. I didn't like a few things he did early on, but I'm having a hard time seeing him doing that as scum.

I'm gonna be the bigger person and

Unvote: Droog

. I'll do a run down similar to what I did on Oka for Not_Mafia and explain why my vote is on him or if anything suddenly sticks out as a reason to take my vote off of him.

[droog]

its not morning anymore but the more i think about it the more i dont like adrien's posts

Mod slipped that the

scum faction only has pre-game and night talk

on 2. That favors us just a little bit and we know they can't communicate during the day.

small stuff: who else noticed this?

Much more likely scum would notice

missing daytalk than town.

Not a fan on the "vote everyone" strategy by Oka as with only a five person needed for an opening lynch and makes a mislynch very easy for the scum to achieve,

this is a really watery, easy thing to condemn. I don't like it.

Adrien, please explain your oka read, and dazzle me with a vote on your top scumread

That right there was you calling me scum over it. Don't backtrack.

Here's the recap for those playing at home

Much more likely scum would notice

you calling me scum

Much more likely

you calling me

The basic thing i stated is true:

scum is much more likely to notice missing daytalk.

Adrien says it was pro-town to say it, which is not my point, and that he is confusing the two is much scummier than my original point

I'll play it against his first response:

[quote"In post 490, TheAdrienC"]droog: You didn't like how I pointed out it was to our (the town's) advantage that the scum doesn't have day talk in a game where we have two day lynches, which means they can only communicate between every other lynch and have very little time working together. You don't think that pointing that out is to our advantage throw off plans of theirs without them knowing what to do next? If you don't think that is advantageous of us to know, why not?
[/quote]

small stuff: who else noticed this? Much more likely scum would notice missing daytalk than town.

You don't think that pointing that out is to our advantage

Much more likely scum would notice

Man this wasn't even what I wanted him to talk about. i wanted his stuff on oka. But that's really obvious manipulation.

Also, I never claimed Oka was my top scumread. I said Not_Mafia was because it was even worse for him to do it after Oka did it in the first place. Also, don't say I'm refusing to give you my read on Oka when I clearly stated I would do it after I come home from work, which I just got home from?

I never said anywhere that oka was his top scumread

What the hell? I never said you were shifting your case on Oka.

Did you mess up to quote tag or

are you trying to pin your words on Oka?

I also do not like the way you are twisting my votes to make me look scummy for reasons you are making up.

right back atcha

Find one post where I twist your vote. I just did a ctrl+f of my own posts and the only spot i mention your vote is to ask you for it

Prohawk, Xayzek this is why i think he's scummy

He just accused me of twisting his votes

before hed made any votes i could have possibly twisted

this is what all of his posts against me have been like

[droog]

I want to hear more out of roseliley or hephaestus i think the other scum could be in there

I don't think it's Prohawk or Oka

Xay is a big null for me right now because I cant remember anything he's said
we've had separate conversations so

xay do you still think my case on adrien is crap

[ProHawk]

Droog, I think your case has a lot to do with semantics here.

I also don't necessarily agree with the whole scum would notice day-chat or no day-chat because I know as scum would avoid tying myself to anything that could link me as scum.

[Not_Mafia]

I felt it was weird he felt the need to point no daytalk and 2 scum when that's the standard but he's also played significantly less games than his join date would suggest

[hephaestus]

N_M tell me about your vote

[Xayzeck]

xay do you still think my case on adrien is crap

Well.....

Him confusing the points is scummy? No. Him pointing it out is protown? Do you disagree with that? Additional information is always good, so I agree that it helps town knowing that they do not have daytalk. Is it more likely scum notice minute details? Yes. Both of these are valid points.

Can you quote where you explicitly asked for his opinion on Oka?

How is it obvious manipulation by replying to your opinion that calling out the no daytalk = scummy?

The rest I will check the real posts myself, but time, it's late, exams to tomorrow

tl;dr yeah it's pretty crap idek why you are so confident, save for that last chunk that has some validity. maybe.

[ProHawk]

Rather, I've got no clue why Oka hasn't been lynched yet.

I would like to hear some of your other reads.

I will continue to quote this.

[droog]

this is a really watery, easy thing to condemn. I don't like it.

Adrien, please explain your oka read, and dazzle me with a vote on your top scumread

this was the meat of my post he ignored to waffle on daytalk

[TheAdrienC]

Long post responding to your 541 coming, but I responded to both parts of that. I voted for my top read on post 492, and I gave my full read on Oka on 520. I didn't ignore anything.