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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:59 pm

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In post 996, Xayzeck wrote:I'm fucking sick and tired of your Oka case being amounted to "his breakdown was town" when everything else in his play is scum


A lot of times its easier to see town than it is scum because a lot of things town do could be considered scummy. It's how mislynches happen. But I am not the only one with a town read on Oka...
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:19 am

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In post 1000, ProHawk wrote:A lot of times its easier to see town than it is scum because a lot of things town do could be considered scummy. It's how mislynches happen. But I am not the only one with a town read on Oka...

Please, elaborate on why you think he is town, beyond his prelynch breakdown
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:03 am

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Why does there have to be any other reason?
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:10 am

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Xaydeck...I have a fun activity for you. I want you to give a percentage for everyone left in the game on their odds of flipping scum. 100% being that there is no possible way on God's green Earth that they flip town and 0% for someone you feel is confirmed town (probably going to list yourself as that, which all of us would so no issues with you doing it).
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:37 am

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Oh yeah, its unlikely that Droog and Adrien are both town seeing how we haven't lost yet.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:14 am

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To me, that honestly means he's confirmed scum.
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:54 am

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All right adrien and droog you guys have 2 days to duke it out and fight each other with a case.

Then we lynch Xay and have droog vs adrien fight continue.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:27 pm

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In post 1002, ProHawk wrote:Why does there have to be any other reason?

Because I've up multiple points for Oka scum, and you have 1 for okatown, and I don't recall you even elaborating a bit why it rings you as town.

The fact that Okatown stands on just 1 point 40 pages in the game is disturbing
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:30 pm

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In post 1003, TheAdrienC wrote:Xaydeck...I have a fun activity for you. I want you to give a percentage for everyone left in the game on their odds of flipping scum. 100% being that there is no possible way on God's green Earth that they flip town and 0% for someone you feel is confirmed town (probably going to list yourself as that, which all of us would so no issues with you doing it).

80% Oka
20% Hawk
49% You
51% droog

What do you hope to gain from this?
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:00 pm

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I want to see exactly how sold you are that Oka is scum. 20% is 1/5. So there is a fifth of you thinking maybe you could be wrong? This isn't a time to be taking any risks.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:39 pm

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Vote Count #2.8:


Not Voting:
ProHawk, Xayzeck, OkaPoka, droog, TheAdrienC

With 5 people alive, it takes 3 to lynch.


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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:41 pm

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okay lets lynch Xay now?
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:47 pm

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Is Xay a 100% in your eyes, Oka?
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:47 pm

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75%
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:46 am

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In post 1009, TheAdrienC wrote:I want to see exactly how sold you are that Oka is scum. 20% is 1/5. So there is a fifth of you thinking maybe you could be wrong? This isn't a time to be taking any risks.

90% just felt a little extreme, it felt like 90% meant that there's a minuscule 10% that could convince me otherwise, but that isn't the case, because the entire playerlist seems to disagree with my Oka read. That and how Hawk is interacting with me.

I don't think anybody has paid any attention to my Oka case, including Oka himself, even though he asked for it

I'm waiting on a decent explanation from Hawk, who refuses to work with me, also partly why he's holding more than a 10%.

The way it works for me, and it should for Oka and Hawk too, is that:
1 scum in droog/adrien
1 scum in Oka/Hawk (replace accordingly from Oka's and Hawk's perspective)

Which is why Oka + Hawk = 100% and droog + adrien = 100%

If Oka isn't scum, Hawk is. If droog isn't scum, adrien is.

droog and adrien could be crosbussing, which could be a thing, but I'm not sure there's any evidence to slightly suggest that.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:46 am

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In post 1011, OkaPoka wrote:okay lets lynch Xay now?

Case me
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:58 pm

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im back : )
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:02 pm

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In post 998, OkaPoka wrote:Can I have a readlist from everybody?


scum > adrien > xay > pro > oka > town
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:32 pm

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Well, you two aren't convincing me on who is scum out of Droog and Adrien, soooo

Xay, because I am too lazy to go look at your old posts, make a quick summary of why Oka is scum for me.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:35 pm

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In post 1018, ProHawk wrote:Well, you two aren't convincing me on who is scum out of Droog and Adrien, soooo


do you want me to try the case a third time
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:39 pm

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lol, not if the case has anything to do with Adrien lied, cause I am pretty sure you failed that route last time
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:40 pm

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what about his kerfuffle with nm
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:48 pm

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In post 709, Xayzeck wrote: Says rosey town
Prohawk makes a good point, Oka doesn't address it. He votes Prohawk for jumping off the wagon, which is ok, and he backs up his ZZZX vote by "you voted him too" which makes absolutely no sense. Also doesn't answer the question at all, so his answer is almost completely unrelated. Logically for town you scumhunt on the townwagons, why isn't he doing that here? Because his buddy is on it? Maybe.
Around here is where I bring up Okameta, and I only do so because I've played with him before. Typically, he's more aggro and upbeat as town, and more lazy and quiet as scum. Logically, you'd try to emulate your town meta, and I'd imagine that's why so many people commented about his overaggroness early game, probably him overcompensating. Since then though, I'm sure most of you have noticed his play has died down to just about only defending himself and just lurking about. There are some pretty stark differences between his town and scum meta, and here's the big point: As town, he'd bloody love it. If anybody doubts him, AND they're using a metatell on him as town, he knows to god that logically he should be read as town, and if he isn't, then whoever is metatelling him is probably twisting. He knows I know his meta fairly well, and I can easily back this up with some of his games, hell I'm sure he's mentioned them too in this game. So once I bring up meta, his immediate reaction is to deny metatells, and sell them off as useless or unreliable, because he knows it won't work in his favour. TownOka may do the same, but he'd welcome it if anything. ScumOka will deny the hell out of it.
All perfect examples of his play dying out, lots of fluff, lots of oneliners, lots of half assing. Also the way he pulls of Hawk, that's not town. Who in the world would just unvote they're scumread and say "ok you win you're town"? Every post before that doesn't look like he went through much or if not any convincing, he just backed off for no clear reason.
Read flip! "I want to lynch him even if he isn't scum" What's wrong with that? I recall a ton of ZZZX votes, saying you want to lynch him, and I'm sure as hell none of you could confidently say he was scum or town, you were all just voting because he lurked. This is perfectly fine, scummy to some, but it's amazing how you blew it up to the top of your scumlist, and what's this...
You literally just started scumreading her and then wanted to 1v1. What town does this? Let go of their scumread so easily, pick one up so quickly, and 1v1 over a small stance? This is not town, this is scum just doing whatever it can to get another lynch happening.
more fluff and uselessness
yay for naked votes.
a little more fluff
Again, he still insist on the 1v1. And nothing else but this, and fluff/lowcontent posts.
FSO is someone else who played in a game both Oka and I were in. This game, Oka has made references to players and past games we had, it bothers me the hell out. It counts as meta, and it's so disturbing, it's like early game he did this a bunch, maybe because he had that aggro start and wanted me to do meta to townread him.



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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:50 pm

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I bring up meta (suggests he is scum)

He denies it (also suggests he is scum)

Read flip on rosey, suggests 1v1 for no reason, doesn't let go

General half-assed posting, fluff, brings up games between him and I(this particular point doesn't suggest alignment, because I can't attach an alignment to it, but it's disturbing)

^that's your summary
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:52 pm

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Meta is silly, I don't really put a lot of stock in that.

His flips are odd and you may have a point there. You DEFINITELY have a point on the posting, fluff, etc which saddens me because I just can't get past his break-down being town.

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