Micro 387: Double Day Unlimited (GAME OVER)

[TheAdrienC]

I'm leaning towards Xaydeck and Droog, I'm more sure about droog than Xaydeck.

[droog]

So you think Oka or ProHawk could be scum?
Please exolain

[TheAdrienC]

Who is that directed at?

[droog]

you

[TheAdrienC]

I just said the opposite. I said I think you and Xaydeck are the scum, I'm slightly more sure that you are than he.

[ProHawk]

I'm more sure about droog than Xaydeck.

This doesn't make sense if you are town. Unless you are just doing exactly what you accused and voted N_M for

[ProHawk]

D1 mislynch on Flubber. All town? Yes or No.

Droog needs to answer this.

Everyone else needs to answer this.

[TheAdrienC]

I was just saying the two people I think are scum here and now is droog and Xaydeck and I think droog is a safer lynch than Xaydeck.

As for the first lynch, very, very unlikely it was all town. I'd wager at least one scum was on it.

[ProHawk]

Now explain to me how Droog is safer than Xay

[droog]

D1 mislynch on Flubber. All town? Yes or No.

Droog needs to answer this.

Everyone else needs to answer this.

sorry forgot this while yelling at everyone

not sure why you're asking me though
the only way no one was on flubber is if scumteam is adrien and prohawk

wait
this is a possibility i hadnt considered

[droog]

prohawk being scum with adrien is the only way adrien would be scum
and not have dual hammered yesterday

[droog]

Something doesn't add up
If it's not ProHawk then
Why didn't Oka or Xay dual hammer?

[droog]

Fuck me there is no such thing as dual hammer

[droog]

VOTE: unvote

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: unvote

why did you even vote in the first place.

Also Xay gimme a minute to look through some stuff

[OkaPoka]

how the hell do i try to emulate my town meta as scum?

Note chosen and newbie 1507 i was lurky, gerrymander i was playing trolly, and vengeful i did a suicide run.

So?

I didn't specifically say you emulate your townmeta as scum, I said logically(generally/typically/it makes the most sense to think that), you'd(this is a general you, not you specifically, so could be replaced with "people will") try to emulate townmeta as scum.

Chosen and Newbie would be you playing to your scum meta.

Gerrymander and Vengeful would be you avoiding your scum meta.

But remember that one newbie you crumbed tracker and shit got really messed up? You never denied your town meta, your aggression never died out, I even vaguely remember you bringing up your own townmeta after I started scumreading you. TownOka clearly has no problem, even if he strongly believe metatells are useless. As town, I openly welcome metatells, as scum I openly deny them and believe them to be unreliable, and as scum I only accept metatells from people I play with before, because that's the meta I believe should be used in games, not metatells from someone I don't even know.

Also, meta is not the only thing that makes me think you're scum, just fyi.

This is different. That game I was pr so it was necessary to stay alive no matter what. I was desperate. Usually I would have given up on the game. I had to keep my aggressiveness in order to feed town my reads.

Here I am town and vanilla. I don't have a claim to keep me alive. I am starting to shift my play style a bit so meta won't defend me. I am starting to dislike meta cases. I can only fight with what is in the game.

350 Says rosey town
382 Prohawk makes a good point, Oka doesn't address it. He votes Prohawk for jumping off the wagon, which is ok, and he backs up his ZZZX vote by "you voted him too" which makes absolutely no sense. Also doesn't answer the question at all, so his answer is almost completely unrelated. Logically for town you scumhunt on the townwagons, why isn't he doing that here? Because his buddy is on it? Maybe.
400 Around here is where I bring up Okameta, and I only do so because I've played with him before. Typically, he's more aggro and upbeat as town, and more lazy and quiet as scum. Logically, you'd try to emulate your town meta, and I'd imagine that's why so many people commented about his overaggroness early game, probably him overcompensating. Since then though, I'm sure most of you have noticed his play has died down to just about only defending himself and just lurking about. There are some pretty stark differences between his town and scum meta, and here's the big point: As town, he'd bloody love it. If anybody doubts him, AND they're using a metatell on him as town, he knows to god that logically he should be read as town, and if he isn't, then whoever is metatelling him is probably twisting. He knows I know his meta fairly well, and I can easily back this up with some of his games, hell I'm sure he's mentioned them too in this game. So once I bring up meta, his immediate reaction is to deny metatells, and sell them off as useless or unreliable, because he knows it won't work in his favour. TownOka may do the same, but he'd welcome it if anything. ScumOka will deny the hell out of it.
432 434 440 442 444 445 447 449 451 All perfect examples of his play dying out, lots of fluff, lots of oneliners, lots of half assing. Also the way he pulls of Hawk, that's not town. 455 Who in the world would just unvote they're scumread and say "ok you win you're town"? Every post before that doesn't look like he went through much or if not any convincing, he just backed off for no clear reason.
457 458 Read flip! "I want to lynch him even if he isn't scum" What's wrong with that? I recall a ton of ZZZX votes, saying you want to lynch him, and I'm sure as hell none of you could confidently say he was scum or town, you were all just voting because he lurked. This is perfectly fine, scummy to some, but it's amazing how you blew it up to the top of your scumlist, and what's this...
459 You literally just started scumreading her and then wanted to 1v1. What town does this? Let go of their scumread so easily, pick one up so quickly, and 1v1 over a small stance? This is not town, this is scum just doing whatever it can to get another lynch happening.
461 463 466 468 more fluff and uselessness
469 yay for naked votes.
474 485 a little more fluff
524 Again, he still insist on the 1v1. And nothing else but this, and fluff/lowcontent posts.
554 FSO is someone else who played in a game both Oka and I were in. This game, Oka has made references to players and past games we had, it bothers me the hell out. It counts as meta, and it's so disturbing, it's like early game he did this a bunch, maybe because he had that aggro start and wanted me to do meta to townread him.



I'm lazy, lunch is here.

1. I will admit I was fencesitting on rosey's alignment.
2. Oops?
3. Okay, when I am town I am aggressive. I like that. But you mis said a lot. I am never aggressive the entire game. The game with TSO and NM scum. I was never aggressive and was very watch from the sidelines. Game where Glass and Mallow came along, of course you think I am aggro, I got killed day 1. You can notice that I start to die in content as people begin accusing me.
4. I hate walls. I play very fluffy. Name a game where I did not have one liners or fluff. Oh wait.
5. I started falling into favor prohawk town. It really felt town to me, and sincere. Or prohawk is just that good.
6. I was being bitter, and rosey flipped on me. I got pretty mad and wanted to fight rosey in order to see what the case was really about. It feels like you left rosey dead to push your case on me.
7. I need stuff.
8. That's me!
9. Yay?
10. Look at me go!
11. Pretty hard to get content from me unless somebody forces it on me.
12. Trying to make it easier for you to understand.

Look at me post so much!

[droog]

VOTE: unvote

why did you even vote in the first place.

Also Xay gimme a minute to look through some stuff

i was working on the assumption that no dual hammer yesterday meant
one of adrien/xay had to be scum
or scum would have closed

which was wrong.

[droog]

still think adrien was likely scum for the reasons ive been saying all along

not 100% like i thought though. : |

[TheAdrienC]

Do we have anyone that we are in agreement might be scum? I'm seeing my name, droog, and Xay pop up a lot.

[TheAdrienC]

Now explain to me how Droog is safer than Xay

His play in LyLo section of this day phrase seemed really scummy to me. Shooting from the hip, refusing to take the vote off after being asked a lot...all of that seemed scummy to me.

[ProHawk]

As for the first lynch, very, very unlikely it was all town. I'd wager at least one scum was on it.

Droog wasn't on that lynch.

[TheAdrienC]

I said one scum, not both. Are you saying that maybe I should be leaning more Xaydeck than droog?

[ProHawk]

I am saying, if you think one scum was on the lynch, that leaves Oka and Xay.

If you are hunting off the lynch, that leaves Me, You, and Droog. I realize if you eliminate yourself it still gives you a 50/50, but then you have to convince one of the two of us, whereas with Oka and Xay its a definite 50/50 with Oka's towning up his almost eating rope, I don't think there is much question between which of the two is scum.

[ProHawk]

Although with Droog having left his vote on you for so long with no coordinated hammer almost guarantees one of you two as scum anyhow.

[ProHawk]

VOTE: unvote

Pretty sure this unvote doesn't count, might want to do it right, or not since one of you two is scum anyway and we aren't going to get a quick-hammer.