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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:31 pm

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Magna wrote:@Sprex – Given I know nothing about your plan but your voter list I’m certainly willing to listen. You think you can find a player that all 5 players would agree to lynch?
Damn well better.
Ice wrote:27. SX's start post is intriguing. I wonder why he for all intents and purposes left Furco and Millar off the lynch wagon, though.
? The posts don't know if/when that reduced lynch amount will change. IF for some reason, that happens well.

As for whom I'm really ticklin at: Shotty

I'll parse it out when I have some more time BUT the big issue is the sense of falsity in this whole 'kicked back' mentality the posts have - especially the early ones.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:41 am

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So what are we doing
right now
? We seem to just be sitting here and you won't tell us anything so what is step one of this plan?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:00 am

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Iec, please
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mention Nouns Mafia again, or I may have to shiv you in your sleep. That. Game. Did. Not. Happen.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:13 am

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Those FIVE people need to pick a target (I recommend Shotty) and make them be lynched.

That is steps 1-finish for now.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:15 am

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Alright, I going to go with Furcolow.

I want him dead.
My votes on him. So We just lynch him? Well, I'll gladly see his body hanging on a rope in this game.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:18 am

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You'll notice I'm not on the list. Realistically while I'm gonna be giving my input its a matter of consensus within those five.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:44 am

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an you explained how it will help the Town? I see the following scenario.

1. You scan Ythan with your non-alignment proven power.
2. If we have a Watcher or Tracker they confirm you did so.
3. You tell us what power Ythan has.
4. If Ythan dies we have to decide if you are the one that killed him.
5. If Ythan doesn’t die we see whether he states you are lying about your ‘scan’
6. ?????
7. Profit.

Seriously how does this help town? It will not tell us if you are Scum or Town since an Ability cop could easily be a power from either side. It potentially outs a Watcher or Tracker for no real benefit. It will not confirm anything but perhaps what Ythan’s power is. And knowing that will not for tell us anything concrete about his alignment.
Are you saying that in no way does this confirm that myself and the watcher are working towards helping the town? I am not good at theories, but I have seen this happen and the watcher ended up seeing mafia make a hit or something similar. I'm pretty sure BV was in that game, and I know I died in the night like I probably will this game, so perhaps he could rectify what happened. I do see that the alignment vs roles makes it a little bit more difficult in terms of confirmation, but we could use roles to out someone. If I check Ythan, and he has a zerg rush ability..... yea. Just sayin'.

24. Hey, random thought secondary to Robo's Furco push. I was reflecting on the plausibility of Tanya being a fakeclaim. But. Sarah Kerrigan is a witch from an RTS. Tanya appears to be a sort of Chaotic Neutral-tier witch from an RTS. So...that aspect does fit.
26. I don't understand Furco's explanation for removing bv and me from the "maybe Sarah Kerrigan" list. Also, please clarify the point of the list to me if I misunderstand it. Also, keep in mind that there was probably a lag between "sent in action" and "RC posted action."
Iecerint, didn't you just travel to Kentucky? Where did you go if so?
I did not fakeclaim, I have not ever fakeclaimed. I've explained not having you or BV on the list. I did not notice your names being active near the ability being used. I did not consider their being a delay, as RC is an active mod. Hope this clears that up :)
Robocopter87 wrote:Alright, I going to go with Furcolow.

I want him dead.
My votes on him. So We just lynch him? Well, I'll gladly see his body hanging on a rope in this game.

I agree with this line of thinking. I do this all the time. You can use this sort of gut feeling to point yourself in the right direction. Unfortunately, if you are a town player, and fingering another town player, and using this kind of 'logic', scum can agree with you, providing no reason like you, and the town has no way to provide defense to the argument. I know this from experience, as I have pushed wagons based upon my gut as town that have ended up lynching detectives. This is what you are doing. You doing this makes the town ripe for bandwagons. Give some evidence for who you want to kill. Without evidence, you make it too easy for scum to take advantage of your gut. I know you don't like me, and that's fine, but I am not an idiot.

Consider that my gut is screaming that you are mafia. Millar to some degree as well. Unfortunately, if you two are mafia, we're probably fucked. I therefore play as though you are town despite my instinct. Your gut is screaming I am mafia, but I am the detective, and you should consider playing as though I am town despite your instinct.

To go on about those who are 'confirmed' town, MoI also gets a pass in this respect since he has been providing very good posts and his behavior can be held accountable if he has a dropoff in quality. I feel that Iecerint is probably town with me as well. I am not sure about Spyrex, Ythan, Kdub, or Netopalis.

For now my vote will go onto STTB
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vote: shotty to the body


My reasoning is his inactivity and lurkiness in relation to the fact that he is being discussed as a lynch victim. If he was going to help us he would be providing more content.

If anyone has questions about my actions and cares to frame them in a manner better than their 'gut', I would be glad to respond.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:48 am

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I can support either Furc or Shotty. They both are low enough on my list that I'm willing to lynch them, plus I feel like either of them will give us good information.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:40 am

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Back from the cottage, and re reading the thread. Only thoughts so far are that I don't really like it when people try to steer the town without giving info as SpyreX is attempting to do. Also somewhat interested to note that some players are seemingly going along with it.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:42 am

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Well you got a better idea muffin?
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:56 am

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Muffin: Quite frankly, I'm fairly convinced that Shotty is scum, and since the wagon's on him....I really could care less who is on the wagon. If there's an advantage to others being on it, then by all means...
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:59 am

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Alright then,
UNVOTE: Furcolow For now
VOTE: STTB
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:07 am

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Unvote
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:26 am

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Robocopter87 wrote:Well you got a better idea muffin?
You're always so hostile towards me.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:34 am

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Netopalis wrote:Muffin: Quite frankly, I'm fairly convinced that Shotty is scum, and since the wagon's on him....I really could care less who is on the wagon. If there's an advantage to others being on it, then by all means...
I understand that, and I don't get a particularly pro-town vibe from shotty either but I haven't taken the opportunity to really scrutinize his posts yet. If people have legit reasons for voting Shotty that's fine by me. What concerns me though is stuff like this:
Robocopter87 wrote:Whoa...
No clue whats Spyre is getting at...

So with that being said, Lets do what he says!
^^The above is serious, might as well just do what he's asking.
Which appears to be something approaching "follow the veteran"
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:44 am

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There will be information. Like I said, a little trust is necessary. Got to keep the cards close, sometimes.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:09 am

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SpyreX wrote:There will be information. Like I said, a little trust is necessary. Got to keep the cards close, sometimes.
Can you tell us why you chose those particular players?
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:15 am

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Muffin wrote:
SpyreX wrote:There will be information. Like I said, a little trust is necessary. Got to keep the cards close, sometimes.
Can you tell us why you chose those particular players?
I have some ideas, but if I'm right, it's best not to ask him about it. I do think I know what's going on, though.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:26 am

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:? I feel so in-the-dark.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:31 am

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Always hostile? well you are the one- No lolz Its all in good fun.

Its not follow the veteran, Its try the idea of someone who actually has an idea.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:41 pm

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SX, when do you intend to reveal the information? D2, or later than that?

Are you choosing your wagon because they're perceived town, or for different reasons?

Use your discretion.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:50 pm

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Spryrex is a "veteran"? first time i've heard reference to it. I always can typically pick them out, or people who are helful, but I wouldn't have thought it of his as much as I would someone like Iecerint or Ythan
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:01 pm

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If all goes to plan D2 will be the fruition of my experiment. You know better than to ask the other part at this point. :P

As for the naysayers:

1.) Give an alternative.
2.) Explain the secret all powerful scum machinations.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:05 pm

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Yes, well, I told you to use your discretion, etc.

I could come up with scum machinations, but I'll let whoever do so, since, ye know, I'm fairly certain they don't apply.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:20 pm

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