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Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:43 pm

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vote muffin

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Post Post #40 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:04 am

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Post Post #41 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:04 am

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vote: ythan

i am not a raccoon!
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Post Post #50 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:50 pm

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oh no not robo ;)
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Post Post #110 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:04 am

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this game is getting on my nerves
i attribute it to robocopter, who always manages to get on my nerves
i am wanting a more fun game
##vote robocopter87



i also disagree with the assesment on netopalis. we cannot use meta on a day 1 lynch in my opinion
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Post Post #122 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:28 pm

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robocoptor, can you link a game for me that you were scum?
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Post Post #188 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:52 pm

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Iecerint wrote:The parsimonious explanation is that scum saw that he would be quiclynched with Zerg Rush. They miscalculated because he happened to have a difference lynch threshold.

This theory is no good if RC posted elsewhere on the site AFTER the extra lynch vote claim and before RC's Zerg Rush post.

The alternate theory is that Roboscum has mischievously arranged these circumstances to make it appear that he has cleared himself. This is comparatively remote IMO.
I am inclined to believe him, and I am fairly certain we can find a better target for a lynch.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #7) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:53 pm

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Robocopter87 wrote:Well, you can't be 100% sure all the time. I understand. If someone else would be in my shoes I would be slightly suspicious.
who were you talking to?
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Post Post #190 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:58 pm

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1) Why do you play Mafia? I like the rush of being near a lynch, but hate it at the same time.

2) How many licks DOES it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop? I can't do it

3) Can you describe your thought processes leading into this game?
I'm trying to become a better player.

4) Let's say that you win the game. What conditions lead to that win? What qualities will the game have? Will it be ordered or chaotic, logical or gut-based, fast or drawn out? Most of my wins are achieved through ordered, logical play. I like breaking things down into their most simplest explanations and then working from there. I also tend to probe at one or two specific players until I get a good read on them, then shift my focus to someone who had previously been coasting by.

Hopefully it will be my finding scum that lead to the win :)

5) What is the square root of potato? not funny

6) Can you please link me to the one game that you're most proud of on this site? it was a marathon game

7) This is not a question. Your mother is a terrible cook.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:24 pm

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Netopalis wrote:Alright...let's assume that Robocopter is telling the truth. If the votes to lynch is reduced by one on him, then it does explain why he survived the Zerg Rush. What if this actually is an activated ability and an anti-town player activated it when they saw that a town player was within the range to be killed by it? That seems likely. We're actually rather lucky that it failed, and I do think it actually clears Robocopter.
Unvote
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I find the above post scummy, especially considering that Netopalis was the one who was going after Robo during the RVS. Where do you get your information, from, Netopalis? Mafia IRC? You seem to have a lot of information at your disposal, moreso than I do.

I haven't ever encountered an ability like what we saw earlier in this game, and I am really confused by it. I understand the lowering of a threshold for a lynch from L-3 to L-2 or whatever, but who would think to put that into their game?

My current suspects list are:
Netopalis for his knowing so much
millar13 because he has terrible grammar
Ythan for being unpleasant
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Post Post #237 (isolation #10) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:25 pm

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i'll add mindgamer to the list if he doesn't get replaced, and has been lurking
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Post Post #258 (isolation #11) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:50 pm

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millar13 wrote:Basically; i am fully confident in my spot. The use of "Grammar" being the reason I am scummy is weak. That is almost like 'Furcolow' shouting; im a member of the scum-team and ive actually lost reasons other than to make on that exists; but isn't legitimate. If you could make money from predictions; i would put money that he is defo scum.
i'm not scum. i'll let you stick to your IRC with Netopalis and STTB
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Post Post #259 (isolation #12) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:52 pm

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Iecerint wrote:My top single suspect up to this point is Millar. I think his vote for Robotown was the most bizarre, and I think his play in the aftermath makes little sense.

My second-tier is Neto-S2B as a scumpair. First, Neto weakly attacks S2B out of nowhere. Then, S2B calls him out for "distancing" with me. In light of other things that have happened, these seems like an unusual place for one's focus. It's also an odd choice of words. For example, Neto and I hadn't attacked one another at all, so saying that we're distancing from one another is totally bogus. It reads like "Let's distance!" "LOL OK!" to me.

I'll be in rural Kentucky this weekend visiting family. I may not have regular access to the computer.
V/LA until Monday
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Where at in rural Kentucky?
I live in rural Kentucky.
I also see the Neto-millar-S2B connection, but I'm really confused as to how this game has been going. There has been a lot of information in a game that by all means should still be in the RVS.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #13) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:59 pm

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I love the RVS :)
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Post Post #263 (isolation #14) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:02 pm

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what the hell??
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Post Post #265 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:16 pm

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explain your vote on me ythan. this is unacceptable.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #16) » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:37 am

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Netopalis wrote:Anyway, yeah. Shotty to the Body needs to die. Case previously posted.
well, this puts a damper in my opinion of who is the scum team. I honestly felt like you two were scumbuddies.
Netopalis wrote:I actually really like that case on Millar. Very good points there, Muffin. The deadline discussion he posted does bolster the argument too. I'd support looking into Millar...

Un-FOS, FOS: Millar
I agree with you here. I feel like he might not be town, and my heart is all I have to go on here. He just seems
too defensive
. That + the fact that he was the last vote onto robo before that crazy shit happened that i don't understand whatsoever means that either a) he is scum or b) he was framed.

I'm leaning towards A.

Robocopter87 wrote:Most of it was him dissing Millar. He was more into personal attacks than focusing on what Millar was saying his posts. Muffin purposely tried to paint Millar as total scum.

I know I'm chainsaw defending him but lying is antitown.
aligning yourself with millar here is suspicious to me, especially with him voting you right before all that happened, and you all knowing that your "lynch threshold" I believe it was was higher than it appeared with that. This comment is making me feel like you all set us up as a town.
Muffin wrote:So I take it that you think millar has done substantial scumhunting and produced a lot of protown content.
I don't.
Dude's scummy and worthy of a policy lynch even if he's town
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Post Post #333 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:52 am

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Ythan wrote:
Netopalis wrote:Folks....Furcolow is making no sense. I get that. But, I'm not sure that we can say that he's scum for that. We need to figure out if he's a VI or if he's scum. To me, I can't think of a possible scum motivation for his actions as of yet, but I need to review his other games to see if he's always this nonsensical.
Prolonging RVS is anti-town. OMGUS is scummy.
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Ythan wrote:Defending millar? Let's hope you got me mixed up with someone else.
You're saying posts 119 and 232 aren't you defending millar?
Let's take a look at your reasoning.
Kdub wrote:I'm feeling worse and worse about Ythan's play. He's been defending millar too much for my liking.
I attacked your weak case twice. Instead of trying to shore it up you're using that to try to paint me as defending millar. Yeah I think you're full of it and reaching.
Some OMGUS
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town. Are you DENYING that? If so, I completely disagree. I know a guy I play with on another website that ALWAYS does that when he is town, and I'm the same way.
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Robocopter87 wrote:I disagree. This game hasn't been about scumhunting rather speculation due to the Zerg Rush, he has provided content. He has scumhunted as much as anyone else.
Do you think speculating about the nature of the zerg rush (kekeke) is pro town? In my opinion it's wasted effort. it puzzles me too, but I'm not paralyzed by confusion like it seems other players are. I see an interesting game mechanic, take note of it, and move on. Speculating back and forth as to the nature of the zerg rush (kekekeke) is fine from an academic standpoint but it's not going to get us anywhere as a town.
You want us to move on from the most important thing that has happened in this game so far? Is it because you are afraid someone is going to make a connection to you? I am of a mind to say that it is, and that this points to you, and that is why you "want us to move on".
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Post Post #338 (isolation #18) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:21 am

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Robocopter87 wrote:
Furcolow wrote: Some OMGUS
ARE
town. Are you DENYING that? If so, I completely disagree. I know a guy I play with on another website that ALWAYS does that when he is town, and I'm the same way.
He never said OMGUS don't come from town but rather that OMGUS is a anti town behavior.
well, if it is a play-style you take when you are town, then it is a building block for people to realize you are town, and therefore can be pro-town.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:32 am

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Muffin wrote:
Furcolow wrote:
Muffin wrote:
Robocopter87 wrote:I disagree. This game hasn't been about scumhunting rather speculation due to the Zerg Rush, he has provided content. He has scumhunted as much as anyone else.
Do you think speculating about the nature of the zerg rush (kekeke) is pro town? In my opinion it's wasted effort. it puzzles me too, but I'm not paralyzed by confusion like it seems other players are. I see an interesting game mechanic, take note of it, and move on. Speculating back and forth as to the nature of the zerg rush (kekekeke) is fine from an academic standpoint but it's not going to get us anywhere as a town.
You want us to move on from the most important thing that has happened in this game so far? Is it because you are afraid someone is going to make a connection to you? I am of a mind to say that it is, and that this points to you, and that is why you "want us to move on".
Please explain to me how speculating back and forth on the nature of the Zerg Rush (kekekeke) will help us find scum.
i didn't say that. don't put words in my mouth. i was fishing for information. if anything, it tells us who scum aren't (robocopter, myself, even millar to an extent), as it was done to raise suspicions, but at the least it has lead to some town solidification, thus, it hasn't really been negative on us.

I am fairly sure that millar isn't scum based upon him calling down. I am going to put my vote on
spyrex
until I hear more from him and can get an opinion on the nature of his player-slot.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:32 am

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unvote
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Post Post #342 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:32 am

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fail :)

(fixed, and counted)
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Post Post #343 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:33 am

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Robocopter87 wrote:No. No no no.
OMGUS is extremely scummy. Voting someone for the main purpose that they voted you with a reason is scummy. I understand voting someone back when you have a legit reason to vote them back but OMGUS is different. It is Antitown.
not at all. it depends on the player.
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Post Post #344 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:33 am

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we are arguing over opinion, btw.
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Post Post #346 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:45 am

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look, i'm willing to admit you might not be scum. i do not need to justify my voting to you, i am town, you might be town, back off me if you aren't scum
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Post Post #347 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:52 am

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I was about to focus on Iecerint, as I haven't heard from him, but he's V/LA
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Post Post #349 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:01 pm

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hold on
get that vote on me, until i can see where i'm at, scum can hammer
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Post Post #351 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:03 pm

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well, i suppose i should claim, in case i'm at L-1
I am Tanya Adams, who I have no idea who that is. I looked it up, and apparently it is a command and conquer character. I'm not really into command and conquer. I can check what abilities people have twice a game, so you all might make use of me.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:04 pm

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if you want to lynch our detective on day 1 go for it. lord knows i've done that before.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #29) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:10 pm

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knowledgeable millar :), surprising.
I have another ability, but I'd like to keep that a secret, as it doesn't really affect anyone. (no, it isn't a treestump)
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Post Post #357 (isolation #30) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:15 pm

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buddy, get out of here with that shit. i am just fucking telling you who i am, and that i can "interrogate" people. i can't see alignments, i can see people's abilities. i'm not 100% a cop, but i am confirmable town. if i get myself killed tonight by scum, what the fuck ever, i'd rather us have a chance to lynch fucking scum instead of you fucks mislynching me.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:25 pm

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You are a "Mercenary Agent", why?
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Post Post #361 (isolation #32) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:26 pm

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he said it in green and said i'm good
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Post Post #364 (isolation #33) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:20 pm

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vote: netopalis
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Post Post #367 (isolation #34) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:34 pm

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unvote
confirm vote: netopalis


I have a plan. If there is a watcher or tracker role out there you should follow me when I use my ability check on someone. I will use it on Ythan tonight
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Post Post #379 (isolation #35) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:36 pm

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they don't have to waste them on me either, because i don't get lynched as scum, and i
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Post Post #382 (isolation #36) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:54 pm

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Netopalis wrote:And neither of you have considered changing and/or improving your play?
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Post Post #385 (isolation #37) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:40 pm

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ythan, if you had been around when that zerg rush thing happened, i bet you would have hammered. muffin, millar, and robocopter were the ones who were on at that time.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #38) » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:52 pm

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meaning you are somebody's scumbuddy, buddy, and it sure as hell ain't mine.
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Post Post #395 (isolation #39) » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:31 am

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"1. How does confirmation that you have a non-alignment based Cop scan indicate you are not scum?
2. How does you plan to be watched / tracked, even if it is properly executed, prove you aren’t scum?
3. Why when discussing who was around for the Zerg attack do you specifically exclude bv310 and Iec from your list? Both posted within 20 minutes of Reaper’s Zerg posting."

1: I'm telling you my alignment and role, I don't know what else to do other than that. Believe me, or not, I am good.
2. I saw this in another game... mafia in mendo I think... and it really helped the town. I'm just throwing out ideas to help with this.
3. I didn't notice bv310/iecerint being online during that time, as i looked more before it happened on the same page and perhaps on the one before a little. i just noticed those 3 people. hell, just because they posted, doesn't mean it was any of those 3.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #40) » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:32 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Robocopter87 wrote:
MoI wrote:@Robo – Please share your thoughts on millar.
I thought I made it quite clear that I didn't think he was scum with my chainsaw defense.
You see his play and don't think in anyway it resembles scummy play?

:shock:
does it have to be a mutual chainsaw defense to guess alignments based upon one flipping, or is that still not that good? I know it wouldn't be exact, but say robocopter is scum, and is defending millar like this. Millar is likely mafia then, right?
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Post Post #397 (isolation #41) » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:33 am

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if that would work, could we lynch robo to see millar's alignment?
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Post Post #398 (isolation #42) » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:33 am

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that doesn't make sense. i don't like this chainsaw thing.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:44 am

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an you explained how it will help the Town? I see the following scenario.

1. You scan Ythan with your non-alignment proven power.
2. If we have a Watcher or Tracker they confirm you did so.
3. You tell us what power Ythan has.
4. If Ythan dies we have to decide if you are the one that killed him.
5. If Ythan doesn’t die we see whether he states you are lying about your ‘scan’
6. ?????
7. Profit.

Seriously how does this help town? It will not tell us if you are Scum or Town since an Ability cop could easily be a power from either side. It potentially outs a Watcher or Tracker for no real benefit. It will not confirm anything but perhaps what Ythan’s power is. And knowing that will not for tell us anything concrete about his alignment.
Are you saying that in no way does this confirm that myself and the watcher are working towards helping the town? I am not good at theories, but I have seen this happen and the watcher ended up seeing mafia make a hit or something similar. I'm pretty sure BV was in that game, and I know I died in the night like I probably will this game, so perhaps he could rectify what happened. I do see that the alignment vs roles makes it a little bit more difficult in terms of confirmation, but we could use roles to out someone. If I check Ythan, and he has a zerg rush ability..... yea. Just sayin'.

24. Hey, random thought secondary to Robo's Furco push. I was reflecting on the plausibility of Tanya being a fakeclaim. But. Sarah Kerrigan is a witch from an RTS. Tanya appears to be a sort of Chaotic Neutral-tier witch from an RTS. So...that aspect does fit.
26. I don't understand Furco's explanation for removing bv and me from the "maybe Sarah Kerrigan" list. Also, please clarify the point of the list to me if I misunderstand it. Also, keep in mind that there was probably a lag between "sent in action" and "RC posted action."
Iecerint, didn't you just travel to Kentucky? Where did you go if so?
I did not fakeclaim, I have not ever fakeclaimed. I've explained not having you or BV on the list. I did not notice your names being active near the ability being used. I did not consider their being a delay, as RC is an active mod. Hope this clears that up :)
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I want him dead.
My votes on him. So We just lynch him? Well, I'll gladly see his body hanging on a rope in this game.

I agree with this line of thinking. I do this all the time. You can use this sort of gut feeling to point yourself in the right direction. Unfortunately, if you are a town player, and fingering another town player, and using this kind of 'logic', scum can agree with you, providing no reason like you, and the town has no way to provide defense to the argument. I know this from experience, as I have pushed wagons based upon my gut as town that have ended up lynching detectives. This is what you are doing. You doing this makes the town ripe for bandwagons. Give some evidence for who you want to kill. Without evidence, you make it too easy for scum to take advantage of your gut. I know you don't like me, and that's fine, but I am not an idiot.

Consider that my gut is screaming that you are mafia. Millar to some degree as well. Unfortunately, if you two are mafia, we're probably fucked. I therefore play as though you are town despite my instinct. Your gut is screaming I am mafia, but I am the detective, and you should consider playing as though I am town despite your instinct.

To go on about those who are 'confirmed' town, MoI also gets a pass in this respect since he has been providing very good posts and his behavior can be held accountable if he has a dropoff in quality. I feel that Iecerint is probably town with me as well. I am not sure about Spyrex, Ythan, Kdub, or Netopalis.

For now my vote will go onto STTB
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My reasoning is his inactivity and lurkiness in relation to the fact that he is being discussed as a lynch victim. If he was going to help us he would be providing more content.

If anyone has questions about my actions and cares to frame them in a manner better than their 'gut', I would be glad to respond.
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Post Post #446 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:50 pm

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Spryrex is a "veteran"? first time i've heard reference to it. I always can typically pick them out, or people who are helful, but I wouldn't have thought it of his as much as I would someone like Iecerint or Ythan
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Post Post #466 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:41 am

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i don't really feel like we should focus on "who should have this or that ability" until i can investigate and find someone who has the zerg rush ability
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Post Post #487 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:32 am

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you all realize we shouldn't no lynch, right?
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Post Post #537 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:30 pm

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i've been fairly busy with real life, and have been having relationship problems. :(
who should i investigate tonight?
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Post Post #571 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:51 am

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i am good, and if you all don't trust me what the fuck ever
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Post Post #573 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:05 am

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look ive had it up to here with this shit. go ahead and mislynch me. i really don't give two shits.

if you all do a) i'm doing a
if you all do b) i'm doing b

i'm going to react you all.
if you all lynch me, i'm going to laugh at how bad the town played letting people like shotty, millar, or ythan run free and be scummy
if you all dont lynch me, i'm going to see what powers shotty, millar, or ythan has
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Post Post #574 (isolation #50) » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:09 am

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robo you piss me off with your little one liners and inability to actually make a case on someone. ythan, bv310, same way. this town is so bad i'm ready to replace out, because mafia have surely beaten us if we don't come together. iecerint is being stupid with conspiracy theories and tunneling on me whenever he was away during half the shit he's tunneling on. i can't remember a single thing kdub has done to help us out. magnaofillusion is about the only one who has done anything worthwhile, but i know his analysis has been wrong when it has come to me. i wouldn't even care to be mislynched in this game, really, the more that i think about it. i would regret not being able to use my cool 2 powers i have, but there will always be another game in which i am a blue role for the town. the last time i was a blue role for the town, believe it or not, i used my ability to stop 2/4 cult recruitments so i know for a fact i am good at helping the town at night, but you guys obviously don't know me. just go ahead and lynch me
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Post Post #576 (isolation #51) » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:00 am

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more voting without any case, justification, or lack of scumminess from you
the more you go on playing this way the more i am inclined to believe that shit that happened earlier in the day was a ploy
i love how when i make fun of your terrible play you subsequently vote for me
youre so anti town
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Post Post #621 (isolation #52) » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:03 am

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Robocopter87 wrote:It matters no longer if he is Town. He is SUPER detrimental to the Town right not. Players like him cannot be alive in LyLo or the town
Will
lose. He needs to go, whether through replacement, modkilling, or lynch, or NK. But he needs to go. Fast.
the last lylo i was in i got policy lynched when i had a stalk on the remaining cult (if the town wouldn't have fucked with me, we would have won) players like YOU, robo, are the reason this website has terrible town-play. policy police and naziism like you push stifles discussion and makes blue players like myself hard pressed to coordinate with the rest of the town
Ythan wrote:
Ythan wrote:Have you considered that the inclusion of certain characters in the banner may lend credence to some claims over others?
You think that this is scummy? As for the other thing, if that's the way you feel then tough shit I'm not going to make you feel any different. When you're done talking about what you get a sense of then we can talk.
This right here is scummy as hell, and is what happens when people push policy lynches. The person who is REALLY scum sits behind a wall of active lurking like bv310 or ythan. Then there are the dumb scum players like millar.
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Furcolow wrote:more voting without any case, justification, or lack of scumminess from you
the more you go on playing this way the more i am inclined to believe that shit that happened earlier in the day was a ploy
i love how when i make fun of your terrible play you subsequently vote for me
youre so anti town
LOL I love the implication that voting for you equals anti-town play. You want to know what's anti town? Pretty much the entirety of your play so far. The fact that you get so worked up into a frenzy means that even if you ARE town, you still need to not be in this game because we're going to get focused on you and your terrible answers, your inability to make a case, and the way that seemingly your only response is to start getting personal when you get cornered. Even if you are town, you aren't helping us. You're doing scum a favor by presenting such an enormous policy-lynch target that scum can just agree with the lynch on you and sneak past our scrutiny to D2.

Congratulations, you've officially done more harm than good to this town. If you don't want to get lynched then you need to turn your play 180 degrees right the fuck now.

1) No more crying, woe-is-me appeals to emotion, no more personal attacks
2) Do some legitimate scumhunting
3) Stop pretending to be confirmed town.
I got policy lynched in lylo before. policy lynching is the dumbest concept ever created. you DON'T lynch someone when they're town. you lynch someone who probably ISN'T town like millar
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so if you do decided to lynch me; your idiots
this post = scum
die scum die

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Post Post #623 (isolation #53) » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:12 am

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are you? you're just mad because you're his scum buddy.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #54) » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:46 pm

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Robocopter87 wrote:
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Robocopter87 wrote:It matters no longer if he is Town. He is SUPER detrimental to the Town right not. Players like him cannot be alive in LyLo or the town
Will
lose. He needs to go, whether through replacement, modkilling, or lynch, or NK. But he needs to go. Fast.
the last lylo i was in i got policy lynched when i had a stalk on the remaining cult (if the town wouldn't have fucked with me, we would have won) players like YOU, robo, are the reason this website has terrible town-play. policy police and naziism like you push stifles discussion and makes blue players like myself hard pressed to coordinate with the rest of the town
With kunkstar7 right? He's my bro, told me about that game. Exactly the reason I posted the way I did. Because since you act so stupid, you get policy lynched in LyLo. And lose the game for the town. Town play doesn't suck in this website. You've probably lost every game because you flip out so much and get lynched for being an idiot as town. And you hammered someone. Why do you act like this? Your just a selfish, stubborn, AtE player and have proved yourself as such in every game I've seen you.
the fact that players like you push on players like me is why this website is terrible for town play. I have a VERY high rate of catching scum. You should take notes.
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Post Post #691 (isolation #55) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:06 am

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Muffin wrote:
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confirm vote: netopalis


I have a plan. If there is a watcher or tracker role out there you should follow me when I use my ability check on someone. I will use it on Ythan tonight
Did this happen?
my ability got stolen last night. I only have 1 use of it left, and I couldn't use it last night, because i was roleblocked when it was stolen. If Ythan was visited last night, it wasn't by me, so it was likely a doctor. I am up in the air on whether or not the ghost Kerrigan was scum or not. I really wouldn't put the same character in a game twice. Could Samus Aran have been scum? I'm not that familiar with metroidal alignment.

FoS on Ythan until you explain to us how you know you were visited
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Post Post #692 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:13 am

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vote: MoI

likely lurking scum
also, i want to hear more from bv310
he had been afk all game lol jk :)
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Post Post #710 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:38 am

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he doesn't need to defend me u and shotty are scum buddies trying to push a policy lynch
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Post Post #713 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:46 am

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OK, that's true, but that doesn't really answer or even address my questions.

Is your flavor discussion of human/infested Kerrigan relevant to this game itself in some way, or are you just complaining about the flavor implementation? Assuming the former, please clarify your position. I am having to doublethink hardcore to understand it. The scenarios I listed in my prior post are examples of the bizarre results of said doublethink.
I grok that term, but as a result, I dislike it; it isn't pleasing; it leaves an awful taste in my mouth/back of my throat. I agree that we need to be open to possibilities, but unless we have a coroner type ability, I don't see how we're going to be able to confirm anything here.

Let's assume this is one of the worse scenarios for us:
it would either be 5v3v1
6v3
or 6v2v1

if it's 5v3v1, and you all lynch me, and we have a SK in the game with us, the scum can be down to 3v3v1. If there isn't an sk, which would mean there is a vigilante who hit someone (unless the scum can kill 2 people every night, which i highly doubt), then we are in much better shape. Assuming that there isn't an SK, it would be 6v3, in which case when we lynch Robo, Kdub, or Ythan and they flip town, we would be at 5v3 with a mafia kill tomorrow night making it 4v3 which is still lylo scenario tomorrow.

We really need to get our acts together, guys.
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Shotty to the Body wrote:The human kerrigan bothers me as well so I see Ythan's point, but there aren't any other females in SC that control Zerg as far as I know so is he scum or not is debatable, filing away the possibility for good and evil variations of characters to exist in this game. I also didn't realize we wouldn't get alignment reveals, makes it difficult to know if you're even winning....
Shotty are you going to be more active today? Over 28 pages you've only made a grand total of 12 posts.
Yes well between V/LA status and modding I've been pretty good. At any rate, yes, I think it'll be better today. Where did Iec go he never answered my question, Furcolow is obviously suspect for his hammer, did I miss anything else?
this post is scum trying to push a policy lynch, which is a popular play these days. Sarah Kerrigan is one of the most evil bitches to ever live. I'm probably the biggest Starcraft fan in the world. You can ask me ANYTHING about that game lol. :)

I agree with Muffin here to be questioning shotty. He has good logic.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:52 am

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Hey Ythan when we lynch you don't cry ok
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Post Post #718 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:55 am

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bv310, MoI, and Kdub are all possible lurky scum in my opinion. I'm eager to see if bv will actually be active like he said, but if he isn't, we can hold him accountable for that. Robocoptor is my strongest town read.
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Post Post #719 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:56 am

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I don't know what's in the game, at all, bro, i'm preparing for the possibilities so we don't get overrun
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Post Post #721 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:59 am

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doesnt omgus require a vote bro
i'm tired of your one liner play which i've seen scum utilize. i'm tired of you not scumhunting. i'm tired of you being an asshole.
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Post Post #723 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:03 am

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Much more likely to string you up than me. If you knew anything about Starcraft, the best game in the world, you would realize Kerrigan is an evil bitch. If that's the case, we're at 7v2 with a vig, or 6v2v1 with an SK, which is basically F11. Excuse me for not knowing all of your policy lynch oriented terms that make this site absolutely terrible for town play in pushing mislynches on players that don't play the way others want them to even in lynch or lose scenarios sometimes (see stars aligned II).
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Post Post #728 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:14 am

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despite me not liking robo, I am fairly certain he is town. Ythan has a post style that, though scum may use it, reminds me of how kunkstar7 plays town. I'm going to say that where I see "A" is town with an experienced player, and where he is performing "A", he is likely town. I am not familiar with Muffin, but he has been attacking many people and spamming, so I am leaning town on him. Iecerint went v/la, hasn't been helping, and is causing some chaos with his insane theories, so I'm leaning scum on him, but am not ready to vote him over it. MoI struck me as town, but my heart is telling me that he might be scum... very possibly... with how he has been acting today by not doing anything productive. Is he V/LA? If I don't hear from him, I'll move him down, but I'm going to put him with Iecerint for now. Like I said, Muffin I'm leaning town, Kdub and bv310 I'm neutral on until they post more.


Town:
Furcolow
robocopter87
Ythan
Muffin

Neutral, leaning town:
Kdub
bv310

Neutral, leaning scum:
Iecerint
MoI

Likely scum:
Shotty to the Body
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Post Post #730 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:15 am

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Iecerint wrote:She's a sweetie before being Infested, though, and she's apparently going to be let free in the sequel being released in like 6 days (!!!).

There are lots of reasons to suspect Ythan, and his continued dismissal and negation of all attacks against him is not a pro-town strategy. Calling it "his prostyle" is also bogus, because I've read games where he won scummies as a wallposter (as scum, but ye know) IIRC.

On the other hand, whatever in the world possessed Furco to want to lynch MoI is sort of beyond me. I'm more sympathetic to bv and kdub, though.
I missed this post before I posted. I completely agree with you here, and this makes me suspect you a lot less than I just did. I suspect MoI for reasons I just highlighted. It's very mild, and I really don't have a great candidate for lynching. Everytime I've really tried to scumhunt to help out in a game it lynches a townie lol
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Post Post #734 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:17 am

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no, i'm not. go read the end of stars aligned II and compare kunk to ythan here
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Post Post #735 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:18 am

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pure angry trolling town imo
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Post Post #736 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:18 am

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unless hes mafia or sk doing a REALLY good acting job
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Post Post #738 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:26 am

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if youre sayin u tried to vig hit me then you need to just say it. it really would have fucked us, that's for sure.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:30 am

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what page 1 thing?
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Post Post #742 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:31 am

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Robocopter87 wrote:No, not Vig, you though i def would have if I could have.

And I don't think that would have messed us up at ALL.
Why are you so ready to sacrifice a townie? The more and more you keep unjustifiably attacking me, the more and more i'm going to laugh. You are pretty much a confirmed townie to me, so I'm not even going to bother attacking you, it's not worth it for us.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:38 am

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if kerrigan was scum, and was an overmind for zerg, and used the zerg rush ability on you day 1, im the only reason we're even in as good of a position we're in right now. i am not a townie this game, but if someone steals my ability again night 2, i might as well fuckin be. you piss me off so bad, and what makes it worse, i have to be resigned to the fact that you're not scum whenever my heart is telling me you are due to your situation on day 1 when millar/ythan/whoever tried to get you lynched. i'm like 99 fucking percent sure it was millar, since he's fucking kerrigan.

bv310 kdub or shotty are all much better lynches than i am. to me, even you are a better lynch than i am, which is why i put myself on top of my town list. i know i'm town. i don't KNOW you're.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #73) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:39 am

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Edit: page 1 thing was when Ythan was like HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT CLAIMS NOT ON THE BANNER MAY NOT BE BELIEVED in-thread. Scum would be more worried about the a priori plausibility of their fakeclaims than town of their rolenames IMO.
can you put this into language that i understand?
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Post Post #750 (isolation #74) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:02 am

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yeah, i'm a cop. you're dumb.
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Post Post #751 (isolation #75) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:03 am

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i'm sure unless our moderator is a liar.
kdub and bv have been lurking all game, not just day 2
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Post Post #753 (isolation #76) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:06 am

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Yes. That doesn't mean I would be sad to lynch either of them. They are all 3 lurker scum, or inactive.
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Post Post #755 (isolation #77) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:30 am

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Yes.
Lurking day 1 imo can be a blue role/power role for town
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Post Post #762 (isolation #78) » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:15 pm

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millar13 wrote:FU FURC!
angry scum that got owned cc
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Post Post #817 (isolation #79) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:16 pm

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if there was a mass roleblock, how the hell was my ability stolen?
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Post Post #819 (isolation #80) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:19 am

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why did you suggest a mass roleblock bv310?
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Post Post #852 (isolation #81) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:14 pm

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i'd retort, but i don't like feeding trolls
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Post Post #859 (isolation #82) » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:35 am

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I am completely ignoring Ythan. I don't feed trolls, sorry. When he wants to grow up, and start behaving like a man, then I will consider responding to him. Robocopter, you are embarrassed about getting "laid" on a mafia game. It's awkward to you because of your immaturity. I would like you to explain that, and furthermore, if you visited me last night, I have a suspicion that you're the one who stole my ability you little thief.

I just looked back at the millar wagon, and shotty was on it, so I'm not as adamant about my vote on him anymore. Unless millar was a serial killer, or town, I'm fairly certain shotty isn't mafia unless he is one to stab someone in the back. Does anyone have any information as to whether shotty is capable of this? It seems dumb to me to shoot yourself in the foot like that.

is millar a terrible player? I remember loving him as a moderator during the marathon day. I do not feel like he is a shitty player. His play
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i am going to vote robocopter, not for omgus, but because i don't really like the way these thoughts of him being scum are coming into my head. i am going to follow my heart on this one.

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Post Post #905 (isolation #83) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:33 am

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i'll check shotty, but i would really rather check robo, as him having around 4 abilities is a hell of a lot more than what i have. the reason ythan wants to lynch me is the reason i really want to lynch him. I guarantee he is scum, and even if he isn't his shit is all fluff and is completely unbeneficial to us as a town.

Shotty's play is ever increasingly town to me. Couple that with the fact that many good town-aligned power roles are relatively inactive and hush-hush on day one, and i'm ready to straight up believe his claim. How about, instead of me checking him, I check robo since he has claimed abilities, too? Shotty can call his shot on someone, and then we get a lot more information than before (a dead player, confirmation that I am a rolecop [assuming i'm not a scumbuddy with robo, in which case, I would have fucking replaced out], robocopter's powers, and the knowledge that shotty can kill). I like that idea a lot more than the one proposed by MoI, but I guess i'm just seeking a reason to lynch robo because I don't like him :)

The real problem I have with my role is that I will not know 100% that someone is on our side :(. It helps us get to where we can lynch liars, though, so that's good. I feel that the best way for our town to go forward is to minimize the spamming . What do you all think about an Ythan lynch? His negativity is really detracting our play as a town.
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Post Post #906 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:34 am

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unvote;
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Post Post #934 (isolation #85) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:50 pm

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Iecerint wrote:Yo Furco -- did you ever confirm whether your ability was PERMANENTLY stolen? Like, are you even currently a rolecop? Cuz your wordchoice sort-of implies no, but I think your actions imply otherwise IIRC.

I have no meta on Ythan, so I'll trust MoI's take that Ythan is just kind of crabby and not helpful. This makes me think Kdub is more likely scum, though.
I have one use of my ability left, as one was stolen
2. The owner of said “ability” can confirm that they used on Furc twice.
Why the fuck would they confirm that if they're scum trying to get you dumbfucks to lynch me?
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Post Post #937 (isolation #86) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:56 pm

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Ythan and Robo, you guys really need to post content. Bv310, Kdub, Shotty you really need to quit lurking, or be more active for us as a town. MoI/Iecerint/Muffin you guys are fine right now. I know I haven't been as active as I would like, but I really want us to come together and win this.

We could really be hurting right now, if there are 3 scum left, so we need to get our acts together tonight. I would really like a claim from who stole my ability, but I guarantee it was scum. Wouldn't shotty benefit from claiming vig if he's really SK? this flip style is such that we wouldn't even know, either. Couldn't mafia have a one time vig type role, too? I don't see how it's 99.9%, and disagree with it being that confirmed, but I'll definitely see what abilities he has tonight.

Whoever are the scum are definitely going to be pushing for my lynch, as that is the way scum play. They'll probably follow occam's razor, or whatever that is called. They'll have to lie about me being scum, and hopefully we catch them up in it.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #87) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:57 pm

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two more one liners devoid of any content. I do not see how you two can ever justify policy lynching ANYONE the way you all play. You two are among the worst players I have ever played with, and if you all are town with me, I am going to facepalm.
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Post Post #939 (isolation #88) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:58 pm

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I'm going out for the night, smell you guys later. Noone lynch Ythan until he claims.
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #89) » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:38 pm

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Robocopter87 wrote:We don't lose a day if the Beloved Princess is NK'ed. But, they do say that the BP should claim ASAP in the beginning.
Who is this they you are talking about? The Wiki? If so stop posting Wiki information as if it's the Bible. A Beloved claiming immediately is just the same as a Miller -- there is debate about the wisdom in either case.

I suggest everyone take a good look at Robocopter while mulling over Ythan's claim.
i took a good look at you while mulling over ythan's claim, and i have to say that if you are scum you have nuts.
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #90) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:18 am

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on the first night i was visited by a hot girl, and was role
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blocked. The second night I decided to use my other ability, which was to go into hiding for a night. The more I'm looking at this game, the more I am suspicious of MoI, especially with what happened in that harry potter game.
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #91) » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:20 am

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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... lect=12987
seriously, he's posting the exact same way he does as scum
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #92) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:37 am

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so muffin is insane?
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #93) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:38 am

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Iecerint wrote:By first and second night, do you mean 2nd and 3rd...?
first of the two and second of the two if i said it that way
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #94) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:00 am

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@Mod: when roleblocked does that take away my 2nd investigate?
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #95) » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:01 am

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vote: MoI
I see no difference between this game and the game I played with you as scum, so you are probably scum
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #96) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:13 pm

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Kdub wrote:Going to take some time to think about Magna's claim. It's a lot of info to take in. With that said, I have a few concerns/questions that various people might be able to shed light on:

1. Ability thief seems like a possible scum role, especially considering that it also roleblocks. I'm also a bit wary of the fact that Magna was able to both steal AND use the stolen ability on the same night. Similar roles that I have seen in the past (e.g. role absorbers) don't get to use any "learned" abilities the same night that they get them. With that said, if Magna is scum, he could have easily implicated Fur and/or Muffin by claiming that they were lying about their role. The fact that he didn't, along with my town read on him previously, makes me inclined to believe him, although again I will think about it more.
2. I don't think Muffin would have fakeclaimed cop out of the blue on D2 just to get Robo lynched. I believe he is town, although his investigation results remain in question. Should we have him investigate himself to check his sanity? If it turns out that he is insane, then we can conclude that bv is scum based on Magna's results.
3. I also found it strange that Shotty decided to go after Muffin on N2, but I wanted to hear what info Magna had on him first. I would like to hear him explain why he targeted Muffin.
4. If Robo was indeed town, then I will have to take another look at Fur. I thought he was being set up yesterday as an "easy" lynch by Robo/Ythan based on his playstyle, but if both of them are town, then Fur is very possibly scum.
I feel that if anything, his claim is fake, and he is mafia. I disagree with you. You are just trying to defend him.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #97) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:14 pm

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bv310 wrote:Seems pretty convincing to me.
Unvote, Vote: Shotty
what is convincing to you? i don't understand this vote. if you don't think he's a vig, what do you think he is? mafia? sk?
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #98) » Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:38 pm

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i'm going to have to agree with you there
i get policy lynched in a lot of the games i'm in, even once in mylo or w/e
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:34 am

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it's really frustrating and hard to confirm ANYTHING with this setup
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:28 pm

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my only concern is that you might be scum trying to steer a mislynch
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #101) » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:07 pm

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I am leaning towards muffin, to be honest.
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #102) » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:13 pm

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isnt that the night i was supposed to do shotty? isnt that the first of the two?
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #103) » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:28 pm

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@ kdub you sound squirmy to me
@ muffin what did you do the last 2 nights?
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #104) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:05 am

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Muffin wrote:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:I've got a rather large info dump to share but I want to see some information first -

1. Shotty - Please indicate your targets Night 3 and Night 4.
2. Furc - Please indicate your targets Night 3 and Night 4 (if both are valid). Please disclose the exact name of your ability (ie what you PM to RC) and any results.
3. Muffin - Please indicate your targets Night 3 and Night 4 and any results you got.
During night 2 I investigated Magna. Part of the flavor PM indicated that I was "wrong about Robocopter" which is distressing. Sorry robo! So my sanity is in question. Someone tried to kill me night 2 with a gun, but I survived because I "hid in my bulletproof closet" or something similar but for some reason that prevented my investigation from going through (perhaps I was also blocked? That doesn't make sense).

Night 3 I tried to investigate Magna again but this time I was definitely blocked because I was visited by a sexy teenage girl and apparently had a wet dream :lol:

So basically I am useless :?
When you say your sanity is in question, what do you mean? Did MoI come up as scum to your rolecheck?
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #105) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:08 am

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Muffin wrote:Furcolow answer the question please
Muffin wrote:
Furcolow wrote:
Kdub wrote:....
I feel that if anything, his claim is fake, and he is mafia. I disagree with you. You are just trying to defend him.
Whose claim is fake, and who are you saying is mafia?
obviously who i'm voting for
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #106) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:27 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Furc just f'in replace out if you are Town

Muffin's sanity was clearly discussed earlier. You aren't paying attention to the game. Give the slot to someone who will actually play effectively.
of course you want me to replace out, because i'm indicating that your ability claims show that you are fakeclaiming and are mafia. i'm staying, and my vote is staying.
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #107) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:52 pm

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i dont see how thief can be protown
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #108) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:54 pm

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millar wanted to lynch me, and he's confirmed evil. he tried to push a lynch on me. i am way more confirmed than some thief.
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #109) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:40 am

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why don't you guys replace out? i'm pretty happy being confirmed town
to me, the people who want me to replace out are likely scum, especially considering that thief claim.
iirc rikku doesn't have to be on your side, does she? i'm not really big into final fantasy games.
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #110) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:11 am

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i feel like my act of nabbing the only scum so far implies im town
if all 4 of us are town, that leaves bv, kdub and shotty. deductive reasoning.
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #111) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:06 am

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most of my games as scum have been offsite. the only one i remember on this site was mafia vs werewolves, and i replaced in.
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #112) » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:45 am

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Muffin wrote:I'm building a cottage on a lake 5 hours away where there's no internet.
That sounds lovely. What lake?
Iecerint wrote:@ Shotty's rep -- claim in your first post with all actions, your role, your class, etc.
Also claim who was chosen with those actions. I'm assuming netopalis night 1, but after that your slot has been AWOL.
Kdub wrote:I took a quick look at Fur's iso in that game bv posted. I think his playstyle looks similar to here, although I didn't see any serious instances of him making a push against near-confirmed players as he is doing here. I agree that some scum meta on him would be useful. Fur, can you provide links to some games where you were scum?

Replacing Shotty is going to suck because the replacement won't be able to tell us Shotty's motivations for his night actions.
The site I'm on requires specific forum access, so it's not something you can just do right away.
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Post Post #1203 (isolation #113) » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:02 pm

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just go ahead and claim, i swear we won't lynch you
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #114) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:17 am

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"-Fur, please confirm whether your ability is what MoI stated."
I wish I could, but I've had trouble with thieves and roleblockers on using it. Let me check my role PM in a new window. It states that I will observe a player and interrogate them, and that I can do it twice a game. I would have been able to do it twice, I mean, if it hadn't been stolen by the person I'm about to put my vote on.

vote: moi

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Post Post #1215 (isolation #115) » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:19 am

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I also recommend people unvote kast, as his play is 100x better than shotty's had been. He is doing EXACTLY what I would do if I replaced into a town slot in a game (see my recent games which I would reference in more detail but they're ongoing and that's not cool to do).
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #116) » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:31 pm

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I'm just glad to have someone else who is suspicious of MoI. He is acting like he did in HP Mafia.
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #117) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:43 am

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bv310 wrote:I was the target of MoI's second ability. He is who he says he is, and I doubt he is scum as such. I don't want to reveal too much more, but I will if everybody wants me to, or if he wants me to.
So, when we lynch him, and he's red, what will you have to say then?
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #118) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:32 pm

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:I'll have some time later to correct Kast's increadibly scummy comments.

But in the meantime look at the content (and I use the term loosely) of his posts.

He's spamming the thread with attacks, game and role speculation, and anything and everything but actual hunting.

The hallmark of desperate scum.

More votes for Obvscum Kast!
This, to me, reads like an appeal to emotion. MoI is begging people to find him cute and side with him with his word choice.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #119) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:35 pm

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bv310 you read like lurkerscum to me. I believe you might be MoI's scumbuddy.
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #120) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:12 pm

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@magna, I know what it is, your peacocking read the same way that someone begging and flailing did to me
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #121) » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:39 pm

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@Kdub: Neto may have been scum. STTB/Kast claims are hitting neto night 1, and attempting to hit muffin night 2, when muffin said he hid, right? I do not doubt his claims, and feel like his play in relation to STTB's has been a breath of fresh air. I've been suspicious of MoI all game, and even moreso with how he played in HP mafia, so having someone who I assume is town pushing for the lynch of a scum is always a good thing in my eyes.

@Iecerint: If you had to pick someone to die between MoI and Kast, who would you pick, and why?
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #122) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:02 am

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Kast wrote:@Fur-
Please provide the flavor information surrounding your getting role blocked on N1.
night 1 i had my ability stolen
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #123) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:06 am

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Iecerint wrote:I am leaning toward lynching Kast on the basis that his arguments make assumptions that make less sense to me. Kdub summaries my feelings on the issue very well. Also, MoI was my strongest town read prior to Kast calling it into doubt.

I will say that this game's MoI is different from the MoI who was in Disgaea 2. THAT MoI seemed scummy to me, but was town. This one SEEMS town, but ye know... :?
That's what I'm saying. In HP mafia he was VERY helpful and posted walls of text..... and was scum... hmm


@MoI: What do you mean "who did I hide behind?" I skipped town for the night so scum couldn't kill me.
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #124) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:00 pm

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well the hint was that MoI is a thief and that he deserves to be lynched
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #125) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:03 pm

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If you know what it is why do you insist on using it wrong? Purposely labelling something as a fallacy when it is not is scummy. Why don’t you get over your wounded pride regarding Harry Potter Mafia. You played like crap and were forced to Treestump because you were going to be lynched. Life goes on.
Played like crap? This just proves that you run your mouth so much you can't spend time to listen. I had dramonic pinned, I had KMD/Reaper as a scumpair in some of my posts. Go read me in iso idiot.
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #126) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:15 pm

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For even attacking a claimed vig without a counterclaim in this setup is scummy from my perspective anyways MoI and you'll be lynched.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #127) » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:34 pm

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It does not leave the possibility of Muffin as mafia and MoI as non-mafia.
So let's lynch MoI. If he is red, then we know to lynch muffin, if he isn't, we have a confirmed town by this logic. My only problem with this is I've seen some town players do some funky things that didn't make any sense.
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Post Post #1312 (isolation #128) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:30 am

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@MoI: I bet you would be very similar to your teammate millar13 in your flip
Full Name
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: formerly known as 'Sarah Louise Kerrigan'
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #129) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:30 am

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of course i'll take your bet
i have nothing to hide
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #130) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:51 am

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Don't spend too much time on it, because I am honestly town aligned
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Post Post #1371 (isolation #131) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:59 pm

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I figured you guys were scum together, bv, you were lurking while he tried to mislead the town.
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #132) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:18 pm

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it's all too WIFOM to even make a case on really
I'm keeping my vote on MoI
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #133) » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:11 pm

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Muffin there is no possible way you are scum with MoI, because Bv310 wouldn't have made that claim. I'm not 100% on MoI being scum, but he is my top suspect, which is why I'm keeping my vote on him. I wouldn't be surprised if Iecerint, Kdub, or Bv310 were scum.
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #134) » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:12 am

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Muffin wrote:
Iecerint wrote:Why are you voting Furc on that basis over Kast or me?

Also, what made you wonder whether we were my mylo?
Well firstly you aren't voting for MoI. Secondly I have my reasons :cool:
explain your reasons considering i'm the only reason we've caught any scum at all
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #135) » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:42 am

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bv310 wrote:My role's confirmed to him, in that he "scanned" me before.

Kdub, I was talking about both of his abilities. Ability Thief + Neighbourizer would be WAY too overpowered as a scum role. Also, Kerrigan was basically confirmed scum as soon as she flipped, given that Kerrigan turns evil very quickly. Rikku is a protagonist in two separate FF-X games, and never turns evil.
You're saying it would be overpowered doesn't mean that it is overpowered this game, or that you're not both scum.
I am starting to lean towards you not being scum, but I still believe MoI is clouding your brain. With this setup, with people having so many abilities (millar's zergrush was hilarious and some would argue imbalanced), you can't really say anything is overpowered unless it gets into bastard modding.
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #136) » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:26 am

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Well, regardless, Muffin, I'm fairly sure we're on the same side.
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #137) » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:38 am

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agreed
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #138) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:18 am

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Read the bet again Furc. I suggest nothing about YOUR alignment. The bet is solely predicated on your statement that I am Scum. Whether you are Town or not has no bearing on the outcome of the bet. When my alignment of Town is confirmed (either during or after the game) you will have lost.
That's not the bet I thought I was taking. I thought I was taking one that I lost if *I* was scum. I am not taking this bet, then, because I am honestly not sure what alignment you are.
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #139) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:23 am

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I've just caught up. I love to see MoIscum flailing in rising water.
Pretty sure we're going to win, and only have 1 scum remaining. Hell, MoI could be the last scum.
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #140) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:25 am

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-It would mean MoI still has a buddy (probably the other guy doing the role blocking).

Can't roleblocker be a town role?
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #141) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:28 am

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compromise lynch? you want to mislynch at this point in the game? are you an idiot?
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #142) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:10 am

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when he comes back, he's just going to lie
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #143) » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:47 am

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no, that will be bv or muffin when we lynch moi
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Post Post #1469 (isolation #144) » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:34 pm

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:Back from a fun weekend …

Welcome SSBF.
Furc wrote:That's not the bet I thought I was taking. I thought I was taking one that I lost if *I* was scum. I am not taking this bet, then, because I am honestly not sure what alignment you are.
So your statement that you ‘would bet I am scum’ was just rhetoric them. And your continued inability to read and comprehend is mind-boggling.
Furc wrote:I've just caught up. I love to see MoIscum flailing in rising water.
More rhetoric with no redeeming game value.

Interesting how you label my as scum here when you just posted that you were too chicken to make the bet based on my alignment.
Furc wrote:when he comes back, he's just going to lie
Lulz. Just lulz.
Kast wrote:--BV is going really far to defend MoI on very little evidence. QT titled with a character name is not automatically confirmation that the player inside is the named character (a scum neighborizer whose neighbor QT title revealed that he was Evil would be a pretty pointless power). We also do not know whether all scum have antagonist (Evil) characters; it is possible Rikku could be scum.
Another further example of how Kast theorizes consistently to make every possible outcome show me as ‘scum’. More supposition about what MOD would or would not do.

If Kast is considered ‘cleared’ by the matching flavor I’m going to have to let my vote for him go. I’m still greatly troubled by the inability for ANYONE to being able to say why (other than Kast’s further wild speculation that my ability is also protects along with the role-blocking / ability-copping / power stealing he has already claimed it does) Muffin didn’t die to Kast’s ‘kill’

I know Muffin and am 95% sure (barring sanity issues with Muffin) that bv310 are Town and will thus not lynch them. If Kast is ‘clear’ that leaves 2 Mafians (unless Robocopter really was Mafia, which Muffin’s flavor text is placing in doubt) in

Kdub, Furc, Iec.

UNVOTE: Kast
VOTE: Furc

You are the most viable lynch and having to chose between you and myself when I know I am Town makes my decision easy.
This entire fucking post is justification for a terrible OMGUS which is anti-town in that I am obviously town, and the scum honestly have to be among SSBF/bv310/MoI. bv310 reminds me of the way he played mafia in mendo the brief time I was in that game.

@bv310 what was your role that game?
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #145) » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:39 pm

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YOU ARE MAFIA WITH MOI
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #146) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:19 pm

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i investigated bv310 but the flavor told me he was out making a kill
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #147) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:21 pm

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i am pretty fucking sure that it is all town left with kast as an SK
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #148) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:46 pm

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I did not kill bv
if you think that you are an idiot
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Post Post #1517 (isolation #149) » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:04 am

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i was suspicious of shotty being an SK
i do not think bv310 did the kill, as having re-read the flavor it was me "speculating", so i think RC is putting a cog in my wheels with that. Him reading "bodyguard weekly" makes me believe he was protown and on our side.

This makes me lead to the conclusion MoI and Kdub were perhaps the scum, with Kast/shotty being SK
vote: kast
under that assumption. he voted me after i voiced my suspicions, so he is attacking me acting like i attacked bv310 when i will share ANY of the flavor i got out of the rolecheck at ANY time because I am town

I feel like the 2 kills came from Kast and bv310/kdub, with kast being an SK
that is my take on how this game has played out

either kdub was the last scum, or kdub/millar/Kast with possibly bv310 as an sk
or bv310 was the last scum with bv310/millar/moi as a scum team with kast as an sk

those are the ONLY way the kills make sense to me

@Mod: may i share the flavor I got from my check?
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #150) » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:19 am

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i can tell you from memory what has happened
and i am saying that I was heavily thinking bv310/moi were a scumteam
you are attacking me like that with no reasoning, because you are an sk, and you want a mislynch
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #151) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:16 am

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my god you idiots are really voting me?
there were TWO KILLS LAST NIGHT
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #152) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:20 am

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I can hide and check people
those are my abilities
I can only hide once, and I used it whenever Ythan died
I don't see why you guys are voting me at all since I hammered scum on day 1
I wouldn't do that if I was. I am a very loyal teammate.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #153) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:30 am

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I hid on one of those nights, man, it has been awhile ago
You are very good at arguing out of a sticky situation, Kast
I hope that a medic protects someone and you lose after you get me mislynched
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Post Post #1537 (isolation #154) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:35 am

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I was roleblocked night 1
I have only used it twice, if anything, what the hell is your beef?
if you are town you need to quit tunneling on me, because there has to be scum and an sk or vig out there
i would really like to know who flipped what.......
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #155) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:36 am

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why, so you can use it to get me mislynched?
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #156) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:49 am

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how about the fact that i really investigated you
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #157) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:57 am

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that you're about to win the game
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #158) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:57 am

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well played as an sk
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #159) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:12 pm

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? you are crazy
i am so surprised shottySK slot was capable of getting out of that and getting a win
you played very well kast
congratulations :(
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #160) » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:31 pm

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i checked bv310 and he mentioned something about a bodyguard, so that's what i think he was
that you are the SK comes from the other beloved princess night
i knew you had the power to kill, but now the pieces fit in together
also being bulletproof must really help you
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #161) » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:56 pm

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i am not scum, this feels exactly like stars aligned 2 for me
one of you on my wagon at least CANNOT be scum, and needs to unvote me
i hammered millar day 1, but apparently you replacements weren't here for that
whichever of you is town needs to unvote me
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #162) » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:44 pm

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gg im a terrible player
at least i got moi lynched

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