Open 205 - Medical Mafia - Game Over Too Soon?

[Looker]

No need to start without me; the Doctor has arrived.

/confirm

@Mykonian: Good to see you in this game; here's to a town/doc victory.

@Kyle: Nice to see you again; here's to your inevitable success.

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Hope you guys are ready to win.

[Looker]

Especially you, XScorpion

[Looker]

Especially you, XScorpion

Why XScorpion in particular?

Why me? Because Lookerscum defeated my town last game

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vote kyle

- I don't like how you publicly express your ability to refrain from placing Mykonian at L-1
- We're going to need competing bandwagons if this lynch is going to be accurate and worthwhile
- You basically said nothing in your last post.
Pick someone to sacrifice.

[Looker]

@SaintKerrigan
You vote me because you find my vote suspicious?

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@Light & Danny
What are your opinions of Mykonian's plan and the subsequent jumping of individuals upon his case?

[Looker]

EBWOP
@SaintKerrigan
Or is it just as good a vote as any?

[Looker]

I don't see what's so suspicious. I stated reasoning as to why I voted him - was it the reasoning that aroused your suspicions?

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Is this your version of the RVS?

[Looker]

@ Looker: What are your thoughts on Mykonian?

Just because you state reasons for a vote does not mean the vote isn't suspicious. In other words, yes, your reasoning aroused suspicion. It just reads as fluff reasoning to me.

- My thoughts on Mykonian are that he needs to vote.

RE: Fluff Reasoning
- Okay. So far, that's the best I could come up with.

[Looker]

vote kyle

- I don't like how you publicly express your ability to refrain from placing Mykonian at L-1
- We're going to need competing bandwagons if this lynch is going to be accurate and worthwhile
- You basically said nothing in your last post.
Pick someone to sacrifice.

- I voted Kyle not due to his opinion of Mykonian's plan, but because he publicly expressed "I'm not putting him at L-1"
- The second bullet was simply utilization of the mechanics of the game. We'll need multiple wagons to make today's lynch more "democratic"
- A valid point.

- My thoughts on Mykonian are that he needs to vote.

What about opinions on his plan? Part of the reason you're voting Kyle is his reaction to Mykonian. Given that, I'd expect you to have more opinion than just "he needs to vote."

To be honest, I'm not going to vote Mykonian based on the ramifications of his plan, probably because I wasn't going to follow it anyway. I'm not going to vote him based on his competence or lack thereof as a player; that doesn't bother me because I'm going to do what I do/want regardless and I'd encourage all of you to do the same, at least until we can all agree upon someone we believe to be guaranteed Town.

[Looker]

1. Because that's all he did. He popped in, said "I'm not putting him at L-1", and then popped out. It just sorta stuck out to me. Do you disagree?

2. Not necessarily using it as a reason to vote him, just a point in explaining why I wasn't hesitant to vote him.

3. I was stating that he really didn't say anything in that post he posted, which would make my third point a valid one. Sorry for the confusion.

4. I just felt that that was where this discussion was going and I wanted to put that out in the open beforehand. They discuss plans and statistics and probabilities and it seems more players express a sense of gravity when it comes to these topics, but, to be honest, I don't too much care for them. They have their place, but they're not nearly as serious and as (I guess I would say "strict") as some make them out to be. I still don't like the thought of a "Town Leader", though, unless, of course, that Leader is me. Otherwise it's not worth the risk.

[Looker]

unvote

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4. Interesting assumption, but ok. Although I would like a simple yes or no answer in response to "Do you think Mykonian's plan is a nulltell".

- Whether the plan sucks or not is a nulltell
- The fact that he made one, not so much; however, at this stage of the game with no supporting suspicions, it's more a nulltell than anything else.
- Have you noticed Danny's absence?

P.S. Only obv. scum speak in third person.

Well, we already know that one of you is scum, we just have to figure out which. We're currently in the process of doing so.

I suggest doing a town-event vote for the one who makes the circle

,

if

(and only IF) everyone (or at least a vast majority) agrees on going through with it.
We will elect a player to make the circle by majority voting, we can easily set a deadline of, say, a week (only an example).
If we go through with this I can do the votecounts if necessary.
I'm suggesting this plan because it's the closest we can get to a fair choice on the 'circle-maker'. This is pretty much the same as a lynch but in this case we actually have more chance to hit a towny instead of a mafia. Profitable? In my eyes it is.

@Kyle, Light, & Danny: Who do you guys think should make the circle?

Wow looker, your reasoning is awful. You voted me because I didn't put someone at L1 before the mod even announces day one has started, and your vote seems to be just to start up a competing wagon to the Mykonian wagon. Scum-buddying, perhaps?

Buddying? You sure I'm not holding a grudge against you...? You never know, I could be a xRECKONERx alt...

we definitely need a testing strat to test our doctor skills. I'd do the circle strat only if everyone else agrees to it, otherwise we could do a 'better variation of the idea'.

What would be your better variation (of the idea)?

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How so? Although I'm very sure Mykonian is scum, putting someone at L-1 after almost no discussion is madness. For this reason he FoS'd. Why do you not like this?

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This implies that we're voting for Mykonian because he's stupid. No, we're voting for him because he's scummy. Quite the Strawman argument you make here.

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Why? Do you think you would make a great leader for this game?

- I didn't dislike it. I felt he made the least commitment.
- We weren't discussing stupidity. We were discussing the ramifications of Myk's plan as a nulltell and whether or not

I

would vote him.
- I'm as good a choice as any.

For the record, I'm in favor of every man acting for himself. That said, I don't think Mykonian is scummy for suggesting the plans, even if they are flawed.

With this, I agree.

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vote Danny

Light & Kyle have offered input already.

[Looker]

Differences of playstyle and intentions for the game. You're making a mess out of this entire thing; it's only a misunderstanding. If you're not positively sure xScorpion is scum, I'd encourage you not to waste your time.

What is your opinion of Danny's absence?

[Looker]

And the above: that is not playstyle, that is intelligence, mostly. You have made that choice conciously, which is ok, but they clearly didn't.

I don't want you to die, Mykonian.

30%

60% XScorpion

30% Mykonian

20% Danny
10% Light
10% Kyle

Mindgamer's Post 69

- It seems you're basing your case off the fact that Myk's plan sucks, which isn't good. The best alternative would be to suggest a different, better plan, which is what I'm still waiting for from Light.

[Looker]

Alright guys, I still think mykonian is possibly scum. Trying to focus on only the night-action instead of scumhunting is scummeh.

What about not focusing on anything at all?

vote Danny

and I encourage you to do the same.

Practically nobody (apart from looker and StK) are seriously scumhunting.

Bet you never thought you'd ever say that, right?

Vote Danny

Mindgamer's Post 78 -

Okay, very good, you have an alternate plan, so why are you still voting Mykonian? He had a plan, it sucked, you proposed a new one, and now we can move on.

Vote Danny

I think we've lost Danny...

>>>

Vote Danny

<<<

but seriously, scumhunting = voting someone who claimed 2x scum? Don't know what to think about that.

It concerns me more that Mindgamer would actually

claim

scum twice. If he's not scum, then he's a disgruntled towny that more than likely doesn't care to help seeing as he's...disgruntled. Either way, I believe our play on words and bickering is distracting from the overall point - lynching scum.

Vote Danny

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People who I'd actually like to see

Vote Danny

:

- Kyle
- Mykonian
~Mindgamer (I don't know about this one; L-1's kinda iffy right now)

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VOTE DANNY!

[Looker]

Danny! Danny! Danny!

Why suddenly the noise about Danny, Looker? He isn't here, he's probably going to be replaced, so why are you talking about him? Are you trying to take our attention away from something? Oh yes, you are:

Mindgamer's Post 78 -

Okay, very good, you have an alternate plan, so why are you still voting Mykonian? He had a plan, it sucked, you proposed a new one, and now we can move on.

Vote Danny

In my opinion, Mykonian is scum because of his plan and everyone knows I think this. Why are you so desperate to take my attention away from this? Scumbuddies with Mykonian perhaps?

Either way, I believe our play on words and bickering is distracting from the overall point - lynching scum.

Vote Danny

You want to lynch scum! What a wonderful initiative! So you want to bandwagon someone who isn't even here! What?
What do you expect to gain from such a bandwagon? Pressure won't make Danny magically return. I think it's just your way of wasting our time. I'm calling a scumteam of Mykonian/Looker.

Oh, and SaintKerrigan is right. I didn't notice because I was tunneling on Mykonian, but Light has posted... nothing. Completely nothing.

Unvote. Vote: Light

I want some content. Now.

- We've yet to receive any indication of Danny being replaced. As far as can be deduced, he is lurking.

- Disagreements are not scum-tells. It would be more profitable to accuse me on other grounds.

- @Saint Kerrigan: I thought you were skeptical of voting people due to lack of content. Wasn't this why you were so critical of my vote on Kyle? What's the difference between my vote on Kyle and Mindgamer's vote on Light?

I also believe your vote is baseless, Mindgamer, and as ineffective as you claim my vote on Danny to be. We're both voting for the same thing - more content, so I'd encourage you to belay your suspicions of me until you find a more adequate reason to vote.

wtf at voting for a guy who hasn't posted anything yet. Why are you so gung-ho to lynch him?

unvote
Vote: Looker

People who I'd actually like to see

Vote Danny

:

- Kyle
- Mykonian

~Mindgamer (I don't know about this one; L-1's kinda iffy right now)

Try again, XScorpion.

[Looker]

O, and Happy Scumday to me, I guess.

[Looker]

Happy Scumday, Looker!

I was critical on your vote on Kyle because you said he had lack of content at a time when there wasn't much content to be had. I said if there was lack of content later on in the game, then that was a valid point.

Meanwhile, I don't like your harassing of a guy who isn't here right now, isn't responding to your vote, and in all likelihood is going to be replaced. I think the time for a vote to provoke a response has passed.

Light, why are you voting for a No-Lynch? Usually, that's not a productive way to use your vote unless town comes to a consensus to vote No-Lynch. Otherwise, your vote is much more productive when it's on someone.

DiscoRoboto, do you suspect anyone other than Mykonian, and why?

Mindgamer, why did you call a Mykonian/Looker scumteam, and then vote for Light?

- I don't see it as harassing, StK, and I disagree with your stance. I don't believe the time will have passed for my vote to do any good until we receive indication of Danny being replaced [or he posts more content]. Until then, my vote will remain on him.

MOD: WHAT'S THE SITUATION WITH DANNY?

RE: Light's No-Lynch Vote
- I agree, Light's vote for a No-Lynch is not in the best interest of the town and I would advise him to unvote if he has no one he suspects. Votes=/= scumhunting.

RE: Mindgamer's Vote On Light
- As I've already stated, I don't like the fact that he accuses me of being scum and then goes on to perpetrate the same act for which he called me scum in the first place. It's hypocritical.

[Looker]

wtf at voting for a guy who hasn't posted anything yet. Why are you so gung-ho to lynch him?

unvote
Vote: Looker

Well, we already know that one of you is scum, we just have to figure out which. We're currently in the process of doing so.

I wish this were true, oh I really do. Unfortunately you are completely wrong, and it is easily possible that both of me and Mykonian are just misguided townies. If we actually knew for a fact that either I'm scum or Mykonian is, there really shouldn't be any hesitation to just kill one of us then lynch the other the next day.

As misguided as you are, I agree with you.

Unvote; Vote: Mykonian

@ Mykonian: Why would I want to disclose that kind of information? Even if I did, would you believe me? If you really want to know, go meta me on my scum games and decide for yourself what my scumtells are.

Town doesn't mind giving this information. Please answer the question, StK.

But I'm not always going to be town. It's not in my best interests as a player to disclose my weaknesses. As I stated before, you are free to look up my meta, check my scum games, and see how I play then to determine my scumtells. I will not, however, tell you outright.

It is frowned upon to play suboptimally as town to make you play better as scum. Please don't do that, and answer the question. Why would you as a good towny not tell us?

Or are you scum that is afraid to give this information?

Where were you going with this?

[Looker]

Also, to rival

Kyle's List

...

SCUM

Mykonian
SaintKerrigan/Mindgamer
Light/Kyle/DiscoRoboto/Danny
XScorpion
Looker

TOWN

[Looker]

danny135 has been prodded.

Also, to rival

Kyle's List

...

SCUM

Mykonian
SaintKerrigan/Mindgamer
Light/Kyle/DiscoRoboto/Danny
XScorpion
Looker

TOWN

Damn, your list has color. Mine looks like a joke now

After mulling it over for a while, I still think Mykonian is the person to lynch now.

vote: Mykonian

I really think that we're going to win this game by scumhunting. Relying on night-actions could really blow up in our face.

unvote
vote Kyle

Well XScorp, see it as a compliment

Could you add anything to the conversation?

Yes, I could add that I'm actually not as intelligent as I pretend to be and some people are right to call me out on it.

I'd normally join the Mykonian train but I'm still really suspicious about Looker's actions towards Danny.

They worked.

Town has got two tools: Voice and Vote. And. Not slash. Town is able to use them both in a different way. You don't have to use your vote to add strength to your suspicions. That's why I used my voice on Looker and my Vote on Light.

Light has posted now, but I stil don't see any original content. Almost everything he said has already been said by others. But since my vote will not change that much, I wil unvote. I will remember Light's refusal to post original content though.

Unvote

Back to Looker, yay!

- Disagreements are not scum-tells. It would be more profitable to accuse me on other grounds.

I called you scum because you are trying to take my attention away from Mykonian, not because of the disagreement on the plan. Straw Man again.

I fail to understand how I can take your attention away from anything. I do, however, understand, and can somewhat appreciate, your affinity for the term "Straw Man". Everything is not as vindictive as you make it out to be, whether purposely or otherwise.

I also believe your vote is baseless, Mindgamer, and as ineffective as you claim my vote on Danny to be. We're both voting for the same thing - more content

We're not, I'm voting for more content. You're voting for nothing.

Yet another disagreement.

so I'd encourage you to belay your suspicions of me until you find a more adequate reason to vote.

Voice =/= Vote

With this I agree.

RE: Mindgamer's Vote On Light
- As I've already stated, I don't like the fact that he accuses me of being scum and then goes on to perpetrate the same act for which he called me scum in the first place. It's hypocritical.

I accused you of being scum for taking my attention away from Mykonian and pushing a L-1 wagon on someone who isn't here.. I did the same act however, you say. So I took my own attention away from Mykonian and I'm pushing a L-1 wagon on Light, whom is not here. YES.

Once again, I find it impossible to take your attention from anything, especially since you can read and, also once again, I was in no way pushing an L-1 wagon on Danny. I expressed this (and re-expressed this) already. Though somewhat, humoring, I find your sarcasm unhelpful. (LOL! LOL! LOLLL!)

As misguided as you are, I agree with you. Unvote; Vote: Mykonian

So first you try to get me off the Mykonian wagon by telling me to move on, and now you're joining his bandwagon?


Straw Mans.
Vote=Voice.
Very strange voting behaviour.

Vote: Looker

You're eerily obsessed with Mykonian.

Oh btw, I'm confused. Why do we know that either XScorpion or Mykonian is scum?

I was under the assumption that since you and Scorpion continually attack Mykonian that at least one of you was confident enough in the other's scumminess. Either way, I've already addressed this but will do so again if you remind me. I have to find the post.

@ Looker: Harass was probably the wrong term. I was in a writing mood at the time (I was writing flavor for my upcoming Open game), and I can get a little creative with my wording when that happens.

That said, your insistence that one of Mykonian and XScorpion has to be scum is, well, scummy. There is no proof that either one of them is actually scum, and I can't help but wonder whether you created that in order to try and get the wrong one lynched. I know I've used this tactic as scum before. (Free scumtell for you, Mykonian. Today's your lucky day.)

Unvote: Light. Vote: Looker.

L-2, I believe.

@ Mindgamer: I personally think your voice should back up your vote, but I think this is more of a disagreement of opinion versus a scumtell.

My bad for believing they knew what they were doing.

There is only one type of player that doesn't want to tell how we can catch him if he is scum.

A sane player.

This with the defensiveness of StK of me, right in the beginning (

for looker this is rather normal, seen his meta

), but for StK, he has to know something, I think.

So you refuse to do a meta-read on SaintKerrigan, but in the mean time you have done a meta-read on Looker?
Oh, and I see completely no reason for you to suddenly defend Looker.

Looker is defending Mykonian. Mykonian is defending Looker. Cool.

Are you capitalizing on the fact that I like playing with Mykonian? Because I see you're capitalizing on the fact that you came off the more townish due to your discussion of his plan.

MOD: DID SCUM GET TO USE THE SCUMTOPIC PRE-GAME?

[Looker]

Worked how? Danny was prodded, but still isn't here. I fail to see how trying to get a Danny bandwagon started is pro-town in any way.

Well I fail to see how You/Mindgamer=obvtown and why I should consider any of your input when none of it has been helpful. Why

don't

you have a wagon on you yet?

MOD: DID SCUM GET TO USE THE SCUMTOPIC PRE-GAME?

There is no scum QT. They were allowed to PM each other before Day 1 started, however.

Mykonian: "I'm going to propose a plan and you refute it, k?"
Mindgamer: "Kewl."

mod: any word on replacement of danny?

He has about 20 hours from the time stamp on this post to pick up his prod and post.

myko's shift towards StK was a risky one at that. why are you now aiming StK? I guess avoiding answering a question would be abit "scummy" but it is well off confirming that they are really the scum.

So you refuse to do a meta-read on SaintKerrigan, but in the mean time you have done a meta-read on Looker?

nice catch. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from searching for how StK plays. Asking for someone's weakness = complete stupidity. Its like saying "Lex: Oh hello there superman, what is your weakness?" "superman: kryptonite, it hurts me when i touch it or near it". No person who is not mentally f*cked in the head would tell you his/her weakness, unless of course you were good friends.

!vote myko

Silly piggy, search is disabled [for performance reasons].

unvote
vote Light

Oh, and Looker is concious about what he is doing as scum. You won't catch him this way. [/color]

[Looker]

Are we replacing DiscoRoboto?

Wow, just wow.

Mykonian, what did you sow to reap such knowledge from your fields of neverending wisdom and waterproof arguments?

[Looker]

Wait a minute. Who all thinks that Mindgamer is town?

Vote Count #6

XScorpion (2) - kyle99, SaintKerrigan
Looker (2) - XScorpion, Mindgamer
mykonian (1) - Light
SaintKerrigan (1) - mykonian
Light (1) - Looker

Not Voting (2) - danny135, DiscoRoboto

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[Looker]

@StK: Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one sniffing him/he wasn't getting a free pass like Danny/Disco.

@Disco: How clever do you think I am? Schizophrenic paranoia can really hurt your game.

[Looker]

Danny/Disco scumpair?

[Looker]

He's the only one that avoided remarking on my push for a Danny wagon and he hasn't done much the whole game other than sit back and watch us vote each other. ScumDisco has a pretty comfortable position right now. Nobody's noticing him.

[Looker]

That and his partner's being replaced so I can't vote him

[Looker]

Because he accepted Mykonian's plans without considering its ramifications and later voted Mykonian due to some "you could've got meta on StK" silliness, which is untrue. As I've already stated, search is broken so there's really no way to get sufficient meta on anyone.

@Disco: Mykonian and I working as a team? I guess dreams really

do

come true. (At least we're not TvT

destroying

each other like last time)

[Looker]

Well "nigga please" certainly scares me; I'm partially offended and partially terrified.

@Mindgamer: Why can't you see that your vote belongs on Kyle?!

[Looker]

There's no way I'm reading all that. It looks...angry.

@XScorpion: What is your take on Disco "Nigga Please" Roboto?

[Looker]

@XScorpion: I know you disagreed with my Danny-wagon, but my Light-wagon is a good one. I think you should join. Yeah, I think you should.

[Looker]

No! It's

DULY

noted!

[Looker]

Nigga please

lmfao

[Looker]

Apparently not now. (Hi-five's Mykonian under the table)

[Looker]

But who's your partner, though?! Is it...XScorpion...? (tee hee)

[Looker]

Welcome, Bio Hazard. I hope you have fun.

[Looker]

While I applaud your initiative, I was only looking for a prod. Your arrival was (and remains) an unexpected surprise (as if there were any other kind).

[Looker]

Do like I do. Don't read them.

[Looker]

unvote light
vote mykonian

[Looker]

I love him.

[Looker]

Because Light's here and you have him taken care of. Now I want to hear from Mykonian.

[Looker]

Why are we calling me crappy when I never voted Disco? Is this leading up to something?

[Looker]

I think it more opportune to stick with a started wagon than abandon it to begin another when you're trying to lynch people.

Good luck on your midterms; you should probably study.

Vote Count #9

DiscoRoboto (2) - Mindgamer, mykonian
XScorpion (2) - kyle99, Bio Hazard
Looker (1) - XScorpion
mykonian (1) - Looker
Light (1) - SaintKerrigan

Not Voting (2) - DiscoRoboto, Light

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[Looker]

unvote
vote Mindgamer!

[Looker]

@BioHazard: Why do you think Kyle keeps disappearing?

[Looker]

I keep forgetting everybody's in school. You, XScorpion, Mindgamer, all seeking to better yourself professionally. Good on ya

[Looker]

Hmmm....I wonder what was so scummy about me...

[Looker]

An XScorpion lynch would be beautiful if he would get back here and defend himself.

[Looker]

So I'm guessing that if this goes down to deadline, we'll end up with a No Lynch, right?

[Looker]

Close enough for you to vote actual scum, I hope

[Looker]

Like Mindgamer knows, I like to have lurkers lynched pretty soon. Having a lurker go through until endgame is practically suicide, even if he is a townie.

My motivations on lynching lurkers is that when a lurker comes into lategame/endgame he has NO knowledge on the game (at least if I replace or join the game later on I don't have the vibes I normally have) which makes it doubtful if he will be helpful. Besides that, nobody got a read on him. Lurking isn't a scumtell per se, so lynching him would be a guess. I hate guessing in my lynches.

So if Town is willing to agree with me, let's lynch kyle.

In the past I have shared your argument that lynching lurkers is a good idea early on (for the exact same reasons you've listed above), but it doesn't make sense to vote a lurker when there are so many very scummy targets.

You're not making any sense at all and it seems like you're stalling until deadline.

[Looker]

Okay, what are you trying to do? Are you trying to lynch yourself or is that some kind of "I'mTown"Bluff/Gambit? And why did you put me in there? To be honest, I really don't know why you're voting me at all. (<-Hoping that doesn't come off jerkish, I'm just interested)

[Looker]

I didn't claim you were scum? I said your lynch would be beautiful, but I don't remember claiming you were scum.

I'm about to go to work. Scrounge up anything you can find and, once I get back, I'll go through all of it. Remember, though: Just because I was scum last game doesn't mean I'm scum again this game.

[Looker]

PT Break.

Your lynch would've been beautiful because you were attacking me for no reason and I was, and remain, curious as to why. I say "would've" because I assume you're going to bring up a case against me. If not, then your lynch would still be beautiful. Unless, of course, you're voting me because I was scum the last time I played with you, which is not a good reason in and of itself to vote me.

[Looker]

I doubt I'd be cleared.

ScumScorpLynch = 1 less scum
TownScorpLynch = 1 less tunnel-visioned (read:useless) townie

I'm trying to avoid the second option, which is why I keep asking for you to provide an actual case.

[Looker]

Oooo. Okay.

- I didn't try to lynch Danny. I pressed for a Danny wagon and even went on to say that L-1 would be too much. I only called for two people to vote Danny.

People who I'd actually like to see

Vote Danny

:

- Kyle
- Mykonian
~Mindgamer (I don't know about this one; L-1's kinda iffy right now)

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VOTE DANNY!

- Despite your eagerness to exaggerate, I didn't claim it was fact that either you or Mykonian were scum.

P.S. Only obv. scum speak in third person.

Well, we already know that one of you is scum, we just have to figure out which. We're currently in the process of doing so.

The both of you were voting each other when I made the above statement, which caused you to retract everything and say that "No, me and Mykonian could just be confused townies!" Yeah right.

- Why should I be voting for either of you right now? Mykonian, maybe, but why you?

- Also, I've refuted these points already.
- Also, you're being paranoid again.

wtf at voting for a guy who hasn't posted anything yet. Why are you so gung-ho to lynch him?

unvote
Vote: Looker

People who I'd actually like to see

Vote Danny

:

- Kyle
- Mykonian

~Mindgamer (I don't know about this one; L-1's kinda iffy right now)

Try again, XScorpion.

Oh btw, I'm confused. Why do we know that either XScorpion or Mykonian is scum?

I was under the assumption that since you and Scorpion continually attack Mykonian that at least one of you was confident enough in the other's scumminess. Either way, I've already addressed this but will do so again if you remind me. I have to find the post.

@ Looker: Harass was probably the wrong term. I was in a writing mood at the time (I was writing flavor for my upcoming Open game), and I can get a little creative with my wording when that happens.

That said, your insistence that one of Mykonian and XScorpion has to be scum is, well, scummy. There is no proof that either one of them is actually scum, and I can't help but wonder whether you created that in order to try and get the wrong one lynched. I know I've used this tactic as scum before. (Free scumtell for you, Mykonian. Today's your lucky day.)

Unvote: Light. Vote: Looker.

L-2, I believe.

@ Mindgamer: I personally think your voice should back up your vote, but I think this is more of a disagreement of opinion versus a scumtell.

My bad for believing they knew what they were doing.

Vote Count #13

Light (2) - DiscoRoboto, kyle99
DiscoRoboto (2) - Mindgamer, mykonian
XScorpion (1) - Bio Hazard
Looker (1) - XScorpion
Mindgamer (1) - Looker
kyle99 (1) - SaintKerrigan

Not Voting (1) - Light

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[Looker]

Well, we already know that one of you is scum, we just have to figure out which. We're currently in the process of doing so.

I wish this were true, oh I really do. Unfortunately you are completely wrong, and it is easily possible that both of me and Mykonian are just misguided townies. If we actually knew for a fact that either I'm scum or Mykonian is, there really shouldn't be any hesitation to just kill one of us then lynch the other the next day.

Translation: "No, please, don't pay attention to us. Let us bicker in the corner somewhere out of sight and out of mind. Who knows, maybe we're just

'misguided'

townies." Classic.

[Looker]

MOD: Bio Hazard is one person

Fixed.

[Looker]

@Light: I think you should vote, man.

[Looker]

I'm bored. Whatta you guys wanna talk about?

- Light should vote Mindgamer for starting all the WIFOM in the first place
- Kyle vanishes, pops in to place a vote on the popular wagon, and then vanishes again
- Disco: Who Is He? Scumpartner to Kyle or disgruntled custodian?
- Myko: Why Can't He Successfully

Do

Anything?
- The Commoners: StKerrigan, BioHazard, XScorpion, Looker, & Mindgamer; Why Doesn't Anyone Find

Them

Suspicious?

More @ 11...

[Looker]

@Scorpion:
No, but I'll talk foolishness and have you think it an answer
A)

EGGS!

B) See what they'd do; testing both spectrums - 1 I thought was town, the other I thought was scum

"We[/I/They] already know" is a Southern colloquialism used more in accusation than confirmation. E.g. "I already know you're f*cking her!"

(Why shouldn't I be voting for you?)? I don't know, I was kinda hoping you'd kill yourself. Anyway, I

am

voting one of the acclaimed "Commoners". And learn how to use the word "claim". Or at least be more subtle with your lies. I didn't say the Commoners weren't suspicious. I just questioned why no one had expressed suspicions

of

them. SO HA!

EGGS!

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And @Light: Tell her I said hello

[Looker]

O, n WELCUM PHAAYEENE!

[Looker]

If only Logic was as clear-cut as we try to make it out to be...

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I'm not voting Disco right now because there's more people to look at than just him. I've also had a town read on him for most of this game (that's slowly starting to come apart) and generally I don't vote my town reads. You'll notice that I haven't voted for you or Mykonian, either. Does that mean I'm scum with you or Myko? No.

You have FoS'ed him twice. Non of these reasons disappeared. And out of nothing you vote Bio. For tbh, no real reason. Sooooo why aren't you voting for a well reasoned case that you obviously can see, seen the FoS's?

Because there is more than one scum. There's no need for me to be locked onto one suspect when I can sniff around for others. Disco's not going to escape anyone's attention. So, I thought I'd do a little scumhunting.

sniff sniff

unvote
vote StKerrigan

sniff sniff

Why are you so gung-ho on having me vote Disco right this instant, Myko? There's time before the day ends.

[impressive movie voice]

STALL 101!

[/voice]

Wait, why were you wasting time trying to analyze Mykonian's plan? That everyone else had already agreed not to use?

Let him does what he does.

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@Light: You're gonna die, man. You're gonna die.

MOD: Does Kyle's vote for Light roll over to Phaen?

[Looker]

Kyle is town - ULTRAtown.

[Looker]

Somebody's got to be scum. Is it you?

[Looker]

Hey, Looker, did you see this?

Care to flesh out that vote with more than a quote? As far as I can tell, you're doing the exact same thing I'm doing.

Yeah, you about summed it up.

[Looker]

In the spirit of avoiding a catastrophic No Lynch...

@XScorpion: DiscoRoboto or Light Yagami?

[Looker]

At present time, Light because I don't like how he votes, and right now he isn't voting anyone which contributes to no lynch.

Light Yagami over me...?

[Looker]

ok, guys, where is the information you promised me in stead of lynching Disco, like we should? We are just waiting for the deadline and are letting scum kill the game. Great, isn't it?

There

is

no information to be discussed. What could have been said has already been said and could be said on into twilight. As I've already stated, it was a stall maneuver.

Option 1: StK-Scum/Disco-Scum
StKerrigan is trying to protect Disco and build up a different wagon.

Option 2: StK-Scum/Disco-Town
StKerrigan is utilizing the concept of WIFOM to speed up a Disco lynch, seeing as we weren't "well on our way" to begin with.

Option 3: StK-Town/Disco-Scum
StK has been had by no error of ours and I cannot be held accountable for thinking his stalling is scummy.

Option 4: StK-Town/Disco-Town
We weren't going to lynch scum anyway so what's the difference between a Disco-lynch and a StK-lynch.

At present time, Light because I don't like how he votes, and right now he isn't voting anyone which contributes to no lynch.

Light Yagami over me...?

Only to avoid no lynch because no lynch is disastrous for town. If I can get you lynched I will because I think you are scum but if deadline was right now I would switch my vote.

Yeah, deefinitely using my Quack powers on you tonight, dead weight. Have you considered any of the posts where I addressed your allegations? (And no, the proper response is not: "Yeah, I consider them garbage.")

[Looker]

They were links explicating my pressure vote on Danny, but you're right. You have every right to vote me and should probably just stay in the background with your vote until whatever is to come actually comes. Sorry for trying to make you post when there's no reason for you to. Enjoy school and study hard, it'll pay off one day, as opposed to playing Mafiascum, which we already know is basically useless and a waste of time.

[Looker]

YAY!

unvote
vote Disco

[Looker]

ROLE REVEAL

mykonian - Quack Doctor
SaintKerrigan - Normal Doctor

Looker - Weak Doctor

Mindgamer - Nurse
XScorpion - CPR Doctor
Phaen - Paranoid Doctor
Light - Mafia Goon
Bio Hazard - Naïve Doctor
DiscoRoboto - Mafia Goon

WHAAAA...!?!? I'm very disappointed in you, Alduskkel, you know you could've given me that Quack role on the down low! Nice game, tho

SCORE!!!!!
I eventually decided Looker wasn't scum and went with the next guy, who was the right choice

We could've been best friends, man. You should've joined Myk and me when you had the chance, we could've ruled the world. Nice shot.

hehehe. I was on one succesful lynch, and had a 50% accuracy in my scumreads in this game.

I should stop now, it'll never get better!


@Disco. Sorry. Till the moment where looker highfived me I was just posting as much stuff against you as possible. At that point I started to believe in it. Mindgamer really caught you though, that was not that well played.

There you have it, plain as day! My high five won the game for this town! Thank you! Thank you all very much!

[Looker]

Sorry Looker, I respect strength, not WEAK doctors XD

[Looker]

I guess not.

[Looker]

Who are you, invisible crusader?

It's me.

[Looker]

So I'm guessing u get to rape me now.